Problems on our roads - with effwits like this.

[scumdog]

A driver caught drink driving twice in the same night told Rotorua police: "I didn't kill anyone so what's the problem?''

The driver was stopped about 8.30pm on Sunday at a checkpoint on Lake Rd in Rotorua and gave a breath alcohol reading of 960 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath. The adult limit is 400mcg.

Senior Sergeant Denton Grimes of the Rotorua police said the man told officers he had driven from the other side of the city "no problem''.

He had his licence suspended on the spot for 28 days because his reading was more than 600 mcg.

The man was caught again more than three hours later at another checkpoint driving another car. He gave a reading of 757mcg and told police: "I didn't kill anyone so what's the problem?''.

WHY oh why should guys like this not have their eyes gouged out?:shit::angry:

I for one don't think he should be given the chance to do this yet again.:no:

[liljegren]

Welcome to soft cock New Zealand. People care more about a fucking penguin than kids in dryers.

[steve_t]

Is that guy in jail? He obviously "just doesn't get it"



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[tigertim20]

vigilante justice time?

[yungatart]

A 9 mm heamorrhage is a cheap solution!

[Pussy]

Scummy... you guys should ALL have a Glock, and use it on wankers like that recidivist to "help you with your enquiries"......

[Brett]

Jail time should be imposed IMO, that has got to be worth 6 months, needs to be enough to make him think twice...or cleaning the public toilets on say Stewart Island with nothing but a tooth brush and a leaky tent to sleep in for a few years.

[pzkpfw]

Could give him more to drink, right there at the side of the road. Make it his own choice, of course.

The Amy Winehouse solution.


More seriously - yeah, that should already be time in jail. Like they do in Norway.


(I gotta admit the OP made me think a little about my own attitude to my own "tollerance" level over the open-road speed limit.)

[tigertim20]

Dont panic guy, they justice system will see that he gets done good and properly.
80 hours community work and a $400 fine will really make him think about his actions . . .

[oldrider]

Dont panic guy, they justice system will see that he gets done good and properly.
80 hours community work and a $400 fine will really make him think about his actions . . .

C'mon, there is no Judge in New Zealand as tough as that ... it's only two times, early days yet! Some have up to 8 convictions! :wait:

[tigertim20]

: "I didn't kill anyone so what's the problem?''

:

chuck him in a cell for the night with a raging, 300lb homo.
and when he gets ass raped and tries to make a complaint just be like
'But he didnt cum in you, wheres the problem'?

[Brian d marge]

chuck him in a cell for the night with a raging, 300lb homo.
and when he gets ass raped and tries to make a complaint just be like
'But he didnt cum in you, wheres the problem'?

ohh you are awful but , I like you dear....

For some , that would be heaven....

No where he needs to go is government , Top job , lots of money , own office with bathroom

Cant be any worse that the other 98 idiots already there

Stephen

[davereid]

We could take his licence off him. But as he is not bothered by the law, he drives anyway.

We cant effectively fine him, as he is on a benefit, and will simply ask WINZ for a food allowance equal to the few rubles he pays off his fine.

We could crush his car, but chances are its not his, or it is being paid off, and the Mom and Pop investors in the finance company become the real losers, as the profit they hoped for from their investment gets gobbled up by the finance companies lawyers attempting to protect their security.

And if he is a young person, he is just as likely to flee, as he knows he is a faultless driver at speed and can easily and safely just drive away. I on the other hand am just as likely to be driving home from picking the grandkids up from school and I will carelessly get in his way.

We can put an alcohol interlock in his car. He will just get a party car without one, or will get his mate to blow in the interlock.

Or, we could actually, eventually lock repeat offenders up.

But its New Zealand. The politicians will simply add more laws with the same penalties that already don't work. We will get compulsory third party insurance, carry proof of ownership, punitive fines for not being licenced or registered, and will wring our hands when nothing changes.

[Usarka]

The driver was stopped about 8.30pm on Sunday at a checkpoint on Lake Rd in Rotorua and gave a breath alcohol reading of 960 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath. The adult limit is 400mcg.

The man was caught again more than three hours later at another checkpoint driving another car. He gave a reading of 757mcg and told police: "I didn't kill anyone so what's the problem?''.


For a start, maybe drunk people who commit an offence should spend the night in a cell rather than be let free still pissed to make the same stupid decisions.....

