Holiday ACC stats. Accurate?

**blackdog** · 26th December 2011, 10:39

Thoughts with the rider. Heal well.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6190...uad-bike-crash

**blackdog** · 26th December 2011, 15:14

Stats. Feck. Hitcher!

**chanceyy** · 26th December 2011, 16:39

fixed for ya

**NONONO** · 26th December 2011, 16:53

Your point is ?

**ducatilover** · 26th December 2011, 17:00

I don't get it.

**FJRider** · 26th December 2011, 17:57

Well ... that acident ... and hundreds like it, are the main reason the ACC stat's are as they are. And as that quad rider was most likely riding an unlicenced bike (NO ACC levies paid)... not to mention, probably not wearing ANY safety gear ... the levies you (all ... well those that DID pay

) paid, go to aid him ... and many such like ...

**blackdog** · 26th December 2011, 18:00

Originally Posted by FJRider

Well ... that acident ... and hundreds like it, are the main reason the ACC stat's are as they are. And as that quad rider was most likely riding an unlicenced bike (NO ACC levies paid)... not to mention, probably not wearing ANY safety gear ... the levies you (all ... well those that DID pay

) paid, go to aid him ... and many such like ...

Yes. Recorded as a motorcycle accident. Used to justify the rise in ACC levies.

**FJRider** · 26th December 2011, 18:03

Originally Posted by blackdog

Yes. Recorded as a motorcycle accident. Used to justify the rise in ACC levies.

It gets worse ... it is also recorded as "no other vehicle involved" ... in police files ...

**Scuba_Steve** · 26th December 2011, 19:40

Lies damm lies & statistics.

Stats are only ever as accurate as the agenda they're being used for wants them to be.

**bartshumandad** · 27th December 2011, 16:44

I don't see any reference to this being considered a 'road' accident.
From what little I could gather from the brief article, I think the most interested party will be OSH, as this is more likely a workplace accident, (note the article specifically mentions it happened on a farm) and will be added to the 'farm workers' account.
Just my guess, I don't know anything more than what I read, but hey, lets not jump to wild conclusions on no information.
BTW any claims resulting from crashes on beaches on whatever sort of registered or unregistered bikes are likely to end up in the road account, as all NZ beaches are classed as roads AFAIK.

**FJRider** · 27th December 2011, 16:50

Originally Posted by bartshumandad

I don't see any reference to this being considered a 'road' accident.
From what little I could gather from the brief article, I think the most interested party will be OSH, as this is more likely a workplace accident, (note the article specifically mentions it happened on a farm) and will be added to the 'farm workers' account.
Just my guess, I don't know anything more than what I read, but hey, lets not jump to wild conclusions on no information.
BTW any claims resulting from crashes on beaches on whatever sort of registered or unregistered bikes are likely to end up in the road account, as all NZ beaches are classed as roads AFAIK.

There is NO road/farm workers account. A "relationship" with an ACC employee confirmed it. (also from viewing MY OWN file

)

MOTORCYCLE accident. End of story.

**ducatilover** · 28th December 2011, 00:41

Originally Posted by FJRider

There is NO road/farm workers account. A "relationship" with an ACC employee confirmed it. (also from viewing MY OWN file

)

MOTORCYCLE accident. End of story.

Is this so? I was wondering about this as farmers tend to pay a large ACC levy per employee.

**FJRider** · 28th December 2011, 05:42

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Is this so? I was wondering about this as farmers tend to pay a large ACC levy per employee.

As do most employers ... At best, it would be a "workplace" accident. One of the reasons a lot of landowners dont allow access for motorcyclists ... for fear any off gets a "workplace" listing, with an increased levy to go with it.

But with the link given ... that would most likely be a lifestyle block owner ... who dont pay levies.

**ducatilover** · 28th December 2011, 09:13

Originally Posted by FJRider

As do most employers ... At best, it would be a "workplace" accident. One of the reasons a lot of landowners dont allow access for motorcyclists ... for fear any off gets a "workplce" listing, with an increased levy to go with it.

But with the link given ... that would most likely be a lifestyle block owner ... who dont pay levies.

I hope it doesn't get lumped with our bunch of mindless idiots then.
And I hope he recovers (I may know him, better ring some people over that way)