Crashed!

[oracle]

Was lanesplitting along the North Western this morning being followed by another biker and a guy decided to change lanes just as I was starting to pass him on my right. I don't quite understand how but the right hand side of my bike went down and broke off the front brake lever and footpeg as well as braking the casing on the gauges and pushing the whole display out of alignment (all that I can see). He pulled over, admitted fault and I got his details. He said he would pay for repairs.

What I want to know is since I was lanesplitting will my insurance company stand by me getting my bike fixed or should I get a quote to fix and give this to him?

Also, help to get the bike from University of Auckland to Swanson would be much appreciated as I don't want to ride it in the current condition

[Str8 Jacket]

I was lanesplitting on the motorway and had an accident...... we should start a subforum for this topic...... :rolleyes:

[willytheekid]

I was lanesplitting on the motorway and had an accident...... we should start a subforum for this topic...... :rolleyes:

Does seem to be a reoccuring theme lately :(

Hope the OP is ok non the less, never nice to damage your ride or self.(hope it all works out oracle & your not banged up to bad)

Ride safe everyone:love:
...and remember!...25th march, their panel damage...could be OUR life!!

[oracle]

I was lanesplitting on the motorway and had an accident...... we should start a subforum for this topic...... :rolleyes:

Yeah I know and I feel stupid for it, but physically fine.

Would really appreciate if anyone knows how insurance companies look at lanesplitting? Would I be covered or in the shit because I was not in a lane?

[MSTRS]

Not in a lane? Where, exactly, were you then?

[SMOKEU]

Would really appreciate if anyone knows how insurance companies look at lanesplitting? Would I be covered or in the shit because I was not in a lane?

There's a wiki somewhere covering lanesplitting legality. As long as you weren't doing anything illegal then the insurance company has to cough up.

[Str8 Jacket]

Yeah I know and I feel stupid for it, but physically fine.

Would really appreciate if anyone knows how insurance companies look at lanesplitting? Would I be covered or in the shit because I was not in a lane?

Hey, sorry if I came across as nasty wasn't what I was trying to do. But you'd be best to learn a lesson here...

As for insurance, is the damage worth more than your excess? Is it even worth claiming for?

[oracle]

Hey, sorry if I came across as nasty wasn't what I was trying to do. But you'd be best to learn a lesson here...

As for insurance, is the damage worth more than your excess? Is it even worth claiming for?

No, you didn't seem nasty at all, completely agree with what you are saying. My excess is $300 but will need new gauges as well as lever and footpeg and something is rubbing. But I should not have to pay excess since the guy fully admitted his fault and seems like he will genuinely pay (although I know I have no confirmation and was silly enough to only get a couple of phone numbers again). But if my insurance will not follow through with getting the money from him cause of my lanesplitting then I will just get an repair quote from cyclespot and give him the bill directly


There's a wiki somewhere covering lanesplitting legality. As long as you weren't doing anything illegal then the insurance company has to cough up.
Yeah but I have no idea what lane I was in before he started to move, only after

[MSTRS]

Yeah but I have no idea what lane I was in before he started to move, only after

It doesn't matter what lane you were in. But it DOES MATTER WHERE in the lane.
If you're gonna split, you need to abide by the rules and know exactly what you are doing.
Sounds to me like you just go ahead and trust that all will be well?

[oracle]

It doesn't matter what lane you were in. But it DOES MATTER WHERE in the lane.
If you're gonna split, you need to abide by the rules and know exactly what you are doing.
Sounds to me like you just go ahead and trust that all will be well?

If I was in the righthand lane I was undertaking him, if I was in the lefthand lane I was overtaking him in this context. But I can not at all remember. Hoping my witness maybe will know

[MSTRS]

If I was in the righthand lane I was undertaking him, if I was in the lefthand lane I was overtaking him in this context. But I can not at all remember. Hoping my witness maybe will know

You suffer a head injury?

