The *****wit cyclist thread

[gunrunner]

Was a lovely day yesterday so me and the missus decided to go for a ride around lake Wairarapa via featherston to the Ferry for lunch .
Having filled back up at featherston we proceded towards the lake heading down the long straight and seeing in the distance to cyclists riding single file , we keep heading down the road (2up by the way ) and see a red car coming the otherway . The cyclists riding single file meant heaps of room so i kept going , but up to about 50m away 1 of them swerved out in front of me almost to the centre line of the road as the car was about to pass in the opposite direction .
On with all brakes as i lock it all up coming within a foot of the cyclist . Now my bike has a aftermarket triumph exhaust and people can hear me coming from about a mile away .
From what i saw he did this deliberate .
I almost stopped to give him an ear full , my missus thought about kicking over his bike as we went past .
But if i would of i could only imagine the response ".... fucken bikers etc etc .." So much for sharing the road .

He got the 1 fingered salute as we went past ..


Am i alone on this of have other bikers had some bad experiences with cyclists ..

[SMOKEU]

I hate it when the cunts ride side by side, that should be made illegal as they're not only endangering themselves, but other road users as well.

[quickbuck]

OP,
Yup, total muppet on a bike (The cyclist that is).

I am one of many motorcyclists who actually ride an engineless bike as well.
When out in a bunch ride the TEC is supposed to be keeping an ear out for vehicles behind, and then pass that information up the bunch.
Then the bunch should be at least 2 abreast (as the law requires), or single file if the road is too narrow to be two abreast safely (and lets face it, most roads cyclists and motorcyclist love are too narrow for two abreast).

There is a chance that even with your loud pipes the bunch might not have heard you were exactly where you were. He may have been pulling out to take the lead, or just given up the lead as he was stuffed (most likely). If stuffed, then he might have had a brain fart.

I would have slowed to 30 to 40k (Their speed), gave them a reminder that they need to be more careful, and then rode off. After all, there is enough room in most lanes doe a 44 tonne truck. two cycles and a motorcycle should be able to fit without too much drama, or none of the parties should be riding.

[oneofsix]

When they get in a bunch they get all self important and forget their own safety. Had several issues with them over the Paekakariki Hill on Sunday. Friday and Saturday the loners had not been a problem but come Sunday they must have decided the road belonged to them. The loners would weave all over the lane and the bunches would ride two or three abreast. Perhaps a few tickets for impeding traffic might make them realise their right to the road also comes with responsibilities.
I had one that worried me as I pulled back in, he had decided to chase on a downhill and so had left himself without much room but I didn't have enough visibility to stay out any longer. I had allowed enough space to over take him at the speed he was going when I past him. But that is another rule I guess they get to ignore. :gob:

[quickbuck]

When they get in a bunch they get all self important and forget their own safety......
I guess this is the main problem....

[numbersixteen16]

Cyclists are hated more than motorcyclists, theyre slow, take up the road, and the worst part is they arent recognized as a vehicle. Therefore no acc costs go up for them, or any other expenses. They are basically ignored by everyone except for the driver stuck behind them.

All were told is to look out for them, like theyre pedestrians.

[Fast Eddie]

I was fairly sure that they had to be in single file at all times?

its what I've been yelling at them, as i pass, for years now... oops

They prefer it if u lightly tap their bottoms as u go past. just a light tap, not assault.. :innocent:

[5150]

Last week while taking the missus to work at about 5:30am (still dark), there were two loosers on their push bikes side by side. No hi-viz gear, no lights what so ever, no helmets (beanies), black jerseys and jeans. Both going through a red light. Well fuck me if I didn't pull over and gave them an earfull. They were both surprised as if they didn't know what they done wrong. If that is how these people choose to ride then perhaps the cyclists should be banned from roads or at least pay their fair share of road user charges.

[Fast Eddie]

OP,
After all, there is enough room in most lanes doe a 44 tonne truck. two cycles and a motorcycle should be able to fit without too much drama, or none of the parties should be riding.

aren't we supposed to give them like 1.5 meters room when we pass? when they ride 2 abreast, usually with a decent distance between themselves I havent found much room to pass on my bike without feeling like a dick for being too close..

[iYRe]

I hate it when the cunts ride side by side, that should be made illegal as they're not only endangering themselves, but other road users as well.

utter bollocks.

BECAUSE they are riding side by side, you are not forcing them (us) off the road by trying to squeeze past when you shouldnt.

I ride both cycles and bikes, and have done for 30 years. Cyclists have EVERY right to be side by side and take up as much of the lane as they deem necessary to not be killed by morons who have no idea what they are doing on the road. Just the same as you, as a motorcyclist have every right to ride in any part of your lane and NOT expect a car to be occupying it at the same time you are.

Hell.. if you cant wait a few seconds till you can pass safely.. GET OFF THE FREAKIN ROAD.

Honestly.. it drives me nuts. People trying to tell me how to ride, where to ride, and so on.. when you learn to not endange my life, I'll get out of your way. I had some yobbo yelling at me yesterday because my mate and I were riding side by side. The road was wide enough for cars to pass and still give us 1.5m (and they were)... AND HE WAS GOING THE OTHER WAY! If he had of stopped I would have inserted my bike pump into his rectum.

Anyway.. unless you are out there riding you dont see what we see, you dont know what we know, you dont know what the cyclist considers an acceptable risk, etc. The same things that apply to motorcycling apply to cycling. There are some idiots, and some times stuff happens that you dont expect that other people only see the tail end of and think you're being an idiot.

(and what quickbuck said).

[DODO``]

From what i saw he did this deliberate .


don't get me wrong I hate cyclists too, but then again,, they don't have the convince of the side mirror like we do, why would he do this risking his own life? how daft does he have to be to do this? :facepalm:

[5150]

utter bollocks.

BECAUSE they are riding side by side, you are not forcing them (us) off the road by trying to squeeze past when you shouldnt.

