Speed enforcement - what tricks are the police using?

[zippy]

Having spent the last 10 years living in the UK, i have become a little naive to the tactics and techniques the police are using, i have held a clean licence for 14 years but i am picking up a gixer 1000 this weekend and want to keep it that way, i am looking at a TPX radar detector today but when i left fixed speed cameras were just been installed in Napier at the time there was only one or two.

I hear that there are undercover crappy vans out and about now by some private firms that are not even marked up at all? - one was pointed out to me on the side of the road, do the take images both sides or just from the back of there van IE can i stick my finger up as i ride towards it?

Can someone educate me on the systems the police have in there cars, are they always sending out signals or reading speeds of vehicles all the time, does it work both ways ie giving reads for persons in front of there car or both sides of the road or are they having to aim it towards a vehicle first as they are driving along?

Any other things i need to be aware of, i am assuming its still ford xrs and holdens they are using for undercover vehicles?

[jellywrestler]

can i stick my finger up as i ride towards it?


You're welcome to stick your finger up your own arse, but why stick it up at a speed camera. somewhere there'll be a pile of photos of fuckwits like you with their fingers 'up' and they'll use these to legislate front number plates I'm thinking...

[Eyegasm]

Simple answer is don't speed.

or wear a disguise, I recommend silly hats
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[Jay GTI]

Simple answer is don't speed.



No it isn't, not speeding is actually really fecking hard to do...

[Eyegasm]

No it isn't, not speeding is actually really fecking hard to do...

Really?

You don't have enough "Mantrol" then.

If I really wanted to stay below "speeding" limits, then it isn't that hard.
I choose to exceed them.

My choice, my consequence.
My fine, my demerits.

I still recommend silly hats though...

[SEOGlopex]

Having spent the last 10 years living in the UK, i have become a little naive to the tactics and techniques the police are using, i have held a clean licence for 14 years but i am picking up a gixer 1000 this weekend and want to keep it that way, i am looking at a TPX radar detector today but when i left fixed speed cameras were just been installed in Napier at the time there was only one or two.

I hear that there are undercover crappy vans out and about now by some private firms that are not even marked up at all? - one was pointed out to me on the side of the road, do the take images both sides or just from the back of there van IE can i stick my finger up as i ride towards it?

Can someone educate me on the systems the police have in there cars, are they always sending out signals or reading speeds of vehicles all the time, does it work both ways ie giving reads for persons in front of there car or both sides of the road or are they having to aim it towards a vehicle first as they are driving along?

Any other things i need to be aware of, i am assuming its still ford xrs and holdens they are using for undercover vehicles?

Thanks for sharing that mate... greatly appreciated :).........
However, on other note:








Originally Posted by zippy


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can i stick my finger up as i ride towards it?



You're welcome to stick your finger up your own arse, but why stick it up at a speed camera. somewhere there'll be a pile of photos of fuckwits like you with their fingers 'up' and they'll use these to legislate front number plates I'm thinking...

[sugilite]

Yes, they have old vans with cameras inside, and the odd station wagon too. Their unmarked cars can be just about any newish car, certainly not restricted to just fords and holdens. Patrol cars with radar often use what they call "instant on" which means they see you and press the button and it zaps on and zaps you. As far as I'm aware radar detectors are not much good against this technique.
Personally I find it all just a bit too stressful riding with eyes on stalks these days and can not be bothered speeding on state highways, main roads etc.

[Jay GTI]

Really?

You don't have enough "Mantrol" then.

If I really wanted to stay below "speeding" limits, then it isn't that hard.
I choose to exceed them.

My choice, my consequence.
My fine, my demerits.

I still recommend silly hats though...

So from that I assume you've not tried to not speed at all during the entirety of a journeny of reasonable length then? I don't mean generally not exceeding the speed limit, mean not at all, ever, for the whole trip.

Try it this weekend, in fact try it for the whole weekend. Don't speed once. Then tell me how easy it is...

