WOF and pillion footpegs?

[pc220]

Somewhere somehow I have lost one of the pillion footpegs off my bike:facepalm:. Wof is due, Is it a requirement to have pillion footpegs to get a wof ?

[FJRider]

YES ... two seats ... must have two sets of footrests

[Maha]

YES ... two seats ... must have two sets of footrests

What if your pillion is an amputee?...:corn:

[Indiana_Jones]

YES ... two seats ... must have two sets of footrests

+1

Have a single seat handy? pop that on and you should be ok ;)

-Indy

[pc220]

Thanks Indy. Thought that was the case. Sent the mrs into the local Suzuki dealer yesterday, with all the bike details and description of what I needed. They had no idea where to get one:facepalm:. Yet in 5 minutes I could order one from the US.

[pzkpfw]

Is there a standard for footpegs? Do they have to fold? Do they need to be original equipment to pass WOF?

... wondering if you could just bang a long bolt in there to pass WOF.

(Technically it'd have to stay there (if it worked at all) as bike has to be at WOF standard all the time, not just when it got the sticker.)

[FJRider]

What if your pillion is an amputee?...:corn:

I have ridden legless ... but thats another story ... :facepalm:

STILL NEED FOOTRESTS ... :yes:

[FJRider]

Is there a standard for footpegs? Do they have to fold? Do they need to be original equipment to pass WOF?

... wondering if you could just bang a long bolt in there to pass WOF.

(Technically it'd have to stay there (if it worked at all) as bike has to be at WOF standard all the time, not just when it got the sticker.)

That would be up to the tester ... it's HIS certification ticket on the line ... so I would say NO ....

[Sable]

He might pass it if you're nice and explain the situation

[FJRider]

He might pass it if you're nice and explain the situation

Yeah ... right ...

And a cop stops you down the road for a chat ... notices NEW WOF (and missing footrest) Pings YOU for not having a bike up to WOF standard ... and pings the WOF issuer for passing it ... HE LOSES HIS WOF CERTIFICATION ....

[Sable]

Yeah ... right ...

And a cop stops you down the road for a chat ... notices NEW WOF (and missing footrest) Pings YOU for not having a bike up to WOF standard ... and pings the WOF issuer for passing it ... HE LOSES HIS WOF CERTIFICATION ....

Notice the keyword MIGHT dickhead? I've had bikes passed with steel showing on the tyre after showing the new unfitted tyre, bikes passed with blown bulbs on the condition I replace it immediately, passed with bent handlebars etc. You're obviously such an expert on human behaviour and social interaction, why don't you try building a working relationship with a WOF tester? It's not impossible.

[scumdog]

He might pass it if you're nice and explain the situation

And then he might not.

After all, how hard is it to get a proper foot-peg???

[FJRider]

Notice the keyword MIGHT dickhead? I've had bikes passed with steel showing on the tyre after showing the new unfitted tyre, bikes passed with blown bulbs on the condition I replace it immediately, passed with bent handlebars etc. You're obviously such an expert on human behaviour and social interaction, why don't you try building a working relationship with a WOF tester? It's not impossible.

Vehicles (bikes) have been failed for less ... And a "working relationship" with the tester helps you understand WHY they failed you. Not just because they're picky pricks (although they may well be).
As for bikes of mine getting passed as you describe ... I CAN give similar examples too. That is THEIR choice, I was happy they did ... but certainly didn't get shitty and moan on KB, if on another occasion ... they FAIL me ... YOU seem like petty minded dip-stick that would though ...

Considering the cost and time, getting the paperwork done to get certification/licence for WOF testing ... few are willing to risk losing it.

Good luck those of you who try.

[Gremlin]

YES ... two seats ... must have two sets of footrests
Wot e sed. If your bike has the capacity to seat someone, then it must have foot rests for them.

Either get another pillion peg, or get a cowl, then there is only space for one person to sit.

[FJRider]

Wot e sed. If your bike has the capacity to seat someone, then it must have foot rests for them.

Either get another pillion peg, or get a cowl, then there is only space for one person to sit.

Some testers get really pedantic ... ie: The bike is registered as seating TWO ... REGARDLESS of only being/having a single seat fitted.

[Gremlin]

Some testers get really pedantic ... ie: The bike is registered as seating TWO ... REGARDLESS of only being/having a single seat fitted.
mmm, I can't comment from personal experience, but I believe the wording is something around if it has the capability to seat someone there, foot pegs must be provisioned. If you're worrying OP, check the wording. I've corrected testers before. Humans make mistakes.