I ride both cycles and bikes, and have done for 30 years. Cyclists have EVERY right to be side by side and take up as much of the lane as they deem necessary to not be killed by morons who have no idea what they are doing on the road. Just the same as you, as a motorcyclist have every right to ride in any part of your lane and NOT expect a car to be occupying it at the same time you are.

Hell.. if you cant wait a few seconds till you can pass safely.. GET OFF THE FREAKIN ROAD.

Honestly.. it drives me nuts. People trying to tell me how to ride, where to ride, and so on.. when you learn to not endange my life, I'll get out of your way. I had some yobbo yelling at me yesterday because my mate and I were riding side by side. The road was wide enough for cars to pass and still give us 1.5m (and they were)... AND HE WAS GOING THE OTHER WAY! If he had of stopped I would have inserted my bike pump into his rectum.

Anyway.. unless you are out there riding you dont see what we see, you dont know what we know, you dont know what the cyclist considers an acceptable risk, etc. The same things that apply to motorcycling apply to cycling. There are some idiots, and some times stuff happens that you dont expect that other people only see the tail end of and think you're being an idiot.

(and what quickbuck said).

With an attitude like that, no wander we fuckin hate you (cyclists)

[Ender EnZed]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/6713121/Helmet-cam-films-Port-Hills-cyclist-assault


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHX33Psbt20&feature=player_embedded

[oneofsix]

With an attitude like that, no wander we fuckin hate you (cyclists)

+1

Oh and iYRe you should really check the road rules and not just talk to your lycra glad buddies. A quote from NZTA for you to consider

they must not ride more than two abreast and they must ride single file if passing another vehicle (including another cycle), or if riding two abreast would disrupt traffic
So get out the frigging way. You only have the same rights as other road users, not more. If a motorcyclist is impeding traffic they are expected to pull to the left and let the traffic pass as well, the difference being they usually do it is only the Lycra glad morons that think they have the right to imped everyone else.

[Bassmatt]

utter bollocks.

BECAUSE they are riding side by side, you are not forcing them (us) off the road by trying to squeeze past when you shouldnt.

I ride both cycles and bikes, and have done for 30 years. Cyclists have EVERY right to be side by side and take up as much of the lane as they deem necessary to not be killed by morons who have no idea what they are doing on the road. Just the same as you, as a motorcyclist have every right to ride in any part of your lane and NOT expect a car to be occupying it at the same time you are.

Hell.. if you cant wait a few seconds till you can pass safely.. GET OFF THE FREAKIN ROAD.

Honestly.. it drives me nuts. People trying to tell me how to ride, where to ride, and so on.. when you learn to not endange my life, I'll get out of your way. I had some yobbo yelling at me yesterday because my mate and I were riding side by side. The road was wide enough for cars to pass and still give us 1.5m (and they were)... AND HE WAS GOING THE OTHER WAY! If he had of stopped I would have inserted my bike pump into his rectum.

Anyway.. unless you are out there riding you dont see what we see, you dont know what we know, you dont know what the cyclist considers an acceptable risk, etc. The same things that apply to motorcycling apply to cycling. There are some idiots, and some times stuff happens that you dont expect that other people only see the tail end of and think you're being an idiot.

(and what quickbuck said).

Like all other road users if you cant do the speed limit get out of the fucken way.
What really pisses me off is when cyclists arrogantly ride down the road two abreast at 20ks/h with absolutely no intention of changing to single file or pulling over to allow you to pass.
If you wouldnt do it in a car dont do it on a pushbike.

[DODO``]

YOUTUBE VIDEO WAS HERE

holy shumoly, that's horrible..

[FJRider]

Like all other road users if you cant do the speed limit get out of the fucken way.
What really pisses me off is when cyclists arrogantly ride down the road two abreast at 20ks/h with absolutely no intention of changing to single file or pulling over to allow you to pass.
If you wouldnt do it in a car dont do it on a pushbike.

The law states that 2 abreast is legal if it is safe to do so. Not just convenient for all other road users.

The assumption that the string of cyclists ahead of you will stay in single file ... is an assumption that may be your undoing ...

[Ender EnZed]

I have no issue with people hating whomever they choose. But anyone who consistently has a problem with overtaking cyclists should just take the bus.

[5150]

+1

Oh and 5150 you should really check the road rules and not just talk to your lycra glad buddies. A quote from NZTA for you to consider

.

I am pretty sure, the road code also states that cyclists should wear protective helmets, be well visible (ie. front and rear light or reflector) and also observe all traffic rules (ie don't run red lights)

[SMOKEU]

utter bollocks.

BECAUSE they are riding side by side, you are not forcing them (us) off the road by trying to squeeze past when you shouldnt.

I ride both cycles and bikes, and have done for 30 years. Cyclists have EVERY right to be side by side and take up as much of the lane as they deem necessary to not be killed by morons who have no idea what they are doing on the road. Just the same as you, as a motorcyclist have every right to ride in any part of your lane and NOT expect a car to be occupying it at the same time you are.

Hell.. if you cant wait a few seconds till you can pass safely.. GET OFF THE FREAKIN ROAD.

Honestly.. it drives me nuts. People trying to tell me how to ride, where to ride, and so on.. when you learn to not endange my life, I'll get out of your way. I had some yobbo yelling at me yesterday because my mate and I were riding side by side. The road was wide enough for cars to pass and still give us 1.5m (and they were)... AND HE WAS GOING THE OTHER WAY! If he had of stopped I would have inserted my bike pump into his rectum.

Anyway.. unless you are out there riding you dont see what we see, you dont know what we know, you dont know what the cyclist considers an acceptable risk, etc. The same things that apply to motorcycling apply to cycling. There are some idiots, and some times stuff happens that you dont expect that other people only see the tail end of and think you're being an idiot.

(and what quickbuck said).

I ride a push bike almost every day, and I do a lot of that riding in fairly heavy traffic. Cyclists who ride side by side are still fuckwits though because they have no right to hold up traffic just to be a cunt. I take all reasonable steps to stay out of the way of other vehicles, because it will be me that's lying on the side of the road all fucked up, not the cager. It's the road users with a selfish attitude like yours who act like they own every road, and that they have more rights than every other road user who are the ones causing the problems.

