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mashman
26th May 2014, 16:14
Some strict lending regulations in some countries. (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/iran-billionaire-executed-over-2-104931105.html)... damned strict.

bogan
26th May 2014, 16:17
Why not both. If the roads will need replacing less often, then why not?

Because there is still plenty of rooftop space. You could just do the top half of those tiles for the road with same durability (if indeed it is any better, which I doubt), and put the bottom half on a roof, and throw away all the lights/heaters/other things the tiles have in them. It just seems like a more efficient solution to split it up.

mashman
26th May 2014, 16:29
Because there is still plenty of rooftop space. You could just do the top half of those tiles for the road with same durability (if indeed it is any better, which I doubt), and put the bottom half on a roof, and throw away all the lights/heaters/other things the tiles have in them. It just seems like a more efficient solution to split it up.

Furry muff. Mind, it might be terribly upsetting for the neighbours.

mashman
28th May 2014, 12:47
'Slaughterhouse': Civilians die in Kiev's ruthless military attacks (GRAPHIC) (http://rt.com/news/161772-eastern-ukraine-attack-deaths/)

US trains Syrian rebels in Qatar to ‘ambush' soldiers and 'finish off' the wounded – report (http://rt.com/news/161820-us-trains-syrian-rebels/)

US sends assault ship with 1,000 Marines near Libya, asks Americans to 'depart immediately' (http://rt.com/news/161832-marines-warship-libya-coast/)

:facepalm:

Brian d marge
28th May 2014, 13:41
Only if he believed in Dog.

which one? he had two !

Stephen

Brian d marge
30th May 2014, 14:01
proof positive they have no idea...

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27615551

in a nut shell

snip' ( from another article )
This means that soon the Bank of Japan will be required to rapidly monetise the JGB stock by printing money to buy them. The government’s cost of funds will remain artificially depressed, but the strain will be taken by both the forex market and, given the difficulty with attracting yen denominated real savings, commercial interest rates in the currency. …

Ja I speak jerman ya .....dat man wiv de funny hair upper lip he seems a nice man ,,,,,

Stephen

http://www.clearonmoney.com/dw/doku.php?id=investment:commentary:2011:02:21-getting_close_to_a_turning_point_on_japan_s_debt

blue rider
1st June 2014, 08:41
funny

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/may/29/drugs-prostitution-uk-national-accounts

Brian d marge
2nd June 2014, 23:30
Hurry up I WANT A CHEAP TV

http://www.moneynews.com/MKTNewsIntl/Stock-market-recession-alert/2014/02/10/id/551985/?promo_code=166D4-1&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral


The bond rate have to rise first ...........

hope its in time for xmas

Stephen

mashman
3rd June 2014, 10:04
Hurry up I WANT A CHEAP TV

http://www.moneynews.com/MKTNewsIntl/Stock-market-recession-alert/2014/02/10/id/551985/?promo_code=166D4-1&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral


The bond rate have to rise first ...........

hope its in time for xmas

Stephen

crash crash crash crash crash crash...

BoristheBiter
3rd June 2014, 10:19
crash crash crash crash crash crash...

Do you lay awake at night with the weight of the world crushing you?

mashman
3rd June 2014, 11:35
Do you lay awake at night with the weight of the world crushing you?

Only on a good day.

BoristheBiter
3rd June 2014, 14:28
Only on a good day.

must suck to be you then.

mashman
3rd June 2014, 14:33
must suck to be you then.

Not really.

blue rider
5th June 2014, 20:47
how it was and how it will be again

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/04/coalition-attacks-nhs-return-britain-age-workhouse

blue rider
6th June 2014, 07:40
interesting stuff from the netherlands

http://www.railway-technology.com/news/newseneco-to-power-electric-trains-with-green-energy-in-netherlands-4269898

Brian d marge
6th June 2014, 18:18
I have a new bug out vehicle

297667

three weeks of going to and fro from work ...... 1 litre of petrol

happy camper

Stephen

fk its slow though

unstuck
6th June 2014, 18:50
I have a new bug out vehicle

297667

three weeks of going to and fro from work ...... 1 litre of petrol

happy camper

Stephen

fk its slow though

Nice looking Puch. :2thumbsup

Brian d marge
6th June 2014, 21:31
Nice looking Puch. :2thumbsup

Tomos hahahaa needs to be matt black or desert storm camo

Stephen

mashman
6th June 2014, 22:32
Some of the fear mongers finest work (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/technology/24186332/vodafone-says-governments-have-direct-access-to-eavesdrop-in-some-countries/#)

Brian d marge
6th June 2014, 22:48
Some of the fear mongers finest work (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/technology/24186332/vodafone-says-governments-have-direct-access-to-eavesdrop-in-some-countries/#)

Just left a message they should be round soon

hope they bring the pizzas I ordered

stephen

mashman
6th June 2014, 22:49
Hey Presto (Only market access issues remained, and it was not possible to "sign off 21st century rules and ignore 20th century unresolved market access issues", many of them in agriculture.) :shit: I take it they're talking BC.

"Only market access issues remained, and it was not possible to "sign off 21st century rules and ignore 20th century unresolved market access issues", many of them in agriculture."

mashman
6th June 2014, 22:52
Just left a message they should be round soon

hope they bring the pizzas I ordered

stephen

Beware ninja's bearing pizza.

unstuck
7th June 2014, 06:46
Tomos hahahaa needs to be matt black or desert storm camo

Stephen

Tomos is just a Puch with a different name, is it not? :whistle:
They do make some cool looking stuff though.:2thumbsup

SPman
9th June 2014, 15:08
apropo nothing....

We live in an age of revelation. There has never been era in which so much clear and glaring evidence of so many horrific crimes and abuses by state and private power has been so widely and freely available. Year after year, the revelations pile up. None of it makes any difference (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/05/edward-snowden-one-year-nsa-surveillance-reform). Instead, power doubles down.

This week, the UK government -- which was supposedly "rocked" and "shaken" by the Snowden revelations in the Guardian -- announced it will hold its first completely secret trial (http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/04/uk-secret-terrorism-trial-legal-justice-human-rights) for hundreds of years. (It is, of course, a trial of two "suspected terrorists.") This is how "rocked" the UK government has been by the "scandal" of its eager cooperation with the NSA's secret Stasi-like operations. This is how effective these world-changing revelations have been in forcing more "transparency" in government. The UK is about to step back into medieval times, violating the principles laid down in the Magna Carta -- 800 years ago.

But this is all of a piece with the general trend, the ever-more obvious agenda of the ruling elite. From neoliberalism to neofascism to, ultimately, neofeudalism: a new dark age, where the rabble live in fear and want, at the mercy of powerful, unaccountable elites locked away in gated splendor. (Though to be sure, they will sally forth now and then in squabbles amongst themselves for a bigger share of loot and power -- squabbles which inevitably involve the death and ruin of multitudes of innocent people.) As noted here (http://chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/2397-cant-slay-the-serpent-marching-backward-into-darkness.html)the other day, old evils -- fascism, racism, nationalism, feudalism -- don't die. They return in new forms, and have to be fought again, over and over.

unstuck
9th June 2014, 17:23
Marketing huh.............Stupid sheeple.
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Ocean1
9th June 2014, 17:36
apropo nothing....

Next time put "neoliberal" and "ruling elite" near the front of the piece, eh?


I won't waste nearly as much time.

blue rider
9th June 2014, 21:03
:laugh:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/uber-18-billion_n_5460748.html?utm_hp_ref=business&ir=Business

jonbuoy
10th June 2014, 06:30
:laugh:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/uber-18-billion_n_5460748.html?utm_hp_ref=business&ir=Business

Great idea - another one I wish I had thought of earlier..

blue rider
10th June 2014, 15:07
lots of critters seem to die en masse, oh well....

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/farmers-still-reeling/1111616.html

http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/mass-animal-deaths-23781766/image-23782898

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2014/05/19/lake-champlain-fish-die-offs-the-new-normal-according-to-biologists

more links below

http://icwatch.wordpress.com/mass-animal-deaths-march-april-2013/

blue rider
10th June 2014, 19:12
negative deposit rate

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-05/draghi-takes-ecb-deposit-rate-negative-in-historic-move.html: facepalm:

puddytat
10th June 2014, 20:03
The French are right....tear up Public Debt
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/09/french-public-debt-audit-illegitimate-working-class-internationalim


Deine link geht nicht Bluey

Brian d marge
11th June 2014, 01:06
The French are right....tear up Public Debt
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/09/french-public-debt-audit-illegitimate-working-class-internationalim


Deine link geht nicht Bluey

Not going to happen , You watch what will happen to Iceland in a few years ..ya dont stand between the man and the money

nice try france but it will be tears at bedtime if ya go down that path

Stefan

Ocean1
11th June 2014, 08:51
The French are right....tear up Public Debt

I got as far as this spectacularly self-contradictory bit: "Debt, rather than popular will, is the governing principle of our societies, through the devastating austerity policies implemented in the name of debt reduction." before I gave up.

unstuck
11th June 2014, 09:10
70% of bread in france is made fresh daily.:drool:

oldrider
11th June 2014, 11:31
The French are right....tear up Public Debt
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/09/french-public-debt-audit-illegitimate-working-class-internationalim


Deine link geht nicht Bluey

This is true and if you can take the time to read this then you have time to read and understand the basics of Social Credit!

Only one political party in New Zealand is offering "social credit" as an option and it is here: http://www.democrats.org.nz/

scrivy
11th June 2014, 16:15
Hmmmm..... Why is Belgium buying truckloads of US treasury bonds?????
Apart from keeping the US from declaring bankrupcy......... why else....???

