Bike buying insight?

[Oblivion]

Okay, So I am trying to persuade my parents to allow me to get a 600, to store until I get my full, Hopefully in just under a month and a half.

So the bike I'm looking at is an 85' Gpz600r.

It has had a fresh rebuild of the engine, stripped down completely and rebuilt with new parts, including a respray with fairings, battery, and all that stuff. To avoid having to list everything, here's the link.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-412341447.htm

Now, he wants 3k for it. That's including the cost of the bike and the parts that he has fitted. not including labour.

1) Do you think that is reasonable for what he has done to the bike, and

2) Do you think that in all honesty, I should look at getting a step between bike instead for that kind of money? If so, what can you recommend that,

*Is ideal for commuting around 40k per day, and can handle the long range trips (300k+), and lastly, wont have too much power. As in 80+ horsies. And ideally a sports bike. (3k budget.)

I am on a GN250 currently and although the seat is comfy, I'm too tall for it..... Not to mention that as of late it's having a hissy fit at me and deciding to work when it wants to. :angry2: (Much like my Brother)

[bluebird]

Looks good....a classic bike, with classic maintenance ahead. But for 3k a lovely bike if the motor is good.:scooter:

[Sable]

I'll sell you an FZR1000 for 3 and a half? :laugh:

[Lurch]

Not so sure about whether it's a good deal, the unknown Ks on the engine is slightly worrying. The fact that someone has torn it down and put it back together again is also slightly worrying as you have to hope they knew what they were doing.

How about a GS500?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-410285142.htm

[imdying]

It's an old heap, keep your money safely in your pocket. Most people can't undo a screw without rounding the head, you don't want a bike reassembled by an amateur. That aside, it's too much money in any case. Putting the auction up in classic and vintage doesn't actually make it either.

If you want an old heap, get one like this:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-410226527.htm
That model is already a classic. Spend the $1400 on tyres and oil changes, spend the other $100 on some weed and beers.

A little more and you're into:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-409296910.htm
Fun fun ride, even at this age, worth spending another six months saving for if it comes down to that.

Remember, that GPZ needed an engine rebuild and a fairing respray because it was completely rooted. He has spent $3000 on it, and that does not go very far :no:

[imdying]

sore wristsGrip with your thighs and use your core muscles, makes a big difference. Out of town it doesn't matter much.

[Sable]

Grip with your thighs and use your core muscles, makes a big difference. Out of town it doesn't matter much.
Yep, stop being a pansy. GSXR is a way better deal than the GPz. Mine's still better though!

[Ender EnZed]

It could easily be a money pit.

You could get this VFR400 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142466-1992-vfr400-nc30) for approximately your budget. I'd say there's less chance of it eating all your money and being unsaleable in future. It's also a very good model of bike as well as being potentially an easier sell to your parents, 400 doesn't sound big.

[imdying]

It could easily be a money pit.That would be my worry. From the parents comment I'm guessing you are like most of us were at that age... not rolling in it. Think about a year from now.

[otter]

I can't see why you'd want to get a working 600 but not ride it until you get a full. The only 600 I can see a point in getting at this point is one that you're going to ride illegally anyway or one that's broken that you can play around with fixing?

[kave]

I wouldn't buy anything without WOF and reg, especially not if you are planning on using it as a commuter in the near future. The re-vinning process is a nuisance, and can be quite expensive and time consuming.

[NinjaNanna]

re-read the ad, the motor hasn't been touched

[scracha]

You've got "first big bike" syndrome. Do not in any circumstances take that old bike for a ride. It's worth $1700 tops. GPZ/X 600 gearboxes are notorious for gearbox failure too. Seller may be genuine but is it worth the risk? Reason for sale sounds strange too as they're hardly midget bikes.

If you're mechanically minded then I guess fucking about with shite old bikes is fun. However, shite old parts still cost an absolute fortune and you mentioned a daily commute so you want something reliable (so that rules out Suzuki's :innocent: ). I'd stick with Honda or Yamaha myself.

Get yourself something a lotmore modern for similar money. Something like the following

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-412290464.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-410776482.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-411311679.htm

[Renegade]

be good little commuter

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-410974395.htm

[F5 Dave]

N. .. but I would never buy a bike with lowered racing style handle bars as you will get sore wrists and your periferal vision is reduced. Try and get a sit on a similar bike to see if you like the riding position

Sorry I don't mean to laugh but

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA:laugh::laugh:

deep sigh , no wait

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH cough splutter.

lowered racing style handle bars? That GPZ's about as upright as you are going :scooter:to get - plus your comments are wrong & mimic those of some tired old BMW riding broomstick up rectum cop. Do you expect you will be looking at the ground or something? Hahahahahahahaha. No Disrespect intended (that's what you say once you've just dissed someone & try not to look like a meanie).

[RAJAH1]

Its maybe just ok valuewise if all the work has been done professionally. I'm guessing it hasnt and therefore its pretty a dubious purchase proposition. There is much out there that is better value than this old girl.

[SilentDtH]

Just a thought:

If a bike has been rebuilt by a motorbike workshop, what's to say that they didn't get the fresh, young apprentice to work on it who had never rebuilt a motor in his life? Does that happen?

Sometimes if someone has done something out of passion for a hobby, they spend a lot more time and care with it then a shop would - and could potentially do a much better job.

I think it's swings and roundabouts either way.

Happy to be told otherwise (I also like the look of the GPZ, but couldn't recommend either way as relatively inexperienced on such matters) :)