[Eyegasm]

So from that I assume you've not tried to not speed at all during the entirety of a journeny of reasonable length then? I don't mean generally not exceeding the speed limit, mean not at all, ever, for the whole trip.

Try it this weekend, in fact try it for the whole weekend. Don't speed once. Then tell me how easy it is...

Done over 700kms in a single journey without ever going over 100kms.

If they are unknown roads to me I generally go at a slower pace, but that is just me.
Roads I know are a different story.

This weekend will be a breeze to not speed. I'll be intoxicated all weekend so will not be on the bike.

Obviously a familiar ride or route it is easy for your speed to go above without realising. But saying that it is freckin hard to not speed is a load of crap.

[slofox]

Really?

You don't have enough "Mantrol" then.



I was just wondering...

Is the female version of Mantrol something like...Cuntrol? :whistle:

[Kees]

It's quite difficult to keep to the speed limit on a 1000 cc sportbike...you barely get into 3rd on a 6 speed g/box....anyway why do we have these bikes, because of the thrill of the power !!!!....a 150 cc will quite adequately do 100 kph....I can't see many of us on those...no direspect....:innocent:

[Jay GTI]

Done over 700kms in a single journey without ever going over 100kms.

If they are unknown roads to me I generally go at a slower pace, but that is just me.
Roads I know are a different story.

This weekend will be a breeze to not speed. I'll be intoxicated all weekend so will not be on the bike.

Obviously a familiar ride or route it is easy for your speed to go above without realising. But saying that it is freckin hard to not speed is a load of crap.

Now are you sure you didn’t speed over that entire journey? You may not have exceeded 100kph, but was 100kph the only posted speed limit you were subject to on that journey? Did you strictly adhere to any of the other speed limits you encountered on that journey? You didn’t at any point go from a 100kph zone to say a 70 or 50kph zone and not slow down to below that speed, before you passed that new speed limit sign? Or any other situation where you might have exceeded a lower speed limit without even noticing? I’m intrigued, any specific reason for not exceeding 100kph in this journey that you’re not telling me?

I also find it interesting that in your reply, you even offer up a situation where it’s easy to speed… surely that would by logic mean that in that situation, it’s not easy to not speed?

The point I’m making is it might be easy to maintain a speed somewhere in the region of the posted speed limit, but unless you spend a lot of time concentrating on your speed, make a point of travelling at a reasonable amount below the posted speed limit to avoid speed creep, as well as watch yourself closely on hills and when you enter new, lower posted speed limit zones, you will at some point speed. Which is, unless there is a very, very good reason, something we all do.

Already it’s not sounding simple, is it?

[Grasshopperus]

Is the female version of Mantrol something like...Cuntrol? :whistle:

She-troll?

[Dodgy_Matt]

Now are you sure you didn’t speed over that entire journey? You may not have exceeded 100kph, but was 100kph the only posted speed limit you were subject to on that journey? Did you strictly adhere to any of the other speed limits you encountered on that journey? You didn’t at any point go from a 100kph zone to say a 70 or 50kph zone and not slow down to below that speed, before you passed that new speed limit sign? Or any other situation where you might have exceeded a lower speed limit without even noticing? I’m intrigued, any specific reason for not exceeding 100kph in this journey that you’re not telling me?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/local-papers/the-wellingtonian/3399615/Speed-limits-ignored

I like this bit... havent seen it anywhere else


police guidelines prevented officers from enforcing speed limits within 250 metres of a speed limit drop –

[BigAl]

Yeah keeping speed down while cruising is not too hard but when have to pass a slow car/cars(you know the 80-90k codgers) then opening up a 1000 it's easy to exceed speed limit by heaps.

In the interests of road safety less time spent on wrong side of the road the better unfortunately doesn't wash with boys in blue.

Also beware that during holiday weekend like the one coming up the Police drop speed tolerance to 4ks.

[Jay GTI]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/local-papers/the-wellingtonian/3399615/Speed-limits-ignored

I like this bit... havent seen it anywhere else


Buuuuuut, that is a guideline and as we well know, the Police like to use "guidelines" only when it suits them.