Brian d marge
11th June 2014, 16:23
Hmmmm..... Why is Belgium buying truckloads of US treasury bonds?????Apart from keeping the US from declaring bankrupcy......... why else....???see my post a while back glad someone else noticed that ...If you help us , we will help you kinda thing Now what an earth are the US up to in that region , missiles , ruski natural gas, cheap eastern bloc hookers ?oh well ...hope its not to long before I get my TV .....Stephen

mashman
11th June 2014, 16:31
The French are right....tear up Public Debt
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/09/french-public-debt-audit-illegitimate-working-class-internationalim


Deine link geht nicht Bluey

My concern is that that isn't going to be enough. Debt jubilees have been tried before and failed back then. Now that's not a reason not to try it, don't get me wrong (as so many like to, lol), if we've got nothing better, then why not. The world has an awful lot of people to cater for as it is and I don't see how burning the economic candle twice as fast will do anything other than to add to problems that will screw generations that are yet to come.

NOW there is a way that will work :laugh:

Brian d marge
11th June 2014, 16:39
things may be hotting up in the Ukraine maybe?http://www.hangthebankers.com/why-the-hell-is-belgium-buying-so-much-us-debt/Stupid website wont let me edit my last post ...Stephen

blue rider
11th June 2014, 17:47
oh well...

http://accforum.org/forums/index.php?/topic/16092-work-ability-assessments-done-for-work-and-income-%E2%80%93-partly-following-acc%E2%80%99s-approach-a-revealing-fact-study/

http://accforum.org/forums/index.php?/topic/15463-designated-doctors-%E2%80%93-used-by-work-and-income-some-also-used-by-acc/

1.Imf warning –
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10139965/IMF-warns-NZ-about-housing-bubble
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/nzs-economic-bubble-will-end-disaster-economist-who-predicted-gfc-ck-155028

. Interest rate rising
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11270128

Dollar go up –
http://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/daily-forex-update-technical/2014/05/01/
Manufacturing jobs down
http://www.mbie.govt.nz/what-we-do/business-growth-agenda/sectors-reports-series/pdf-document-library/nz-sectors-report.pdf
5) Business confidence down 9%
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11263371

6) http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11261091

7) Regional economic divide: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/budget-2014-tale-two-cities-156205


we are all rockstars in this economyy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeUuoxyt_E

unstuck
11th June 2014, 18:10
Some of us are Rock SUPERstars too. :shifty:
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scrivy
11th June 2014, 20:51
see my post a while back glad someone else noticed that ...If you help us , we will help you kinda thing Now what an earth are the US up to in that region , missiles , ruski natural gas, cheap eastern bloc hookers ?oh well ...hope its not to long before I get my TV .....Stephen

Nothing to do with the EU being based there..................????
Nothing to do with NATO being based there...................????

Surely not...................????:scratch::facepalm::shut up:

Brian d marge
11th June 2014, 21:10
from a link above ;

Snip:

But it warns that a housing bubble - or as it puts it "expectations-driven, self-reinforcing demand dynamics and price overshooting" -

WTF>>>>>>>that is more wank than I post on KB , and Im an expert .

I bow to this writer use of ..um legalwheeze

JUST gimmi my TV or Ill shoot !

Stephen

Brian d marge
12th June 2014, 01:46
really really deceitful

and WE WILL pay for it

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Stephen

SPman
12th June 2014, 16:56
Hmmmm..... Why is Belgium buying truckloads of US treasury bonds?????
Apart from keeping the US from declaring bankrupcy......... why else....???

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/12/fed-great-deceiver-paul-craig-roberts/

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/20/belgium-treasury-purchase/

They are getting closer - when Russia, China Iran and others start trading in their own currency, the dollar will start to plummet......

Brian d marge
13th June 2014, 00:21
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/12/fed-great-deceiver-paul-craig-roberts/

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/20/belgium-treasury-purchase/

They are getting closer - when Russia, China Iran and others start trading in their own currency, the dollar will start to plummet......

Let me add to this
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and


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While there may indeed be a chance of conflict ,,,more and likely the medium of exchange will change and the debt will be erroded through inflation , ala as what happened in the 70 , the great inflation

Stephen

Brian d marge
13th June 2014, 01:23
shear and utter stupidity at work here

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/fieldays/10148785/Chinas-child-policy-change-to-boost-NZ-dairying

At least, dumb and dumber to , is classed as entertainment

NZ agriculture was last time I checked 5 % of gdp ...so the other 90 % hangs of the * bedrock* of 5%

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wibble

Stephen

ps.....

Harbin, China — JPMorgan Chase Bank (China) Company Limited today announced the opening of its Harbin branch, the bank's sixth branch in mainland China. The new branch will accelerate J.P. Morgan's expansion into China's northeastern region, and is an important milestone in the firm's continuing expansion in China.
The branch in Harbin positions the bank to capture the immense growth potential in China's northeastern region by offering a broad range of wholesale financial products and services. These include cash management, trade finance, loans, foreign exchange, and risk management.
Gaby Abdelnour, Chairman and CEO of J.P. Morgan Asia Pacific said, "We are pleased to announce our presence in Harbin, a great city with a rich cultural, industrial and financial heritage. The opening of Harbin branch demonstrates our continued commitment to expanding our footprint in China."

Brian d marge
13th June 2014, 02:06
now which *think big* piss-head borrowed the money ........hmmmm

and how come a toothless old crone has more sense than our glorious leader

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Stephen

ps Ive been following oban on facebook for a year or so , I liked the cut of his jib...

BUT , like Iceland , ya dont go stiffin the man for his 2lb of flesh , it WILL end in tears .........

Brian d marge
13th June 2014, 18:39
Max on the TTP and the Asian pivot

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hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa

Stephen

blue rider
13th June 2014, 21:22
what to do with Iraq?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/12/black-flags-over-mosul/

oldrider
13th June 2014, 23:10
what to do with Iraq?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/12/black-flags-over-mosul/

Just get your head around how their cells will arise and when in NZ? .. (Thank's to Aunty Helen inviting them here in bulk!) ... Are we ready for that? :shifty:

Brian d marge
14th June 2014, 00:53
what to do with Iraq?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/12/black-flags-over-mosul/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA I see the new world orders all going to plan
and Im getting a TV for xmas

Spelt with the christian x in Xmas


Stephen

blue rider
14th June 2014, 12:38
Fun Reading

http://minerva.dtic.mil/doc/abstracts/Rasmussen_WhoNotTerrorist_FY13.pdf

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/12/pentagon-mass-civil-breakdown

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/13/uk-defence-fight-poor-activists-minorities-marxists-commies

because History is fun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution and for those that think that the french revolution is so yesteryear....the germans did it too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848_in_the_German_states

it serves to remember this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

fun times ahead.

Brian you don't need no stinkn TV....remember they will not televise the revolution, but we will all be part of it.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Sleeping_Dogs_(1977_film_poster).jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_(1977_film)

:)

Brian d marge
16th June 2014, 03:15
Xmas is comming , a 100 inch plasma will be mine ,,,,,\

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Happened in Manchester , will happen here

yeeehaaaa

Stephen

puddytat
19th June 2014, 12:27
Climate change & our Evolutionary weaknesses


http://blog.oup.com/2014/06/climate-change-evolutionary-weaknesses/

SPman
19th June 2014, 20:41
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mashman
19th June 2014, 22:03
.........................

Whitey's on The Moon, heh.

Brian d marge
19th June 2014, 23:08
The revolution will not be televised

it will be on facebook , twitter and bebo

Stephen

avgas
20th June 2014, 01:32
The revolution won't be a revolution. There will be no nirvana. There will be no deliverance.
There will be simple chaos as the pins are pulled from the base, the gears grind to a stop, the machine will pump its last puff.

Then people will be free - and pandemonium will ensue.
Go to high ground, the tide is not changing, a tsunami is coming. The collapse is near.

Akzle
20th June 2014, 06:00
The revolution won't be a revolution. There will be no nirvana.

awwwwww.
Whut 'm'i gun' do wit all deez bullets??

scrivy
20th June 2014, 09:04
There will be simple chaos as the pins are pulled from the base, the gears grind to a stop, the machine will pump its last puff.

Then people will be free - and pandemonium will ensue.
Go to high ground, the tide is not changing, a tsunami is coming. The collapse is near.

What church was that preached in???? :lol:

mashman
22nd June 2014, 11:56
I love the smell of fumes when getting my lunch, mmmmm (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24290598/wellington-electric-bus-supporters-meeting-today/)

mashman
24th June 2014, 12:56
'It fell on deaf ears': CIA and MI6 knew about ISIS assault in advance, failed to react (http://rt.com/usa/167912-ica-mi6-isis-iraq/)

Brian d marge
24th June 2014, 15:25
'It fell on deaf ears': CIA and MI6 knew about ISIS assault in advance, failed to react (http://rt.com/usa/167912-ica-mi6-isis-iraq/)
going according to plan then . . . remember these are the same people who could get planes in the air to defend their own whitehouse
every other day they had no problem except for when it mattered

evil fkrs
stephen

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Banditbandit
24th June 2014, 15:35
'It fell on deaf ears': CIA and MI6 knew about ISIS assault in advance, failed to react (http://rt.com/usa/167912-ica-mi6-isis-iraq/)

Of course they did .. the Great Satan is puling out of Iraq .. if ISIS takes over 'Merika has the perfect excuse to re-invade, use up a lot of munitions (spend more money) and lives (keeps unemployment down) and keep the 'Merikan economy afloat ...

bogan
24th June 2014, 15:37
Of course they did .. the Great Satan is puling out of Iraq .. if ISIS takes over 'Merika has the perfect excuse to re-invade, use up a lot of munitions (spend more money) and lives (keeps unemployment down) and keep the 'Merikan economy afloat ...

