2008 yzf450 stolen today (12/07/11)

[barty5]

Would appear it was a scam to steal it as the money he put in account turns out is a chq and his ride round the shop turned into a ride up the road and didnt come back for the spare parts his mates took off as well.
took off while i was checking the account.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bad buzz. Got a vin number for us mate?

[Sammikins]

Whoever did it deserves to bleed.... so pissed to hear this. :ar15:

[Bradz]

I'm guessing that if he deposited a cheque, the bank would have him on cctv. Pity your not a millionaire and it wasn't an Aston Martin stolen, you may have had the aid of the NZ Police, helicopter and all..

[Maha]

..such a coincidence...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139869-Police-recovered-YZ450

[B0000M]

..such a coincidence...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139869-Police-recovered-YZ450

if only they could recover bikes a few days before they get stolen...

nah its a different bike Maha, but i guess cheers for keeping your eyes open to begin with!

[barty5]

ok so deal is its a scam they have they bank a stolen chq in your account come and look at bike when your not paying attention they quickly take off and just ride it the whole way home in my case a good long ride from newmarket all the way down the nor-western. Hassle is the money shows in your account as being there its not till you try to shift it around you notice its not available and you'll click its a chq. the girl goes in and banks it for them.

[barty5]

which jack arse moved this who the hell is going to read it here

[barty5]

last seen by me in newmarket last sighting was it going full tit down the norwestern motorway at waterview heading west

rather nocticable bike or at least was has Jack Daniels graphics kit on it all plastics are black bar front number plate is white
has perelli tyres and tag bars is other wise stock standard other than gold coloured rear sprocket.

[Hopeful Bastard]

Jesus mate. What a bastard thing to happen eh?? Hope it turns up very soon in a good nick.

[Hitcher]

which jack arse moved this who the hell is going to read it here

I did. I didn't understand what it was about and who was going to read it where it was.

[barty5]

I did. I didn't understand what it was about and who was going to read it where it was.

thats been one of those days i made another thread

[Brett]

I was contacted via my trademe add for the gsxr by a guy claiming to be from Hellensville.
He txt me saying he would give me my asking price, wanted to pick up my bike that day and would make a bank deposit straight into my account before meeting me to pick it up. He asked if I could meet him at Westgate.
Sounded a bit odd, guy keen to buy it without seeing, and when I told him that i wasn't willing to give out my bank details to someone I had never spoken to, but that we could meet, go to the local ASB where he could give me the cash, and once change of rego was done, he could take the bike.
After numerous txts back and forwards, I gave him a call. He was insistent that he make the deposit first as he was worried about me taking the cash and then doing a runner (did he think this part through first...I mean, I would have the cash deposited AND still have the bike under his scheme) and that he was having to borrow it from his parents. I told him that he could either get me a bank cheque or bring me cash, that was it...haven't heard from him again.

I am sure he was trying to scam me. Almost went along with it to see what they were up to, but then thought better of getting involved in something dodgy.

[jellywrestler]

Would appear it was a scam to steal it as the money he put in account turns out is a chq and his ride round the shop turned into a ride up the road and didnt come back for the spare parts his mates took off as well.
took off while i was checking the account.
Just post the photo you took of the guys on here and the number plate of their vechile shouldn't take too long before someone recognises them

[pzkpfw]

I was contacted via my trademe add for the gsxr by a guy claiming to be from Hellensville.
He txt me saying he would give me my asking price, wanted to pick up my bike that day and would make a bank deposit straight into my account before meeting me to pick it up. He asked if I could meet him at Westgate.
Sounded a bit odd, guy keen to buy it without seeing, and when I told him that i wasn't willing to give out my bank details to someone I had never spoken to, but that we could meet, go to the local ASB where he could give me the cash, and once change of rego was done, he could take the bike.
After numerous txts back and forwards, I gave him a call. He was insistent that he make the deposit first as he was worried about me taking the cash and then doing a runner (did he think this part through first...I mean, I would have the cash deposited AND still have the bike under his scheme) and that he was having to borrow it from his parents. I told him that he could either get me a bank cheque or bring me cash, that was it...haven't heard from him again.

I am sure he was trying to scam me. Almost went along with it to see what they were up to, but then thought better of getting involved in something dodgy.

I wonder if the local cops would help set up a "sting"?

May sound like fantasy, but a borrowed GPS thing in the bike, a cop ready to go where it goes... or something like that.