Also, while that guideline may mean it is unlikely you will be prosecuted for not dropping to or below the posted speed limit when you pass the sign, you are still speeding and under some circumstances (like when causing an accident as a result of your speed), you can still be prosecuted.

[Dodgy_Matt]

Buuuuuut, that is a guideline and as we well know, the Police like to use "guidelines" only when it suits them.

Also, while that guideline may mean it is unlikely you will be prosecuted for not dropping to or below the posted speed limit when you pass the sign, you are still speeding and under some circumstances (like when causing an accident as a result of your speed), you can still be prosecuted.

Found it here too..

http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/2007/speed-enforcement-guide/


When speed camera enforcement is taking place in the area of passing lanes, vehicles should not be targeted within 250 (two hundred and fifty) metres of the finish of any passing lane.

[Jay GTI]

Found it here too..

http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/2007/speed-enforcement-guide/


Yep, here it is in full, in nice plain english:

When enforcement is taking place in an area where drivers are making the transition from a higher speed to a lower speed area, vehicles should not be targeted within 250 (two hundred and fifty) metres from the point where the speed limit changes unless there are good reasons to do so, such as protecting people operating at road works or to ensure the safety of children. (This does not apply within school zones.)

So again, it's not simple. ...

[Dodgy_Matt]

Yep, here it is in full, in nice plain english:

When enforcement is taking place in an area where drivers are making the transition from a higher speed to a lower speed area, vehicles should not be targeted within 250 (two hundred and fifty) metres from the point where the speed limit changes unless there are good reasons to do so, such as protecting people operating at road works or to ensure the safety of children. (This does not apply within school zones.)

So again, it's not simple. ...
Both school areas and road works will be sign posted so it should not be that hard to get right either...

[george formby]

Yep, here it is in full, in nice plain english:

When enforcement is taking place in an area where drivers are making the transition from a higher speed to a lower speed area, vehicles should not be targeted within 250 (two hundred and fifty) metres from the point where the speed limit changes unless there are good reasons to do so, such as protecting people operating at road works or to ensure the safety of children. (This does not apply within school zones.)

So again, it's not simple. ...

:blink:We have a Supermarket, petrol station, an adventure park & a motel all within 250 m of 100kmh to 50 kmh transition. There is a pedestrian crossing within 300 mtrs.

Common sense must prevail me thinks.

[Rhys]

[QUOTE

Common sense must prevail me thinks.[/QUOTE]

Yeah right

[Shadowjack]

No it isn't, not speeding is actually really fecking hard to do...
I don't know that I would admit to being unable to control my motorcycle...

[bikaholic]

Nicksta needs retards on motorcycles to keep the ACC levies up, plenty here.

[scumdog]

What tricks do we use?

The trick of knowing certain ding-a-lings can't spot a cop car from 10 feet

The trick that bozos have no idea what speed they're doing.

If you ain't a ding-a-ling or bozo you should be right...<_<

Enjoy riding on our roads.

[scumdog]

A quote by somebody: "police guidelines prevented officers from enforcing speed limits within 250 metres of a speed limit drop" –

Oh no they don't - rely on that being a hard and fast rule at your peril....

[zippy]

You're welcome to stick your finger up your own arse, but why stick it up at a speed camera. somewhere there'll be a pile of photos of fuckwits like you with their fingers 'up' and they'll use these to legislate front number plates I'm thinking...

What are you 11? Tame it down with the swearing and so forth when someone asks a question with a bit of light humour thrown in, i thought i left people that take life(and forum posts) too seriously when i left the UK to return back to NZ last month, Fridays over so try and relax for the weekend, you obviously need a good ride out to burn of the working weeks stress ..:blink:

[zippy]

Yes, they have old vans with cameras inside, and the odd station wagon too. Their unmarked cars can be just about any newish car, certainly not restricted to just fords and holdens. Patrol cars with radar often use what they call "instant on" which means they see you and press the button and it zaps on and zaps you. As far as I'm aware radar detectors are not much good against this technique.
Personally I find it all just a bit too stressful riding with eyes on stalks these days and can not be bothered speeding on state highways, main roads etc.