Wait, ISIS is a thing?

http://www.coalmarch.com/sites/default/files/Archer/ISIS-archer.jpg

Brian d marge
24th June 2014, 15:41
Syria is thegoal as it has an agreement with iran

Now thats fun

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mashman
24th June 2014, 20:28
going according to plan then . . . remember these are the same people who could get planes in the air to defend their own whitehouse
every other day they had no problem except for when it mattered

evil fkrs
stephen

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Of course they did .. the Great Satan is puling out of Iraq .. if ISIS takes over 'Merika has the perfect excuse to re-invade, use up a lot of munitions (spend more money) and lives (keeps unemployment down) and keep the 'Merikan economy afloat ...

I'd love to be able to say that that's all bullshit. Stupid World.

Brian d marge
24th June 2014, 20:46
Well it is bullshyt . . .
And the sooner it starts smelling the better
I m going for the 3d plasma

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Brian d marge
25th June 2014, 00:49
and it just get better and better

why can they just blame the christians , throw a few to the lions and get on with things

http://news.techeye.net/business/us-cops-been-lying-to-use-illegal-web-spying


Stephen

mashman
25th June 2014, 09:39
and it just get better and better

why can they just blame the christians , throw a few to the lions and get on with things

http://news.techeye.net/business/us-cops-been-lying-to-use-illegal-web-spying


Stephen

If they want you they'll come and get you... and that'll be legal and devoid of any morality.

Brian d marge
25th June 2014, 13:18
If they want you they'll come and get you... and that'll be legal and devoid of any morality.

Ahh yes Sherlock Holmeses greatest enemy ...

Stephen

Brian d marge
25th June 2014, 15:29
More of ur actual evil shit ,,,,,

not smelling as rank as it could be ....give it time


http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10198772/Fears-raised-over-secret-trade-talks

Stephen

mashman
25th June 2014, 17:46
More of ur actual evil shit ,,,,,

not smelling as rank as it could be ....give it time


http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10198772/Fears-raised-over-secret-trade-talks

Stephen

They believe they have our best interests at heart. I'll go with misguided given the limitations in place :shifty:.

Brian d marge
25th June 2014, 19:17
They believe they have our best interests at heart. I'll go with misguided given the limitations in place :shifty:.

If they had my best interest at heart , I wouldn't be typing this

I would be in bed with 2 , very cheap Chinese hookers


Stephen

Ill settle for an up market new zealand one if there arent any cheap Chinese ones available

mashman
25th June 2014, 21:36
If they had my best interest at heart , I wouldn't be typing this

I would be in bed with 2 , very cheap Chinese hookers


Stephen

Ill settle for an up market new zealand one if there arent any cheap Chinese ones available

Oh they do, they give you tax breaks and make the economy whizz along unhindered and along a path smoother than a newly brazillianed thing that gets brazillians.

scrivy
26th June 2014, 08:38
I would be in bed with 2 , very cheap Chinese hookers



Under the TISA, they will be cheaper.... apparantely...... :facepalm:

BoristheBiter
26th June 2014, 10:15
If they had my best interest at heart , I wouldn't be typing this

I would be in bed with 2 , very cheap Chinese hookers


Stephen

Ill settle for an up market new zealand one if there arent any cheap Chinese ones available

See that's the problem.
If they have your best interests at heart then they won't have mine and i care more about mine then yours just as you care more about yours than mine.

So if anyone is getting cheap chinese hookers its...................... no you can have them
http://www.waleg.com/images/woman-horns.jpg

unstuck
26th June 2014, 10:40
See that's the problem.
If they have your best interests at heart then they won't have mine and i care more about mine then yours just as you care more about mine.

So if anyone is getting cheap chinese hookers its...................... no you can have them


Horny looking old girl.:devil2:

oldrider
26th June 2014, 11:08
Horny looking old girl.:devil2:

Old adage springs to mind ... "You don't look at the mantelpiece when you are stoking the fire" ... but thats probably pushing it a bit much! :facepalm:

For those who are too young to know what a mantelpiece is : http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mantelpiece

scrivy
26th June 2014, 13:17
Horny looking old girl.:devil2:

A horn to hang onto, and no teeth..... "dream girl" comes to mind..... :sick:

Brian d marge
26th June 2014, 14:15
[QUOTE=BoristheBiter;1130738415]See that's the problem.
If they have your best interests at heart then they won't have mine and i care more about mine then yours just as you care more about yours than mine.

So if anyone is getting cheap chinese hookers its...................... no you can have them
/QUOTE]

Been there done that ......

anything cheaper? I will be using tax payers money !

Stephen

BoristheBiter
26th June 2014, 14:48
[QUOTE=BoristheBiter;1130738415]See that's the problem.
If they have your best interests at heart then they won't have mine and i care more about mine then yours just as you care more about yours than mine.

So if anyone is getting cheap chinese hookers its...................... no you can have them
/QUOTE]

Been there done that ......

anything cheaper? I will be using tax payers money !

Stephen

Really? i wouldn't be telling anyone.:no:

Brian d marge
28th June 2014, 13:52
Itchy nuts day

so lets have some TREWS

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Stephen

mashman
28th June 2014, 14:41
Itchy nuts day

so lets have some TREWS

Stephen

Saw that yesterday... a Resource Based Economy was mentioned and was then summarily bastardised with talk of money. Hope Jacques has the tm, patent, copyright, ip etc... to Resource Based Economy.

But Max is a very entertaining watch and offers a little too much truth sometimes ;)

Brian d marge
28th June 2014, 16:14
Saw that yesterday... a Resource Based Economy was mentioned and was then summarily bastardised with talk of money. Hope Jacques has the tm, patent, copyright, ip etc... to Resource Based Economy.

But Max is a very entertaining watch and offers a little too much truth sometimes ;)
Jacques does not


But he has a samick sage and lots and lots of pointy things


Jacques from the wine shop

mashman
28th June 2014, 16:17
Jacques does not


But he has a samick sage and lots and lots of pointy things


Jacques from the wine shop

Booze 'n' Bows. Great name for a shop.

SPman
29th June 2014, 12:36
An enlightened Plutocrats view of things...!

The Pitchforks are Coming

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html?hp=r6#.U69fELHAC-c

Brian d marge
29th June 2014, 13:42
An enlightened Plutocrats view of things...!

The Pitchforks are Coming

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html?hp=r6#.U69fELHAC-c

The Gini for America is about 0.44 same or slightly less than Rome when it fell , France reached a Gini of 0.62 before the heads started to roll ... NZ is about 0.33 ...and has a large tolerance to pain...

Stephen

ps the food index is hovering about 190 , 210 is when the fun starts ...( NZ uses a really strange one , I think u just divide by 1000 to get the international one )

avgas
29th June 2014, 14:30
Wait, ISIS is a thing?
They are American....
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oldrider
29th June 2014, 14:40
An enlightened Plutocrats view of things...!

The Pitchforks are Coming

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html?hp=r6#.U69fELHAC-c

True!

[quote] The most ironic thing about rising inequality is how completely unnecessary and self-defeating it is. If we do something about it, if we adjust our policies in the way that, say, Franklin D. Roosevelt did during the Great Depression—so that we help the 99 percent and preempt the revolutionaries and crazies, the ones with the pitchforks—that will be the best thing possible for us rich folks, too. It’s not just that we’ll escape with our lives; it’s that we’ll most certainly get even richer.

Rothchild quote: "Give me control of the finances of the world I care not who makes the laws" ... they have that control!

The world financial system controllers know all of this (and what to do about it) but their agenda and that of the the rest of the world are not aligned! :no:

oneofsix
29th June 2014, 14:54
An enlightened Plutocrats view of things...!

The Pitchforks are Coming

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html?hp=r6#.U69fELHAC-c

been saying some of those things for ages on this site even. The great push back to the feudal age. Even in the feudal age they had the pitch fork uprisings. The message is clear, when the uprising occurs in the USA the smart NZers will be ready to greet the fleeing 0.1%ers on the runways, or preferably before they even land. :devil2:

Brian d marge
29th June 2014, 15:57
been saying some of those things for ages on this site even. The great push back to the feudal age. Even in the feudal age they had the pitch fork uprisings. The message is clear, when the uprising occurs in the USA the smart NZers will be ready to greet the fleeing 0.1%ers on the runways, or preferably before they even land. :devil2:

here they come ....

298438

yeeehaaaaaa

Stephen

but all I want is .....298439


Dukla Prague Away Kit

Ocean1
29th June 2014, 17:00
An enlightened Plutocrats view of things...!

The Pitchforks are Coming

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html?hp=r6#.U69fELHAC-c

Aye. The natural consequence of paying people whether they work or not.

Brian d marge
29th June 2014, 18:04
Aye. The natural consequence of paying people whether they work or not.
Oh the explaination of this is going to be
worth waiting for

mashman
29th June 2014, 18:24
An enlightened Plutocrats view of things...!

The Pitchforks are Coming

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html?hp=r6#.U69fELHAC-c

Sensible man.

mashman
29th June 2014, 18:25
Aye. The natural consequence of paying people

Fixed fo ya.

Brian d marge
29th June 2014, 18:50
Some fella set himself on fire in shinjuku



http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/29/qe8y9azy.jpg

Brian d marge
29th June 2014, 21:22
before

298457


After.....


298458


I dont want to be apart of a society that allows people to have this freedom ( note japanese have a different view of death than western people ) BUT the cause/ reason is the same ...

Stephen

oldrider
29th June 2014, 22:12
I dont want to be apart of a society that allows people to have this freedom ... Stephen

Heard that there are a few vacancies over in North Korea ... maybe you could snap one of them up then! :rolleyes:

Brian d marge
29th June 2014, 22:16
Heard that there are a few vacancies over in North Korea ... maybe you could snap one of them up then! :rolleyes:
Terrible haircuts mind you seeing as we all aint that different and having shagged a few south koreans , . . I could warm to the north

mashman
29th June 2014, 22:45
I dont want to be apart of a society that allows people to have this freedom ( note japanese have a different view of death than western people ) BUT the cause/ reason is the same ...