[rastuscat]

The Canterbury Road Policing Manager (Big Boss POPO) has an interesting office.

It's a small office, by managerial standards.

One wall is wallpapered with letters from cyclists complaining about motorists, especially motorcyclists. Bloody motorcyclists, what are the Police doing about keeping them out of cycle lanes? Blah blah fecking blah.

The opposing wall is papered in letters from motorists, including motorcyclists, complaining about cyclists. Bloody cyclists, when are the Police going to do something about making them stop at red lights, stop signs, keep left, blah blah fecking blah.

It's not the mode of transport that's the problem, it's the attitude and behaviour of the driver, rider, cyclist.

I'm going to suggest a new wallpaper for Da Boss. It'll be one covered in letters from people complaining about knob-end road users, no matter what form of transport they choose.

:brick:

[unstuck]

I'm going to suggest a new wallpaper for Da Boss. It'll be one covered in letters from people complaining about knob-end road users, no matter what form of transport they choose.

:brick:

There are certainly fuckwits out there on and in all sorts of contraptions.:yes:

[oneofsix]

The Canterbury Road Policing Manager (Big Boss POPO) has an interesting office.

It's a small office, by managerial standards.

One wall is wallpapered with letters from cyclists complaining about motorists, especially motorcyclists. Bloody motorcyclists, what are the Police doing about keeping them out of cycle lanes? Blah blah fecking blah.

The opposing wall is papered in letters from motorists, including motorcyclists, complaining about cyclists. Bloody cyclists, when are the Police going to do something about making them stop at red lights, stop signs, keep left, blah blah fecking blah.

It's not the mode of transport that's the problem, it's the attitude and behaviour of the driver, rider, cyclist.

I'm going to suggest a new wallpaper for Da Boss. It'll be one covered in letters from people complaining about knob-end road users, no matter what form of transport they choose.

:brick:

There are 4 sides to his office? How about a wall about truckies and one from truckies? :Offtopic: :corn:

[Bassmatt]

The law states that 2 abreast is legal if it is safe to do so. Not just convenient for all other road users.

The assumption that the string of cyclists ahead of you will stay in single file ... is an assumption that may be your undoing ...




Whats legality got to do with it? Its common courtesy to move over and allow other vehicles to pass if you are holding them up. (This is happening on skinny country roads)

If the "string of cyclists" ahead of me suddenly decides to go two abreast as I am approaching its not going to be my undoing

Just for clarification - cyclists only piss me off when Im in my car. easy enough to pass on the bike

[FJRider]

I am pretty sure, the road code also states that cyclists should wear protective helmets, be well visible (ie. front and rear light or reflector) and also observe all traffic rules (ie don't run red lights)

In the original post ... what were the cyclists doing that was against the law ... ???

[Ender EnZed]

If the "string of cyclists" ahead of me suddenly decides to go two abreast as I am approaching its not going to be my undoing

Yeah? We'll just see how well done up you are after taking out a dozen cyclists.

[Bassmatt]

Yeah? We'll just see how well done up you are after taking out a dozen cyclists.

Done up? What you talkin about?

[Ender EnZed]

Done up? What you talkin about?

Undoing? Done up? If it wasn't your undoing then you'd still be done up.

[oneofsix]

I am pretty sure, the road code also states that cyclists should wear protective helmets, be well visible (ie. front and rear light or reflector) and also observe all traffic rules (ie don't run red lights)

:Oops: I must be more careful when replying - like that's going to happen. Original corrected, it was iYRe I should have been replying to. :cry:

[avgas]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/6713121/Helmet-cam-films-Port-Hills-cyclist-assault


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHX33Psbt20&feature=player_embedded
http://www.planetbmx.com/shop/images/uploads/ody_trip_trap_pedal.jpg
Bear Trap Pedals.
Fucking up morons-who-can't-get-out-of-way legs since ages ago.

I used to sharpen mine before nationals. Kick off from the gate took on a whole new meaning back then.

Clip-in pedals are for pussies who ask "please may I pass" for 5 minutes.

[5150]

In the original post ... what were the cyclists doing that was against the law ... ???

Umm, being tossers? :laugh:

[FJRider]

Whats legality got to do with it? Its common courtesy to move over and allow other vehicles to pass if you are holding them up. (This is happening on skinny country roads)

If the "string of cyclists" ahead of me suddenly decides to go two abreast as I am approaching its not going to be my undoing

"Common courtesy" is NOT a requirement of law.

Aside from the extreme likelyhood of both you, and the cyclists, ending up in a pile on the road.
(That could be seen as your undoing) ... running into the back of a group of cyclists you have seen a few hundred metres prior to the collision ... could not be seen as entirely in your favour in court.

Should you wish to argue the point ... do it ... and let us know how you got on.

[FJRider]

Umm, being tossers? :laugh:

In my trolling (through the tansport act :lol:) I haven't seen that as against the law. Got a link for it ... ???? :innocent:

[Sable]

If he had of stopped I would have inserted my bike pump into his rectum.

I bet you wear all that lycra stuff too, homo

[oneofsix]

The law states that 2 abreast is legal if it is safe to do so. Not just convenient for all other road users.

.

You are wrong. The first part is correct but you fail when it comes to the responsibility to other road users. They have the same responsibility as the other road users. See post #14. No one has the right to imped other road users. All have the responsibility to kept left and let others past if they are slower. This negates the 2 abreast when other road users need to pass, it makes two abreast unsafe. The bit about being safe doesn't say safe for the cyclists only, it must be safe for all road users meaning others must be able to get safely past.

[5150]

In my trolling (through the tansport act :lol:) I haven't seen that as against the law. Got a link for it ... ???? :innocent:

HEHE :laugh:

My point was that I don't care if they want to ride single file or side by side. As long as it is safe to do so. Obviously on a wide streatch of road will be safer then narrow one lane country road. My point was more to do with how they act in town with no helmets, no lights and running red lights when they feel like it. And their attitude towards other road users.

