Do Police care about bike theft?

[CHOPPA]

Apparently not....

My mate is selling his RMZ450 on trade me, he got a call and the guy said yup happy to pay asking price and give you some gas money to come to Hamilton to meet me.

It was agreed so he loaded up the bike and the guy told him he would send him the internet confirmation of payment. On the way to Hamilton from Auckland he recieved the confrimation. (Lucky he had internet access)

He then noticed that it was from anz.co.nz@live.com he did some research called ANZ etc and yes it was a fraud.

By this stage he was 10 mins out of Hamilton and about to meet the potential thieves. He called the police and advised them, suggested they come with him and meet him there but the said THEY WERE TOO BUSY!!!!

He decided not to meet the potential scam artists as he was by himself in a foreign town just incase it was gonna be an ambush. So away they get scott free!

BTW Before any of you suggest this guy is soft and should have busted up the would be scam artists, I would say that this is one of the hardest boys you would meet but you have to pick your battles

[bogan]

Getting ignored like that, would kind of make you wonder if he should have called another group of people :bash:

bloody good he noticed though eh!

[CHOPPA]

Getting ignored like that, would kind of make you wonder if he should have called another group of people :bash:

bloody good he noticed though eh!


I can confrim that he certainly has a lot of associates with other types of groups but they were not based in Hamilton and certainly not available with 10 mins notice. But yes in different circumstances these guys could have been in a lot of trouble....

[willytheekid]

Should have told the cops, "no worries!...guess me an this 12 gauge will have to sort it out then" :laugh:...bet they would have offered to turn up then! (probably to arrest ya mate for DARING to protect his own property from theives lol)

Good on him for noticing, tell him to contact the bank, and they will "advise" the poilce to investigate...as stated, this is fraud. (And call the cops again!, the internet transactions/correspondance CAN be tracked)

...mind you...it IS the Tron, so im not surprised the cops are "busy" <_<

[scott411]

Apparently not....



in my experience, they do not care about theft at all, car, bike, house,

[CHOPPA]

in my experience, they do not care about theft at all, car, bike, house,

Na but they pulled him up on the way home and gave him a ticket for no rego.... (jokes)

You know him well Scotty, can you imagine the shock they would have got if he had realised what was going on if they were in hands reach haha

[SMOKEU]

If the police even bother to do their job properly, you can be rest assured the courts will go lightly on the offenders. They'll get their free court appointed lawyer who wil say "Poor Tahu was beaten as a child and his father was a gang member" so no doubt a pathetic sentence will be handed out.

[Zedder]

Maybe he shouda called in a donut theft in progress.

[Asher]

That would involve the police being proactive :wacko:

Should have mentioned there was a speeding ticket in it for them and 10 cars would have turned up.

The serve and protect moto has become a bit of a thing for what not to do.

[avgas]

Do we have police in NZ?

I am yet to hear a "better work story" lately that doesn't involve the road.

Surely one of the cops on here could come up with one.........just one that doesn't involve a WOF, chasing crims in car or speeding tickets.

[oneofsix]

Do we have police in NZ?

I am yet to hear a "better work story" lately that doesn't involve the road.

Surely one of the cops on here could come up with one.........just one that doesn't involve a WOF, chasing crims in car or speeding tickets.

What? on a biker forum you want stories about hookers, death and mayhem? I guess that does make sense.

[avgas]

What? on a biker forum you want stories about hookers, death and mayhem? I guess that does make sense.
Imagine how useless the brothers grimm would have been if they didn't tell people what stories they had all bottled up.
Better work stories are only useful if you tell them to someone.

[glukasil]

it is sad ...have to confirm.

my mum was visiting me last year. she had a walk with her friend on mission bay when some big islander grabbed her purce and tried to run away..
she did not release the handle so he dragged her for few meters and let it go only when other people yelled at him...
we called police straight away but they said.....we wont come as probably this person run away already so bring your mum to police station if you want :(

WTF....

[glukasil]

also...........you can try to use trademe.........find out who was dealing with that person and contact them.....they should keep some contact numbers................make a gang of friends and have a field trip to hamilton...

[Pornstar]

Nice sleuth work by ya mate, save. whats the guys trade me user name?

[Zedder]

That would involve the police being proactive :wacko:

Should have mentioned there was a speeding ticket in it for them and 10 cars would have turned up.

