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Big Dave
7th July 2005, 14:19
Before Saturday's ride was hijacked (pt) Buggy and i had discussed doing a few photos if the weather is conducive.
I have some new toys and am still up for that - even if we stay in town.
There are some locations in the Domain - or we could head out west a bit and see what we can find - if you would like a nice pic or just come for a burn.....
I propose the original meet up at Mission Bay car park 10.30am Saturday - weather permitting.
If anyone knows a good corner with sight lines - please.
This is the Domain spot I'm thinking of.
White trash
7th July 2005, 15:49
Who's the guy on the "soulless beast"?
bugjuice
7th July 2005, 15:53
oi!
yeah, I'll come along.. been meaning to catch up with ya at some point anyway ;)
Depends on how much traffic you want around at the time, there's a few decent corners on the main road heading to Mission bay from the city... but that might be tricky/dangerous with all the other traffic, if it's busy.. We could keep cruising round the coast line if you want.. then just stop if you think you have somewhere
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 16:07
Who's the guy on the "soulless beast"?
Col'n. you'll meet him soon enough - warewolf on here.
Soul-less from a Suzuki man? (yes - I know who said it originally)
Remember:
FEINT
7th July 2005, 16:09
This sounds like good fun, but I can't make it.
Just wondering what kind of setup of camera / lens are you using? Were the above photos photoshopped for the blurred background and lighting?
Have fun guys.
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 16:11
oi!
yeah, I'll come along.. been meaning to catch up with ya at some point anyway ;)
Depends on how much traffic you want around at the time, there's a few decent corners on the main road heading to Mission bay from the city... but that might be tricky/dangerous with all the other traffic, if it's busy.. We could keep cruising round the coast line if you want.. then just stop if you think you have somewhere
Problem there is if we want the view/scenery in the background the sun is on the wrong side - that's why i suggested head west - waitaks maybe - plus you are riding that easterly direction next day.
But I'm easy - we can make it up as we go. see who turns up.
bugjuice
7th July 2005, 16:17
there's always SH16.. plenty of sweepers and scenic backdrops.. also cops in unwarey places. But we won't be doing anything naughty, so I'm sure we'd be fine..
On the old north road, there's a nice 'S' sweeper that's just been repaved. Sheltered by woods, so you should be able to move around to get the best lighting/shade. Some good knee-down shots may be..?
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 16:24
This sounds like good fun, but I can't make it.
Just wondering what kind of setup of camera / lens are you using? Were the above photos photoshopped for the blurred background and lighting?
Have fun guys.
Shame - we have some common ground - next time.
Konica Minolta Dimage A200 and I just bought the telephoto converter lens attachment for it.
All here
http://konicaminolta.com/products/consumer/digital_camera/dimage/dimage-a200
I went this way - rather than the more accepted cannon choices - because it's more compact that the SLR's and fits in a small shoulder case that is no drama to wear when riding.
8mpx and good opticals - with the converter it given me a 300mm equiv.
The only photoshopping on those pics is some 'unsharp mask' - the speed blur is from slowing the ASA right down - ASA 50 - using a 1/125 shutter and panning with the bike.
FEINT
7th July 2005, 16:29
Shame - we have some common ground - next time.
Konica Minolta Dimage A200 and I just bought the telephoto converter lens attachment for it.
All here
http://konicaminolta.com/products/consumer/digital_camera/dimage/dimage-a200
I went this way - rather than the more accepted cannon choices - because it's more compact that the SLR's and fits in a small shoulder case that is no drama to wear when riding.
8mpx and good opticals - with the converter it given me a 300mm equiv.
The only photoshopping on those pics is some 'unsharp mask' - the speed blur is from slowing the ASA right down - ASA 50 - using a 1/125 shutter and panning with the bike.
Wow, you need a steady hand to PAN that well!!! I have a Nikon D70 and I have a 70-300mm lens, I just don't seem to be able to get such shots with the PANNING. I find that the focus changes because the distance between myself and the bike is changing. I end up having to photoshop the blur in to the picture.
The lighting for the above shots seem to be just nice as well, sunlight isn't too strong! I have to try dropping the shutter speed to about 1/125.
A200 has ANTI-SHAKE technology, awesome!!!!
surfchick
7th July 2005, 16:37
hey big dave- did you take the pics- you've totally sussed the blur speed shot- nice one. i can't find a green jealous smilie...lets not start about the bike....
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 16:39
Wow, you need a steady hand to PAN that well!!! I have a Nikon D70 and I have a 70-300mm lens, I just don't seem to be able to get such shots with the PANNING. I find that the focus changes because the distance between myself and the bike is changing. I end up having to photoshop the blur in to the picture.