[rastuscat]

In my trolling (through the tansport act :lol:) I haven't seen that as against the law. Got a link for it ... ???? :innocent:

Being A Tosser In A Public Place By Day (or Night, alternate clause)

Land Transport Act 1998 Section 37.

Penalty $3000 and a public rogering.

[Bassmatt]

"Common courtesy" is NOT a requirement of law.

Aside from the extreme likelyhood of both you, and the cyclists, ending up in a pile on the road.
(That could be seen as your undoing) ... running into the back of a group of cyclists you have seen a few hundred metres prior to the collision ... could not be seen as entirely in your favour in court.

Should you wish to argue the point ... do it ... and let us know how you got on.

You may have missed my edit of an earlier post stating I get pissed off when in my car, so Im not likely to end up in a pile on the road.

You must be real fun to live/interact with if your only determinant around doing/not doing something is whether its legal or not.

[Ender EnZed]

You may have missed my edit of an earlier post stating I get pissed off when in my car, so Im not likely to end up in a pile on the road.

You are going to be in a massive pile of shit though, albeit metaphorical.

[oneofsix]

You may have missed my edit of an earlier post stating I get pissed off when in my car, so Im not likely to end up in a pile on the road.

You must be real fun to live/interact with if your only determinant around doing/not doing something is whether its legal or not.

:laugh: you don't want to scratch the fairings, however the bullbars on the 4wd are already scratched to buggery so a few cyclists and lycra threads aren't going to make much difference :killingme

[gunrunner]

You are wrong. The first part is correct but you fail when it comes to the responsibility to other road users. They have the same responsibility as the other road users. See post #14. No one has the right to imped other road users. All have the responsibility to kept left and let others past if they are slower. This negates the 2 abreast when other road users need to pass, it makes two abreast unsafe. The bit about being safe doesn't say safe for the cyclists only, it must be safe for all road users meaning others must be able to get safely past.


Amen to that ..

[FJRider]

Being A Tosser In A Public Place By Day (or Night, alternate clause)

Land Transport Act 1998 Section 37.

Penalty $3000 and a public rogering.

I stand corrected ... :killingme

[oneofsix]

I stand corrected ... :killingme

:no: please bend over for the public rogering :buggerd:

[Bassmatt]

You are going to be in a massive pile of shit though, albeit metaphorical.

No, we are obviously imagining quite different scenarios. I have no intention of EVER running a cyclist of the road.
The premise was that some cyclists ahead of me in single file suddenly changed to two abreast as I was approaching. I envisioned this to be at a point where I would be unable or it would be very difficult to take evasive action. I am talking about being in a car btw.
Even if I did get in the shit I would prefer that to being the cyclist I had just run over.

[FJRider]

... This negates the 2 abreast when other road users need to pass, it makes two abreast unsafe. The bit about being safe doesn't say safe for the cyclists only, it must be safe for all road users meaning others must be able to get safely past.

As with most cases in transport law ...it is the responsibility of the following vehicle(s) to pass the vehicle(s) ahead of them safely.

If ... in overtaking ... if it is unsafe to pass another vehicle ... it is illegal to do so.

The Road Code states you should "Share the Road" ... not take priority of/on the road ...

Those that choose to take the view of the OP ... are taking the choice to only observe/claim breach of the laws and rules that they find (in)convenient at the time.

[oneofsix]

As with most cases in transport law ...it is the responsibility of the following vehicle(s) to pass the vehicle(s) ahead of them safely.

If ... in overtaking ... if it is unsafe to pass another vehicle ... it is illegal to do so.

The Road Code states you should "Share the Road" ... not take priority of/on the road ...

Those that choose to take the view of the OP ... are taking the choice to only observe/claim breach of the laws and rules that they find (in)convenient at the time.

you poor delude bastard. There are laws that place responsibility on the person being overtaken which, if you had a real license and not a Sanitarium one, you might have had to learn. When being overtaken you have to keep left, must not increase your speed etc, etc. As stated before the safety aspect of the 2 abreast doesn't just apply to the cyclist, and as shown in other posts their 2 abreast behaviour isn't even safe for them. Riding 2 abreast on a narrow rode with a vehicle approaching from behind is unsafe and stupid.

[Gremlin]

Doesn't have to be deliberate either. Some cyclists really are in their own little world, and paying no attention to vehicles coming up behind.

I had a very close shave with one down by Lake Manapouri (gijoe can testify, as he was following behind going :eek5:). Coming up behind and approaching an uphill right hander, all is well, I take up a position just left of centre line. I'm metres from the cyclist (their companion 10m odd further ahead) when they suddenly veer out to the centre line. Why, no idea, no time to think, I'm on the brakes as hard as possible to avoid running them over. I consider the oncoming but discount in case of oncoming vehicles and as I close up behind the cyclist (just slowing down in time) a car comes the other way.

I move pass, trying to get the seat out of my arse, and when we left Manapouri they came in, gave me a bit of a feeble wave... Pretty sure they were tourists and it was accidental, but who cares, it was so god damn close.

Before motorcycling I was a competitive road cyclist, so I can see both sides. There are baddies on both sides... including cyclists I have seen deliberately try to block other motorists... pity they've never tried with me.

[Flip]

This is what I used to get all the fucking time.

Three abreast being cunts.
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Now if thats not bad enough still holding up the traffic a mile later, still 3 abreast going up the hill.

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Now 4 or is this 5 abreast and 3 tosser toss pots decide that its better to ride on the wrong side of the road on a blind corner.

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They wonder why other road users hate them. If I rode like this I would be killed.

[FJRider]

You may have missed my edit of an earlier post stating I get pissed off when in my car, so Im not likely to end up in a pile on the road.

I did ... you can't imagine my disappointment ... :innocent:


You must be real fun to live/interact with if your only determinant around doing/not doing something is whether its legal or not.

There are many things that piss me (and you) off ... :yes: such is life.

The actions of a few (tosser ???) cyclists acting within (loosely) their rights as a road user ... is something we as motorcyclists (or road user of any type) have to look out for and live with. LIVE being the preferred option of/for ALL of the road users concerned.