[FJRider]

I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.

[quickbuck]

I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.

WTF????
If there is no seat, nobody's going to use the pegs... and they will only use them when he puts the seat back on.
Not really like Accessory lamps at all, as accessory lamps perform a function all by themselves. Just like the pegs do.
I could understand it if the pegs were there but didn't actually fold, or one was missing, then he would have cause to fail the bike.

[Gremlin]

Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.
Don't want to take OT, but I believe they can be ignored if disabled, if they don't comply. ie, lights comprising of LEDs must have 75% operational. Dunno, but pretty sure I've read that somewhere. At the same time tho, if lights don't comply with lighting laws, then they mustn't be there (as with my bosses bike however, we left the brackets in place, just took the lights off :lol:)

[FJRider]

WTF????
If there is no seat, nobody's going to use the pegs... and they will only use them when he puts the seat back on.
Not really like Accessory lamps at all, as accessory lamps perform a function all by themselves. Just like the pegs do.


As for the lamps ... even if only the base of the lamp is there (no lense's or an electrical connection) It will fail.
I guess he was thinking if you had a seat ... footpegs are needed.
If you have footpegs ... a SEAT is needed.

I DO know he failed. (he put the seat back on and it passed ... funny that)

[Sable]

but certainly didn't get shitty and moan on KB, if on another occasion ... they FAIL me ... YOU seem like petty minded dip-stick that would though ...
What do you base that on? You're being the bitch here, not me.

[FJRider]

What do you base that on? You're being the bitch here, not me.

Remember THIS ... :killingme


Don't mess with minimum wage employees. We are angry, petty people.

:finger:

[Sable]

:baby: :whocares:

[Subike]

I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.

three wof tests with singe seat and pillion pegs, Ive never been queried.
and if you have forward mounted highway pegs, do you need a seat on the fuel tank?
Same reasoning, a pair of foot pegs must mean a seat for the pillion who will use them.
Im sure a few harely riders would not mind a young lady using their highway pegs as they perch on the tank
Oysters anyone????

[Bikemad]

Kippers!!!!!

[Renegade]

got my last car wof given to me and told to fit new wiper blades, he said it was a fail but let me off as long as i did it

[Curious_George]

I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.

I had a wooden box fitted in place of the back seats in my Hilux. Mounted on the original seat mounts and took up the entire back seat area - no way anyone could have sat on it (in the box maybe, but the front seats touched it and it was full width and height). I'd removed the seat belt clasps but the belts themselves were still fitted. WoF Fail. Options were either a) remove belts also, b) remove box and re-fit seats or c) leave box in place and re-fit clasps - as long as the belts that were fitted worked, it didn't matter that no one could actually sit in there!. In the end it was easiest to remove the box and re-fit the clasps (but without the seat - that wasn't important!)

[pzkpfw]

I had a wooden box fitted in place of the back seats in my Hilux. Mounted on the original seat mounts and took up the entire back seat area - no way anyone could have sat on it (in the box maybe, but the front seats touched it and it was full width and height). I'd removed the seat belt clasps but the belts themselves were still fitted. WoF Fail. Options were either a) remove belts also, b) remove box and re-fit seats or c) leave box in place and re-fit clasps - as long as the belts that were fitted worked, it didn't matter that no one could actually sit in there!. In the end it was easiest to remove the box and re-fit the clasps (but without the seat - that wasn't important!)

Reminds me of my Fathers' old Landy. He added seat belts himself - it was old enough it didn't have to have them. Then one day got a ticket for not wearing his seat belt. Makes sense, I guess, but he still felt a bit annoyed to be charged for not wearing something that didn't have to be there in the first place...

[Howie]

All the requirements for WOF's can be found on This page (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-cert-wof-only/virm-in-service-cert-wof-only-v4a3.html#motorcycles), and downloaded as pdf files. Pillion footrests are a requirement if there is seating provided as previously stated

[FJRider]

Reminds me of my Fathers' old Landy. He added seat belts himself - it was old enough it didn't have to have them. Then one day got a ticket for not wearing his seat belt. Makes sense, I guess, but he still felt a bit annoyed to be charged for not wearing something that didn't have to be there in the first place...

IF FITTED ... they must be ... worn/WORK ...

This applies to most, if not ALL items on a vehicle