Yeah your right with the radars as far as i understood them as soon as the radar detectors is ringing in your ears there reading is already on its way back to there car i believe.

[Scuba_Steve]

A quote by somebody: "police guidelines prevented officers from enforcing speed limits within 250 metres of a speed limit drop" –

Oh no they don't - rely on that being a hard and fast rule at your peril....

Think it's been established that procedures like these are only used when it's in the gangs favor

[Ocean1]

In the interests of road safety less time spent on wrong side of the road the better unfortunately doesn't wash with boys in blue.

Last weekend I was half way past a furniture truck when the bastard pulled over into my lane. I could have braked, but you sacrifice a lot of manuverability under full picks, so down two gears and full monty seemed best. About five seconds later I was clear... and a HP car went by the other way, flashing it's lights at me. Looked down: 160.

If the cop was on my side I was gone for all money, yet I can't think of a legal response that would be as safe in that circumstance.

[Dodgy_Matt]

A quote by somebody - Wellington's road policing manager, Inspector Peter Baird said. : "police guidelines prevented officers from enforcing speed limits within 250 metres of a speed limit drop" –

Oh no they don't - rely on that being a hard and fast rule at your peril....

Fixed that for you ...

[Berries]

Any other things i need to be aware of, i am assuming its still ford xrs and holdens they are using for undercover vehicles?
Hmm. Try a green Subaru station wagon. DAMHIK


Last weekend I was half way past a furniture truck when the bastard pulled over into my lane. I could have braked, but you sacrifice a lot of manuverability under full picks, so down two gears and full monty seemed best. About five seconds later I was clear... and a HP car went by the other way, flashing it's lights at me. Looked down: 160.
Did he turn round?

[scumdog]

Fixed that for you ...

Inspector Peter Baird was on KB???:shit::blink:

[roogazza]

Inspector Peter Baird was on KB???:shit::blink:

Shark in the harbour ? Remember those days ? or was it a bit far back ?
I recall one Insp we had up here in the mid seventies, called himself 'Purple Seven' ! I kid you not. lol.

[Ocean1]

Did he turn round?

No. There was several kilometers of wrb seperating us. By about two feet.

[MSTRS]

A quote by somebody: "police guidelines prevented officers from enforcing speed limits within 250 metres of a speed limit drop" –

Oh no they don't - rely on that being a hard and fast rule at your peril....

Persactly...
hXc got pinged 50m inside a 50 zone (from a 100 zone) by a cop hiding in the flax bushes within 100m of said speed sign.

[cs363]

A quote by somebody: "police guidelines prevented officers from enforcing speed limits within 250 metres of a speed limit drop" –

Oh no they don't - rely on that being a hard and fast rule at your peril....


Persactly...
hXc got pinged 50m inside a 50 zone (from a 100 zone) by a cop hiding in the flax bushes within 100m of said speed sign.

So, assuming that the transgression is not too great and there are no mitigating circumstances such as road workers etc., in the vicinity, would a ticket issued in contravention of this guideline be defensible?
(I'm guessing the answer is no seeing as the rules only seem to work in one direction, but it would be interesting to know)

[MSTRS]

He was pinged for 61kph, there were no roadworks or schools in the vicinity, 2 mates following him had to take evasive action when the cop U-turned between them (sound familiar???) and a letter written included a quote of that particular guideline - but it did no good.
He lost all respect for cops as a result of that bit of bullshit.

[scumdog]

He lost all respect for cops as a result of that bit of bullshit.

Yep, every single one of us is out there constantly writing tickets flat out for lower end speeds...


And that's why I also have no respect for any motorcyclists after catching one doing 99 in a 50 area and yet another doing 75 in a 50, both MILES from the nearest higher speed area...both events were years ago but that don't matter :shifty:

[MSTRS]

Yep, every single one of us is out there constantly writing tickets flat out for lower end speeds...