[jasonu]

i ride a push bike almost every day, and i do a lot of that riding in fairly heavy traffic. Cyclists who ride side by side are still fuckwits though because they have no right to hold up traffic just to be a cunt. I take all reasonable steps to stay out of the way of other vehicles, because it will be me that's lying on the side of the road all fucked up, not the cager. It's the road users with a selfish attitude like yours who act like they own every road, and that they have more rights than every other road user who are the ones causing the problems.

nail on head!

[Fast Eddie]

This is what I used to get all the fucking time.



looks like govenors bay/port hills round chch. yep get that all the time riding around there aye and up the port hills/summit road too.

[iYRe]

With an attitude like that, no wander we fuckin hate you (cyclists)

So.. you hate me because I dont want to die or be horrifically injured because you are too selfish to slow down for a few seconds and ride responsibly?

right.

[rossirep]

utter bollocks.

BECAUSE they are riding side by side, you are not forcing them (us) off the road by trying to squeeze past when you shouldnt.

I ride both cycles and bikes, and have done for 30 years. Cyclists have EVERY right to be side by side and take up as much of the lane as they deem necessary to not be killed by morons who have no idea what they are doing on the road. Just the same as you, as a motorcyclist have every right to ride in any part of your lane and NOT expect a car to be occupying it at the same time you are.

Hell.. if you cant wait a few seconds till you can pass safely.. GET OFF THE FREAKIN ROAD.

Honestly.. it drives me nuts. People trying to tell me how to ride, where to ride, and so on.. when you learn to not endange my life, I'll get out of your way. I had some yobbo yelling at me yesterday because my mate and I were riding side by side. The road was wide enough for cars to pass and still give us 1.5m (and they were)... AND HE WAS GOING THE OTHER WAY! If he had of stopped I would have inserted my bike pump into his rectum.

Anyway.. unless you are out there riding you dont see what we see, you dont know what we know, you dont know what the cyclist considers an acceptable risk, etc. The same things that apply to motorcycling apply to cycling. There are some idiots, and some times stuff happens that you dont expect that other people only see the tail end of and think you're being an idiot.

(and what quickbuck said).

you sound like one of the fags in ya tight lycra gear thinking he is in the tour da france,
but really you and ya bell end mates are just a bunch of road hogging fuckwits and have to remember you dont pay ANYTHING to use the road on ya stupid lil push bikes so ya shouldnt be riding side by side and making people wait for you..!! you should be getting out of our way..

[iYRe]

I bet you wear all that lycra stuff too, homo


you probably wear a helmet and proper motorcycling gear... homo.

[oneofsix]

you probably wear a helmet and proper motorcycling gear... homo.

Bets hypothermia :yes:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motoring/6717884/Scantily-clad-speeder-suffers-hypothermia
Another reason to wear ATGATT.

[iYRe]

I ride a push bike almost every day, and I do a lot of that riding in fairly heavy traffic. Cyclists who ride side by side are still fuckwits though because they have no right to hold up traffic just to be a cunt. I take all reasonable steps to stay out of the way of other vehicles, because it will be me that's lying on the side of the road all fucked up, not the cager. It's the road users with a selfish attitude like yours who act like they own every road, and that they have more rights than every other road user who are the ones causing the problems.

Well, there you go.
I ride almost every day, across half of Auckland, and I try to be polite, courteous, and safe on the road.. And if I am riding with someone else, and its safe to do so, we ride 2 abreast BECAUSE IT IS SAFER. I also have all the proper lights and safety gear, because even though it looks gay, I am legally required to do so (fwiw, 55$ fine for no front light/reflector, and the same for rear). It pisses me off when people, especially motorcyclists who should know better, rag on cyclists. You'd be pissed off if I was telling you that you were an asshole for trying to stay alive on your motorbike.

I wont take shit from car drivers about how I ride my bike, and I wont take shit from car drivers or motorcyclists about how I ride my push-bike. If I make a mistake I am the first to admit it. But since I am still alive and accident free for 30 years, I'll carry on doing it my way.

[neels]

The ACC argument is bollocks, I'm pretty sure most of the cyclists you see on the road would also own at least one vehicle they pay ACC levies on, not to mention on their wages. Based on that argument we should also ban rugby/soccer/hockey players who ignorantly occupy and prevent me from using perfectly good parks I pay rates for on saturday mornings, because they aren't paying ACC levies specifically for their chosen sporting activity.

I've encountered plenty of cyclists with a death wish, almost collected a lady when she veered across to the centreline on the summit road while wobbling her way downhill as I was about to pass, and had near misses with cyclists appearing randomly from the middle of bunches or on the wrong side of the road on blind corners.

I also ride road bikes, and wear lycra (cycle shorts are ideal for wearing when cycling, who've thought) but stay away from bunch rides except with people I know aren't suicidal and actually have some road sense.

[5150]

So.. you hate me because I dont want to die or be horrifically injured because you are too selfish to slow down for a few seconds and ride responsibly?

right.

Noooo, I hate you because you are a self centered selfish fuckwit.............. :motu:

[iYRe]

Noooo, I hate you because you are a self centered selfish fuckwit.............. :motu:


ahh right.. self preservation is evil.

note: this thread is proof that there are just as many dickhead motorcyclists as there is cyclists. More.. even. Since most of us are painfully aware of how easy we can get hurt by idiots like ^

[oneofsix]

The ACC argument is bollocks, I'm pretty sure most of the cyclists you see on the road would also own at least one vehicle they pay ACC levies on, not to mention on their wages. Based on that argument we should also ban rugby/soccer/hockey players who ignorantly occupy and prevent me from using perfectly good parks I pay rates for on saturday mornings, because they aren't paying ACC levies specifically for their chosen sporting activity.

.

By your argument because I pay ACC levies on my car and salary I don't have to pay them on my bike :woohoo:

As for the sports clubs they do pay levies in their fees.

[SMOKEU]

And if I am riding with someone else, and its safe to do so, we ride 2 abreast BECAUSE IT IS SAFER.

