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nzspokes
17th July 2011, 08:20
Just watching MotoGP, never really watched it before. Why do they take the feet off the pegs going into turns? Are they just stretching? lol.
Shit there fast....:shit:
Maha
17th July 2011, 08:44
...they are pointing out a potential hazzard on the track to following riders.
racefactory
17th July 2011, 08:47
Rossi started it. It somehow gives them a better feeling on the braking before turn in. It's something you have to do yourself to see why. No real answer, just a feeling thing. They say also might help a little bit with helping it tip in to the corner.
Ntoxcated
17th July 2011, 08:51
Shit there fast....:shit:
Is that just fast enough to have shit there? :facepalm:
bogan
17th July 2011, 10:15
Is that just fast enough to have shit there? :facepalm:
Well you would have to do it quick to avoid getting a lazy boot up the arse as the next rider comes through :innocent:
BMWST?
17th July 2011, 10:28
some also say it just helps with the turn in,and get a little bit of extra weight to the inside.Might also discourage someone trying to come up the inside.Rossi really seems to stick his leg further out from the bike,Stoner and Dovi seem to just have it off the peg
sinfull
17th July 2011, 10:32
Bloody reformed Motard riders !
BurningPlastic
17th July 2011, 11:25
Read an interview with Rossi on cornering a while back and he said that taking his foot off the peg stopped him from putting any weight on that peg and meant that his weight all came through the centre of his body/outside leg... I believe it was to help his weight distribution when braking.
BurningPlastic
17th July 2011, 11:26
I think I might have the magazine in the garage - I'll see if it's there later today...
Crasherfromwayback
17th July 2011, 11:30
The odd person has been doing it for way longer than Rossi has been around for.
Two of the hardest late brakers around at the mo (Lorenzo and Spies) don't bother.
Ask yourself.
pritch
17th July 2011, 11:43
The odd person has been doing it for way longer than Rossi has been around for.
I understand that you just don't like to give Rossi credit for anything, but it would be good to see something that actually supported that statement.
All the quotes I've seen say Rossi started it and I'd never seen anybody do it previously. Now many others do it, and some, like Sufoglu(sp?), do it with the left leg as well.
Crasherfromwayback
17th July 2011, 11:51
I understand that you just don't like to give Rossi credit for anything, but it would be good to see something that actually supported that statement.
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Then you understand incorrectly. I don't have access to a certain picture right now, but I'll be sure to post it up when I do. Meantime...have a look at a fair few of my posts here on KB where I openly and happily say Rossi is one of the best motorcycle racers of all time. He's just not God is all. I would love to have a fraction of his talent and skill.
BurningPlastic
17th July 2011, 11:56
People definitely took their foot off the peg in a similar manner before Rossi, but whether they did it for the same reasons is a matter of debate. He was at least one of the first to do it regularly, and almost definitely the reason it's become popular...
Crasherfromwayback
17th July 2011, 12:05
He was at least one of the first to do it regularly, and almost definitely the reason it's become popular...
With you 100% there!
jonbuoy
18th July 2011, 03:35
I thought it was to poke it out of the fairing slipstream as a kind of airbrake?
cheesemethod
18th July 2011, 12:17
It's actually for fending off Marco Simmoncelli.
nodrog
18th July 2011, 12:50
I thought it was to poke it out of the fairing slipstream as a kind of airbrake?
A leg the diameter of a pipe cleaner isnt going to do fuckall as an airbrake.
BurningPlastic
18th July 2011, 12:53
It's actually for fending off Marco Simmoncelli.
Marco's a big boy - a leg won't get in his way... More likely to end up with both of you in the gravel if you tried that...
mnkyboy
18th July 2011, 17:59
Marco would whip out a chainsaw and lop it off if he thought he'd win. (ok maybe not)
Is it me or is moto2 better racing to watch than the gp boys? I think the bigger field make things more interesting. Pissed off that Iannone cant seem to get it together. He reminds me of marco.
Crasherfromwayback
18th July 2011, 18:44
You can't have seen last nights GP race.
jonbuoy
18th July 2011, 19:18
A leg the diameter of a pipe cleaner isnt going to do fuckall as an airbrake.
I´ve no idea but you would think every bit counts if your running at 99.9% of the bikes capabilities.