[Maha]

''a guy decided to change lanes just as I was starting to pass him on my right''

I can tell you, that you were probably in the left lane (or the middle lane if there were three) ..either way, the vehicle that you collided with didn't know you were there.
It is also possible that you were in his lane but pssing him on his left (for this scenario to occure)
An insurance should cover that...it was an accident...you were in a lane (unless you are really clever/dumb and can ride on the white lines/cats eyes?) at the time and another vehicle decided to change lanes..

[oracle]

''a guy decided to change lanes just as I was starting to pass him on my right''

I can tell you, that you were probably in the left lane (or the middle lane if there were three) ..either way, the vehicle that you collided with didn't know you were there.
It is also possible that you were in his lane but pssing him on his left (for this scenario to occure)
An insurance should cover that...it was an accident...you were in a lane (unless you are really clever/dumb and can ride on the white lines/cats eyes?) at the time and another vehicle decided to change lanes..

Yeah I have decided that I am going to get his rego (such an idiot thing to forget) and call my insurance tomorrow. It can stay where it is overnight

[oracle]

The witness confirmed that I was on the left of the centre line so I am definitely contacting my insurance

[Mom]

Yeah but I have no idea what lane I was in before he started to move, only after

Claim on your insuramce and let them chase the other fella for money. That way you get your bike fixed and you dont have to stress. Tell it how you remember it and be much more aware in future.

[FJRider]

In most insurance cases ... If your vehicle is legal (Reg & WOF up to date) and YOU were not under the influence ... they pay out. Mistakes happen (even big fuck-ups). Being blameless in an accident is not (usually) a requirement to be paid out. However ... look at your excess ... is it worth it ???

[Katman]

Hey, sorry if I came across as nasty wasn't what I was trying to do.

Yeah, that's my job.

If you're lane splitting and things turn to shit, it's because you failed.

Assume that attitude and you'll live longer.

[rustic101]

Pleased you are ok but take a lesson from this that when you ride everyoneone on the road wants to kill you. If you had been riding correctly and within the limits of your knowledge, experience and skills this would never have happened. A motorway is not a good place to practice your skills nor is it a track!

If I was the driver of the car that you hit I'd take the option of incorrect lane change, which is around $150ish and argue that you were in the wrong!!! If you are insured driving within your licence conditions and were not influenced by alcohol or drugs you should get insurance , but the next time round it's going to be expensive..


Don't get me wrong, I split daily and at a reasonable pace, including taking risks, however I still manage to stay safe and there are times when I just sit back and wait. You will learn to look at a number of factors like the drivers head position, car movement, speed and position along with other indicators they intend to change lanes with or without warning. Also other vehicle ahead and what they are doing.

[oracle]

Yeah, that's my job.

If you're lane splitting and things turn to shit, it's because you failed.

Assume that attitude and you'll live longer.

Oh I do take that attitude but that doesn't mean I don't want my bike to be fixed hopefully without me having to pay for it


Pleased you are ok but take a lesson from this that when you ride everyoneone on the road wants to kill you. If you had been riding correctly and within the limits of your knowledge, experience and skills this would never have happened. A motorway is not a good place to practice your skills nor is it a track!

If I was the driver of the car that you hit I'd take the option of incorrect lane change, which is around $150ish and argue that you were in the wrong!!! If you are insured driving within your licence conditions and were not influenced by alcohol or drugs you should get insurance , but the next time round it's going to be expensive..


Don't get me wrong, I split daily and at a reasonable pace, including taking risks, however I still manage to stay safe and there are times when I just sit back and wait. You will learn to look at a number of factors like the drivers head position, car movement, speed and position along with other indicators they intend to change lanes with or without warning. Also other vehicle ahead and what they are doing.

I have done all these things multiple times having seen that a person is about to change lanes without any notice and slowed down to avoid this. This time I didn't, you can't tell me that there aren't times that even the most experienced rider makes a mistake on something that they have done perfectly every other time

[raftn]

Oh I do take that attitude but that doesn't mean I don't want my bike to be fixed hopefully without me having to pay for it



I have done all these things multiple times having seen that a person is about to change lanes without any notice and slowed down to avoid this. This time I didn't, you can't tell me that there aren't times that even the most experienced rider makes a mistake on something that they have done perfectly every other time

So you lane split, get knocked off, and all you are worried about is insurance paying out......fuck me I wonder some times.