Stephen

I hope he had a celebratory dance first.

Brian d marge
29th June 2014, 23:15
I hope he had a celebratory dance first.

yeah right
the japanese police dont give a shit ( a beniefit of corruption ) they waited , took photos then acted important

meanwhile everyone else did nothing

Stephen

now im going to get hell drunk so please dont post any sensible ideas untill wednesday

Stephen

oldrider
29th June 2014, 23:30
Terrible haircuts mind you seeing as we all aint that different and having shagged a few south koreans , . . I could warm to the north

Well you can't say he didn't warm to Japan ... but I don't spose thats what you have in mind for warming to North Korea! :no: Enjoy your haircut! :corn:

Brian d marge
30th June 2014, 05:13
Well you can't say he didn't warm to Japan ... but I don't spose thats what you have in mind for warming to North Korea! :no: Enjoy your haircut! :corn:
3litres of unleaded is to warm for me

mashman
30th June 2014, 10:08
yeah right
the japanese police dont give a shit ( a beniefit of corruption ) they waited , took photos then acted important

meanwhile everyone else did nothing

Stephen

now im going to get hell drunk so please dont post any sensible ideas untill wednesday

Stephen

Turns out he's not happy about Japan's constitutional u-turn. (http://rt.com/news/169216-japan-self-immolate-protest/)

Enjoy drunken stupor mode.

bogan
30th June 2014, 10:16
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/people_are_stupid.png

mashman
1st July 2014, 13:12
No 'silver bullet' to solve poverty in NZ (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/no-silver-bullet-solve-poverty-202118053.html)

Bullshit... there's no financial silver bullet is all. Doesn't mean there's no silver bullet, but then again, what would one expect from fucktards who don't understand the cause of poverty. It'll be those useless cunts that say things like, business is required in order to provide for people... which is pretty fuckin stupid given that it's people that start businesses in the first place. Fuckin idiots.

Ocean1
1st July 2014, 14:22
what would one expect from fucktards who don't understand the cause of poverty.

I'd expect better to be honest.

The cause of poverty is low personal performance. And no amount of money will ever change it.

Banditbandit
1st July 2014, 15:40
I'd expect better to be honest.

The cause of poverty is low personal performance. And no amount of money will ever change it.

:killingme :clap: :laugh: :rofl:

That's a really useful comment ..

mashman
1st July 2014, 19:02
I'd expect better to be honest.

The cause of poverty is low personal performance. And no amount of money will ever change it.

I'd rather they sorted it once and for all.

You're right, no amount of money will change that... so let's use no amount of money as you said it yourself, no amount of money will change that.

Ocean1
1st July 2014, 19:40
I'd rather they sorted it once and for all.

You're right, no amount of money will change that... so let's use no amount of money as you said it yourself, no amount of money will change that.

You can use hammers if you like.

Won't make a blind bit of difference, some people simply don't produce as much as they consume.

mashman
1st July 2014, 19:53
You can use hammers if you like.

Won't make a blind bit of difference, some people simply don't produce as much as they consume.

Cool. I'll make sure they're nice and expensive. Fortunately other things would be cheaper, ya know, to offset the economic valuation of the hammer.

Why does it matter whether a financial system is used or not then? If they're always going to be there, then why live with a system that penalises everyone for the failings of a few?

mashman
1st July 2014, 20:00
Yup, it's still going on (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/24358674/israel-bombs-gaza-after-teens-found-dead/#)... stupidity reigns.

Brian d marge
1st July 2014, 20:11
Yup, it's still going on (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/24358674/israel-bombs-gaza-after-teens-found-dead/#)... stupidity reigns.
Just read that

Also on the twitter feed there was a comment

When will american military experts help ukraine

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-30/obama-lied-us-sending-300-additional-troops-iraq-including-detachment-helicopters-an


Oh well the aquaponic lettuce is doing well

mashman
1st July 2014, 20:20
Just read that

Also on the twitter feed there was a comment

When will american military experts help ukraine

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-30/obama-lied-us-sending-300-additional-troops-iraq-including-detachment-helicopters-an


Oh well the aquaponic lettuce is doing well

Gotta stay on plan man.

The Lego Movie comes out tomorrow. I might throw on the 3D glasses and have a giggle.

Ocean1
1st July 2014, 20:22
Cool. I'll make sure they're nice and expensive. Fortunately other things would be cheaper, ya know, to offset the economic valuation of the hammer.

Why does it matter whether a financial system is used or not then? If they're always going to be there, then why live with a system that penalises everyone for the failings of a few?



Because without a financial system you have no way of trading anything unless by some remarkable coincidence you happen upon someone with shit you want who wants your bag of hammers. In quantities you both find acceptable. You've got no way of measuring the market value of anything and no way of saving anything.

A situation common with some human societies in the stone age, and none since.

Work it out yourself.

mashman
1st July 2014, 20:40
Because without a financial system you have no way of trading anything unless by some remarkable coincidence you happen upon someone with shit you want who wants your bag of hammers. In quantities you both find acceptable. You've got no way of measuring the market value of anything and no way of saving anything.

A situation common with some human societies in the stone age, and none since.

Work it out yourself.

Of course there's a way of trading everything without a financial system. It often happens in some circles when people hand stuff on. Why make that which is unnecessary? Why "employ" people in the pursuit of making that which is unnecessary? Why "employ" people in jobs that are unrequired? Why waste energy and materials on that which is unnecessary? The market will free itself and bound to a set of requirements requested by society... anything after that is for toys... preferably toys that are produced with components that can be reused. Beats the shit out of the opposite of any of those things that your financial system requires in order to function.

You're a fossil.

I did. Your turn.

Banditbandit
2nd July 2014, 08:54
You can use hammers if you like.

Won't make a blind bit of difference, some people simply don't produce as much as they consume.

While I don't disagree that some people are like that, that is not the major cause of poverty and blaming individuals for structural issues in society leads nowhere ..

mashman
3rd July 2014, 11:19
Watch out all you farcebook users (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24345786/facebook-manipulated-user-emotions/)... they're out to getcha.

Scuba_Steve
3rd July 2014, 12:52
Watch out all you farcebook users (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24345786/facebook-manipulated-user-emotions/)... they're out to getcha.

Yep... Facebook is a good look at how stupid people are

Ocean1
3rd July 2014, 17:02
While I don't disagree that some people are like that, that is not the major cause of poverty and blaming individuals for structural issues in society leads nowhere ..

I'm not. I'm blaming socialist govt policy for making 55% of Kiwis consume more than they produce.

If you genuinely wanted to help the couple of percent that need it then you wouldn't be spending that much buying votes from perfectly well remunerated Kiwis.

blue rider
3rd July 2014, 20:07
bla bla bla bla bla

and this is a fun read

:)

http://www.salon.com/2010/12/06/america_collapse_2025/

Brian d marge
4th July 2014, 02:32
I read this story once ...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Draper_Herbert_James_Mourning_for_Icarus.jpg/640px-Draper_Herbert_James_Mourning_for_Icarus.jpg



and I read it again here....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-28134342


Stephen


get ready to go shopping !

mashman
4th July 2014, 08:25
bla bla bla bla bla

and this is a fun read

:)

http://www.salon.com/2010/12/06/america_collapse_2025/

You could make a damned fine movie out of that... or perhaps we should wait for the real thing :laugh:.

scrivy
4th July 2014, 11:28
Errr...... so it's going to be harder to fly from Europe to the US now because of the ISIS bullshit and terrorists returning with valid passport/visas etc...... they're gunna blow shit up apparantely......

I know, why not just fly into Mexico..... the US lets them fuckers in for nothing, with no background checks...... that'll solve the terrorists dilemma...... :shifty:

"If in doubt - always use the backdoor......." - to use a quote from Gordie...

Brian d marge
4th July 2014, 14:32
Tin hats everyone ...Tin Hats ...got this from the internet so its true ......

http://www.moonmontchronicle.com/supreme-court-rules-jcpenney-allowed-to-sacrifice-employees-to-appease-cthulhu.html


Stephen

Akzle
4th July 2014, 15:10
You could make a damned fine movie out of that... or perhaps we should wait for the real thing :laugh:.

ive got a handycam....

Brian d marge
5th July 2014, 01:41
Tally sticks allowed England to be an empire ....they work , did woork for 700 years

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I might start taking them as payment

Stephen

Ocean1
5th July 2014, 10:15
Tally sticks allowed England to be an empire ....they work , did woork for 700 years

Excellent idea. Only, we could make them out of plastic, and make a wee magnetic strip on them to keep tally.

The English only used tally sticks because the romans had gone, leaving them with insufficient coinage to pay tax. They serve the same function as cash, to record debt. And in fact a credit card serves it even more exactly in recording both creditor and debtor identities.

mashman
5th July 2014, 12:43
Tally sticks allowed England to be an empire ....they work , did woork for 700 years

Stephen

They worked until they couldn't any more. Sound familiar? All monetary systems fail. It is only ever a matter of time. And given the added bonus side effect of having an infrastructure built to budget, I'd say we've been seriously short changing ourselves ;)

mashman
5th July 2014, 12:45
Excellent idea. Only, we could make them out of plastic, and make a wee magnetic strip on them to keep tally.

The English only used tally sticks because the romans had gone, leaving them with insufficient coinage to pay tax. They serve the same function as cash, to record debt. And in fact a credit card serves it even more exactly in recording both creditor and debtor identities.

Another currency. We're saved.

Brian d marge
5th July 2014, 13:58
Excellent idea. Only, we could make them out of plastic, and make a wee magnetic strip on them to keep tally.

