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el chupacabra
12th December 2011, 15:16
So i am going to be racing my rg 150 in 2012, and am wondering how much of an advantage better quality tyres will give me?

currently using the irc 90/90 17 front and 110/80 vee rubber rear. (cheap tyres)

At the moment (3rd trackday) i am doing a 1:37 around manfeild
Thanks in advance :banana:

Clivoris
12th December 2011, 16:50
The fastest guy at the winter series was on Heidenaus. Have a chat to alexhockly@gmail.com. Ridelife or raceyrider on here. Decent tyres will make a difference as you get closer to the ragged edge, but especially when the track is wet. A lot of guys run bridgestone bt39s and they are a good tyre. The Heidenaus are a sportier compound, work at least as well in the dry and work heaps better in the wet. IMHO.

Billy
12th December 2011, 17:51
The fastest guy at the winter series was on Heidenaus. Have a chat to alexhockly@gmail.com. Ridelife or raceyrider on here. Decent tyres will make a difference as you get closer to the ragged edge, but especially when the track is wet. A lot of guys run bridgestone bt39s and they are a good tyre. The Heidenaus are a sportier compound, work at least as well in the dry and work heaps better in the wet. IMHO.



Sorry Clive,I was the fastest at Manfeild,On Bridgestones and at round 1,Nothing wrong with the Heidenaus either though and are probably the pick of the bunch in the wet and Alex is a top bloke who will look after whoever he sells his product to,Not sure that you'd get near the lap record on them though.

RideLife
12th December 2011, 18:27
Awe Billy, .... Stop it,,, Before it turns into a Love Fest! :drinknsin

>Not sure that you'd get near the lap record on them though.

That sounds like a Challenge wouldn't ya say Clive?

So how about this then... $100 Bonus Prize Money to Anyone that can Break the Track Lap record on Heidenau's.

Any class. Any Race series (using mylaps timing). On Any of NZ main race tracks. at Any time in 2012.

Signed: Racey Rider
:corn:

RideLife
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CHOPPA
12th December 2011, 18:50
Awe Billy, .... Stop it,,, Before it turns into a Love Fest! :drinknsin

>Not sure that you'd get near the lap record on them though.

That sounds like a Challenge wouldn't ya say Clive?

So how about this then... $100 Bonus Prize Money to Anyone that can Break the Track Lap record on Heidenau's.

Any class. Any Race series (using mylaps timing). On Any of NZ main race tracks. at Any time in 2012.

Signed: Racey Rider
:corn:

RideLife
Motorcycle Stuff, for the Motorcycle Buff!

They got some to fit a superbike? I reckon that clubmens record is up for the taking

RideLife
12th December 2011, 19:04
If you can punt your Superbike round on a 160 rear..... Absolutely!

:corn:

Clivoris
12th December 2011, 19:22
Sorry Clive,I was the fastest at Manfeild,On Bridgestones and at round 1,Nothing wrong with the Heidenaus either though and are probably the pick of the bunch in the wet and Alex is a top bloke who will look after whoever he sells his product to,Not sure that you'd get near the lap record on them though.

My bad Billy. What I should have said was that the 2011 Actrix winter Series Streetstock winner did his best laptimes at Manfeild on Heidenaus. I didn't realise that you had lapped quicker than Tyler. :doh: I'm thinking I will have a go at round 2 PMCC on streetstock. Trying to talk Jandle Wintle into taking our other KR out as well. Smelly old men behaving badly. Are you a starter?

Billy
12th December 2011, 19:26
My bad Billy. What I should have said was that the 2011 Actrix winter Series Streetstock winner did his best laptimes at Manfeild on Heidenaus. I didn't realise that you had lapped quicker than Tyler. :doh: I'm thinking I will have a go at round 2 PMCC on streetstock. Trying to talk Jandle Wintle into taking our other KR out as well. Smelly old men behaving badly. Are you a starter?

Sadly not old china,I'll be in the South Island getting a whipping from the youngsters down there haha! Anyway wouldnt wanna get beat by you older fellas

Clivoris
12th December 2011, 20:09
That sounds like a Challenge wouldn't ya say Clive?

So how about this then... $100 Bonus Prize Money to Anyone that can Break the Track Lap record on Heidenau's.

Any class. Any Race series (using mylaps timing). On Any of NZ main race tracks. at Any time in 2012.

Signed: Racey Rider
:corn:

RideLife
Motorcycle Stuff, for the Motorcycle Buff!

That's a challenge for sure man, but it will take someone else to claim the cash. My record of taking money off you isn't the best. The OP and his mate on a KRR are getting around Manfeild pretty well and I'm keen to see how they go once they have a bit of experience.

Clivoris
12th December 2011, 20:21
Sadly not old china,I'll be in the South Island getting a whipping from the youngsters down there haha! Anyway wouldnt wanna get beat by you older fellas

Yeah Right.....

steveyb
12th December 2011, 20:45
After those three have finished their man-boy loving.....

On the KR's it seems that the Bridgestone works a bit better on the newer KRR with the wider alloy wheels and the Hidenaus work well on the KR with the narrower spoked wheels, at least according to one rider and his 'ahem' mechanic.

How that corresponds to the RG is beyond my knowledge.