No, it's not safer to ride 2 abreast, it's fucking dangerous and anyone who has any sense will know that. If you want to stay safe on a push bike then stay as far left as reasonably possible to keep away from other traffic.

[Kickaha]

When they get in a bunch they get all self important and forget their own safety.
KB group ride anyone?

I am pretty sure, the road code also states that cyclists should wear protective helmets, be well visible (ie. front and rear light or reflector) and also observe all traffic rules (ie don't run red lights)
Probably says something similar about motorcyclists somewhere as well, but I keep forgetting the road rules only apply to other peoeple

[5150]

ahh right.. self preservation is evil.

note: this thread is proof that there are just as many dickhead motorcyclists as there is cyclists. More.. even. Since most of us are painfully aware of how easy we can get hurt by idiots like ^

There is a BIG difference between self preservation and being an idiot like you. To self preserve is to take all safety aspects seriously and ride safely not all over the road like a fuckin moron. If you read my earlier post you will see that I have nothing against riding side by side, but only when safe to do so. Riding all over the road just so other road users have to slow down and can't safely pass you, which incidentally what you are promoting is called being a fuckwit. And your attitude is certainly not helping your cause.

[Bassmatt]

And if I am riding with someone else, and its safe to do so, we ride 2 abreast BECAUSE IT IS SAFER. .

Please explain this. I dont really cycle so you may have to keep it simple for me :blink:

[neels]

Some interesting bits from the NZTA road code for cyclists...

•If the road is too narrow to safely allow vehicles to pass, you are in danger of being run off the road or hit by a passing car. In this situation it is acceptable to move further out into the path of traffic to prevent other users from passing you. If you do have to move further out, remember to find a gap, signal your intentions and move across when it is safe. Once you have moved out try to ride as quickly as you can and allow the following traffic to pass when the road widens.

•There must never be more than two cyclists cycling next to one another. When the road is narrow or vehicles cannot pass, everyone should cycle in single file.

•When following a vehicle, you must have enough clear space to stop, should the vehicle in front stop suddenly. The exception is where cyclists are participating in council-approved cycle events that allow cyclists to closely follow one another (typically referred to as ‘drafting’ or ‘paceline cycling’). When riding closely, any sudden movements by any cyclist in the paceline can result in serious crashes. A good way to tell if you are leaving a safe distance between you and the cyclist in front is to use the two second rule, described in the box below.

So taking the lane is acceptable when necessary, don't ride 2 abreast if you're getting in the way, and most interestingly, bunch riding is a no-no except for council-approved events.

[Maha]

When they get in a bunch they get all self important and forget their own safety.

Its called a Peloton...and when you read up on Peloton riding, they are very similar to motorcycling group riding etiquette.
Some motorcyclists are also prone to the.. 'When they get in a bunch they get all self important and forget their own safety'

[Bassmatt]

Its called a Peloton...and when you read up on Peloton riding, they are very similar to motorcycling group riding etiquette.
Some motorcyclists are also prone to the.. 'When they get in a bunch they get all self important and forget their own safety'

Well yes, but we are bashing cyclists at the moment....

[oneofsix]

Its called a Peloton...and when you read up on Peloton riding, they are very similar to motorcycling group riding etiquette.
Some motorcyclists are also prone to the.. 'When they get in a bunch they get all self important and forget their own safety'

I did mean bunch. Peloton is the main bunch in a cycle race. I was referring to the whole bunch of cyclists 'together' whether they be in the Peloton, the breakaway bunch or the lead or tail riders. When a group get together for there ride, no matter how they are spaced out when you come across them, then their behaviour is worse than when they are alone. Peloton also implies race which in turn means closed or at least warnings on the public roads, this bitch is about how they fail to share the road with the motorised public when the road hasn't been 'booked' for them.

From what I have read on KB I would believe you on your similarity with group rides however so far all the group rides I have been on have been well behaved and respected other road users.

[Maha]

Well yes, but we are bashing cyclists at the moment....

I get it, we need to stay on topic..........for once ;)

[Kickaha]

From what I have read on KB I would believe you on your similarity with group rides however so far all the group rides I have been on have been well behaved and respected other road users.

You can't have been here very long

[James Deuce]

Good on the bus driver.

Bear in mind the cyclist was doing nothing wrong.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b7AVC1YCcO0

[mossy1200]

utter bollocks.

BECAUSE they are riding side by side, you are not forcing them (us) off the road by trying to squeeze past when you shouldnt.

I ride both cycles and bikes, and have done for 30 years. Cyclists have EVERY right to be side by side and take up as much of the lane as they deem necessary to not be killed by morons who have no idea what they are doing on the road. Just the same as you, as a motorcyclist have every right to ride in any part of your lane and NOT expect a car to be occupying it at the same time you are.

Hell.. if you cant wait a few seconds till you can pass safely.. GET OFF THE FREAKIN ROAD.

Honestly.. it drives me nuts. People trying to tell me how to ride, where to ride, and so on.. when you learn to not endange my life, I'll get out of your way. I had some yobbo yelling at me yesterday because my mate and I were riding side by side. The road was wide enough for cars to pass and still give us 1.5m (and they were)... AND HE WAS GOING THE OTHER WAY! If he had of stopped I would have inserted my bike pump into his rectum.

Anyway.. unless you are out there riding you dont see what we see, you dont know what we know, you dont know what the cyclist considers an acceptable risk, etc. The same things that apply to motorcycling apply to cycling. There are some idiots, and some times stuff happens that you dont expect that other people only see the tail end of and think you're being an idiot.

(and what quickbuck said).

Hmm sounds like the subject cyclist failed to give 3 second hand signal before pulling out to pass his mate to me.
Nobody is having a dig at all cyclists but he should be looking after his own best interests by looking before pulling out.
I got a guy that rides down my street using the whole lane slowing traffic and abusing anyone that trys to get past him.

Guess EVERY type of road user has a few FORKwits that let the rest down and give others a bad name in the process.We have a few ourselves.

[tigertim20]

I have fuckall time for cyclists - the eat a decent portion of ACC costs, but they pay zero levies.
They pay no taxes or charges to use the road, where we get raped on both fuel costs with their ridiculously high tax content, as well as hugre rego costs, then these cunts, who seldom have lights and never indicate their intentions, ride two abreast, or weave all over the fucking road like they own it, then have the audacity to act indignant as though they have a greater right than me to be there.

Im fine with cyclists who are courteous, and accept that more often than not, they are an impedance to the flow of traffic, and make every effort to stay far far left, indicate their intentions, and generally acknowledge that they are on a road that vehicles are PAYING to be on and display courtesy in accordance with that understanding.

I have on occasion been known to scoot past and deal out a hefty wallop to the backside of cyclists who seem to either TRY to be arseholes, or are just too ignorant to pay attention to legitimate road users. Fuck 'em.

[Kickaha]

I have fuckall time for cyclists - the eat a decent portion of ACC costs, .
How big a portion?

[quickbuck]

you sound like one of the fags in ya tight lycra gear thinking he is in the tour da france,
but really you and ya bell end mates are just a bunch of road hogging fuckwits and have to remember you dont pay ANYTHING to use the road on ya stupid lil push bikes so ya shouldnt be riding side by side and making people wait for you..!! you should be getting out of our way..Excuse us... We probably have paid more toward the road than you son..... 5 Road registered vehicles in the shed... Grow up and pay your dues before the flame war starts...

Next time you are out on your faviourite track beware of a 12 tonne tractor around that blind bend...... Yup, they will get out of your way real fast.... NOT!!!

[Sable]

This has been posted elsewhere but it is still hilarious..

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[mossy1200]

Everyone should settle.

Fact is a FEW cyclists like to ride like they own the road and abuse everyone else.If this leads to their downfall well they dont need told twice.

Big deal.If it upsets you dont post.I just treat cyclists like everything else on our roads.Dangerous and unpredictable.

[Kickaha]

Everyone should settle.

Fact is a FEW cyclists like to ride like they own the road and abuse everyone else.If this leads to their downfall well they dont need told twice.

Big deal.If it upsets you dont post.I just treat cyclists like everything else on our roads.Dangerous and unpredictable.

Change the word cyclist to motorcyclist and that statement would be just as accurate

[chasio]

I have on occasion been known to scoot past and deal out a hefty wallop to the backside of cyclists who seem to either TRY to be arseholes, or are just too ignorant to pay attention to legitimate road users. Fuck 'em.

Trolling or true? If true, what do you think is achieved by it, other than you get to indulge both your anger management issues and S&M predilection at the same time?

[mossy1200]

I dont condone that kind of behaviour but fork its funny

[chasio]

This has been posted elsewhere but it is still hilarious..


He missed a few.

[Katman]

The stench of hypocrisy is strong in this one.

[mossy1200]

Change the word cyclist to motorcyclist and that statement would be just as accurate

As stated in my previous post.

[haydes55]

For someone who doesn't pay any levies for the road they sure do have a heightened sense of ownership.

This morning I was commuting to work, coming up to a red light wanting to turn left, 3 cars ahead of me all going straight and a cyclist in the cycle lane waiting at the front. I rode down the Cycle lane and waited behind the cyclist (Who also turned left). While waiting the lady on the bike turned around and yelled at me "This is a cycle lane you shouldn't be in it!".

Ignored the bitch went around the corner, into my lane and carried on past her.

Why would someone get angry at me for that when I didn't hold her up at all? There were no cyclists behind me that I held up, didn't impede any car or cycles lines.

[quickbuck]

The stench of hypocrisy is strong in this one.

The human psyche is pretty amazing at times...
Must spread rep etc.

[Fast Eddie]

Trolling or true? If true, what do you think is achieved by it, other than you get to indulge both your anger management issues and S&M predilection at the same time?

I got a phone number out of it once.. turns out some cyclist girls enjoy a tap from a motorcyclist

[nzspokes]

For someone who doesn't pay any levies for the road they sure do have a heightened sense of ownership.

This morning I was commuting to work, coming up to a red light wanting to turn left, 3 cars ahead of me all going straight and a cyclist in the cycle lane waiting at the front. I rode down the Cycle lane and waited behind the cyclist (Who also turned left). While waiting the lady on the bike turned around and yelled at me "This is a cycle lane you shouldn't be in it!".

Ignored the bitch went around the corner, into my lane and carried on past her.

Why would someone get angry at me for that when I didn't hold her up at all? There were no cyclists behind me that I held up, didn't impede any car or cycles lines.

I read a study from ACC for Cyclists paying levies. Turns out for the cost of claims vs number of ks traveled it would be about $14 a year. And it would cost ACC about that on compliance costs so in the long run its not worth it.

So your upset that somebody got upset about you riding illegally?

[Fast Eddie]

aren't we allowed in the bus lanes or something... some lane that cars arent allowed anyway.. im sure of it

[haydes55]

I read a study from ACC for Cyclists paying levies. Turns out for the cost of claims vs number of ks traveled it would be about $14 a year. And it would cost ACC about that on compliance costs so in the long run its not worth it.

So your upset that somebody got upset about you riding illegally?

If I ride through a cycle lane with the clutch in (not motor driven) how am I any different by law from a cycle? I was in the lane for 3m before the lights. I've traveled longer in cycle lanes in my car crossing over the lane to turn down a side road (where there is a turn off road crossing over a cycle lane).

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[nzspokes]

If I ride through a cycle lane with the clutch in (not motor driven) how am I any different by law from a cycle? I was in the lane for 3m before the lights. I've traveled longer in cycle lanes in my car crossing over the lane to turn down a side road (where there is a turn off road crossing over a cycle lane).


^Thats where I'm talking about driving in a cycle lane longer than I rode this morning.

Is it legal for you to be in that lane?

[Berries]

If I ride through a cycle lane with the clutch in (not motor driven) how am I any different by law from a cycle?
Do your pedals go round and round?