The English only used tally sticks because the romans had gone, leaving them with insufficient coinage to pay tax. They serve the same function as cash, to record debt. And in fact a credit card serves it even more exactly in recording both creditor and debtor identities.


it would have to be interest free kinda like a bank debt card and ya couldnt make em out of plastic as the security wouldnt be strong enough

tally sticks ( were split and wood splits differently each time !

Stephen

700 year they worked for ,,,then were the cause of westminster burning down ...idiots ,,,,

Ocean1
5th July 2014, 14:24
Another currency. We're saved.

Nah, about as different as changing your ASB card to an ANZ card.

However, it did prompt me to have a wee look for the first recorded use of tally sticks. Definitely prehistoric.

And Steven's mate Henry the 1st implemented them to keep track of taxes, soon becoming general currency.

Aaaannnd in the late 1600's the first shares in the Bank of England were purchased with tally sticks, :niceone: The bank immediately began lending out several times more money than it had received: Fractional reserve banking. In the 17th century. Three and a half centuries before Bretton Woods.







Don't tell Steven, he'd be devastated.

mashman
5th July 2014, 16:10
Nah, about as different as changing your ASB card to an ANZ card.

However, it did prompt me to have a wee look for the first recorded use of tally sticks. Definitely prehistoric.

And Steven's mate Henry the 1st implemented them to keep track of taxes, soon becoming general currency.

Aaaannnd in the late 1600's the first shares in the Bank of England were purchased with tally sticks, :niceone: The bank immediately began lending out several times more money than it had received: Fractional reserve banking. In the 17th century. Three and a half centuries before Bretton Woods.

Don't tell Steven, he'd be devastated.

lol... a bank is a bank is a bank.

Brian d marge
5th July 2014, 16:19
Nah, about as different as changing your ASB card to an ANZ card.

However, it did prompt me to have a wee look for the first recorded use of tally sticks. Definitely prehistoric.

And Steven's mate Henry the 1st implemented them to keep track of taxes, soon becoming general currency.

Aaaannnd in the late 1600's the first shares in the Bank of England were purchased with tally sticks, :niceone: The bank immediately began lending out several times more money than it had received: Fractional reserve banking. In the 17th century. Three and a half centuries before Bretton Woods.







Don't tell Steven, he'd be devastated.

its how they got rid of them that made me laugh in fact Turner painted a picture of the event
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Remember only burn money with the supervision of an adult

Can u explain how a non debt based currency can be debased by making more of it.

not taking the piss here ,,,serious question ,,,if the tally stick is a record of a transaction then having more just makes people wealthy and as there is no inflation or interest the value will remain

least thats how I see it

Stephen

Ocean1
5th July 2014, 18:47
Can u explain how a non debt based currency can be debased by making more of it.

not taking the piss here ,,,serious question ,,,if the tally stick is a record of a transaction then having more just makes people wealthy and as there is no inflation or interest the value will remain

least thats how I see it

Stephen

Don't think there's any such thing as a non debt/credit based currency. It's their primary function, to represent assets, borrowed or loaned. A tally stick is no different to a coin in that regard.

And I read fookin ages ago that it was fairly common for monarchs to sell tally sticks at a discount to fund pet projects, usually to do with neighbourhood disputes.

Which can only have caused inflation, because it sure as fuck didn't make anyone wealthy all of a sudden. So no, tally sticks are no less prone to inflation than any other currency.

oldrider
5th July 2014, 19:03
Take 4 minutes out of your day and watch this clip: http://www.positivemoney.org/

bogan
5th July 2014, 19:36
Take 4 minutes out of your day and watch this clip: http://www.positivemoney.org/

Sounds like a thing. Worth a watch anyway.

Brian d marge
5th July 2014, 20:41
A quick history

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

Stephen

Akzle
5th July 2014, 20:56
A quick history

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

Stephen

ive been saying this shit for days.
Fucken jews.

oldrider
5th July 2014, 21:08
A quick history

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

Stephen

True and Social Credit has been battling them for years now it looks like this UK driven "Positive Money" are gearing up modern comunications to really get on top of it!

They have a NZ branch too "Positive Money NZ" good use of modern media gets the message out clear and concise I am looking hard at them!

All political parties combined should get right in behind this if they want to succeed with any of their individual party policies!

Ocean1
5th July 2014, 21:46
A quick history

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

Stephen

You can't use logic to talk a man out of a position that he didn't use logic to get himself into. Anon.

Brian d marge
5th July 2014, 22:13
You can't use logic to talk a man out of a position that he didn't use logic to get himself into. Anon.
Anon has never met my wife

Stephen

mashman
5th July 2014, 23:51
Anon has never met my wife

Stephen

I have, but it seems that she hasn't gotten over it yet... my apologies :D

Brian d marge
6th July 2014, 11:30
I have, but it seems that she hasn't gotten over it yet... my apologies :D

Doctor says he can come home next week

Stehen

Brian d marge
6th July 2014, 23:45
titties ......hubba hubba

http://<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/RcHRaxN-u5U" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe> (http://<iframe width=&quot;560&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;//www.youtube.com/embed/RcHRaxN-u5U&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allowfullscreen></iframe>)

sod the books sorry about baldy.....

Stephen

mashman
8th July 2014, 07:50
Relationship fraud changes come into force (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/relationship-fraud-changes-come-force-001606961.html)... ah yes, hammer to crack nut.

unstuck
8th July 2014, 08:35
http://www.cotygonzales.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fuck-fox-news.jpg

avgas
8th July 2014, 08:56
http://www.cotygonzales.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fuck-fox-news.jpg
This just in. Me in you baby.
I will even let her keep wearing the glasses.

Banditbandit
8th July 2014, 09:20
This just in. Me in you baby.
I will even let her keep wearing the glasses.

Stand in line behind Rolf (oh .. sorry, he was given a five year ban recently) ..

Brian d marge
10th July 2014, 01:08
This has to go in stupid world ,......

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-09/china-u-s-try-to-minimize-tensions-as-talks-begin-in-beijing.html


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How high should we jump ....

Stephen

Brian d marge
10th July 2014, 01:47
ok its american , ie we dont have health care costs as they do ....

but a clear explaination of how and why things are different today than in the good old days



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A

Stephen

unstuck
10th July 2014, 05:26
ARISE....:devil2:


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mashman
10th July 2014, 09:17
UK examine tax avoidance scheme involving celebrities (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-examine-tax-avoidance-scheme-202704475--spt.html)... bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa.

Ocean1
10th July 2014, 09:32
UK examine tax avoidance scheme involving celebrities (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-examine-tax-avoidance-scheme-202704475--spt.html)... bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa.

But you don't want money.

And as they're not in pokey it must be legal.

Not to mention of fuck all value compared to the widespread rort of avoiding tax by failing to earn fuck all and bludging off the state. Them's the pricks you need to ping.

Banditbandit
10th July 2014, 09:39
But you don't want money.

And as they're not in pokey it must be legal.

Not to mention of fuck all value compared to the widespread rort of avoiding tax by failing to earn fuck all and bludging off the state. Them's the pricks you need to ping.

51% (or maybe 52%) of our social welfare budget goes to old age pensioners .. those bludgers are scooping out more taxpayer money than thesolo mothers, unemployed and other beneficiaries put together.

OUTLAW OLD AGE!!!!

Ocean1
10th July 2014, 09:54
OUTLAW OLD AGE!!!!

Well, y'know, if the old bastards hadn't have worked hard enough to produce the tax to fund their retirement they probably wouldn't be as FUCKING OLD AS THEY ARE!!!

Oscar
10th July 2014, 10:03
51% (or maybe 52%) of our social welfare budget goes to old age pensioners .. those bludgers are scooping out more taxpayer money than thesolo mothers, unemployed and other beneficiaries put together.

OUTLAW OLD AGE!!!!

You are forgeting about Working For Families, which is disguised welfare.

Banditbandit
10th July 2014, 10:08
You are forgeting about Working For Families, which is disguised welfare.

No - that does not come out of the social welfare budget. Yes, adding that in probably brings up the total "welfare" spend and reduces the percentage which goes to old people ...

Banditbandit
10th July 2014, 10:09
Well, y'know, if the old bastards hadn't have worked hard enough to produce the tax to fund their retirement they probably wouldn't be as FUCKING OLD AS THEY ARE!!!

So you are suggesting that working people live longer than beneficiaries? That should save us a lot of money on old age pensions then ...

mashman
10th July 2014, 10:55
But you don't want money.

And as they're not in pokey it must be legal.

Not to mention of fuck all value compared to the widespread rort of avoiding tax by failing to earn fuck all and bludging off the state. Them's the pricks you need to ping.

Try to remember that.

Hence why they're looking at it.

You could wipe out every single Ocean labelled bludger and you'd still have the same problems coz there'd be noone to buy the shit that's produced :facepalm:. It's called extrapolation. Try it.

Ocean1
10th July 2014, 11:56
You could wipe out every single Ocean labelled bludger and you'd still have the same problems coz there'd be noone to buy the shit that's produced :facepalm:. It's called extrapolation. Try it.

Nah, that's called bullshit.

No bludgers means there'd be far less money taken from those that earned it, who would then be in a much better position to buy all that shit you're worried about.

No matter how you spin it the world isn't a better place with bludgers in it.

Ocean1
10th July 2014, 12:04
No - that does not come out of the social welfare budget. Yes, adding that in probably brings up the total "welfare" spend and reduces the percentage which goes to old people ...

Old people are in fucking good company, supposedly 55% of New Zealand households are net tax recipients, they recieve more in benefits than they produce in tax.

In the UK it's 60%.

Now how does that affect who's fucking who and who's paying?

mashman
10th July 2014, 12:29
Nah, that's called bullshit.

No bludgers means there'd be far less money taken from those that earned it, who would then be in a much better position to buy all that shit you're worried about.

No matter how you spin it the world isn't a better place with bludgers in it.