RideLife
13th December 2011, 06:57
It's fair to say our Heidenau range is a bit limited in the 17" range, with the factory mainly concentrating on the 'Classic Racer' 18" 19" rubber.
They do have a good selection in the 120/70-17 and 160/60-17 range though, (Slicks / Road-Sports / Intermediate / Wet's ), and a 2.75 (80/90-17") which works well on the smaller bikes.
I've seen guys using 120's on the rear of RG150's at races, so our 120 K80 may be suitable there. (need to do some testing)

The wide 18" rim KRR issue I haven't finished sorting out yet. Need to fit a tyre to one to test profile etc.

RDjase
14th December 2011, 06:24
So i am going to be racing my rg 150 in 2012, and am wondering how much of an advantage better quality tyres will give me?

currently using the irc 90/90 17 front and 110/80 vee rubber rear. (cheap tyres)

At the moment (3rd trackday) i am doing a 1:37 around manfeild
Thanks in advance :banana:

Come to Manfeild this Saturday, Tri Series rd2. Tyler and I will be there and will have two bikes there, one with Hiendenau's and one with Bridgestones. #117 Green and silver KR150

See you there

RDjase
14th December 2011, 06:28
Awe Billy, .... Stop it,,, Before it turns into a Love Fest! :drinknsin

>Not sure that you'd get near the lap record on them though.

That sounds like a Challenge wouldn't ya say Clive?

So how about this then... $100 Bonus Prize Money to Anyone that can Break the Track Lap record on Heidenau's.

Any class. Any Race series (using mylaps timing). On Any of NZ main race tracks. at Any time in 2012.

Signed: Racey Rider
:corn:

RideLife
Motorcycle Stuff, for the Motorcycle Buff!

What is the Manfeild lap record for SS150? and Taupo track 1 and 3 if anyone knows

Billy
14th December 2011, 08:09
What is the Manfeild lap record for SS150? and Taupo track 1 and 3 if anyone knows

Manfeild is in the 1.25 sec bracket and I think Taupo track 1 is around 1.55

RDjase
14th December 2011, 09:08
Manfeild is in the 1.25 sec bracket and I think Taupo track 1 is around 1.55

Results from PMCC Rd1, race 3. A new record maybe ?

http://www.motorcyclesport.co.nz/index.aspx?ref=documents/ml/Mylaps.asp

Pos No. Name Laps Total time Diff Best time In lap Best speed
1 311 Sarah Elliot 5 9:37.246 1:53.905 2 104.297
2 117 Tyler Lincoln 5 9:40.098 2.852 1:54.289 5 103.947
3 7m Blair Mason 5 10:08.624 31.378 2:00.341 5 98.719
4 42h Aaron Hassan 5 10:17.400 40.154 2:00.089 4 98.927
5 42c Aaron Carr 5 10:23.173 45.927 2:03.034 2 96.559
6 41 Alex Hockly 5 10:26.275 49.029 2:02.960 5 96.617
7 34c Rogan Chandler 5 10:28.858 51.612 2:03.562 4 96.146
8 2 Graeme "Billy" Billington 5 10:36.869 59.623 1:59.274 5 99.603
9 103 Zane Burrell 5 10:37.582 1:00.336 2:04.370 5 95.521
10 11 Mihi Banks 5 10:38.035 1:00.789 2:03.751 5 95.999
11 34 William Dadson 5 10:44.323 1:07.077 2:06.860 5 93.647
12 58 David Dadson 5 11:09.172 1:31.926 2:11.883 4 90.080
13 7r Smanatha Richardson 4 10:14.590 1 Lap 2:31.308 4 78.515
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15:52Checkered flag @ 3.52

Billy
14th December 2011, 09:30
Results from PMCC Rd1, race 3. A new record maybe ?

http://www.motorcyclesport.co.nz/index.aspx?ref=documents/ml/Mylaps.asp

Pos No. Name Laps Total time Diff Best time In lap Best speed
1 311 Sarah Elliot 5 9:37.246 1:53.905 2 104.297
2 117 Tyler Lincoln 5 9:40.098 2.852 1:54.289 5 103.947
3 7m Blair Mason 5 10:08.624 31.378 2:00.341 5 98.719
4 42h Aaron Hassan 5 10:17.400 40.154 2:00.089 4 98.927
5 42c Aaron Carr 5 10:23.173 45.927 2:03.034 2 96.559
6 41 Alex Hockly 5 10:26.275 49.029 2:02.960 5 96.617
7 34c Rogan Chandler 5 10:28.858 51.612 2:03.562 4 96.146
8 2 Graeme "Billy" Billington 5 10:36.869 59.623 1:59.274 5 99.603
9 103 Zane Burrell 5 10:37.582 1:00.336 2:04.370 5 95.521
10 11 Mihi Banks 5 10:38.035 1:00.789 2:03.751 5 95.999
11 34 William Dadson 5 10:44.323 1:07.077 2:06.860 5 93.647
12 58 David Dadson 5 11:09.172 1:31.926 2:11.883 4 90.080
13 7r Smanatha Richardson 4 10:14.590 1 Lap 2:31.308 4 78.515
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15:52Checkered flag @ 3.52

Could well be,Dont know how or where you,d find out,Probably Tim Gibbes would be a good place to start,Although he normally states at the bottom of the timesheet if its a new record.

oyster
14th December 2011, 10:05
I'm very keen to see further alternatives for SS. The "main brand" offer only tyres that feel too big for the front and too small for the rear. As a result they degrade very quickly, and along with frequent quality problems we have, they become unpredictable (read dangerous).
For the Rg a good 80/90 for the front and a 110/90 for the rear would be brilliant. As long as the quality, grip and cost are all good!