Timmeh:P
19th July 2011, 13:37
I am on the side that believes it makes no difference, and it's superstition. Good article about it here: http://motomatters.com/opinion/2009/07/22/the_truth_behind_the_rossi_leg_wave.html
"For several decades, American dirt trackers all looked behind the same way: They would leave their left hand on the bar and tuck their head under their left armpit to check on who was back there. Over time, all sorts of theories were produced, most of them having to do with improved aerodynamics from keeping your head down. But people kept asking why they did it, and eventually a pattern developed:
Chris Carr: "I saw Scotty Parker ride that way"...
...Scott Parker: "I learned it from Springer"...
...then Springer [Jay Springsteen] admitted: "Mert Lawill showed me that"...
...at which point Mert admitted "I got that from Bart Markel"
..eventually Black Bart said he learned it from Carroll Resweber, who said he learned it from another Texas Racer, who -when they finally tracked him down - revealed The Secret:
"Hell, boy, I was blind in my left eye... that was the only way I could see behind me!""
Clivoris
19th July 2011, 19:14
Hokey tokey sub-vocalisation?
vifferman
19th July 2011, 19:33
The riders who do it (apart from Rossi) largely do it because they wanted to make sure they weren't missing out on any possible advantage. (Kind of a moot point now that Rossi's not podiuming (is that a word?) much).
I read somewhere they (whoever "they" are) analysed the leg out vs. leg tucked neatly on the peg and found it made no difference, statistically. 'Cept maybe if it makes the rider more confident or whatever.
nothingflash
19th July 2011, 19:35
So it's not the KB wave?!
BurningPlastic
19th July 2011, 19:49
(Kind of a moot point now that Rossi's not podiuming (is that a word?) much).
Depends on how you look at it... Even though he has a bike that's average and still not set up to suit him, he's still moving through at least half the field every race. Once they get the bike sorted he'll likely be back on the podium.
Crasherfromwayback
20th July 2011, 17:19
I understand that you just don't like to give Rossi credit for anything, but it would be good to see something that actually supported that statement.
All the quotes I've seen say Rossi started it and I'd never seen anybody do it previously. Now many others do it, and some, like Sufoglu(sp?), do it with the left leg as well.
All the quotes you've seen are wrong as you'll see now. So you see, it's not at all that I won't give Rossi credit, it's just that I'll do it when he deserves it. This is Pat Hennan. Weapon.:yes:243205
So I realize you may've thought I was simply talking shit, but believe it or not, I don't tend to do that. I've just been round a while and seen a bit.
Hitcher
20th July 2011, 20:39
Shit there fast
There fast? No. They're (short for they are) fast.
roogazza
21st July 2011, 08:21
[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1130112665] This is Pat Hennan. Weapon.:yes:243205
Thanks for the shot.Dale Wylie (#48) was a wonderful NZ talent and great to watch.
Quasievil
21st July 2011, 08:26
Imagine if they did that on a motard amongst sportsbikes there would be a right royal fuss about it, seen they are on all sportsbikes I guess that makes it ok !!
ok thats my shit stir outta the way.
As Jaden Hussen he does it all the time.
on a side note
I rode the R1 into town the other day and came up to a red light that was about to turn green,m the bike became a tad wobbly at the really low speed, I put my foot out to balance it and of course that worked, but it dawned on me that that would offer the same balancing if the bike was squirming around under hard braking.........................or would it ?
Crasherfromwayback
21st July 2011, 08:27
[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1130112665] This is Pat Hennan. Weapon.:yes:243205
Thanks for the shot.Dale Wylie (#48) was a wonderful NZ talent and great to watch.
Sure was! One of the many cool things about having worked in so many good bike shops, is that I've worked with/for so many good cunts that have been there and done that with a lot of history. I've seen thousands of cool race pics (and quite a few road racers with the foot off the peg over the years), and met some real legends of the sport.
roogazza
21st July 2011, 08:40
[QUOTE=roogazza;1130113060]
Sure was! One of the many cool things about having worked in so many good bike shops, is that I've worked with/for so many good cunts that have been there and done that with a lot of history. I've seen thousands of cool race pics (and quite a few road racers with the foot off the peg over the years), and met some real legends of the sport.
We had a little reunion last Thursday night at a pub in town. Ten turned up, was great to see them, all from round that Marlboro era mid 70s'.
Crasherfromwayback
21st July 2011, 08:46
[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1130113066]
We had a little reunion last Thursday night at a pub in town. Ten turned up, was great to see them, all from round that Marlboro era mid 70s'.
Plenty of beers had I can imagine, to sooth the hoarse throats after all of the bench racing that no doubt went on!
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