So what are you going to do with all of these people who currently work that would be out of a job because the bludgers of the world are dead?

Catch 22 bro. With all of that money flying around, who's going to buy the cheap shit? If there's no cheap shit buying, then peeps will be out of a job thereby creating a new group of bludgers. Tis an economic fact.

I didn't say it was.

Brian d marge
10th July 2014, 12:42
UK examine tax avoidance scheme involving celebrities (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-examine-tax-avoidance-scheme-202704475--spt.html)... bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa.

On the same page ....

https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/tasman-mill-still-not-making-money-for-norway-s-norske-skog-235658248.html

Doesnt like the cost of the electricity here ...hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa



Stephen

Ocean1
10th July 2014, 12:50
So what are you going to do with all of these people who currently work that would be out of a job because the bludgers of the world are dead?

You mean the same ones that would be working to supply those that made the money in the first place?



Catch 22 bro. With all of that money flying around, who's going to buy the cheap shit? If there's no cheap shit buying, then peeps will be out of a job thereby creating a new group of bludgers. Tis an economic fact.

Fact eh? Are you really that fucking stupid that you believe those who don't actually produce anything anyone else wants actually produce something someone else wants?

mashman
10th July 2014, 13:24
On the same page ....

https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/tasman-mill-still-not-making-money-for-norway-s-norske-skog-235658248.html

Doesnt like the cost of the electricity here ...hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

Stephen

:killingme can't make the money they used to and still want to make, so fuck off to pastures new... why doesn't that surprise me.


You mean the same ones that would be working to supply those that made the money in the first place?

Fact eh? Are you really that fucking stupid that you believe those who don't actually produce anything anyone else wants actually produce something someone else wants?

Why would they be working if there customer base is dead? I fail to see who they're going to sell their shite to.

Of course not... that's why I'm asking you what you're going to do with the newly unemployed after their customer base is dead.

Brian d marge
10th July 2014, 14:01
http://<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/f519_LGjhCA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> (http://<iframe width=&quot;560&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;//www.youtube.com/embed/f519_LGjhCA&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allowfullscreen></iframe>)


A very good watch

she talks about credit .......

Stephen

SPman
10th July 2014, 14:08
You are forgeting about Working For Families, which is disguised welfare...and which, if people were getting decent wages, wouldn't be necessary.

Oscar
10th July 2014, 14:45
..and which, if people were getting decent wages, wouldn't be necessary.

And equally wouldn't needed if people weren't paying so much tax.

Ocean1
10th July 2014, 15:49
..and which, if people were getting decent wages, wouldn't be necessary.

Nevermind, if you raise the minimum wage high enough then all those wicked employers will have to pay teh hard working employees what they're worth. :rolleyes:


And equally wouldn't needed if people weren't paying so much tax.

Yeah, it really is absurd when you look at how much they have to give back to middle income families in order to compensate them for pretty much exactly what they taxed them for in the first place.

Banditbandit
10th July 2014, 16:32
Yeah, it really is absurd when you look at how much they have to give back to middle income families in order to compensate them for pretty much exactly what they taxed them for in the first place.


Yeah - that's because people like you scream if they tax the rich to support the poor - so they tax everyone and refund money to the poor ... If we had better differential tax rates we would not need working for families .. but then you'd all scream about he high differential tax rates ...

And if we pay less taxes do we:

A Put less into the Health system
B Put less into the Police?
C Put less into Defense (attack)?
D Put less into Education?
E Put less into Auckland roads? (I'd vote for this one).
F Borrow money overseas to pay for all of the above?

oldrider
10th July 2014, 16:51
51% (or maybe 52%) of our social welfare budget goes to old age pensioners .. those bludgers are scooping out more taxpayer money than thesolo mothers, unemployed and other beneficiaries put together.

OUTLAW OLD AGE!!!!

Old TV programe ... "City of Domes"! ... Me and my missus would be long gone on that programe! :weep: . :bye:

Banditbandit
10th July 2014, 16:53
Logan's Run .. and I'd be long gone too ..

mashman
10th July 2014, 20:41
Yeah - that's because people like you scream if they tax the rich to support the poor - so they tax everyone and refund money to the poor ... If we had better differential tax rates we would not need working for families .. but then you'd all scream about he high differential tax rates ...

And if we pay less taxes do we:

A Put less into the Health system
B Put less into the Police?
C Put less into Defense (attack)?
D Put less into Education?
E Put less into Auckland roads? (I'd vote for this one).
F Borrow money overseas to pay for all of the above?

An R.B.E. is much easier... it can exist using the same people and the same system and everything too ;).

Brian d marge
10th July 2014, 20:53
Old TV programe ... "City of Domes"! ... Me and my missus would be long gone on that programe! :weep: . :bye:
Hey thats my job to post that video

I protest

Ocean1
10th July 2014, 22:41
Yeah - that's because people like you scream if they tax the rich to support the poor - so they tax everyone and refund money to the poor ...

That they don't do. Fuck me even the extreme left UN doesn't attempt to present the whole lower 55% income earners as poor.

And I wouldn't mind paying more tax than I currently do, if it benefited everyone. Like most infrastructure. Like most health services. And not even slightly like "working" for families.

And who knows, if you didn't subsidise middle income earners in NZ to the tune of somewhat more than they pay in tax then you might be able to afford to help the actual poor and the actual sick when they actually need it.

blue rider
11th July 2014, 08:24
stuff people are writing about
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy

Brian d marge
11th July 2014, 18:24
If kiwi farmers adopted organic permaculture...

resistant to change always hampers progress

http://online.wsj.com/articles/in-japan-idled-electronics-factories-find-new-life-in-farming-1404700202

Quite a few old factories are being converted to grow vegetables .....YEAR round !!!

Stephen

Brian d marge
11th July 2014, 20:24
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but you will have to pay for that air..........


http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-28227198


fkin ell

Stephen

blue rider
11th July 2014, 21:19
change US to NZ ....it works

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2014/07/07/140707ta_talk_surowiecki

mashman
12th July 2014, 14:23
change US to NZ ....it works

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2014/07/07/140707ta_talk_surowiecki

I nearly wee'd.

blue rider
12th July 2014, 15:10
and now a word to the faithful

:)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/10/cynk-technology-stock_n_5573862.html?ir=Business

Brian d marge
12th July 2014, 16:10
Twitters market valuation and how much profit has it made . . . . The dow heading towards 20k with all this zero interest money behind it . . . . . . . Its going to hurt thats all i will say

Brian d marge
12th July 2014, 23:53
and the stock market aint being manipulated with zero interest money


http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28270266


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSeVM1AckNCXpVmBO1cc6lRs3V-Kph_UrfhOK1hMl19NCke2c0


Stephen

SPman
13th July 2014, 13:22
The fact that National still appears to be riding high in political polls speaks more for a population heavily sedated by trivia and superficial “news” reporting, and for mind-numbingly inane mass-entertainment – rather than any actual success.

..............

Brian d marge
13th July 2014, 13:42
But sharp 7 has a new format

blue rider
13th July 2014, 16:50
water
who needs it

and what to do about it

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/10257383/Use-of-water-still-seriously-unsustainable

Akzle
13th July 2014, 19:51
water
who needs it

and what to do about it

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/10257383/Use-of-water-still-seriously-unsustainable

no fucken way... something on stuff.... that isn't shit.

Brian d marge
13th July 2014, 23:33
Salarymen relaxing in their free time ......my friend

THx1138 is the one with the yellow tie

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oldrider
14th July 2014, 13:47
Salarymen relaxing in their free time ......my friend THx1138 is the one with the yellow tie

Yes he stood out ... nice pair of shoes too! ... I like quality and precision thats why I prefer to buy Japanese! :niceone:

Ocean1
14th July 2014, 18:28
The fact that National still appears to be riding high in political polls speaks more for a population heavily sedated by trivia and superficial “news” reporting, and for mind-numbingly inane mass-entertainment – rather than any actual success.

Aye, whenever a record number of people disagree with you they're always wrong. :laugh:

Brian d marge
14th July 2014, 19:15
Aye, whenever a record number of people disagree with you they're always wrong. :laugh:
You always disagree with me

Brian d marge
14th July 2014, 19:25
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/nusa9yvy.jpg


The result of voting for the imf austerity program as instituted by national and labour , . . .and supported by the maori party

oldrider
14th July 2014, 20:17
SPman:[Quote]The fact that National still appears to be riding high in political polls speaks more for a population heavily sedated by trivia and superficial “news” reporting, and for mind-numbingly inane mass-entertainment – rather than any actual success.[Quote]

True! :niceone:

But don't worry the media will soon crank up there biased loading of political reports that will indicate a close race and everything will change as the election approachs!

They do it every time and the electorate falls for it every time ... it's their rice bowl to have things hanging on a knife edge! Facts have nothing to do with it! :oi-grr:

Democracy and government New Zealand style! ... Yeah right! :wacko: Same old same old, everybody wins except the voter! :brick:

blue rider
15th July 2014, 20:36
http://monthlyreview.org/2014/07/01/surveillance-capitalism/

:devil2:

Brian d marge
16th July 2014, 01:44
out brothers brothers OUT

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Brother Stephen

mashman
16th July 2014, 07:35
Emerging nations plan their own World Bank, IMF (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/emerging-nations-plan-own-world-191407045.html)... so all is not lost, whew. All hail the BRICS bank. Then again, bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa, do we really believe that a new bank printing new money out of existing thin air is really going to solve anything? Sheesh, stoopid hoomans.

blue rider
16th July 2014, 08:31
employment history

interesting series on DK

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/15/1314085/-Hellraisers-Journal-Shrunken-children-without-light-in-their-eyes-and-without-song-on-their-lips

SPman
16th July 2014, 12:53
Last year, the Ministry for the Environment reported that 61% of New Zealand's rivers were unsafe for swimming (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8978223/Many-NZ-rivers-unsafe-for-swimming). National's response? Shut down the monitoring program (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1407/S00290/goverment-drops-recreational-river-reporting.htm):


This isn't the first time they've done this. They didn't want to hear about the social consequences of their government, so they shitcanned the Social Report (http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2011/11/burying-evidence.html). And they dumped comprehensive environmental reporting (http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2012/10/censoring-environment.html) before reviving it in a crippled form, in order to censor bad news about the environment. Like a bad boss, their response to bad news is "I don't want to know", rather than "lets fix this".