[FJRider]

I have done all these things multiple times having seen that a person is about to change lanes without any notice and slowed down to avoid this. This time I didn't, you can't tell me that there aren't times that even the most experienced rider makes a mistake on something that they have done perfectly every other time

Didn't see they were about to change lanes ... or didn't slow down ... ???

How often you do things perfectly matters little. It's when others in your vicinity don't do things perfectly ... that really matters.

Some days you get lucky (every other time) ... some days not ... :facepalm:

[oracle]

So you lane split, get knocked off, and all you are worried about is insurance paying out......fuck me I wonder some times.

The only reason that that is the main thing I am worried about is because I was lucky enough to walk away with only a couple or small grazes. I am going to try to be more aware, more alert but there is nothing I can change about this particular incident now. Should I be concerned about injuries that I don't have healing? What are you thinking I should be worried about with regards to this situation?

[Drew]

She crashed. FLAME HER!!!!

Insurance should pay if you can get the dudes Plate and license numbers, and you'll go excess free, if he'll admit to them that he was at fault.

[Drew]

So you lane split, get knocked off, and all you are worried about is insurance paying out......fuck me I wonder some times.Clearly you don't agree with lane splitting.

Umm, stiff shit. Some of us do it to save ourselves some time, and with the right attitude and awareness it's perfectly safe.

I dunno if you're aware, but motorcycles are an inherently bad idea. With only one wheel at each end they are quite prone to falling over. Most of us have had it happen, and all who have didn't expect it, or do it on purpose.

Hypocrisy is still alive and well everywhere I look!

[raftn]

Clearly you don't agree with lane splitting.

Umm, stiff shit. Some of us do it to save ourselves some time, and with the right attitude and awareness it's perfectly safe.

I dunno if you're aware, but motorcycles are an inherently bad idea. With only one wheel at each end they are quite prone to falling over. Most of us have had it happen, and all who have didn't expect it, or do it on purpose.

Hypocrisy is still alive and well everywhere I look!

I expected you to pop up spouting your normal shit.

[5150]

Yeah, that's my job.

If you're lane splitting and things turn to shit, it's because you failed.

Assume that attitude and you'll live longer.

How did you get in here under the radar? :laugh:

[FJRider]

Umm, stiff shit. Some of us do it to save ourselves some time, and with the right attitude and awareness it's perfectly safe.

I dunno if you're aware, but motorcycles are an inherently bad idea. With only one wheel at each end they are quite prone to falling over. Most of us have had it happen, and all who have didn't expect it, or do it on purpose.

Hypocrisy is still alive and well everywhere I look!

So ... the OP obviously didn't have the right attitude, or lacking in awareness ... because she did things perfectly every other time. Which do you suppose of those two, was she not doing right ???

The words "I've done it plenty of times before with no problems ... it's perfectly safe" crop up on this site often. Especially in "I've crashed" threads ...

If all riders/drivers (of both sexes) have the right attitude and awareness ..... :wings:

But they don't .... <_<

[Maha]

stiff shit.


Two words that shouldn't be seen together....:pinch:
Much nicer when its....gooey.:blink:

[FJRider]

Two words that shouldn't be seen together....:pinch:
Much nicer when its....gooey.:blink:

Harder to scrape out of the undies then ... :shutup:

[Maha]

Harder to scrape out of the undies then ... :shutup:

...and they are tapered so your arsehole doesn't close with a Bang!

[Drew]

I expected you to pop up spouting your normal shit.

Ahh, so you've read stuff I've written before, and have me all figured out do ya? Go spend an hour or three trawling through my posts, and watch me argue both sides of this coin ya fuckin know it all.

By fuck, there is nothing as infuriating as cock smokin uninformed sanctimony.

[raftn]

Ahh, so you've read stuff I've written before, and have me all figured out do ya? Go spend an hour or three trawling through my posts, and watch me argue both sides of this coin ya fuckin know it all.

By fuck, there is nothing as infuriating as cock smokin uninformed sanctimony.