And that's why I also have no respect for any motorcyclists after catching one doing 99 in a 50 area and yet another doing 75 in a 50, both MILES from the nearest higher speed area...both events were years ago but that don't matter :shifty:

One 'bad' experience with the uniform is enough. Different story if the speed had been as you mention...

[bsasuper]

Yep, every single one of us is out there constantly writing tickets flat out for lower end speeds...


And that's why I also have no respect for any motorcyclists after catching one doing 99 in a 50 area and yet another doing 75 in a 50, both MILES from the nearest higher speed area...both events were years ago but that don't matter :shifty:

Works both ways though, I was asked to help a officer when he was struggling to hold down a person, ahh no thanks officer...the event was years ago but that dont matter:shifty:

[XP@]

He was pinged for 61kph, there were no roadworks or schools in the vicinity, 2 mates following him had to take evasive action when the cop U-turned between them (sound familiar???) and a letter written included a quote of that particular guideline - but it did no good.
He lost all respect for cops as a result of that bit of bullshit.

Respect for cops & the laws of physics - but not tax collectors & their rules.

[spinergy]

When overtaking it is quite easy to compaire the cost of a speeding ticket against being in a head on and in that situation getting a speeding ticket for a safe high speed overtake is cheap.

As opposed to taking a breath and waiting a while for a safer place to pass...

[davereid]

Works both ways though, I was asked to help a officer when he was struggling to hold down a person, ahh no thanks officer...the event was years ago but that dont matter:shifty:

Yeah, my brother in law is a cop. He said to me "Dave, if you saw me getting a hiding would you stop and help ?"

I said "Nah, you'd probably recognise me"

[willytheekid]

Yeah, my brother in law is a cop. He said to me "Dave, if you saw me getting a hiding would you stop and help ?"

I said "Nah, you'd probably recognise me"

:killingme

I had a couple of cops get into trouble across the road from my Bar in central ChCh...my door man and I HAD to run over and help...three gutless bastards had jumped a female officer and a cop we knew and liked.
Needless to say...it was ALL ON!...pieces of shit didn't see it coming :angry:
The result....cops OK...two guys knocked the $#@# out by my doorman.....and the third got put "through" cash converters main window(and had three ribs broken and his wind pipe crushed in the process)......but being a wee small guy.....it wasn't me!.....honest!:innocent: (my poor doorman got blamed for the damages lol)

If I see a cop in trouble....Im gonna stop & help!
-I really don't mind sharing 12yrs dedicated training with scum...besides...Im just a weak small guy your honor....I must have got lucky :innocent:

[rastuscat]

Here's a tip it took me years to develop. I've realised that the bloody sneaky cops have a devious plan in regard to enforcing speed. Bastards.

They wait until someone is exceeding the limit, then they write a ticket. Cunning, sneaky, devious bastards.

Can you believe that? No wonder we all think justice is dead.

:facepalm:

[DR650gary]

Here's a tip it took me years to develop. I've realised that the bloody sneaky cops have a devious plan in regard to enforcing speed. Bastards.

They wait until someone is exceeding the limit, then they write a ticket. Cunning, sneaky, devious bastards.

Can you believe that? No wonder we all think justice is dead.

:facepalm:

But what was the Tip? :clap:

[jafar]

But what was the Tip? :clap:

The tip is ' don't get caught' :lol:

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://images.cafepress.com/image/33716709_400x400.jpg">

-Indy

[imdying]

Yeah, my brother in law is a cop. He said to me "Dave, if you saw me getting a hiding would you stop and help ?"

I said "Nah, you'd probably recognise me":killingme Ahahaahahah

[QUOTE=willytheekid;1130187377]IIf I see a cop in trouble....Im gonna stop & help!/QUOTE]Helping a cop getting the bash? Depends on if my help would make a difference. If it's half a dozen big coons on 1 poor copper, then I have to say I'd hang back and ring 111 for an ambulance and do my best to retain as much knowledge useful to putting the pricks in jail. Seems little point having a situation where there are now two fucked up units and nobody to ring the ambulance. I've told my friends to do the same if I'm ever in a brawl. I'd rather they saw me into a meat wagon than get flattened themselves out of some sort of misplaced loyalty.