The government that's more popular than god (if certain people are to be believed). Says something about the believers........?

puddytat
16th July 2014, 19:37
Says something about the believers........?

Sure does....

If its not about them, then they're not interested.

puddytat
16th July 2014, 19:49
Corporate Cunts.....

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/ban-neonicotinoids-another-silent-spring-pesticide-moratorium

Ocean1
16th July 2014, 20:52
They didn't want to hear about the social consequences of their government, so they shitcanned the Social Report (http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2011/11/burying-evidence.html). And they dumped comprehensive environmental reporting (http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2012/10/censoring-environment.html) before reviving it in a crippled form, in order to censor bad news about the environment. Like a bad boss, their response to bad news is "I don't want to know", rather than "lets fix this".

The government that's more popular than god (if certain people are to be believed). Says something about the believers........?

Believers in what? Most intelligent people probably know better than to believe anything from blogs called "no right turn".

Or in fact to even bother reading them. Maybe they're more like a good manager that gets handed a report full of bullshit and files it appropriately. In which case they're probably more likely to believe something from a somewhat less hysterical and demonstrably biased source: http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/data/spi#performance/countries/spi/dim1,dim2,dim3

Perhaps you should look at changing your source of beliefs for some sources of knowledge.

Brian d marge
16th July 2014, 20:53
Pot kettle

Ocean1
16th July 2014, 21:11
Pot kettle

Talk sense man. Social progress is about as left-leaning as they come, if they're suggesting NZ is THE top performer in terms of:

Nourishment
Depth of food deficit
Maternal mortality rate
Stillbirth rate
Child mortality rate
Deaths from infectious diseases
Water and Sanitation
Access to piped water
Rural vs urban access to improved water source
Access to improved sanitation facilities
Shelter
Availability of affordable housing
Access to electricity
Quality of electricity supply
Indoor air pollution attributable deaths
Personal Safety
Homicide rate
Level of violent crime
Perceived criminality
Political terror
Traffic deaths
Foundations of Wellbeing
Access to Basic Knowledge
Adult literacy rate
Primary school enrollment
Lower secondary school enrollment
Upper secondary school enrollment
Gender parity in secondary enrollment
Access to Information and Communications
Mobile telephone subscriptions
Internet users
Press Freedom Index
Health and Wellness
Life expectancy
Non-communicable disease deaths between the ages of 30 and 70
Obesity rate
Outdoor air pollution attributable deaths
Suicide rate
Ecosystem Sustainability
Greenhouse gas emissions
Water withdrawals as a percent of resources
Biodiversity and habitat
Opportunity
Personal Rights
Political rights
Freedom of speech
Freedom of assembly/association
Freedom of movement
Private property rights
Personal Freedom and Choice
Freedom over life choices
Freedom of religion
Modern slavery, human trafficking and child marriage
Satisfied demand for contraception
Corruption
Tolerance and Inclusion
Women treated with respect
Tolerance for immigrants
Tolerance for homosexuals
Discrimination and violence against minorities
Religious tolerance
Community safety net........

Then you have to be an idiot to suggest I'm cherry picking biased data, it's effectively socialisms' gold seal of approval.

blue rider
17th July 2014, 19:29
interesting interview

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/vaclav-smil-interview_b_5584909.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

blue rider
17th July 2014, 21:41
“Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/16/the-tpp-and-civil-war/

Banditbandit
18th July 2014, 13:20
Talk sense man. Social progress is about as left-leaning as they come, if they're suggesting NZ is THE top performer in terms of:

Nourishment
Depth of food deficit
Maternal mortality rate
Stillbirth rate
Child mortality rate
Deaths from infectious diseases
Water and Sanitation
Access to piped water
Rural vs urban access to improved water source
Access to improved sanitation facilities
Shelter
Availability of affordable housing
Access to electricity
Quality of electricity supply
Indoor air pollution attributable deaths
Personal Safety
Homicide rate
Level of violent crime
Perceived criminality
Political terror
Traffic deaths
Foundations of Wellbeing
Access to Basic Knowledge
Adult literacy rate
Primary school enrollment
Lower secondary school enrollment
Upper secondary school enrollment
Gender parity in secondary enrollment
Access to Information and Communications
Mobile telephone subscriptions
Internet users
Press Freedom Index
Health and Wellness
Life expectancy
Non-communicable disease deaths between the ages of 30 and 70
Obesity rate
Outdoor air pollution attributable deaths
Suicide rate
Ecosystem Sustainability
Greenhouse gas emissions
Water withdrawals as a percent of resources
Biodiversity and habitat
Opportunity
Personal Rights
Political rights
Freedom of speech
Freedom of assembly/association
Freedom of movement
Private property rights
Personal Freedom and Choice
Freedom over life choices
Freedom of religion
Modern slavery, human trafficking and child marriage
Satisfied demand for contraception
Corruption
Tolerance and Inclusion
Women treated with respect
Tolerance for immigrants
Tolerance for homosexuals
Discrimination and violence against minorities
Religious tolerance
Community safety net........

Then you have to be an idiot to suggest I'm cherry picking biased data, it's effectively socialisms' gold seal of approval.

Yeah .. I know ... It's obvious the only thing the right cares about is money isn't it ...

Ocean1
18th July 2014, 14:46
Yeah .. I know ... It's obvious the only thing the right cares about is money isn't it ...

And the left has no interest in money, eh?

Well, only other people's.

I don't consider myself of the right, particularly. Just a little sick of the far left banging on blindly about how terrible the world is, how greedy the right is, how needy the poor are and demanding that someone else do something about it.

Now go away and check the status of the various nations on that wee list.

And come back and tell me how many of the best performing ones aren't capitalist societies.

oldrider
18th July 2014, 15:22
And the left has no interest in money, eh?

Well, only other people's.

I don't consider myself of the right, particularly. Just a little sick of the far left banging on blindly about how terrible the world is, how greedy the right is, how needy the poor are and demanding that someone else do something about it.

Now go away and check the status of the various nations on that wee list.

And come back and tell me how many of the best performing ones aren't capitalist societies.

They all spend other people's money ... the difference is "what and who" they spend it on!

Either way it's never very satisfactory ... the left leans to the right to gain traction and the right leans to the left to gain votes!

It's the way of this crazy socialist country! :rolleyes:

Brian d marge
18th July 2014, 15:54
I don't consider myself of the right, particularly. Just a little sick of the far left banging on blindly about how terrible the world is, how greedy the right is, how needy the poor are and demanding that someone else do something about it.

.
Thats a valid opinion .... where is your nnews coming from???

Stephen

blue rider
20th July 2014, 21:55
what goes around comes around
eventually

http://www.fukushima-disaster.de/fileadmin/user_upload/pdf/english/Akzente_Unscear2014.pdf

mashman
22nd July 2014, 08:57
Iraq whitewash? Swathes of UK public inquiry findings suppressed (http://rt.com/uk/174372-secrecy-iraq-uk-inquiry/)... well if they tell the people they know what'll happen so it's hardly surprising they're going to continue to lie and cheat their way into the conscious of the public... and best yet, they know the public will swallow it or plug their ears with their fingers and start yelling out la la la la la la la I can't hear you la la la la la. Useless fuckers.

mashman
22nd July 2014, 23:13
"Buying The Car Was The Worst Decision I Ever Made" - The Subprime Auto Loan Bubble Bursts (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-20/buying-car-was-worst-decision-i-ever-made-subprime-auto-loan-bubble-bursts)... gotta pump that new money into the economy somehow.

Scuba_Steve
23rd July 2014, 13:00
gotta pump that new money into the economy somehow.

I thought that was why humans constantly have wars

Banditbandit
23rd July 2014, 13:02
I thought that was why humans constantly have wars

No .. wars are to reduce the number of unemployed people ..

Akzle
23rd July 2014, 19:20
butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701365/Anti-Semitic-attacks-rise-Europe-German-French-Italian-foreign-ministers-condemn-growing-hostility-against-Jews-wake-Gaza-conflict.html

its totally like 1938 yo!
Fuck, fire up the trains. Im Sick of the bullshit.

Brian d marge
23rd July 2014, 20:11
butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701365/Anti-Semitic-attacks-rise-Europe-German-French-Italian-foreign-ministers-condemn-growing-hostility-against-Jews-wake-Gaza-conflict.html

its totally like 1938 yo!
Fuck, fire up the trains. Im Sick of the bullshit.
Fk the jews , retards are where it . . . .u know the ones too busy doing stuff to notice a fellow person . . . . .half of fkin tokyo

oldrider
23rd July 2014, 20:44
Cry us a river Israel ... your arrogant racist jackboot justice toward Palestine is clear and people around the world are more aware these days! :ar15: . :dodge:

As you sow - then shall you reap!

Who me? :no: .... Just doesn't cut it anymore the only ones being fooled by that BS now is Israel! :spanking:

Brian d marge
23rd July 2014, 21:44
Cry us a river Israel ... your arrogant racist jackboot justice toward Palestine is clear and people around the world are more aware these days! :ar15: . :dodge:

As you sow - then shall you reap!