Shit that was an easy wind up.

[Drew]

Shit that was an easy wind up.Poor retort though. Could have gone on for days slagging each other.

[MSTRS]

Bit unrealistic, Drew? Surely not for days....oh...you said slagging. As you were.

[oracle]

So ... the OP obviously didn't have the right attitude, or lacking in awareness ... because he did things perfectly every other time. Which do you suppose of those two, was he not doing right ???

The words "I've done it plenty of times before with no problems ... it's perfectly safe" crop up on this site often. Especially in "I've crashed" threads ...

If all riders/drivers have the right attitude and awareness ..... :wings:

But they don't .... <_<

Look, I am fully aware and willing to admit I wasn't being aware enough this time. But you seriously can't tell me that you believe all accidents of this nature can be avoided. There are times when a driver will not be showing any of the signs that they are going to suddenly make an unindicated lane change, especially when there isn't really a gap for them to change into. I am not trying to deffend myself, just you are being really ignorant if you believe that EVERYTHING can be seen from behind your visor.

And if you are going to pull me to bits, at least make it clear you are talking to me by using the right personal pronouns

[Drew]

Look, I am fully aware and willing to admit I wasn't being aware enough this time. But you seriously can't tell me that you believe all accidents of this nature can be avoided. There are times when a driver will not be showing any of the signs that they are going to suddenly make an unindicated lane change, especially when there isn't really a gap for them to change into. I am not trying to offend myself, just you are being really ignorant if you believe that EVERYTHING can be seen from behind your visor.

And if you are going to pull me to bits, at least make it clear you are talking to me by using the right personal pronouns

Oh Christ, now you've done it!

Chicks, just can't leave well enough alone.:no:

:laugh:

[Madness]

I am not trying to offend myself

How do you do that, exactly?

[Drew]

How do you do that, exactly?

Fuck I'm a retarded, gay, pastey, black, jewish, Honda rider.

That should do it.

[rustic101]

And if you are going to pull me to bits, at least make it clear you are talking to me by using the right personal pronouns


:no: Whats that expression? When you're in a hole.....

[FJRider]

Look, I am fully aware and willing to admit I wasn't being aware enough this time.

With my (admittedly) limited lane splitting experience ... being in close proximity to other traffic (cars, trucks, or even motorcycles) needs/demands your full attention. Drop your guard and you're dead meat (litterally)


But you seriously can't tell me that you believe all accidents of this nature can be avoided. There are times when a driver will not be showing any of the signs that they are going to suddenly make an unindicated lane change, especially when there isn't really a gap for them to change into. I am not trying to deffend myself, just you are being really ignorant if you believe that EVERYTHING can be seen from behind your visor.

In bold type is the key to your life ... being a little longer. Think about it. If you choose to continue to lane-split ... remember that line. Say the words out loud as you split. And if you dont back off a bit then ... it is you that's the "ignorant" one.


And if you are going to pull me to bits, at least make it clear you are talking to me by using the right personal pronouns

I'll talk to those that want to listen (ok ... a few that don't too). Your reply means you were listening ... but the post wasn't made directly at you. Your reply does makes me think I hit a nerve though. Funny that.

The things that kill you .... are the things you weren't looking for. Not the things you didn't see.

Perhaps if you think on my reply ... you may live just a tad longer.

[oracle]

With my (admittedly) limited lane splitting experience ... being in close proximity to other traffic (cars, trucks, or even motorcycles) needs/demands your full attention. Drop your guard and you're dead meat (litterally)

In bold type is the key to your life ... being a little longer. Think about it. If you choose to continue to lane-split ... remember that line. Say the words out loud as you split. And if you dont back off a bit then ... it is you that's the "ignorant" one.

I'll talk to those that want to listen (ok ... a few that don't too). Your reply means you were listening ... but the post wasn't made directly at you. Your reply does makes me think I hit a nerve though. Funny that.
[
QUOTE=FJRider;1130282719]So ... the OP obviously didn't have the right attitude, or lacking in awareness ... because he did things perfectly every other time. Which do you suppose of those two, was he not doing right ???
[/QUOTE]



The things that kill you .... are the things you weren't looking for. Not the things you didn't see.