The serve and protect moto has become a bit of a thing for what not to do.

The motto (moto, a new oil?) of the New Zealand Police is: Safer Communities Together, not Serve and Protect.

But hey, get those posts up there.

[oneofsix]

The motto (moto, a new oil?) of the New Zealand Police is: Safer Communities Together, not Serve and Protect.

But hey, get those posts up there.

"Safer Communities Together" - does that mean we can take the law into our own hands in the spirit of togetherness? :corn:

[avgas]

"Safer Communities Together" - does that mean we can take the law into our own hands in the spirit of togetherness? :corn:
Yes.......................

[Zedder]

"Safer Communities Together" - does that mean we can take the law into our own hands in the spirit of togetherness? :corn:

Probably so given the "too busy" theme that seems to be prevailing. However, "cover thine arse first " would be very sensible.

[willytheekid]

"Safer Communities Together" - does that mean we can take the law into our own hands in the spirit of togetherness? :corn:


Yes.......................

FUCK YEAH!!!:wings:

...Ive been waiting soooo long to take this biatch out for a run!

261360

BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!...freeze!!!
...wait:confused:...I might need to work on that part:laugh:

[scott411]

Na but they pulled him up on the way home and gave him a ticket for no rego.... (jokes)

You know him well Scotty, can you imagine the shock they would have got if he had realised what was going on if they were in hands reach haha

yes i can imagine he would not have minded throwing a few, but made the tough call, he must be getting wiser with age,

his brother broke his wrist on saturday in GC riding his dritbike btw

[mossy1200]

My car got stolen and recovered.It was at a tow yard but I couldnt get it back until police had printed it.When I got it back there was no print dust in it and there was a bent fork that the thieves were using to turn the broken ignition in the centre glove box.It had a clear thumb print on it so I took it to Welly central P station.A week later I went back to see if processing the fork turned results and they couldnt find it.I guess they straightened the 2 prongs out and used it to eat lunch with.

My work van got done 3 times.It was printed once out of 3 and I had to drive it down to them to get it done.The other 2 times I was told pointless if there was no blood from the broken window.At least I got the chance to buy new tools 3 times as insurance doesnt cover work tools on home contents policy.

[thecharmed01]

Owch, it's always gutting to hear about shit like that! I wish the cops would get off their lazy butts sometimes. Honestly :bash:

[SPman]

.At least I got the chance to buy new tools 3 times as insurance doesnt cover work tools on home contents policy. Aaaaaargh - always have work tools on a specific policy - the premiums are higher, but, the first clean out of my van was worth 35 yrs premiums......the second break in and clean out was all profit from there on.............

[glukasil]

as a thought................gps locators cost around 50-60 nzd on ebay.........if your bike cost over few grands it worth investing in one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spy-Mini-Realtime-GPS-GSM-GPRS-Tracker-Drive-TK102-/260994499420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc47c035c

[CHOPPA]

About 2 years ago I purchased a bike that ended up being stolen so I decided it was all too easy for thieves to sell stolen unregistered bikes.

I had someone design a website where you could text the chassis number and receive a text back to confirm if it was stolen or had money owing. Much like carjam.... Anyway I did a lot of hard work only to have it squashed by police because they wouldnt be able to supply us with that information!!!

I asked if there was an easy way to check if a bike had been reported stolen and they said the only way to do it is to fill out a bunch of info in a police station. I cant see many people going to those lengths when they purchase a dirt bike.

[Ocean1]

Aaaaaargh - always have work tools on a specific policy - the premiums are higher, but, the first clean out of my van was worth 35 yrs premiums......the second break in and clean out was all profit from there on.............

I've costed work tools insurance several times over the years. I'ts not been worth it, the annual premiums quoted are damn near full replacement value.

[mossy1200]

I've costed work tools insurance several times over the years. I'ts not been worth it, the annual premiums quoted are damn near full replacement value.


I just unload all the good stuff every night.Also if you use the tools at home and at work you can claim so the cheapest bet is to photo your tools beside a bike your working on to prove they are also used at home.I learnt this after the 3rd hit on the van.To be fair they didnt get many tools the last time as all the drills and main tool boxes wernt in the van.