[Scuba_Steve]

Your right what an "effwit"! he "didn't kill anyone" & already drove "half the city" yet the cop still hassles him & takes his licence.
I'm with you, the cop needs his badge revoked so he can't do this to anyone again! Bloody "effwit"


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[Spearfish]

its interesting how a driver can fail the first screening test,
then the second roadside test,
then go blow the evidential test and fail,
ask for blood and fail,
then be let off because of some insignificant little detail that had nothing do do with the fact they were caught and failed every test known to common sense.

[willytheekid]

WHY oh why should guys like this not have their eyes gouged out?:shit::angry:

I for one don't think he should be given the chance to do this yet again.:no:

Totally agree...but the below posts sum it up....what IS the answer?


C'mon, there is no Judge in New Zealand as tough as that ... it's only two times, early days yet! Some have up to 8 convictions! :wait:

Yup, scumdog and the boys do the hard work, and some slimey lawyer and softcock Judge get them back out on the streets in a couple of days to re-offend...again!


We could take his licence off him. But as he is not bothered by the law, he drives anyway.

We cant effectively fine him, as he is on a benefit, and will simply ask WINZ for a food allowance equal to the few rubles he pays off his fine.

We could crush his car, but chances are its not his, or it is being paid off, and the Mom and Pop investors in the finance company become the real losers, as the profit they hoped for from their investment gets gobbled up by the finance companies lawyers attempting to protect their security.

And if he is a young person, he is just as likely to flee, as he knows he is a faultless driver at speed and can easily and safely just drive away. I on the other hand am just as likely to be driving home from picking the grandkids up from school and I will carelessly get in his way.

We can put an alcohol interlock in his car. He will just get a party car without one, or will get his mate to blow in the interlock.

Or, we could actually, eventually lock repeat offenders up.

But its New Zealand. The politicians will simply add more laws with the same penalties that already don't work. We will get compulsory third party insurance, carry proof of ownership, punitive fines for not being licenced or registered, and will wring our hands when nothing changes.

Fantastic and well thought out post :yes:


My 2 cents worth:
I say immediate detainment after the breath test fail...and community service...with a twist!
Everytime there is a fatal accident and the "mess" needs to be cleaned up.....give the Fireservice boys a well deserved break and the cops something to smile about....get these drink driving fucks out of bed @ 0300 in the morning, deactivate the MANDITORY tracking ankle bracelet (that bans them from ANY outlet that sells piss! and detects trace's of alcohole), and then give them a bucket of hot water & rags to clean up the "mess"
.....that way they are subjected to the REAL cost of drink driving! and hopefully the repeat exposure to blood & guts just screws them up for life!

....so sick of seeing repeat drink drivers behind the wheel

[ellipsis]

....too much piss drinking all round...went to see my grandaughter singing in the Chch School Choir Festival at CBS/Westpac Centre on wednesday night...they had the bar open...no wonder our kids are growing up, fucked up...

[avgas]

Ummm how did he get behind the wheel? Was it the same car?
Aren't they suppose to take you to detox?

Sounds more to me like the Police system of procedures failed here.
There is already a process police can take to get a driver off the road.......they failed to do so here. Grimes needs to wake up that policing is not a "spray and walk away" job.

[Bikemad]

We could take his licence off him. But as he is not bothered by the law, he drives anyway.

We cant effectively fine him, as he is on a benefit, and will simply ask WINZ for a food allowance equal to the few rubles he pays off his fine.

We could crush his car, but chances are its not his, or it is being paid off, and the Mom and Pop investors in the finance company become the real losers, as the profit they hoped for from their investment gets gobbled up by the finance companies lawyers attempting to protect their security.

And if he is a young person, he is just as likely to flee, as he knows he is a faultless driver at speed and can easily and safely just drive away. I on the other hand am just as likely to be driving home from picking the grandkids up from school and I will carelessly get in his way.

We can put an alcohol interlock in his car. He will just get a party car without one, or will get his mate to blow in the interlock.

Or, we could actually, eventually lock repeat offenders up.

But its New Zealand. The politicians will simply add more laws with the same penalties that already don't work. We will get compulsory third party insurance, carry proof of ownership, punitive fines for not being licenced or registered, and will wring our hands when nothing changes.

you forgot to mention the Hi Viz vest

[oneofsix]

reckon the cops need two booze buses, one for the testing and one for storing the drunks. The one for the drunks should have clear sides or just a cage so they can be seen a shamed and it be left over night parked in the street.

