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Shaun P
23rd July 2011, 20:36
Whats the go with the likes of Ducati 1198, RSV4, RC8R etc racing in NZ? cost aside, do they not achieve homologation or is something else stopping them from being out there racing in NZ? e.g lack of distributor support or otherwise? They would all make a great platforms to develop from
BMWST?
23rd July 2011, 20:38
cost aside

how do you do that?
CHOPPA
23rd July 2011, 21:15
Check out the entries for the winter series BEARS.
Crash 42
24th July 2011, 19:54
That BMW that the chopper guy is on seems pretty freakin' exotic to me :p
Kickaha
24th July 2011, 21:13
That BMW that the chopper guy is on seems pretty freakin' exotic to me :p

yeah, he just needs a few riding lessons to make him fast :whistle:
wharfy
25th July 2011, 15:48
Check out the entries for the winter series BEARS.

what he said
racefactory
25th July 2011, 21:51
I always wondered if a Ducati 999 would be reliable for racing? Do they generally blow up?
onearmedbandit
25th July 2011, 22:53
I always wondered if a Ducati 999 would be reliable for racing? Do they generally blow up?

The Middle Eastern models have a tendency to go bang, but generally only extremist tuned examples.
Latte
25th July 2011, 23:02
The Middle Eastern models have a tendency to go bang, but generally only extremist tuned examples.

As opposed to the fundamentalist versions? (too soon?)
Shaun P
26th July 2011, 22:08
Anyone had a look at US new prices on these vs NZ retail... 10k+ on some models:sick:
tigertim20
26th July 2011, 22:48
Anyone had a look at US new prices on these vs NZ retail... 10k+ on some models:sick:

having just returned from about a month in the USA, yes, I have looked at that. If I was going to buy a brand new race bike, Id seriously consider buying in the USA and shipping over, it would be purchase plus shipping then go racing. Id also consider it for a road bike too. I have the numbers somewhere for buying from the USA a brand new left over 2010, or 2009 R1 still on dealers floors, shipping it here, and getting it legal. Youd save fucking heaps. The only thing stopping me from doing it tomorrow is the fact that I dont have the money in the bank. If I did, Id do it in a heartbeat.
slowpoke
27th July 2011, 10:57
Hmmmm, hard to think of any reason to run something erotic, oops exotic, unless you just loved the bike and cost wasn't an issue. It's not just the price of the bike but also the spares, wheels etc that you inevitably need.

An 1198/RSV4/S1000RR is gonna be a similar price to this:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-389581037.htm

....and it'll be slower.

But you would get more racing opportunities with the exotic, so it wouldn't all be bad news....if you could afford it.
johan
29th July 2011, 16:52
I was watching World Superstock from Brno last night and was surprised to see the 1198 keeping up with the BMWs on the straights. Top four result was two BMW and two Ducati.

I had to look up the World Superstock rules, it appears basically nothing in the engines are allowed to be modified, if I'm not mistaken?

Also, no change of suspension linkage or triple offset etc.

Rule 2.7.8
http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/SBK_en.pdf

I was a bit surprised by the 1198's performance.
CHOPPA
29th July 2011, 22:10
....and it'll be slower.


I disagree... :woohoo:
steveyb
29th July 2011, 22:40
I was watching World Superstock from Brno last night and was surprised to see the 1198 keeping up with the BMWs on the straights. Top four result was two BMW and two Ducati.

I had to look up the World Superstock rules, it appears basically nothing in the engines are allowed to be modified, if I'm not mistaken?

Also, no change of suspension linkage or triple offset etc.

Rule 2.7.8
http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/SBK_en.pdf

I was a bit surprised by the 1198's performance.

Ah go on with ya, you know that they are secretly 1300cc!!!!!
slowpoke
30th July 2011, 14:48
I disagree... :woohoo:

Geddaway wiff ya! I thought ya wanted more neddies to compete with the durty jappa's? You got the gizmo's, they got the grunt, which would ya rather have? Don't be greedy and ask for both, lol.
flame
4th August 2011, 18:27
Whats the go with the likes of Ducati 1198, RSV4, RC8R etc racing in NZ? cost aside, do they not achieve homologation or is something else stopping them from being out there racing in NZ? e.g lack of distributor support or otherwise? They would all make a great platforms to develop from

They are out there, quite a few racing at VMCC winter serries Duc's Bmw's,RSV4's. I have raced my RSV4 this season, hope to be in SuperStock next summer :)

No more exp than a Jappa, possibly cheaper (except maybe the Duc's) as they seem to have good HP straight out of the box standard, so not as much needs to be spent to make a competive bike....compared to a Gix anyway. (run and hide now lol) :shutup: