Which of these bikes would you choose and why? [Archive]

NinjaNanna

16th January 2012, 08:14

Unquestionably the Honda, lower kms, better tyres, better paint, and in my opinion better styling.

Also that model CBR received high praise as being a highly refined bike before the focus and direction changed from road to track styling.

Gremlin

16th January 2012, 08:23

Wot the ninja said... or should I call him a nanna...

avgas

16th January 2012, 08:30

I preferred the seating position of the SRAD.
What type of riding are you likely to do? May answer your question on what you should buy.

White trash

16th January 2012, 08:31

Quite simply, GSXR. Because it's a GSXR.

Nuff said.

NinjaNanna

16th January 2012, 08:48

oh yeah, the gixxer isn't even within 15% of reserve yet, so that puts the reserve at at least $4600, that's at least $400 still in your pocket to spend on other goodies.

Sliver

16th January 2012, 09:54

Thanks for the input so far.

SMOKEU

16th January 2012, 09:57

The GSXR600 is the more track oriented bike out of the 2, and if you like going around corners fast then the Suzuki is the best bike. I haven't ridden a CBR600, but I can tell you that the GSXR600 is pretty tame down low and also has little mid range, it needs to be revved out very hard before the power kicks in. It's quite similar to a 2 stroke how the power kicks in very suddenly at around 10,000rpm and that will take you to the 13,500rpm redline. It will also have enough power to make the front wheel very light in 2nd gear, and it makes for interesting high speed, full throttle corner exits on a bumpy road. It's a very fun bike indeed. It's not a good bike for around town, but it's a beast once you put it on a nice mountain road.

However, the Honda build quality is unquestionably better. The Suzuki is more likely to have small things go bad, such as rounded off chain tensioner lock nuts, rusty bolts, dodgy switches etc. The quality of the Suzuki engine and gearbox is very good, just the little things that let it down.

sil3nt

16th January 2012, 09:59

I wouldn't take either :wacko:

Tigadee

16th January 2012, 10:05

I wouldn't take either :wacko:

Why? :confused:

SMOKEU

16th January 2012, 10:07

Sliver - what kind of riding do you plan on doing? Commuting to work around town? Long distance trips? Tight mountain roads?

Sliver

16th January 2012, 10:24

Company car, so i only use it every now and then, i do different types of riding, Most over 100km roads

SMOKEU

16th January 2012, 10:54

Company car, so i only use it every now and then, i do different types of riding, Most over 100km roads

Then you'll have the most fun on a Japanese crotch rocket. Since you have a company car and aren't going to be riding every day, then you don't need a super comfortable touring style bike. I'm about 1.92m tall and don't find sports bikes too bad to ride.
Have a look at bikes similar to these:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-438079265.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-407135165.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-437857476.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-439799960.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-435563904.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-434402687.htm

All have over 100bhp, and they are a world above the more cruisy type of bikes you mentioned earlier. You'll get bored fairly quickly with the more sedate 600s. These fast 600s will keep you entertained for a long time, and very few road riders can actually ride one of these bikes to their full capability.

Sliver

16th January 2012, 11:08

Cheers smoke,

Ive been looking at the r6s to,

Ive been told both those bikes are 110 hp as well

Sliver

16th January 2012, 11:25

Dunno if this is true though.

slofox

16th January 2012, 11:42

If I was you, I'd sit on each of those bikes and see which one "fits" the best.

When I first sat on my gixxer six, it was like clipping on a body suit - it just fitted, damn! And that was that - I hadta have it...(nothing to do with the ludicrous power to weight ratio at all, no sirree!)

ducatilover

16th January 2012, 11:42

Depends on the model year of the R6.

I'd go SRAD or ZX6R myself, they tickle my fancy most.
The CBR is stupidly reliable and a brilliant ride.
The R6 is an awesome bike, but a bit more costly to pick up compared to an SRAD or ZX6R.

The best advice is to ride anything you can get your hands on and go from there. You'll be surprised how much stats on paper mean fuck all when you're on the bike.

Sliver

16th January 2012, 12:00

Yeah, Prob gonna have to go to chch to have a ride on a few.

EJK

16th January 2012, 12:22

CBR. It's got rear seats and stuffs for a pillion. Better two up I guess... That's just me tho.

Sliver

16th January 2012, 12:43

Yeah, Will be doing abit fo 2 up to.

jafar

16th January 2012, 13:04

Yeah, Will be doing abit fo 2 up to.

Take your intended passenger with you when you are trying out new bikes, there is nothing worse than a bitchy pillion.:msn-wink:

Sliver

16th January 2012, 13:49

Take your intended passenger with you when you are trying out new bikes, there is nothing worse than a bitchy pillion.:msn-wink:

fully wanted to put that in my sig...but i guess i have to be a senior member?

sil3nt

16th January 2012, 14:08

If your going to be doing any 2 up riding then the choice is obvious.

MSTRS

16th January 2012, 14:51

If your going to be doing any 2 up riding then the choice is obvious.

Even 1 up the choice is obvious...
Don't faff about with a 600. Peaky, yappy, no-torque things that they are...
Get a 750 - almost identical size and weight. But the power difference? Well - night and day.

Sliver

16th January 2012, 15:10

Can you justifi that or...?

The Pastor

16th January 2012, 15:16

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ducatilover

16th January 2012, 15:23

Can you justifi that or...?
600 = good
750 = gooder.

There's no reason against it

Sliver

16th January 2012, 15:25

ive been looking at all sizes, its just finding the right bike

ducatilover

16th January 2012, 15:32

ive been looking at all sizes, its just finding the right bike
A gixxer 750 will outperform the 600 in every way. But, you don't need the extra power.

Madness

16th January 2012, 15:34

Of the two options prvided, I'd go the GSXR. Why? - Because I'm heterosexual :msn-wink:

Definitely look at 750's and definitely ride lots of different bikes before buying.

Ender EnZed

16th January 2012, 15:39

I'd go for the Honda. :buggerd:

It looks tidier in the photos and has a better rep for quality as well as just being a damn good bike. Without having ridden either I suspect the CBR would get you down almost all NZ roads at least as fast as the GSXR and you'd be more comfortable when you got there. However, if a test ride proved the 'Zook to be more exciting in reality as well as image then I'd change my mind.

MSTRS

16th January 2012, 15:45

Can you justifi that or...?

Yep.
The 600s go like cut cats IF you are prepared to wring their necks. What they don't do is cart the extra weight of a pillion all that well without a lot of extra effort. The SRAD version has about 93hp.
By the same token the SRAD 750 (like mine) has about 135hp, waaaay more torque and doesn't have to be boiled in oil to get a credible result. ie - with a pillion, 6th gear, 50kph...open the throttle. It's not a beast (yet) but it'll pull away and you'll out-accelerate the car doing the same thing beside you. On your own, it'll pull in top from about 30kph (1500rpm) and let you know it's alive at around 7000rpm before it takes you all the way to 14000 before the dreaded rev limiter kicks in. But, of course, you'll have backed off before that...cos redline in top is about 270kph.

Mine's stock standard, apart from the can (and the double bubble screen) and I was doing 12sec quarters on a chipseal road suffering from tarmelt. And at Manfield just this Saturday, taking pillions for a strop, I was coming out of the hairpin at 50kph and braking for Higgins at 175...try that on your 600.

If the cheaper rego bracket is more important - than go the 600.

ducatilover

16th January 2012, 16:19

Yep.
The 600s go like cut cats IF you are prepared to wring their necks. What they don't do is cart the extra weight of a pillion all that well without a lot of extra effort. The SRAD version has about 93hp.
By the same token the SRAD 750 (like mine) has about 135hp, waaaay more torque and doesn't have to be boiled in oil to get a credible result. ie - with a pillion, 6th gear, 50kph...open the throttle. It's not a beast (yet) but it'll pull away and you'll out-accelerate the car doing the same thing beside you. On your own, it'll pull in top from about 30kph (1500rpm) and let you know it's alive at around 7000rpm before it takes you all the way to 14000 before the dreaded rev limiter kicks in. But, of course, you'll have backed off before that...cos redline in top is about 270kph.

Mine's stock standard, apart from the can (and the double bubble screen) and I was doing 12sec quarters on a chipseal road suffering from tarmelt. And at Manfield just this Saturday, taking pillions for a strop, I was coming out of the hairpin at 50kph and braking for Higgins at 175...try that on your 600.