The lighting for the above shots seem to be just nice as well, sunlight isn't too strong! I have to try dropping the shutter speed to about 1/125.
Thanks for the info.. :D
yes - it was quite overcast.
try focussing on the piece of road where the bike will be at where you want to make the exposure first - before it gets there - then lock it or use manual - then pick up the bike at a distance and pan/follow it to that point you've focussed on and Schnappo!
I also went for the 8mp so as i don't have to ba as tight with the framing either. Just crop 'em later.
(i have been adding DOF to digital shots in PS for years too.- shhh)
bungbung
7th July 2005, 16:43
If you slow down the shutter speed for blur, your aperture will need to be smaller causing your DOF problems. Solution = less light in. Depending on your camera, you may not be able to reduce the effective "film" speed enough. So a ND or polarising filter will help with DOF.
Done a Honda Photo shoot a few years back out Maraitai (sp?) way. Plenty of nice seaside windys out that way.
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 17:00
hey big dave- did you take the pics- you've totally sussed the blur speed shot- nice one. i can't find a green jealous smilie...lets not start about the bike....
thanks - 'twere all me own work - I have been practicing.
the telephoto lens is an effort to get even better DOF like the Lou Martin shot of me on the Street Rod.
(And have to say - nowhere near as cool as directing a feature film! That is the nice one)
These are quite low res:
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 17:08
If you slow down the shutter speed for blur, your aperture will need to be smaller causing your DOF problems. Solution = less light in. Depending on your camera, you may not be able to reduce the effective "film" speed enough. So a ND or polarising filter will help with DOF.
Exactly! - I'm now (Like saturday) trying to find that formula for minimum DOF and maximum speed blur like the Street Rod shot above.
I've even found some calculators on line - but bit hard to access in the field on a bike.
Trouble is the telephoto is 86mm and a polarising filter is a quite expensive.
'Experience is a good school but the fees are high' - glad it's all disposable nowadays.
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 17:13
Done a Honda Photo shoot a few years back out Maraitai (sp?) way. Plenty of nice seaside windys out that way.
true - but in the morning the sun is on the far side of the bike if you want the water in the background. Afternoons are better out that way.
hmmm- we could go here - it's in the Bombays and works in the mornings
ManDownUnder
7th July 2005, 17:15
there's always SH16.. plenty of sweepers and scenic backdrops.. also cops in unwarey places. But we won't be doing anything naughty, so I'm sure we'd be fine..
On the old north road, there's a nice 'S' sweeper that's just been repaved. Sheltered by woods, so you should be able to move around to get the best lighting/shade. Some good knee-down shots may be..?
Bowl out to my place sometime (Kumeu) and I'll show you a couple that come to mind... there is a nursery about 5 km from my place with a sweeping right hander that should be ok... good sight lines right off the apex as there is a road heading off there, just worried the Armco might get in the way - I'd need to check
Also a couple of good ones further down the road in Riverhead (sweeping right hander, downhill and a vantage spot off the apex), and more between Riverhead and Albany, some nice esses etc. There's another one about 1k from my place on Waitakere road outside the Saddelry and horse feed place (Board cres I think it is).
Shed big enough for 4 or 5 bikes at home too too if wanted... and a nice hot cuppa between showers.
PM me if you want but Saturday is out... maybe Sunday
or ring.. 021 890 126
MDU
Big Dave
7th July 2005, 17:28
PM me if you want but Saturday is out... maybe Sunday
or ring.. 021 890 126
MDU
taaa - Will do - All this started cause i've got a family gig on Sunday.
aff-man
7th July 2005, 18:21
hmmm i might pop out. Sounds like fun.
Hey BJ what about that hill on 22 some awsome corners there and stuff :Punk:
bugjuice
7th July 2005, 18:28
hmmm i might pop out. Sounds like fun.
Hey BJ what about that hill on 22 some awsome corners there and stuff :Punk:
hmmm.. that hill on the 22... PICK ONE!!!!!! :devil2: :weird:
the thing with photo shoots, is that you have to make a couple of passes (or I assume so), and I won't want to turn back!!
The 22 is a bit of a trekk down there just to snap a few shots. Could be a bit far. I think out the west could be best.. or even out towards helensville/Kaoukopakopa/Silverdale way.. plenty of nice open quiet roads, and isn't too far from town.
End of the day, it's probably up to dave. I'm not taking over this thread too.. I've done enough posting for the week ;)
FEINT
8th July 2005, 11:43
thanks - 'twere all me own work - I have been practicing.
the telephoto lens is an effort to get even better DOF like the Lou Martin shot of me on the Street Rod.