Perhaps if you think on my reply ... you may live just a tad longer.

You really think anyone who is lanesplitting isn't aware that they are taking a major risk? Of course I am aware of that I made my decision. this time I came out on the wrong side of that risk. You don't know what I could see and what I couldn't I was looking out for everything and it was too late when I saw any sign. But the nerve you really hit and you clearly were referring to me when you called me a he is that you are willing to say I did eveything wrong but not willing to see that this isn't all a boys club and there are some of us girls out here

[FJRider]

You really think anyone who is lanesplitting isn't aware that they are taking a major risk? Of course I am aware of that I made my decision. this time I came out on the wrong side of that risk.

Most may be aware it may happen, but decide they are/will be ... aware of possible problems ... before they become a problem.
And when it is a problem ... the "not my fault/idiot cage drivers" comments come out.
The more often you lane-split without incident ... the more relaxed you will be doing it. Not always the best thing to do.


You don't know what I could see and what I couldn't I was looking out for everything and it was too late when I saw any sign. But the nerve you really hit and you clearly were referring to me when you called me a he is that you are willing to say I did eveything wrong but not willing to see that this isn't all a boys club and there are some of us girls out here

Just because you never saw an issue, does not mean it was there to be seen. I've missed a few things over the years (and got the scars to show for it) but try lane splitting in places like Singapore/Bangkok (I have ... and lived) so I have some understanding what I can/can't see from behind my visor. Auckland traffic is nothing by comparison.

My apologies for the HE comment ... I will edit that post. But male or female ... the same risks and rules apply to BOTH. Unless YOU are special.

ps: your editing and grammar needs work

[bsasuper]

Lane splitting, do it at your own risk.There is no such thing as safe lane splitting, no matter how good you think you are, you are only as safe as the most alert driver in that long line of cars, and as you know most non motorcycle riders are not alert to us.

[Drew]

Lane splitting, do it at your own risk.There is no such thing as safe lane splitting, no matter how good you think you are, you are only as safe as the most alert driver in that long line of cars, and as you know most non motorcycle riders are not alert to us.

Lots of us think the risk is acceptable, for the gains to be had.

I think it is PERFECTLY safe to ride through traffic within a certain speed differential. Which should be decided on a moment by moment basis. I have done it stupidly, and paid for it.

[quickbuck]

So,
What have we learnt from this thread......
Do Not come on here and start a thread with "Crashed" anywhere in the title....

Now, as for Lane splitting:
Yes, I have done it, but like Drew, stick to a speed differential, and also keep your situational awareness.
I think I lost interest when the OP didn't actually know where on the road they were when they got hit.

I may not be perfect, but that is one detail, out of about 50+ that I am constantly observing as I filter through traffic.

[FJRider]

Lots of us think the risk is acceptable, for the gains to be had.

I think it is PERFECTLY safe to ride through traffic within a certain speed differential. Which should be decided on a moment by moment basis. I have done it stupidly, and paid for it.

Half a moment of careless action by the operator(s) of a vehicle(s) near you ... leaves you a half moment to get clear. Will that be long enough ???

[bsasuper]

I may not be perfect, but that is one detail, out of about 50+ that I am constantly observing as I filter through traffic.

Im surprised you have time to look where you are going then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAioiUn5_6w

[The Singing Chef]

So,
What have we learnt from this thread......
Do Not come on here and start a thread with "Crashed" anywhere in the title....

Now, as for Lane splitting:
Yes, I have done it, but like Drew, stick to a speed differential, and also keep your situational awareness.
I think I lost interest when the OP didn't actually know where on the road they were when they got hit.

I may not be perfect, but that is one detail, out of about 50+ that I am constantly observing as I filter through traffic.

You would think people would learn by now? Maybe we need a sticky about this.


Im surprised you have time to look where you are going then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAioiUn5_6w

I use mainly my peripheral vision and feel to determine what side I am on if I don't have the time to look away. You sure know when you hit the cat's eyes and either move to one side of them, unless you feel like a bumpy ride.