[Ocean1]

I just unload all the good stuff every night.Also if you use the tools at home and at work you can claim so the cheapest bet is to photo your tools beside a bike your working on to prove they are also used at home.I learnt this after the 3rd hit on the van.To be fair they didnt get many tools the last time as all the drills and main tool boxes wernt in the van.

Yeah. I hate it that you have to do all that just to avoid dealing with undesirables. Both sorts.

It's been years since I had anything nicked, to be fair.

[Monsterbishi]

If the police even bother to do their job properly, you can be rest assured the courts will go lightly on the offenders. They'll get their free court appointed lawyer who wil say "Poor Tahu was beaten as a child and his father was a gang member" so no doubt a pathetic sentence will be handed out.

From personal experience, Christchurch police did a fantastic job right from the moment when they caught the tosser who stole my bike, they went to every effort to try and keep the guy from being bailed, they made time to come round at daft hours to collect impact statements, and gather additional evidence, I can honestly say they did their best.

The courts however, not so fantastic... :facepalm:

[SMOKEU]

From personal experience, Christchurch police did a fantastic job right from the moment when they caught the tosser who stole my bike, they went to every effort to try and keep the guy from being bailed, they made time to come round at daft hours to collect impact statements, and gather additional evidence, I can honestly say they did their best.

The courts however, not so fantastic... :facepalm:

That's exactly where the problem lies - I can understand why the police sometimes feel unappreciated by victims of crime since the courts are so slack in punishing real crime.

[SpikedPunch]

About 2 years ago I purchased a bike that ended up being stolen so I decided it was all too easy for thieves to sell stolen unregistered bikes.

I had someone design a website where you could text the chassis number and receive a text back to confirm if it was stolen or had money owing. Much like carjam.... Anyway I did a lot of hard work only to have it squashed by police because they wouldnt be able to supply us with that information!!!

I asked if there was an easy way to check if a bike had been reported stolen and they said the only way to do it is to fill out a bunch of info in a police station. I cant see many people going to those lengths when they purchase a dirt bike.

I actually wrote a site similar to that for my graduation project. It uses user-supplied info though, not from the police. I just haven't gotten around to putting it live since I've been so busy since graduation with new job etc. It's fairly nifty. No text service but there is a mobile friendly version of the site you can check a VIN against to see if it's stolen.

Dummy version of the site is here if anyone wants a play. *DO NOT* put the effort into subbing real information on here since if I make it live eventually I'll scrap the content of the current database and your info will be lost: http://sacha.mccoskrie.natcoll.net.nz/_Assignments/industry/index.php It needs work re: content (buying tips section is copy pasted from another site since I just needed some content on there for my submission), and if I was going to make it live I'd need someone with a bit of spare time to admin it. But yeah, I'll make it live one day if there's any interest.

[hayd3n]

crime is down apparently ,
see if police arnt trying to catch crims the crims arnet getting caught so criminals arnt getting convicted which makes it look like crime is down:facepalm:

[motor_mayhem]

I actually wrote a site similar to that for my graduation project. It uses user-supplied info though, not from the police. I just haven't gotten around to putting it live since I've been so busy since graduation with new job etc. It's fairly nifty. No text service but there is a mobile friendly version of the site you can check a VIN against to see if it's stolen.

Dummy version of the site is here if anyone wants a play. *DO NOT* put the effort into subbing real information on here since if I make it live eventually I'll scrap the content of the current database and your info will be lost: http://sacha.mccoskrie.natcoll.net.nz/_Assignments/industry/index.php It needs work re: content (buying tips section is copy pasted from another site since I just needed some content on there for my submission), and if I was going to make it live I'd need someone with a bit of spare time to admin it. But yeah, I'll make it live one day if there's any interest.

I could help with that if you want. Stolen bikes are a particular grievance of mine and part of my job is keeping some virtual servers in line. Though I have an idea there is something like that already running.

[Paul in NZ]

My personal experience is that Police response to some property theft is very patchy. There is some kind of 'well your insurance company will cover it' mentality that makes them loathe to step in. In fact its this 'small' crime that affects the majority and major crime (murder etc) is still pretty rare. We have certainly had some good results from our Police as well as some dire ones over the years. Much like dealing with any other large organisation.

[nzspokes]

My personal experience is that Police response to some property theft is very patchy. There is some kind of 'well your insurance company will cover it' mentality that makes them loathe to step in. In fact its this 'small' crime that affects the majority and major crime (murder etc) is still pretty rare. We have certainly had some good results from our Police as well as some dire ones over the years. Much like dealing with any other large organisation.