[rastuscat]

The tip is ' don't get caught' :lol:

Your tip is a development of mine. You won't get caught speeding if you don't speed.

New post, same old answer.

:cool:

[willytheekid]

IIf I see a cop in trouble....Im gonna stop & help!/QUOTE]Helping a cop getting the bash? Depends on if my help would make a difference. If it's half a dozen big coons on 1 poor copper, then I have to say I'd hang back and ring 111 for an ambulance and do my best to retain as much knowledge useful to putting the pricks in jail. Seems little point having a situation where there are now two fucked up units and nobody to ring the ambulance. I've told my friends to do the same if I'm ever in a brawl. I'd rather they saw me into a meat wagon than get flattened themselves out of some sort of misplaced loyalty.

I certainly wouldn't go diving in either (in those circumstances)....like you I would ring 111....THEN I would dive in to help the poor cop.
I just couldn't stand back and watch the poor bugger get beaten or killed and know I did nothing to try and help.

I hate violence & fighting etc...but I will always try to help someone in need....even if I get another* arse kicking....or worse!:(
...after all, getting them locked up doesn't bring back someones loved one when there killed in a pointless fight by a bunch of cowards!

*no-wonder why huh.:weird:

[Viscount Montgomery]

wHEN YOU'RE GETTING YOUR HEAD KICKED IN By morons the last thing you want to sEE IS SOME DODO FUCKER STANDING 50 METRES AWAY DOING NOTHING BUT DIALLING 111 LIKE THEY'RE DOING YOU A BIG FAVOUR, JUST GIVE THE COPS A FUCKING SIX-GUN ON EACH HIP AND NO ONE Will need to worry

[Shadowjack]

Here's a tip it took me years to develop. I've realised that the bloody sneaky cops have a devious plan in regard to enforcing speed. Bastards. They wait until someone is exceeding the limit, then they write a ticket. Cunning, sneaky, devious bastards. Can you believe that? No wonder we all think justice is dead. :facepalm:

I thought to myself, talk about stating the bleeding obvious....
...and realised :doh:that it obviously wasn't so bleeding obvious.

[rastuscat]

I thought to myself, talk about stating the bleeding obvious....
...and realised :doh:that it obviously wasn't so bleeding obvious.

You were obviously oblivious.

:shit:

[Smifffy]

What are you 11? Tame it down with the swearing and so forth when someone asks a question with a bit of light humour thrown in, i thought i left people that take life(and forum posts) too seriously when i left the UK to return back to NZ last month, Fridays over so try and relax for the weekend, you obviously need a good ride out to burn of the working weeks stress ..:blink:

I think the juvenile one is the one with the "ooh look at me I just got back from pomgolia and I have an attitude and a gixxer let's all be squids and show the popo how staunch we are by flipping off camera vans."

Squids and dickheads have cost the rest of us a fair bit of coin and some unwarranted attention lately.

If you are going to ride like a cock, when (not if) you do get pinged or flattened, don't expect a lot of sympathy.

If you just got a burst of enthusiasm by joining a new forum, and actually ride not like a cock, then welcome aboard and I look forward to riding with you sometime.

[jafar]

Your tip is a development of mine. You won't get caught speeding if you don't speed.

New post, same old answer.

:cool:

I didn't say it was original

[=cJ=]

wHEN YOU'RE GETTING YOUR HEAD KICKED IN By morons the last thing you want to sEE IS SOME DODO FUCKER STANDING 50 METRES AWAY DOING NOTHING BUT DIALLING 111 LIKE THEY'RE DOING YOU A BIG FAVOUR, JUST GIVE THE COPS A FUCKING SIX-GUN ON EACH HIP AND NO ONE Will need to worry

Hmm, how about we compromise and give them a couple of 20'000 volt tazers, that way there's no nasty "oops you're dead" moments?