[barty5]

I was contacted via my trademe add for the gsxr by a guy claiming to be from Hellensville.
He txt me saying he would give me my asking price, wanted to pick up my bike that day and would make a bank deposit straight into my account before meeting me to pick it up. He asked if I could meet him at Westgate.
Sounded a bit odd, guy keen to buy it without seeing, and when I told him that i wasn't willing to give out my bank details to someone I had never spoken to, but that we could meet, go to the local ASB where he could give me the cash, and once change of rego was done, he could take the bike.
After numerous txts back and forwards, I gave him a call. He was insistent that he make the deposit first as he was worried about me taking the cash and then doing a runner (did he think this part through first...I mean, I would have the cash deposited AND still have the bike under his scheme) and that he was having to borrow it from his parents. I told him that he could either get me a bank cheque or bring me cash, that was it...haven't heard from him again.

I am sure he was trying to scam me. Almost went along with it to see what they were up to, but then thought better of getting involved in something dodgy.

do you still have the text it will be same people young sounding guy we could set him up if not i have his number might pay to set him up tell him you have re thought it and happy to meet him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

[QUOTE=Brett;1130107057]I was contacted via my trademe add for the gsxr by a guy claiming to be from Hellensville.
QUOTE]

Pass his number on...tell someone to contact him offering him their bike, as you gave them his number as you've decided to keep your bike. Set a meeting point, and collar the cunt.

[Brett]

do you still have the text it will be same people young sounding guy we could set him up if not i have his number might pay to set him up tell him you have re thought it and happy to meet him.

Yeah I still have them. In fact, txtd him this morning asking if he still wanted the gsxr, he txtd back:

Me: hey mate, are u still keen on buying the gsxr?

Him: how much

Me: Same as ur offer the other day

Him: I was lukn at a few kant remember sorry.

previous txts

Him: hae mate ill give u 8100 for your gsxr todae

Me: Ok, where in the country are you from.

Him: helinsville would u b able to meet me in westgate,,

Me: Yes, when?

Him: in abowt an hour, wats your bank detailz so I kan make a cash deposit in to your acc

Me: most banks are at westgate, can get bank cheque or cash out there and do the change of rego at the same time.

Him: I do that online and im putting cash into ur acc bcause i need receipt u kan check it as soon as ive put cash in it shows up instantly.

Me: Sorry mate, a bit wary of scammers on trademe, not really willing to give out bank details to someone I have never met or spoken to. Just try to call ur number but went to voicemail.

Him: sorry mi ph plyn up, i kant do anything with ur acc num but deposit cash in.

Me: Who do you bank with?

Him: tsb but it doesn't matter i taking cash to ur bank and putting it in 2 your acc.

Me: do you have a landline I can contact you on?

Him: no i dont, and ime dpositing cash, not a bank transfer.

Me: The give cash straight to me when I give you the bike and I will take care of it. I will give u a written signed receipt or we can deposit it into the ASB at westgate together.

Him: kall

* So I call him, he tries to explain that he doesn't want to do it at the swap because he has had guys just gap off with his money on him...(how is giving me the money earlier via a deposit any better???) I offered to meet him at his house to do the trade and he made excuses saying that he lives in Hellensville and it is really far. This is when he told me his parents were giving him the money to buy the bike so would need to talk to them first. Never heard back from him.

The I sent the text messages this morning and got the replies above.

[Brett]

do you still have the text it will be same people young sounding guy we could set him up if not i have his number might pay to set him up tell him you have re thought it and happy to meet him.

Happy to do this, but if you want to go down the path of getting him prosecuted, not sure how this will stand up legally (entrapment). My brother and his gf who both live out by Westgate are cops, could see if they can give us a hand, or organise some of the local cops to give us a hand. Yes he was a youngish sounding guy.

[barty5]

Happy to do this, but if you want to go down the path of getting him prosecuted, not sure how this will stand up legally (entrapment). My brother and his gf who both live out by Westgate are cops, could see if they can give us a hand, or organise some of the local cops to give us a hand. Yes he was a youngish sounding guy.

give us a call 5245571

[ukusa]

Happy to do this, but if you want to go down the path of getting him prosecuted, not sure how this will stand up legally (entrapment). My brother and his gf who both live out by Westgate are cops, could see if they can give us a hand, or organise some of the local cops to give us a hand. Yes he was a youngish sounding guy.

text him back & tell him rather than cash, you're keen for a swap with a dirt bike of similar value if he has one.

[Brett]

text him back & tell him rather than cash, you're keen for a swap with a dirt bike of similar value if he has one.

Yeah thought about it, but don't want to get his suspicions up. Hopefully he hasn't already decided I am trouble, he hasn't text me back since I told him I want to go ahead with the deal.

[L Rider]

A guy on a stolen bike has crashed into a car, I think in West Auck, and is in a serious condition. Maybe thats him

[Crasherfromwayback]

give us a call 5245571


A guy on a stolen bike has crashed into a car, I think in West Auck, and is in a serious condition. Maybe thats him

We live in hope!!!

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/9834852/rider-of-stolen-motorcycle-seriously-injured-in-crash/

[White trash]

We live in hope!!!