[Ender EnZed]

Ummm how did he get behind the wheel? Was it the same car?


The man was caught again more than three hours later at another checkpoint driving another car.

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[avgas]

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So double the limit does not mean they should be detoxed?

[Ender EnZed]

So double the limit does not mean they should be detoxed?

You only need to get sober enough to walk and not vomit on yourself before getting let out.

[imdying]

Well, he didn't kill anyone, did he? What's next, locking up people because they might shoot somebody? :blink:

[avgas]

Well, he didn't kill anyone, did he? What's next, locking up people because they might shoot somebody? :blink:
Actually they can lock you up for simply being unbalanced and owning a firearm.......not even holding it.

[imdying]

Actually they can lock you up for simply being unbalanced and owning a firearm.......not even holding it.Next it'll be niggers that want to breed and asians that want to own cars?

[tigertim20]

Next it'll be niggers that want to breed and asians that want to own cars?

Don't get started man, I hear women already got the right to vote for fuck sakes:facepalm:

[Big Dave]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/drug-driving-blitz-nets-22-drivers-20111028-1mn6i.html

[Edbear]

These days there is absolutely no excuse for drink-driving and any person caught should automatically lose their licence for 28 days on first offense. Repeat offenders automatically 28 days in jail and 12mths loss of licence; racidivist offenders increasing jail time until they get the message along with permanent loss of licence.

Same for driving under the influence of illicit drugs.

Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming, right..? :bye:

[Usarka]

Same for driving under the influence of illicit drugs.


Why did you add the word illicit? Do you think it is ok to use prescription drugs that negatively affect your reactions and alertness and then drive?

[Edbear]

Why did you add the word illicit? Do you think it is ok to use prescription drugs that negatively affect your reactions and alertness and then drive?

That's not quite as simple to police, though. Everyone should exercise intelligence with regard to their fitness to drive, but legal drugs would open a can of worms as the warnings are not specific enough to stand up in court. If it was proven that a prescription drug was behind an accident, I guess they could use the charge of careless use, as they can with any distraction including fatigue.

Prescription drugs generally have different side effects for different people and it would require legislation based on scientific evidence that a particular drug has a particular effect, as is the case with illegal drugs which do have a known and predictable effect on people, it can only be argued how much it affects individuals, not the nature of the effect.

That's why the PTB are having difficulty with legislation as to the level of intoxication and have to resort to roadside testing to ascertain someone's fitness to drive. I'd be happy for anyone to be tested thusly regardless of what they have taken and treated the same.

[tigertim20]

These days there is absolutely no excuse for drink-driving and any person caught should automatically lose their licence for 28 days on first offense. Repeat offenders automatically 28 days in jail and 12mths loss of licence; racidivist offenders increasing jail time until they get the message along with permanent loss of licence.

Same for driving under the influence of illicit drugs.

Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming, right..? :bye:

but thats not fair, how will he be able to right his wrongs and become a contributing member of society after he has been rehabilitated, if he cant have a car to drive to jobs and stuff?

^^this attitude from do-gooder types is the reason that will never happen.
NZ doesnt want to accept that some people are just cunts and simply WONT, or dont WANT to be 'rehabilitated'

[scumdog]

Why did you add the word illicit? Do you think it is ok to use prescription drugs that negatively affect your reactions and alertness and then drive?

NORMALLY they have instructions re driving/operating machinery after taking them

Haven't seen too many illicit drugs with the same.

[98tls]

Suck it up T,thing is its only going to get worse.When the "unsmackables" come of age she will be all on.:facepalm:Dont fret for them though theres any ever growing army of do gooders massing to ensure they never understand right from wrong.

[tigertim20]

Suck it up T,thing is its only going to get worse.When the "unsmackables" come of age she will be all on.:facepalm:Dont fret for them though theres any ever growing army of do gooders massing to ensure they never understand right from wrong.

unsmackables? - HA!.
wait till THEY have children, theyll have gone their whole lives doing what they want and nobody stopping them. how are they gonna deal with children who misbehave and challenge them?
Theyre gonna beat the fuck out of them!!
Win.

[Edbear]

but thats not fair, how will he be able to right his wrongs and become a contributing member of society after he has been rehabilitated, if he cant have a car to drive to jobs and stuff?