[FJRider]

You would think people would learn by now? Maybe we need a sticky about this.

Perhaps lane splitting be included in the restricted test.

However ... blood is sticky enough. And once you see blood (your own especially) .... You will remember.


I use mainly my peripheral vision and feel to determine what side I am on if I don't have the time to look away. You sure know when you hit the cat's eyes and either move to one side of them, unless you feel like a bumpy ride.

I use my spidey senses ... and the little voices in my head. My mind reading skills fade pretty quickly though. But they do eat into the concentration needed to stay upright .... so it's not that bad.
If you laugh ... (I did once) ... but considering the number of times the voices told me (and I listened) and they were right .... I trust the voices.

[The Singing Chef]

Perhaps lane splitting be included in the restricted test.

However ... blood is sticky enough. And once you see blood (your own especially) .... You will remember.

That could make for an interesting test, imagine the chaos when they get knocked off :blink: Yea lucky my leathers have always protected me from that, though seen a fair amount of other riders blood before. Not somewhere you want to be.




I use my spidey senses ... and the little voices in my head. My mind reading skills fade pretty quickly though. But they do eat into the concentration needed to stay upright .... so it's not that bad.
If you laugh ... (I did once) ... but considering the number of times the voices told me (and I listened) and they were right .... I trust the voices.

The voices in my head are usually David Gilmour or Roger Waters, and when the tell me to break down the wall, I would rather not listen to them.

[FJRider]

That could make for an interesting test, imagine the chaos when they get knocked off :blink: Yea lucky my leathers have always protected me from that, though seen a fair amount of other riders blood before. Not somewhere you want to be.

As I said ... your own blood has more effect. And you can leak from places your leathers wont stop.

[QUOTE=The Singing Chef;1130283606]The voices in my head are usually David Gilmour or Roger Waters, and when the tell me to break down the wall, I would rather not listen to them.

You're listening to the wrong voices. Perhaps the voices only come with age.

[The Singing Chef]

As I said ... your own blood has more effect. And you can leak from places your leathers wont stop.



You're listening to the wrong voices. Perhaps the voices only come with age.

Yes well hopefully I don't have do watch the blood flow out of me from a bike accident, had it from stabbings before but that's kinda the last thing you think of.

How can they be the wrong voices? They are absolute legends! :woohoo: But no, I do know of this "voice" you speak of and it is something to be listened to, just like the intuition before you go for a ride that you should probably stay at home.

[FJRider]

Yes well hopefully I don't have do watch the blood flow out of me from a bike accident, had it from stabbings before but that's kinda the last thing you think of.



It often is the last thing you see ...

[The Singing Chef]

It often is the last thing you see ...

You're full of joy aren't you? Mind you, considering the thread topic...

[Berries]

You really think anyone who is lanesplitting isn't aware that they are taking a major risk? Of course I am aware of that I made my decision. this time I came out on the wrong side of that risk.
I guess when it all turns to shit you have to look at it from the car drivers side. Should car drivers expect to have bikes coming between them and the vehicle next to them? Probably not. Bike not in the mirror, check the other side, quick check over the shoulder and then move over. Bang. You know that is the risk, as do we all, but can you really blame the car driver? All these legalities over lane splitting are just loopholes due to the wording of the legislation.

[MSTRS]

I guess when it all turns to shit you have to look at it from the car drivers side. Should car drivers expect to have bikes coming between them and the vehicle next to them? Probably not. Bike not in the mirror, check the other side, quick check over the shoulder and then move over. Bang. You know that is the risk, as do we all, but can you really blame the car driver? All these legalities over lane splitting are just loopholes due to the wording of the legislation.

Repeated for truth.
The one thing that is a stand-out in the whole debate has not yet been mentioned. Until now.
Ascertaining that the way is clear.
That little gem applies to every moment of vehicular movement, but particularly applies to any vehicle that is beginning a lane change OR overtaking manouevre.
We might well berate the 'ignorant cager' for moving into our path when splitting, but is it really the cager's fault? The gap between two lanes of cars (moving or stationary) is often not great and a bike can be well camouflaged in the sea of vehicles visible behind said cager. Couple that with a bike splitting at 'stupid' speeds (and I'd put that description at anything more than 15kph faster than the surrounding traffic) or splitting when the traffic is flowing at above 50kph...well, I'd lay the 'fault' in any crash squarely on the biker.

