Holiday ACC stats. Accurate?

[blackdog]

Thoughts with the rider. Heal well.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6190013/Man-injured-in-quad-bike-crash

[blackdog]

Stats. Feck. Hitcher!

[chanceyy]

fixed for ya

[NONONO]

Your point is ?

[ducatilover]

I don't get it.

:pinch:

[FJRider]

Well ... that acident ... and hundreds like it, are the main reason the ACC stat's are as they are. And as that quad rider was most likely riding an unlicenced bike (NO ACC levies paid)... not to mention, probably not wearing ANY safety gear ... the levies you (all ... well those that DID pay :lol:) paid, go to aid him ... and many such like ...

[blackdog]

Well ... that acident ... and hundreds like it, are the main reason the ACC stat's are as they are. And as that quad rider was most likely riding an unlicenced bike (NO ACC levies paid)... not to mention, probably not wearing ANY safety gear ... the levies you (all ... well those that DID pay :lol:) paid, go to aid him ... and many such like ...

Yes. Recorded as a motorcycle accident. Used to justify the rise in ACC levies.

[FJRider]

Yes. Recorded as a motorcycle accident. Used to justify the rise in ACC levies.

It gets worse ... it is also recorded as "no other vehicle involved" ... in police files ...

[Scuba_Steve]

Lies damm lies & statistics.

Stats are only ever as accurate as the agenda they're being used for wants them to be.

[bartshumandad]

I don't see any reference to this being considered a 'road' accident.
From what little I could gather from the brief article, I think the most interested party will be OSH, as this is more likely a workplace accident, (note the article specifically mentions it happened on a farm) and will be added to the 'farm workers' account.
Just my guess, I don't know anything more than what I read, but hey, lets not jump to wild conclusions on no information.
BTW any claims resulting from crashes on beaches on whatever sort of registered or unregistered bikes are likely to end up in the road account, as all NZ beaches are classed as roads AFAIK.

[FJRider]

I don't see any reference to this being considered a 'road' accident.
From what little I could gather from the brief article, I think the most interested party will be OSH, as this is more likely a workplace accident, (note the article specifically mentions it happened on a farm) and will be added to the 'farm workers' account.
Just my guess, I don't know anything more than what I read, but hey, lets not jump to wild conclusions on no information.
BTW any claims resulting from crashes on beaches on whatever sort of registered or unregistered bikes are likely to end up in the road account, as all NZ beaches are classed as roads AFAIK.

There is NO road/farm workers account. A "relationship" with an ACC employee confirmed it. (also from viewing MY OWN file :innocent:)

MOTORCYCLE accident. End of story.

[ducatilover]

There is NO road/farm workers account. A "relationship" with an ACC employee confirmed it. (also from viewing MY OWN file :innocent:)

MOTORCYCLE accident. End of story.

Is this so? I was wondering about this as farmers tend to pay a large ACC levy per employee.

[FJRider]

Is this so? I was wondering about this as farmers tend to pay a large ACC levy per employee.

As do most employers ... At best, it would be a "workplace" accident. One of the reasons a lot of landowners dont allow access for motorcyclists ... for fear any off gets a "workplace" listing, with an increased levy to go with it.


But with the link given ... that would most likely be a lifestyle block owner ... who dont pay levies.

[ducatilover]

As do most employers ... At best, it would be a "workplace" accident. One of the reasons a lot of landowners dont allow access for motorcyclists ... for fear any off gets a "workplce" listing, with an increased levy to go with it.


But with the link given ... that would most likely be a lifestyle block owner ... who dont pay levies.

I hope it doesn't get lumped with our bunch of mindless idiots then.
And I hope he recovers (I may know him, better ring some people over that way) :Police:

[FJRider]

I hope it doesn't get lumped with our bunch of mindless idiots then.


I'm afraid to tell you this ... BUT ... :yes:

[ducatilover]

I'm afraid to tell you this ... BUT ... :yes::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::face palm: They should just leave it to me to make our ACC stats look worse.

[FJRider]

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: They should just leave it to me to make our ACC stats look worse.

According to the ACC stats I saw (a few years back) ... it supprised me how often the "client" didn't have a motorcycle licence. untill I saw how many were off the legal roads ...

Motocross tracks featured often. (actually ... so did Supermarket carparks)

[Brian407]

]There is NO road/farm workers account.[/B]

MOTORCYCLE accident. End of story.

Correct, however there is No Motorcylce Account either.


ACC accounts

ACC operates five accounts. The accounts reflect where injuries occur, such as at work. Each account funds the services it provides.

The accounts are: Work Account, Earners’ Account, Non-Earners’ Account, Motor Vehicle Account, and Treatment Injury Account.

This could either be a Motor Vehicle accident, or a Work Place accident, or Both (and it does happen this way sometimes), but There's one question burnig in my mind What the fuck was someone in Ekatahuna doing on a Quad Bike just before MIDNIGHT on Christmas Eve???? apart from crashing it.

[FJRider]

... but There's one question burnig in my mind What the fuck was someone in Ekatahuna doing on a Quad Bike just before MIDNIGHT on Christmas Eve???? apart from crashing it.

Aside from quad bike lighting ... not that great. I would say we are all in the dark on that question ... :innocent: (including the rider at the time)

And I dont recall ANY "accounts" (as such) in ACC ... just each individual case lists accident type and place. (for statistical purposes)

All funding comes from the same source ...

[MSTRS]

And I dont recall ANY "accounts" (as such) in ACC ... just each individual case lists accident type and place. (for statistical purposes)

All funding comes from the same source ...

Is one of us suffering a brainfade??
There are 4 separate ACC 'accounts'...work, leisure, motorpool, non-earner.

[FJRider]

Is one of us suffering a brainfade??
There are 4 separate ACC 'accounts'...work, leisure, motorpool, non-earner.

Probably ... will you make it 'till dark ... :innocent:

[Brian407]

Is one of us suffering a brainfade??
There are 4 separate ACC 'accounts'...work, leisure, motorpool, non-earner.


Ummmm..... There are FIVE ACC accounts. They are Work, Earner, Non-Earner, Motor Vehicle and Treatment Injury. See my last post above, cut and pasted straight from the ACC website. Google it if you're not sure.

[blackdog]

And now this...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6202419/Boy-in-coma-after-quad-bike-accident

[Brian407]

Sad to hear, but theres another strike against us even though quads are NOT motorbikes. Nothing more than small tractors or oversized go carts.