If the cheaper rego bracket is more important - than go the 600.

This is why the SRAD is on my bike list.
How much did you pay for yours?

MSTRS

16th January 2012, 16:28

This is why the SRAD is on my bike list.
How much did you pay for yours?

Not enough, considering the fun we've had together for the last 5 years. And it's still worth more than half what I paid for it.
Ahhhh, the memories (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/36973-Only-1-hour-to-go....)

slofox

16th January 2012, 16:31

Personally I like 600's. Why? Light weight and zippy, easy to flick around and what's more, light enough that I can pick it up when, inevitably, I arse off it...(Rule 1. Never buy a bike that you can't pick up.) The K8 GSX-R600 is not particularly peaky. There's plenty of torque from about 6000 on up to redline at 16,000. Real power is there around 10,000 to 14,000. But the spread is pretty good. Suzuki actually worked hard on this point for the K8 and subsequent 600's and got it pretty right. Oh and I quite like that high revving engine as well.

I've also ridden 750 and 1000 versions of the GSXR. 1000 was way more than I needed and the added mass was very noticeable on a familiar road. Didn't like that extra mass. And the power was crazy - I figured you could get into trouble in the blink of an eye if you fucked up. I can wring the 600's neck and feel quite comfortable thanks very much. Given the typical road conditions that I ride, I'd never use all that extra power anyway.

The 750 was lovely but then I didn't feel the extra was actually necessary for me anyway. And the rego is that much dearer as well.

I like lighter bikes - always have. So that's my $0.02 worth.

ducatilover

16th January 2012, 16:47

Not enough, considering the fun we've had together for the last 5 years. And it's still worth more than half what I paid for it.
Ahhhh, the memories (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/36973-Only-1-hour-to-go....)

:love: Nom nom.

That is all.

tigertim20

16th January 2012, 16:54

Not worried about the prices, both bikes are on TRademe and both are about 4 hours away.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=439191775

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=437504684

If i was more practical for every day stuff, the Honda, But Im not practical. Id buy the SRAD, put glass fairings on it, and id track that slut till it went bang.

Sliver

16th January 2012, 17:02

If i was more practical for every day stuff, the Honda, But Im not practical. Id buy the SRAD, put glass fairings on it, and id track that slut till it went bang.

i have been thinking about it ;)

Sliver

16th January 2012, 17:03

Also Woot im a scooter boy!

mashman

16th January 2012, 17:10

just to throw summit different into the mix

Cheap as chips (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-439431921.htm)

Sliver

16th January 2012, 17:12

just to throw summit different into the mix

Cheap as chips (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-439431921.htm)

It is a nice bike, Although i like to ride before i buy, (saves me from buying a bent frame bike etc etc)

SMOKEU

16th January 2012, 17:17

just to throw summit different into the mix

Cheap as chips (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-439431921.htm)

Fuck that's a nice bike.

Madness

16th January 2012, 17:21

(saves me from buying a bent frame bike etc etc)

You won't have a problem getting a KBer to check a seriously prospective bike over. Especially so if it's an RSV :msn-wink:

DR650gary

16th January 2012, 17:31

Fuck that's a nice bike.

+ 1

Wot he said :eek:

Heaps of guys lining up to look it over for ya :msn-wink:

I have three sons who have owned heaps of bikes, as have I. Their 600's have never bought them or I as much joy as the 1000's or 750's. Current family bikes are a couple of FZ1's and a CBR1000rr, TDM900, SV650 and XJ6S Yamaha. The ZX6's were nice, but the CBR's are nicer :niceone:

Buy the biggest you can handle and the best you can afford. You won't be sorry and if you do ride 2 up, a 600 can be a pain sometimes.

Cheers

ducatilover

16th January 2012, 17:34

just to throw summit different into the mix

Cheap as chips (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-439431921.htm)

Yerp, that wins

EJK

16th January 2012, 19:42

just to throw summit different into the mix

Cheap as chips (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-439431921.htm)

sex.. .

mashman

16th January 2012, 19:46

sex.. .

no thanks, I've just eaten. If I had a spare 6k I'd go for it myself. I love the older shape.

Sliver

18th January 2012, 16:52

Thanks for the input guys.