Well we had a brawl next door a few weeks back, we called the cops. We saw them do there work. Bloody legends. I wouldnt have kept my clam with the crap that was being thrown at them. One of them said they had a few jobs like that on this shift.

[Str8 Jacket]

Well this morning, as I was leaving the gym the Police had a group of "homeless people" bailed up over a loaf of bread..... There were three cop cars and at least 5 coppers. The important stuff you see......

[Usarka]

The favoured police method of finding thieves is to stop them for a traffic offence and find stolen shit in their car.

A stolen bike won't fit in a car, so we're shit out of luck.

[oneofsix]

Well this morning, as I was leaving the gym the Police had a group of "homeless people" bailed up over a loaf of bread..... There were three cop cars and at least 5 coppers. The important stuff you see......

"homeless people" stealing bread, they should be transported - :Oops: that's right if they could afford it they would probably pay their own way to Aussie now days, a much warmer place for street living. :corn:

[oneofsix]

The favoured police method of finding thieves is to stop them for a traffic offence and find stolen shit in their car.
.

It was a prime excuse for combining traffic and police so they have to use it. It will be in their KPIs somewhere.

[oneofsix]

crime is down apparently ,
see if police arnt trying to catch crims the crims arnet getting caught so criminals arnt getting convicted which makes it look like crime is down:facepalm:

Crime is down because people have given up reporting it. Did you notice one of the 'reasons' sexual crime was up was that people were reporting it more. Funny how that reporting thing is only applied one way by the govt. Another reason crime is down could be it is now so long since the quakes that Chch has been cleaned out. Or that people are to busy trying to find food that they haven't got time to steal bigger stuff that goes in the stats.


Well this morning, as I was leaving the gym the Police had a group of "homeless people" bailed up over a loaf of bread..... There were three cop cars and at least 5 coppers. The important stuff you see......

[Paul in NZ]

Well we had a brawl next door a few weeks back, we called the cops. We saw them do there work. Bloody legends. I wouldnt have kept my clam with the crap that was being thrown at them. One of them said they had a few jobs like that on this shift.

Exactly my point - they are so busy with this shit your stolen trail bike does not seem like a biggie.

[RDJ]

in my experience, they do not care about theft at all, car, bike, house,

Time taken for a police presence when passing a slow truck in a passing lane @ 108 km/hr: 40 seconds

Time taken for a police presence when come home to find house burgled and vandalised: still waiting.

[CHOPPA]

We had been having problems with Kids in out little village just doing annoying shit like vandelising etc. We had our car broken into twice and it stolen once but put back with its tank empty.

I didnt bother reporting the 2nd and 3rd problems after my experience with the 1st.

I did my research found out where they all hung out and sorted them out one night, the whole neighbourhood has been without a problem since.

I even made it into the local paper hahaha Im not sure if the kids got the message or if the parents took the warning in the paper to not let thier kids out because of the vigilanty justice that was getting dished out haha

[Zedder]

We had been having problems with Kids in out little village just doing annoying shit like vandelising etc. We had our car broken into twice and it stolen once but put back with its tank empty.

I didnt bother reporting the 2nd and 3rd problems after my experience with the 1st.

I did my research found out where they all hung out and sorted them out one night, the whole neighbourhood has been without a problem since.

I even made it into the local paper hahaha Im not sure if the kids got the message or if the parents took the warning in the paper to not let thier kids out because of the vigilanty justice that was getting dished out haha

Don't want to know the details but "Choppa Communities Together" seems to be the answer sometimes.

[avgas]

When I got it back there was no print dust in it and there was a bent fork that the thieves were using to turn the broken ignition in the centre glove box.It had a clear thumb print on it so I took it to Welly central P station.A week later I went back to see if processing the fork turned results and they couldnt find it.I guess they straightened the 2 prongs out and used it to eat lunch with.
"Bro, today some fool wanted me to print a fork, but it was a good fork so I fixed it up and had a feed with it. Bloody good fork"
- Better Work Stories

[CHOPPA]

Don't want to know the details but "Choppa Communities Together" seems to be the answer sometimes.