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/9834852/rider-of-stolen-motorcycle-seriously-injured-in-crash/

Yeah, unfortunately the bike's likely to have sustained fairly significant damage too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, unfortunately the bike's likely to have sustained fairly significant damage too.

If it's the YZF, it won't be too bad I'm sure! After all...I slammed my RMZ into an immovable object at around 120kph, and it broke the clutch lever.

[White trash]

If it's the YZF, it won't be too bad I'm sure! After all...I slammed my RMZ into an immovable object at around 120kph, and it broke the clutch lever.

What sort of fuckwit would be riding around, on the road, on a motocross bike the day after he nicked it anyway? Surely no one's THAT fuckin dumb.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What sort of fuckwit would be riding around, on the road, on a motocross bike the day after he nicked it anyway? Surely no one's THAT fuckin dumb.

You'd be surprised. He may have also just stolen another one!!!

[Brett]

What sort of fuckwit would be riding around, on the road, on a motocross bike the day after he nicked it anyway? Surely no one's THAT fuckin dumb.

Have spoken to the cops, this guy and his group have stolen over 25 cars and bikes now. If it is them, it will be a different bike to the YZF stolen from Newmarket.

[L Rider]

He rode it some distance on the road after taking it yesterday - so not the brightest crayon in the box!
My guess if its the same guy/group this was probably the lastest bike they took today.

[Bradz]

Yep, not smart, I saw him on the North Western in the fast lane about 3.30pm yesterday, plenty of traffic, on a MX bike... not smart at all...

[barty5]

ok soo cops found bike at his address motor is stuffed so they say will see tomorrow.
The one from today was a late model kawasaki so different bike

[Latte]

ok soo cops found bike at his address motor is stuffed so they say will see tomorrow.
The one from today was a late model kawasaki so different bike

I spose at least they got the bike back. So it was the same guy that crashed today?

I guess full tilt the whole way along the Norwestern wouldnt be the best way to treat an MX bike.

[barty5]

I spose at least they got the bike back. So it was the same guy that crashed today?

I guess full tilt the whole way along the Norwestern wouldnt be the best way to treat an MX bike.

no the guy that crashed was different guy but part of the same group there is about 15 to 20 involved minors as well and they arnt talkin to the cops very tight lipped they where after skylines to start with then in the last few weeks utes and motor bike of any sort. was told it is upwards of 20 cars etc and 5 plus bikes

[racefactory]

How did he wreck the motor in one ride? Didn't do a good job of that one did he...

[dogsnbikes]

no the guy that crashed was different guy but part of the same group there is about 15 to 20 involved minors as well and they arnt talkin to the cops very tight lipped they where after skylines to start with then in the last few weeks utes and motor bike of any sort. was told it is upwards of 20 cars etc and 5 plus bikes

So the cops bustered the local training scheme...which poly tech was that:innocent:

Problem is though the minors are being skilled in the art and they know the cops can do bugger all too them so they will be out roaming as they please looking for other things that dont belong too them

Glad they making progress though

[barty5]

How did he wreck the motor in one ride? Didn't do a good job of that one did he...

you jump on a 450 mx bike and ride it a little on or over 100ks down the motor way for 20ks and see how well it stands the test of time it would have been totally cooked. it was seen by a mate going down the norwestern motorway passing taffic flat out.

[Crasherfromwayback]

How did he wreck the motor in one ride? Didn't do a good job of that one did he...

Told you they didn't like being held flat out for long periods mate!


you jump on a 450 mx bike and ride it a little on or over 100ks down the motor way for 20ks and see how well it stands the test of time it would have been totally cooked. it was seen by a mate going down the norwestern motorway passing taffic flat out.

I rang you today...to see if it was your bike and left you a message! Pete (Wellington Motorcycles)

[barty5]

Told you they didn't like being held flat out for long periods mate!



I rang you today...to see if it was your bike and left you a message! Pete (Wellington Motorcycles)

must have been after i left to go to the cops to look at photos any chance you could fax a replacement quote up was in mint cond needed for insurance 5248971

[racefactory]

you jump on a 450 mx bike and ride it a little on or over 100ks down the motor way for 20ks and see how well it stands the test of time it would have been totally cooked. it was seen by a mate going down the norwestern motorway passing taffic flat out.

I do it everyday on a ktm, no problem.

[barty5]

I do it everyday on a ktm, no problem.

exc would be my guess or you changed the gearing

[racefactory]

Correct. What does a YZF450 do in 4th gear tops out of interest?

[barty5]

Correct. What does a YZF450 do in 4th gear tops on the stock dirt setup?

havnt clocked it my guess is top in 5th would be a bit ova 100 the diff is the exc is enduro and has longer gears so can be used on the road most also have 6 gears and the 6th is like an over drive. So in short to take my 450 down the motor way an be passing every one while doing in when there is good flowing traffic would mean it was sitting on the limiter or close to for a good 10- 15 minutes. appart from the fact if didnt even get a chance to warm up be fore he took of.