There's a couple of cops I know I wouldn't hesitate to try and wade in and help them out if I had to (I'dprobably just end up a casulty, but I can't stand by).

Regarding the original post, I'm not sure I'd get the TPX, the earpiece is a pain in the neck as it's got a pretty short battery life. The detector seems OK, though it's not the best on the market by a long shot. The TPX wiring loom and mount is fantastic however, makes installation a piece of cake.

However, as has been mentioned already, if the cop just flicks his radar on you're pretty much stuffed. I reckon a detector will save your ass if you're not excessivly speeding, but then you have to think is is worth shelling out the coin for an extra 10km/hr or so?

[c4.]

"i have held a clean licence for 14 years but i am picking up a gixer 1000 this weekend and want to keep it that way"

Advice it from 1 Gixxer owner to another, take it to the track!
If you really want to tool your super bike up to its potential, do it in the environment it was originally designed for.
No popo, like minded individuals all going in the same (mostly) direction, safety and ambos on hand.
The track day fee will be a fraction of a traffic 'in'fraction, you'll have a ball and for my own experience, you'll most likely feel a lot less like speeding on the public roads.
IMHO:cool:

[maxlev]

"Pushing"

Where an unmarked patrol car follows another vehicle extremely close.
Vehicle being followed might not be speeding, but natural reaction is to increase speed.

Happened to me at Puhoi. Mufti Falcon would have been 2 metres behind my number plate at open road speed.
But I was aware of this antic, so flashed brake light a few times.
Revenue gather eventually slowed, U turned and head back toward Warkworth.

Discussed this with high rank Plod friend, who confirmed this was dangerous driving, but if I had no witnesses, I would be fobbed off if I complained.

[SMOKEU]

I find it hard enough to stick to under the 100kmh speed limit on a good road with my 250, can't imagine how hard it must be on a big sports bike.

[FJRider]

I find it hard enough to stick to under the 100kmh speed limit on a good road with my 250, can't imagine how hard it must be on a big sports bike.

Fail to keep under the limit a few more times ... and you may never know ...

It's better your licence goes ... than YOU do ...

[MSTRS]

I find it hard enough to stick to under the 100kmh speed limit on a good road with my 250, can't imagine how hard it must be on a big sports bike.

It's easy. We simply disconnect all but one plug lead. And stay in first gear.

[Shadowjack]

I find it hard enough to stick to under the 100kmh speed limit on a good road with my 250, can't imagine how hard it must be on a big sports bike.

Post #22 refers.....again.

[Indiana_Jones]

"Pushing"

Where an unmarked patrol car follows another vehicle extremely close.
Vehicle being followed might not be speeding, but natural reaction is to increase speed.

Happened to me at Puhoi. Mufti Falcon would have been 2 metres behind my number plate at open road speed.
But I was aware of this antic, so flashed brake light a few times.
Revenue gather eventually slowed, U turned and head back toward Warkworth.

Discussed this with high rank Plod friend, who confirmed this was dangerous driving, but if I had no witnesses, I would be fobbed off if I complained.

Sounds like border-line entrapment to me.

Like those rumors/stories that go around of mufti 'boy racer' cars egging on people to race.

-Indy

[Bikemad]

:killingme Ahahaahahah

[QUOTE=willytheekid;1130187377]IIf I see a cop in trouble....Im gonna stop & help!/QUOTE]Helping a cop getting the bash? Depends on if my help would make a difference. If it's half a dozen big coons on 1 poor copper, then I have to say I'd hang back and ring 111 for an ambulance and do my best to retain as much knowledge useful to putting the pricks in jail. Seems little point having a situation where there are now two fucked up units and nobody to ring the ambulance. I've told my friends to do the same if I'm ever in a brawl. I'd rather they saw me into a meat wagon than get flattened themselves out of some sort of misplaced loyalty.

now come on.........we all know you have no friends