They community constanble eventually tracked me down. Talked to me for ages, he was trying to explain that its not the answer but he agreed that the tactic worked and asked if id be interested in being involved in the neighborhood watch but there guidelines were a bit limiting....

[James Deuce]

Theft is an Insurance matter.

[Paul in NZ]

They community constanble eventually tracked me down. Talked to me for ages, he was trying to explain that its not the answer but he agreed that the tactic worked and asked if id be interested in being involved in the neighborhood watch but there guidelines were a bit limiting....


I dunno - these guys seemed to be on the right track....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6639828/Men-not-guilty-over-noisy-neighbour-attack

[CHOPPA]

I dunno - these guys seemed to be on the right track....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6639828/Men-not-guilty-over-noisy-neighbour-attack

ahh yeah that doesnt really fit in the Neighbourhood Watch program but I like their style!

[avgas]

Theft is an Insurance matter.
and Murder is a waste disposal problem?

[imdying]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poTA34hKbZw

[kevie]

"Safer Communities Together" - does that mean we can take the law into our own hands in the spirit of togetherness? :corn:

Had some young hoon(s) went smashing mailboxes in town here(including ours) and while I was fixing it cops pulled up ... said to me "can you come tostation and file a report?" I burst out laughing and said to he "What the F%#k for ,,,,,,, you guys wont do jack shit, I will find them and sort it" She said I cant do that ..DOH .... told her corse I can, I have a baseball bat and a good battery drill here LMAO

Told her 2 sets of laws in NZ
State Law = Police
Street Law= Community sort it ........ and if they want it to always be state delt with better get asses off ticketbooks and do some policing

[oneofsix]

Had some young hoon(s) went smashing mailboxes in town here(including ours) and while I was fixing it cops pulled up ... said to me "can you come tostation and file a report?" I burst out laughing and said to he "What the F%#k for ,,,,,,, you guys wont do jack shit, I will find them and sort it" She said I cant do that ..DOH .... told her corse I can, I have a baseball bat and a good battery drill here LMAO

Told her 2 sets of laws in NZ
State Law = Police
Street Law= Community sort it ........ and if they want it to always be state delt with better get asses off ticketbooks and do some policing

See crime is down, that is one less vandalism report, and once you've had a word to the goats involved without the bleeding heart family feel good session there will be no more, vandalism or hoons. The police can then get on with their real jobs of investigating tea parties and traffic. :woohoo:

[RDJ]

Theft is an Insurance matter.

Rubbish. Theft is a crime, stealing someone's property is also stealing someone's time - because we work for what we own. And claiming on insurance results in increased premiums for all insureds - as well as losing more time.

[James Deuce]

Rubbish. Theft is a crime, stealing someone's property is also stealing someone's time - because we work for what we own. And claiming on insurance results in increased premiums for all insureds - as well as losing more time.

You're talking through your arse. The Police will not get involved in burglary, even when you can point to your own stuff in someone else's property. They regard it as an Insurance matter. They claim to not have the resources to investigate, every time.

[Usarka]

Rubbish. Theft is a crime, stealing someone's property is also stealing someone's time - because we work for what we own. And claiming on insurance results in increased premiums for all insureds - as well as losing more time.

Jim was echoing the perception of the cops attitude to thievers, not how it should be. Unfortunately you're both right.

[Ktmboy]

Having also had 3 bikes stolen last year(from a trail ride) I'm all for Choppas method.
On another note we had 3 x 18 year olds smashing our letter box last year at 3 am.
KO'd 2 (let them have a free hit first) and the other took off. Both their mums rang me in the morning from the hospital.
Then had an intruder at midnight trying to get into the shed. The dog bailed him and then I restrained him for 30 minutes until the cops arrived. We have a family plan and being rural one of us is always tasked with hanging in the back ground with MR Pump (six in the mag and one up the spout) just in case.
At trial the defence lawyer tried the ole "he was lost and the got beaten up by the land owner" defence (section 63 I think). Prick had 185 convictions, and one of those was for sex with an animal. Mrs was pissed as the animal was a horse and hers was in the paddock next to the shed. Don't know if he was after the bikes or a bit of nooky...Prick got 50 hrs comunity.
Jeez what a year.

Word gets around a small comunity if you stick up for yourself and your property.
Anyway our bikes never got found(surprise) and the cops did try quite a bit but we had to push them with leads etc.

[Usarka]

Prick got 50 hrs comunity.