[racefactory]

Hope you get as much reparation for the bike as possible and that the motor is an easy fix mate. Maybe just fudged rings and cylinder? Who knows.

[Brett]

no the guy that crashed was different guy but part of the same group there is about 15 to 20 involved minors as well and they arnt talkin to the cops very tight lipped they where after skylines to start with then in the last few weeks utes and motor bike of any sort. was told it is upwards of 20 cars etc and 5 plus bikes

Wow, didn't expect there to be so many of them. The cop I spoke to today (the one you gave my details to) mentioned that the number of cars and bike nicked...I was a bit amazed. Pity only busted one of them, doubt this will be much of a deterrent to them unfortunately, likely to get a slap on the wrist, not much more than can do to minors.

[kilgh]

Well, hopefully threads like this will us all more savvy!

[ducatilover]

Bloody arsehats! I'm glad nobody wants to steal a ZZR600D :yes: (Shit, I hope so anyway) I hope the lot of the pricks get done, beaten and hanged.

[breakaway]

I was contacted via my trademe add for the gsxr by a guy claiming to be from Hellensville.
He txt me saying he would give me my asking price, wanted to pick up my bike that day and would make a bank deposit straight into my account before meeting me to pick it up. He asked if I could meet him at Westgate.
Sounded a bit odd, guy keen to buy it without seeing, and when I told him that i wasn't willing to give out my bank details to someone I had never spoken to, but that we could meet, go to the local ASB where he could give me the cash, and once change of rego was done, he could take the bike.
After numerous txts back and forwards, I gave him a call. He was insistent that he make the deposit first as he was worried about me taking the cash and then doing a runner (did he think this part through first...I mean, I would have the cash deposited AND still have the bike under his scheme) and that he was having to borrow it from his parents. I told him that he could either get me a bank cheque or bring me cash, that was it...haven't heard from him again.

I am sure he was trying to scam me. Almost went along with it to see what they were up to, but then thought better of getting involved in something dodgy.

No offence but that sounds like a 100% legit deal. I've bought several bikes via internet transfer, then go pick it up when the seller is happy the funds have cleared. As a buyer I have always insisted on nothing but cold hard cash, and no test rides till the money is in my hands, and I can eyeball that it's about the right amount. Test rides allowed while I count the cash.

Way more legit than allowing some fuckwit to ride your bike without any of his tangible assets in your hand, that's for sure.

Also, being afraid to give out your bank account number is like being worried someone will break into your house after you've told them what country you live in. It just doesn't make sense.

[barty5]

Well had a look at bike still all together blown fork seals has an extra 4-5 hrs on it motor started but was tight to turn over at 1st rather noisey engine now the nice fresh oil is as black as the ace a spades and dont smell to good either has been rather hot and has a fair bit of clutch wear in it as well. tyre have got nice round knobies now sharp edges are all gone. front pads also took a roasting as they are all but gone. and it needs a real good wash. couldnt see much else wasnt in the best light to look at it.

[motor_mayhem]

At least you got it back again. They didn't happen to find any of mine there I wonder?

[racefactory]

Well had a look at bike still all together blown fork seals has an extra 4-5 hrs on it motor started but was tight to turn over at 1st rather noisey engine now the nice fresh oil is as black as the ace a spades and dont smell to good either has been rather hot and has a fair bit of clutch wear in it as well. tyre have got nice round knobies now sharp edges are all gone. front pads also took a roasting as they are all but gone. and it needs a real good wash. couldnt see much else wasnt in the best light to look at it.

Reckon he went up a curb at full tit and blew the seals? Front pads gone? How the hell can you do this much damage I wonder, man these guys are such goons.

[Brett]

No offence but that sounds like a 100% legit deal. I've bought several bikes via internet transfer, then go pick it up when the seller is happy the funds have cleared. As a buyer I have always insisted on nothing but cold hard cash, and no test rides till the money is in my hands, and I can eyeball that it's about the right amount. Test rides allowed while I count the cash.

Way more legit than allowing some fuckwit to ride your bike without any of his tangible assets in your hand, that's for sure.

Also, being afraid to give out your bank account number is like being worried someone will break into your house after you've told them what country you live in. It just doesn't make sense.

When things don't feel right, go with gut instinct. The communication and deal felt all wrong. When I googled the number of the clown I was communicating with, some interesting things came up, enough to make me wary of him. He was clearly trying to direct how things went. What's to say I don't show up and have 5 of the clowns forcibly try to take it from me at the meeting? I am not a small dude and more than capable of preventing this happening, but avoid trouble if possible thanks.