[oracle]

I guess when it all turns to shit you have to look at it from the car drivers side. Should car drivers expect to have bikes coming between them and the vehicle next to them? Probably not. Bike not in the mirror, check the other side, quick check over the shoulder and then move over. Bang. You know that is the risk, as do we all, but can you really blame the car driver? All these legalities over lane splitting are just loopholes due to the wording of the legislation.

It's not that I don't agree with you, but if I can get my bike fixed without paying for it I am going to

[PrincessBandit]

..... A motorway is not a good place to practice your skills .....

True words.
We all know there's a first time for trying everything, even lane splitting on a motorway, but keen awareness (of the entire bubble around you - yes, including behind to be cognisant of other riders splitting behind you) is essential. It can be highly risky depending on multiple factors and quite honestly the OP should just be thankful she got off with minimal injury and cough up if insurance doesn't pay for her risk taking.

Sorry to sound blunt over that, but lane splitting is hardly "I didn't contribute to any part of the incident" material.

[willytheekid]

:facepalm:..Damn theres some preachy buggers on here!

"A motorcycle may overtake a vehicle on the right within the same lane if it is safe to do so. The traffic must be stationary or slow-moving and the way ahead must be clear. A motorcycle may overtake a vehicle on the left only if that vehicle is stationary or if it is turning right.

If high speed was involved, then the police would consider charges such as careless or even dangerous driving."

-Thats the law as it stands!

If you want to lane split...do it bloody carefully and slowly! (Not at mark 9!)

Personally...I lane split!...but only on roads I know well, and usually at 30kph past "stationary" traffic (or if its crawling along at less than 30kph...and even THAT is technically illegal!...naughty me lol)

Ride safe everyone ;)

[Tigadee]

Fuck I'm a retarded, gay, pastey, black, jewish, Honda rider.
it.

I find your choice of the word "pastey" offensive...

[FJRider]

I guess when it all turns to shit you have to look at it from the car drivers side. Should car drivers expect to have bikes coming between them and the vehicle next to them? Probably not. Bike not in the mirror, check the other side, quick check over the shoulder and then move over. Bang. You know that is the risk, as do we all, but can you really blame the car driver? All these legalities over lane splitting are just loopholes due to the wording of the legislation.

Along those lines ... most bikers get get a tad stroppy when other vehicles try to lane split them ...

[Berries]

I find your choice of the word "pastey" offensive...
It's ok, he's probably Cornesh.

[Drew]

It's ok, he's probably Cornesh.


Ba dum tisssssssssssssss.

[theseekerfinds]

Fuck I'm a retarded, gay, pastey, black, jewish, Honda rider.

That should do it.

at least you ride a Honda.. the rest of it is of no consequence

:rockon:

[Drew]

at least you ride a Honda.. the rest of it is of no consequence

:rockon:I think you've missed the point somewhat.

[pritch]

I think you've missed the point somewhat.

The loose spelling probably didn't help? But it were funny.

[Drew]

The loose spelling probably didn't help? But it were funny.

I should have called myself a Harley rider anyway. Gay was already said.

[Nzpure]

Oh how i love KB.
Only here does someone get harrassed for having an accident LOL.
You would prolly get more sympathy if you were pissed and stoned had no helmet on and was wearing a t-shirt, hot pants and jandals on and ran a red light and t-boned a harley rider

[Katman]

Oh how i love KB.
Only here does someone get harrassed for having an accident LOL.


I'm sorry - should they be applauded?

[Nzpure]

I'm sorry - should they be applauded?

I think so, to have that kind of vindictive audacity is surely a talent unto itself!

[nodrog]

I'm sorry - should they be applauded?

Give them the clap bro!

[Katman]

Give them the clap bro!

Send them around bro.

[nodrog]

Send them around bro.

your apprentice said you were out.