I've sat in a pub listening to guys laugh about the PD their doing. PD is a joke to a dole bludger, it's like doing a bit of honest work once in a while.

[RDJ]

You're talking through your arse. The Police will not get involved in burglary, even when you can point to your own stuff in someone else's property. They regard it as an Insurance matter. They claim to not have the resources to investigate, every time.

Projection much? In terms of what orifice you communicate through yourself...

Burglary and vandalism is not only property damage, it is home invasion even if the home is unoccupied. It is a security issue. What's to say that the burglars have gone, or have gone for good. People who get away with burglary unoccupied homes graduate to worse offences.

As for the claim not to have the resources to investigate - heck, they don't even bother to show up.

[scumdog]

As for the claim not to have the resources to investigate - heck, they don't even bother to show up.

You get better service in the deep south.

But then again you get colder shitty weather - AND less little thieving fuckwits, I suspect there's a link between these two...which leads back to my first comment.

[James Deuce]

You get better service in the deep south.

But then again you get colder shitty weather - AND less little thieving fuckwits, I suspect there's a link between these two...which leads back to my first comment.

I'm moving.

[RDJ]

You get better service in the deep south.

But then again you get colder shitty weather - AND less little thieving fuckwits, I suspect there's a link between these two...which leads back to my first comment.

Agreed. With taxpayer-funded sofas, Xboxes and heaters, those floaters in the gene pool would be less likely to bestir themselves out and about to exercise their lonely skillset in cold climes if there was a good chance that they'd actually, y'know, suffer...

[oldrider]

Reminds me of when I was a little kid and sick of home .... went to run away but got to the gate and couldn't find anywhere better to go to! :rolleyes:

Same thing now .... I am beginning to loath this country .... but there is nowhere better to go to! :oi-grr:

Things have definitely changed over time though ... when I was a kid parliament was full of "old bastards" ... now it's just full of "bastards"! :facepalm:

Police used to kick your arse and tell your parents if they caught you up to no good! :spanking: (worked for me!)

Nowadays the police and the parents are probably the ones who are up to no good! ..... Price of progress? :corn:

[scumdog]

Police used to kick your arse and tell your parents if they caught you up to no good! :spanking: (worked for me!) :corn:

If a cop 'kicked a kids arse' these days and the parents found out they would be the first to scream their heads off in the nearest top-cops office...("No, no, not my son John, my son John can do no wrong..."):rolleyes:

Whereas in 'my day' if parents found out a cop had reason to tell you off THEY would kick your arse when you got home...

[Zedder]

If a cop 'kicked a kids arse' these days and the parents found out they would be the first to scream their heads off in the nearest top-cops office...("No, no, not my son John, my son John can do no wrong..."):rolleyes:

Whereas in 'my day' if parents found out a cop had reason to tell you off THEY would kick your arse when you got home...

If parents did a good job, cops wouldn't have to "kick the kid's arse".

[scumdog]

If parents did a good job, cops wouldn't have to "kick the kid's arse".

There's shitload of truth in that statement....:yes:

[oldrider]

If parents did a good job, cops wouldn't have to "kick the kid's arse".

My parents did a good job ...... I just didn't want to take any notice of them at the time .... the deadbeats seemed to be so cool. :oi-grr:

We don't realise the sacrifices our parents make for us until we have to actually do it all for our own kids! .... and so the beat goes on! :love:

Crazy old world I know but it is the only one we have got and it was quite a wild journey getting here too! (apparently!) :blip:

[Zedder]

My parents did a good job ...... I just didn't want to take any notice of them at the time .... the deadbeats seemed to be so cool. :oi-grr:

We don't realise the sacrifices our parents make for us until we have to actually do it all for our own kids! .... and so the beat goes on! :love:

Crazy old world I know but it is the only one we have got and it was quite a wild journey getting here too! (apparently!) :blip:

So you got your arsed kicked by the cops as well as from your old man often I take it?

[SPman]

I'm moving.

Again!....

[CRF119]

There are a lot of scams like that going on. Ive had 2 people try it with my CBR919RR but you can pick them out pretty easy.

What your friend should have said because this worked for use. "I have found a bike thief and i am going to deal to him if you help me or not." Worked great we had 3 police cars arrive after they said they wernt going to come :) We already had the bike back and the suspect was later caught.