I like that shot of the Street Rod!!! I still can't seem to figure out the Depth of Field stuff you guys are talking about.
Here are some of my shots, but doesn't seem to have the DEPTH that your photos seem to have. I am assuming I need to ZOOM in more?
Next time you have one of these photoshoot events, I would be keen on coming along. :D
bungbung
8th July 2005, 11:50
Exactly! - I'm now (Like saturday) trying to find that formula for minimum DOF and maximum speed blur like the Street Rod shot above.
I've even found some calculators on line - but bit hard to access in the field on a bike.
Trouble is the telephoto is 86mm and a polarising filter is a quite expensive.
'Experience is a good school but the fees are high' - glad it's all disposable nowadays.
You'll be wanting to use the widest aperture you have. A fast tele lens helps a lot. For track use, see if you can borrow a 200 or 300mm f2.8 lens. For roadside shoots, because you can get closer, you can use something like a 85mm f1.8 which gives incredible DOF.
bugjuice
8th July 2005, 11:55
must admit, I do quite like that shot of me, Feint.. I thought that's a good one!!
Big Dave
8th July 2005, 12:06
I like that shot of the Street Rod!!! I still can't seem to figure out the Depth of Field stuff you guys are talking about.
Here are some of my shots, but doesn't seem to have the DEPTH that your photos seem to have. I am assuming I need to ZOOM in more?
Next time you have one of these photoshoot events, I would be keen on coming along. :D
google it.
but they look publication quality to me mate. The longer focal length of the zoom means that the 'field' of focus can be made quite narrow.
He used a 600mm lens and stood 75mtrs back from the road for the street rod shots.
Thanks bungbung - may your pies have much sauce.
FEINT
8th July 2005, 13:50
google it.
He used a 600mm lens and stood 75mtrs back from the road for the street rod shots.
WOW! 600mm??!??!? that is a big lens!
Big Dave
8th July 2005, 15:24
WOW! 600mm??!??!? that is a big lens!
Sorry - i was exaggerating, but it was close.
i meant it to sound like he was half a mile away and using a telescope.
Big Dave
9th July 2005, 14:53
affman and bugjuice.
we actually got a bit into the ride and didn't do as many photos as planned.
affman and bugjuice.
we actually got a bit into the ride and didn't do as many photos as planned.Great pics thanks BD!
So what bike were you riding today?? I followed BJ, aff-man, and another bike which was in front of them, from the BP at Whitford for about 6 kms until you's turned off toward Clevedon. Was that you? Good to hear you got into the riding more than taking photos, that's what it's all about! :ride:
justsomeguy
9th July 2005, 15:07
Nice pics..
Good attempt at getting your knee down Affy......
Big Dave
9th July 2005, 15:21
Great pics thanks BD!
So what bike were you riding today?? I followed BJ, aff-man, and another bike which was in front of them, from the BP at Whitford for about 6 kms until you's turned off toward Clevedon. Was that you? Good to hear you got into the riding more than taking photos, that's what it's all about! :ride:
Couldn't keep up with the old thunderbird huh? :devil2:
Twas I, me, myself - why didn't you come and play?
Twas I, me, myself - why didn't you come and play?I had an appointment elsewhere to play! Keeping up was a synch...with all those road works slowing you guys down and all *cough*.
bugjuice
9th July 2005, 15:28
thought that might have been you Zed, but I thought you had a black lid, not silver/white.. I wondered if you were going to stay with us or take off..
Nice pics Dave.. must get that side resprayed.. Nice work! :niceone:
aff-man
9th July 2005, 15:30
Cheers dave
Yeh we had some fun....
See you fella's tomorrow :Punk: :Punk:
Big Dave
9th July 2005, 15:35
that's what it's all about!
Bugger - I thought it was the 'Hokey Pokey'.
chz.
FEINT
9th July 2005, 17:48
Nice shots!!!! WHen is the next one???!?!?!?!?!
I see somebody has a new set of gloves and boots!!! :Punk: :Punk:
Big Dave
9th July 2005, 21:58
Nice shots!!!! WHen is the next one???!?!?!?!?!
Tomorrow - might tag along for fush and chups.
The side - ons are the two I'd publish from today.
FEINT
10th July 2005, 08:06
I have to say, the focus and pan with the bike shot, you have it mastered! Very very nice!! You allow the photo to come out so CLeAR!!
I will have to practise my pan and shoot. Need to get the timing right. :whistle:
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