Sliver

22nd January 2012, 15:53

Pussy

22nd January 2012, 16:01

tigertim20

22nd January 2012, 19:19

price difference btween the cbr and the gsx is $800 (not that it worries me)

both bikes are kiwi new (dont want another import)

the gsx is a 98 not a 99 as listed

prob gonna go for the CBR due to the fact

1 year newer
Brand new tyres
10,000km less

ALTHOUGH the gsx is a better looking bike =p
they are both great bikes, and as I said earlier, you probably cant go too far wrong with either of them.
Just remember the KB rules - buy a new bike and you have to post photos of YOUR bike with a naked girly on it.
or else you get banned.:Punk:

Sliver

23rd January 2012, 15:05

they are both great bikes, and as I said earlier, you probably cant go too far wrong with either of them.
Just remember the KB rules - buy a new bike and you have to post photos of YOUR bike with a naked girly on it.
or else you get banned.:Punk:

Can i borrrow your missis for a minute then please?

Sliver

23rd January 2012, 15:44

I reckon you're probably making the right choice. The CBRs are great bikes.

Yeah they get a good write up, did a VIR, and seen its been re-registered, Could be that that plates just went did, or could be that it was stacked, Either way it affects the resale, DAMN

MSTRS

23rd January 2012, 15:50

With re-registered bikes, it is quite possible that the original plate was one of those hody (sp) big square plates...
I've done 2 like that - cos they're ucking fugly

Gremlin

23rd January 2012, 16:09

You don't need to re-register for that tho... I've had my plate changed on two different bikes... just went and said I need another. Standard plates aren't re-printed, so you get another.

Sliver

23rd January 2012, 16:17

With re-registered bikes, it is quite possible that the original plate was one of those hody (sp) big square plates...
I've done 2 like that - cos they're ucking fugly

Yeah, but this was deregoed for 2 years....which makes it look real dodgy

MSTRS

23rd January 2012, 16:23

Yeah, but this was deregoed for 2 years....which makes it look real dodgy

I'd agree.

But there should be a note in the database as to the reason? Used to be, at least in the case of written off/plates handed in.

DEATH_INC.

23rd January 2012, 17:02

Theres no choice, it comes down to the sort of rider you are.
The year and k's really don't mean that much.
If you're a limp wristed fag, get the Honda 255785
If you're a nutcase then get the gixxer. :blink:
Easy.

tigertim20

23rd January 2012, 22:24

Can i borrrow your missis for a minute then please?
based on your propsed selection of bikes, you couldnt afford her. Im sure your mother will help you out?

With re-registered bikes, it is quite possible that the original plate was one of those hody (sp) big square plates...
I've done 2 like that - cos they're ucking fugly
yep highly likely, Ive done the same, costs about $12 to get a new plate, the square one was fugly on my cbr600 F2, so got a newer one.

Yeah, but this was deregoed for 2 years....which makes it look real dodgy
not necessarily. my cbr went thorugh 3 plates when I had it. started with the square one, I got a newer shaped one cos it looked nicer, then I had too much fun riding and forgot to rego it, so had to re-do it, 3rd plate, nothing dodgy, just lazy. plenty of people park them up for a while.
An inspection and test ride of the bike shoudl quickly and easily answer any questions about previous damages.

Theres no choice, it comes down to the sort of rider you are.
The year and k's really don't mean that much.
If you're a limp wristed fag, get the Honda 255785
If you're a nutcase then get the gixxer. :blink:
Easy.
of course!
He has chosen the Honda after all!

Sliver

24th January 2012, 08:51

based on your propsed selection of bikes, you couldnt afford her. Im sure your mother will help you out?

yep highly likely, Ive done the same, costs about $12 to get a new plate, the square one was fugly on my cbr600 F2, so got a newer one.

not necessarily. my cbr went thorugh 3 plates when I had it. started with the square one, I got a newer shaped one cos it looked nicer, then I had too much fun riding and forgot to rego it, so had to re-do it, 3rd plate, nothing dodgy, just lazy. plenty of people park them up for a while.
An inspection and test ride of the bike shoudl quickly and easily answer any questions about previous damages.

of course!
He has chosen the Honda after all!

LOL Bastard,

You dont have to de rego the bike to change the plates, These plates were de regod for 2 years.