^^this attitude from do-gooder types is the reason that will never happen.
NZ doesnt want to accept that some people are just cunts and simply WONT, or dont WANT to be 'rehabilitated'

That's the real issue, not everyone drives after drinking, and it is the OP that really gets everyone going. Some make a mistake or a error of judgement and the short sharp sentemce I proposed would sort them out. By the time they are recidivist, nothing will stop them except physically preventing them getting behind the wheel.


NORMALLY they have instructions re driving/operating machinery after taking them

Haven't seen too many illicit drugs with the same.

Nor bottles of booze, either, but that doesn't alter the fact that everyone knows that drink/drug driving is illegal if not dangerous. NO excuses!

[Brian d marge]

That's the real issue, not everyone drives after drinking, and it is the OP that really gets everyone going. Some make a mistake or a error of judgement and the short sharp sentemce I proposed would sort them out. By the time they are recidivist, nothing will stop them except physically preventing them getting behind the wheel.



Nor bottles of booze, either, but that doesn't alter the fact that everyone knows that drink/drug driving is illegal if not dangerous. NO excuses!
true , no excuses, but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Scotland yard found out that , people don't care about being caught , just the chances of being caught , and add to that a society from which we produced and reap the rewards of ( Mexican five families , book one should read ) then stands to reason you may get-the vocational ( thank you spell check for once you were right !!) drop kick ,

in greenhouse created by one self , it pays not to throw stones , too far

Stephen

[Edbear]

true , no excuses, but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Scotland yard found out that , people don't care about being caught , just the chances of being caught , and add to that a society from which we produced and reap the rewards of ( Mexican five families , book one should read ) then stands to reason you may get-the vocational ( thank you spell check for once you were right !!) drop kick ,

in greenhouse created by one self , it pays not to throw stones , too far

Stephen

Hence the three steps to my proposal.

[Pussy]

Hence the three steps to my proposal.

Touchy feely do-gooder bullshit doesn't work!

[Edbear]

Touchy feely do-gooder bullshit doesn't work!

Touchy feely? Did you actually read my post?

These days there is absolutely no excuse for drink-driving and any person caught should automatically lose their licence for 28 days on first offense. Repeat offenders automatically 28 days in jail and 12mths loss of licence; racidivist offenders increasing jail time until they get the message along with permanent loss of licence.

Same for driving under the influence of illicit drugs.

[Brian d marge]

Touchy feely? Did you actually read my post?

These days there is absolutely no excuse for drink-driving and any person caught should automatically lose their licence for 28 days on first offense. Repeat offenders automatically 28 days in jail and 12mths loss of licence; racidivist offenders increasing jail time until they get the message along with permanent loss of licence.

Same for driving under the influence of illicit drugs.

Actually I must admit I missed it , but went back to have another look., yes its a good punishment , but people don't take into consideration the punishment , only the chances of getting caught ( according to Scotland yard in the last few pages of their history of...)

Also , you need to create an environment in which people make their own rules or judgment based on erroneous , influences ( ie being a have not , and not giving a shit . as no one gives a shit about me so why should I care about them...sort of thing )

you do that by economics ,

Having created these 2 environments , you then park the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff and start , jailing , cleaning up , or hanging a few ....

Works a treat ( see england for proof of this )

While you wont reduce stupidity , you can reduce it , by changing peoples environments and upbringings


IMHO

Stephen

then you NAIL EM UP

[PrincessBandit]

A driver caught drink driving twice in the same night told Rotorua police: "I didn't kill anyone so what's the problem?''
............The man was caught again more than three hours later at another checkpoint driving another car. He gave a reading of 757mcg and told police: "I didn't kill anyone so what's the problem?''.


Been the excuse of all ages past and to come: "no-one got hurt so what's the problem" nothing new here.



unsmackables? - HA!.
wait till THEY have children, theyll have gone their whole lives doing what they want and nobody stopping them. how are they gonna deal with children who misbehave and challenge them?
Theyre gonna beat the fuck out of them!!
Win.
And that is what swings and roundabouts are all about. They reckon it takes 3 generations to make and lose money: one to work their arses off to make it, the next to reap the benefits of what their parents scrimped and saved for, the third to not appreciate it and blow it all. Same with discipline - parents who were brought up with harsh punishments will often go to the other extreme with their kids as they don't want them to suffer as they did (talking about generally caring parents here, who do love their kids not see them as a burden to bear through life); by the time their kids have children they are so used to being allowed to do whatever they like that all of a sudden a reversal in the punishment stakes is required to bring discipline back on track.