Who me? :no: .... Just doesn't cut it anymore the only ones being fooled by that BS now is Israel! :spanking:
Yr not starting to wear a tin hat are u by any chance

Next you might be saying how do you dooooo to people


How do you dooooo


Stephen

mashman
23rd July 2014, 22:41
butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701365/Anti-Semitic-attacks-rise-Europe-German-French-Italian-foreign-ministers-condemn-growing-hostility-against-Jews-wake-Gaza-conflict.html

its totally like 1938 yo!
Fuck, fire up the trains. Im Sick of the bullshit.

Epic fail :facepalm:

S'ok though, the election will be along shortly and all will be well with the world.

unstuck
24th July 2014, 05:38
https://scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10559734_10152541445833908_6727452049778887489_n.j pg

Akzle
24th July 2014, 05:44
Fk the jews , retards are where it . . . .u know the ones too busy doing stuff to notice a fellow person . . . . .half of fkin tokyo

fuken auckland too. Townie pricks.

Akzle
24th July 2014, 05:47
Epic fail :facepalm:

S'ok though, the election will be along shortly and all will be well with the world.

yeah. Im electing god.
...Nothing to do with democracy or the parliament farce tho

blue rider
24th July 2014, 13:55
democracy going the way of greece

who needs it anyways

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/07/23/blacklisted/

Brian d marge
24th July 2014, 22:59
Townies . . . . Ahhh maybe so

Ive just cycled across japan and the people are amazing

One woman ran up beside and gave me a can of coffee . . .so nice

Must be townies must be

avgas
25th July 2014, 03:30
Cry us a river Israel ... your arrogant racist jackboot justice toward Palestine is clear and people around the world are more aware these days! :ar15: . :dodge:

As you sow - then shall you reap!

Who me? :no: .... Just doesn't cut it anymore the only ones being fooled by that BS now is Israel! :spanking:
On that note - turns out the Iron Dome isn't as flash as they say it is...
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/07/this-scientist-explains-why-israels-iron-dome-overrated/89132/

blue rider
25th July 2014, 14:39
http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/july/satellite-study-reveals-parched-us-west-using-up-underground-water/#.U9FkrlY_EpE

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2014/07/12/nestle-arrowhead-tapping-water/12589267/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/australian-southeast-seen-drier-as-el-nino-predicted-for-harvest.html

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/super-el-nino-may-be-off-the-table-now-but-this-winter-may-be-far-from-what-we-typically-expect/32362/

water

who needs it?

Personally I am fond of vodka...copious amounts of vodka.

avgas
25th July 2014, 14:50
Personally I am fond of vodka...copious amounts of vodka.
In Russia Water and Vodka have similar words and sound similar you can easily get confused with labels if you keep translating russian to english etc.

They had to put them in different shaped bottles some time ago as people would take a swing from the wrong one in the morning. (Or at-least that was the excuse they made)

Brian d marge
25th July 2014, 15:05
http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/july/satellite-study-reveals-parched-us-west-using-up-underground-water/#.U9FkrlY_EpE

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2014/07/12/nestle-arrowhead-tapping-water/12589267/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/australian-southeast-seen-drier-as-el-nino-predicted-for-harvest.html

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/super-el-nino-may-be-off-the-table-now-but-this-winter-may-be-far-from-what-we-typically-expect/32362/

water

who needs it?

Personally I am fond of vodka...copious amounts of vodka.
I have an aquaponic set up uses fk all water
And iread about a woman in arizona who had a wonderfull green lawn and garden in the desert used fk all water
Though i cant find the article again and am not sure how she did it

Big monocultures are scewing things up imho . . . How dem cows doing

Akzle
25th July 2014, 16:28
http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/july/satellite-study-reveals-parched-us-west-using-up-underground-water/#.U9FkrlY_EpE

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2014/07/12/nestle-arrowhead-tapping-water/12589267/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/australian-southeast-seen-drier-as-el-nino-predicted-for-harvest.html

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/super-el-nino-may-be-off-the-table-now-but-this-winter-may-be-far-from-what-we-typically-expect/32362/

water

who needs it?

Personally I am fond of vodka...copious amounts of vodka.

it's illegal in parts of the states, to catch /take/ use rain water.
clearly, the government owns that shit, and can ban you from having any benefit.

watch teh doco "flow, for the love of water"

mashman
25th July 2014, 17:50
I have an aquaponic set up uses fk all water
And iread about a woman in arizona who had a wonderfull green lawn and garden in the desert used fk all water
Though i cant find the article again and am not sure how she did it

Big monocultures are scewing things up imho . . . How dem cows doing

Using God, Pan, Devas, Nature Spirits re-found for the Findhorn Gardens? The Magic of Findhorn is a very interesting read in regards to stuff growing in places it shouldn't be growing and how gardening novices produced a 42lb cabbage from sand in one of the most inhospitable places of Scotland.

Akzle
25th July 2014, 18:00
...one of the most inhospitable places of :Scotland.

. .

Brian d marge
25th July 2014, 18:01
Well in the window sill

The water has remained clear and actually drinkable . . . I know hahaha
The fish seem ok and the little crayfish too
Ive made a few cockups like the crayfish ate one of the fish . . .
The lettuce is growing but not producing a heart but thevother plant that likes shade has gone ballistic
Its a system that works . . And i couldnt grow a beard if i tried

No big business mono cultures sux balls

Akzle
25th July 2014, 18:35
Well in the window sill

The water has remained clear and actually drinkable . . . I know hahaha
The fish seem ok and the little crayfish too
Ive made a few cockups like the crayfish ate one of the fish . . .
The lettuce is growing but not producing a heart but thevother plant that likes shade has gone ballistic
Its a system that works . . And i couldnt grow a beard if i tried

No big business mono cultures sux balls

talapia, apparently the easiest fishs.

i'd go koura. maybe turtles.

lettuce is arse. hydro spinnach wins.

Brian d marge
25th July 2014, 18:40
talapia, apparently the easiest fishs.

i'd go koura. maybe turtles.

lettuce is arse. hydro spinnach wins.
I want to try talpia but i dont know the japanese . . . Will try spinnach

As the lettuce is growing but is all spindley

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/25/yqy8ytyh.jpg


:)

Brian d marge
27th July 2014, 12:25
A copy of the Genesis share register compiled immediately before its stock exchange listing in April shows American pet-food barons Christopher and Leegena Weinberg held 1.05 million shares, which would have cost $1.6m. At current prices, those shares would now be worth about $1.9m - a $300,000 profit for the Weinbergs.


All bought and paid for with 0 interest money


hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa


oh and as shareholders must make a profit , one wonders if the prices will go up.........


but the nice man promised they wouldnt ,,,,,,,he had such a nice smile too

Stephen

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahhahahahahahahahahaha

blue rider
27th July 2014, 13:25
can someone please translate this for me because my brain is hurting

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10310778/Auckland-Airport-US-loan-priced

Auckland International Airport has completed the refinancing of its $454 million capital return to shareholders on April 14.

The airport company today priced a US$250m ($291m) loan from United States investors.

Akzle
27th July 2014, 15:00
can someone please translate this for me because my brain is hurting

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10310778/Auckland-Airport-US-loan-priced

real easy. Every time you see a '$' symbol, some schmuck is getting fucked in the ass.

Brian d marge
27th July 2014, 23:21
real easy. Every time you see a '$' symbol, some schmuck is getting fucked in the ass.
they borrowed money before and now its due , they aint got the cash so they borrow again ( even cheaper hahahah) to pay back the first bunch

no ticky no shirty ,,,,,,,,

Stephen



btw its u and I who are taking the reaming

mashman
28th July 2014, 08:26
can someone please translate this for me because my brain is hurting

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10310778/Auckland-Airport-US-loan-priced

Everyone's happy because they got a good deal on a loan.

Banditbandit
28th July 2014, 11:27
can someone please translate this for me because my brain is hurting

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10310778/Auckland-Airport-US-loan-priced

The company borrowed money to pay its shareholders .. and had to borrow more to pay back the original loan ????

SPman
28th July 2014, 13:34
I see Nick Smith is being his usual fuckwitted self...


Conservation Minister Nick Smith is threatening legal action against Fish and Game council members who accused him of trying to gag the organisation.

Fish and Game chief executive Bryce Johnson said the minister indicated he wanted to “tweak” Fish and Game because its advocacy for clean rivers was standing in the way of economic growth.

Clean rivers?

Anathema!

:brick:

blue rider
29th July 2014, 08:31
this is fun

http://www.swerus-c3.geo.su.se/index.php/oerjans-blog-leg-1/170-observing-and-investigating

The Pastor
29th July 2014, 10:23
it's illegal in parts of the states, to catch /take/ use rain water.
clearly, the government owns that shit, and can ban you from having any benefit.

watch teh doco "flow, for the love of water"

Its only illegal where they have massive water problems - streams drying up, streams which feed the town local water supply.......

avgas
29th July 2014, 10:24
I see Nick Smith is being his usual fuckwitted self...Clean rivers?
If this is true then why the fuck is he the conservation minister.

This is why I think we would be better off electing animals instead of people. I would feel much safer.
Hell I would even vote for honest retarded people.

You know what we need in the Beehive. Hot Chicks.
Hot Chicks make everything better.

Which party has a hot chick and how do I vote for her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhcK5NYsWa8

mashman
29th July 2014, 10:31
Its only illegal where they have massive water problems - streams drying up, streams which feed the town local water supply.......

They then sell it on to the frackers and they run the town drier quicker. Genius.

mashman
29th July 2014, 13:02
Argentine Default Drama Nears Critical Stage (http://online.wsj.com/articles/argentine-default-drama-nears-critical-stage-1406503026)

SPman
29th July 2014, 16:18
You know what we need in the Beehive. Hot Chicks.
Hot Chicks make everything better.

Which party has a hot chick and how do I vote for her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhcK5NYsWa8

That's more like it, boyo!