[Str8 Jacket]

Fucking pedestrians annoy the hell outta me. Bastards come out from in between cars and jay walk right in front of you, just as you get a green. Kind of like they're just daring you yo hit them, and boy do I try. Skate boarders should be banned too. Don't get me started on BMX riders.....

[mossy1200]

Fucking pedestrians annoy the hell outta me. Bastards come out from in between cars and jay walk right in front of you, just as you get a green. Kind of like they're just daring you yo hit them, and boy do I try. Skate boarders should be banned too. Don't get me started on BMX riders.....

If your trying to hit pedestrians jay walking and cant you must have bad reaction time at the lights or the slippy clutch from Hell.

[haydes55]

Do your pedals go round and round?
I make the motions :yes:

Is it legal for you to be in that lane?
Yes you have to drive along the cycle lane to get to the road.

[5150]

This has been posted elsewhere but it is still hilarious..


HAHA!!!! Fuckin funny as....:killingme:clap::Oops:

[5150]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3kAoLusAg&feature=g-vrec&context=G274710eRVAAAAAAAABQ

:corn:

[sleemanj]

Is it legal for you to be in that lane?

Actually, from the LTRUR...

"
However, a driver may drive wholly or partly in a lane that is unavailable to the driver under subclause (1) or clause 4.6(2) to (4) if—
(a)it is impracticable to proceed otherwise because of—
(i)the size of the driver's vehicle; or
(ii)the size of the load on the driver's vehicle; or
(iii)a road obstruction; and
(b)driving in that lane can be done safely and without impeding other traffic.
"

If somebody were to try their luck in court, a traffic stopped in the lane maybe could be called a road obstruction, and provided that the motorcyclist used the lane safely and without impeding cyclists...

I am not a lawyer.

[rustic101]

I bet you wear all that lycra stuff too, homo

A whole lota protection here....

261762

[joan of arc]

Whether we are driving or riding we get in a zone. Speed is constant and whilst we remain alert to any potential hazards, there is a good feeling to travelling along at a regular pace. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone found that there is endorphin release when riding or driving is going smoothly. And suddenly there is slow traffic in front. Doesn’t matter if it is a car, truck or cyclist, the calm is disturbed, the endorphin rush ebbs. The more we have to decelerate the greater the decrease in positive feeling. And generally with cyclists we have to slow way more than with other vehicles, so there goes any positive feeling. Withdrawal and the pissed off feeling that comes with it.

So yep, cyclists are welcome to ride but don’t slow other fucking traffic down

[pritch]

I have fuckall time for cyclists - the eat a decent portion of ACC costs, but they pay zero levies.


Such paople may exist but i don't know any. I pay ACC levies on a bike, a moped, and soon, on a car as well.
So some dickhead sees me on my pushbike and assumes I'm not paying ACC levies. Bollocks!

Mind you, I avoid the road as much as possible and use the walkway when I can. It's not that the pedestrians are more sensible than the idiot drivers, it's basically just that most of them are softer than a 4WD. :whistle:

[mossy1200]

Whether we are driving or riding we get in a zone. Speed is constant and whilst we remain alert to any potential hazards, there is a good feeling to travelling along at a regular pace. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone found that there is endorphin release when riding or driving is going smoothly. And suddenly there is slow traffic in front. Doesn’t matter if it is a car, truck or cyclist, the calm is disturbed, the endorphin rush ebbs. The more we have to decelerate the greater the decrease in positive feeling. And generally with cyclists we have to slow way more than with other vehicles, so there goes any positive feeling. Withdrawal and the pissed off feeling that comes with it.

So yep, cyclists are welcome to ride but don’t slow other fucking traffic down

Cyclists make me angry.You wont like me when im angry???

[roadracingoldfart]

utter bollocks.

BECAUSE they are riding side by side, you are not forcing them (us) off the road by trying to squeeze past when you shouldnt.

I ride both cycles and bikes, and have done for 30 years. Cyclists have EVERY right to be side by side and take up as much of the lane as they deem necessary to not be killed by morons who have no idea what they are doing on the road. Just the same as you, as a motorcyclist have every right to ride in any part of your lane and NOT expect a car to be occupying it at the same time you are.




So you dont adhere to the law of , stay as far left as practible and dont hinder the flow of traffic travelling at a faster rate ??.
I also ride a pushbike and have riden motorcycles for decades, its not always safe for either to be on the road but if some pushbike riders want to make it really dangerous for themselves then just keep thinking that bullit proof is a rite of passage.

[DODO``]

Reading this thread,, I can't help myself but to wonder.. Why is cyclists trying to take on the bikers here at KIWI BIKER?
You know you will never win an argument here.
Just because KiwiBiker allows room to be aware of other form of transportation on the road, doesn't give cyclists the right to justify their right OVER bikes.
Make a KIWI CYCLIST forum and justify your argument there. This is BIKERS forum you know :bleh: :woohoo:

[mossy1200]

Reading this thread,, I can't help myself but to wonder..
Why is cyclists trying to take on the bikers here at KIWI BIKER?
You know you will never win an argument here.
Make a KIWI CYCLIST forum and justify your argument there. :woohoo:


They ride both but the thing they forget is they probably ride a pushbike safer than most.They feel hurt that we have a bad impression of how they ride.Seems the same as the impression tin tops have of motorcyclists.Maybe they getting to many hurts and are ready to explode.We love them really like Honda riders but dont tell them that .:shit:

[oneofsix]

Fucking pedestrians annoy the hell outta me. Bastards come out from in between cars and jay walk right in front of you, just as you get a green. Kind of like they're just daring you yo hit them, and boy do I try. Skate boarders should be banned too. Don't get me started on BMX riders.....

oh yeah I hear you. Leaving work last week nearly cleaned out a boarder about to board straight across the street. Tonight there were 5 peds walking down the street, spread out right across it and not one on the footpath either side, boy did they get a shock when a bike appeared behind them :devil2: talk about scattering left and right. Ok, so the street does look a like a service lane but the way the couriers and taxis use it they were luck it was a bike that could use the gap created by their scattering.

[Bikemad]

For someone who doesn't pay any levies for the road they sure do have a heightened sense of ownership.

This morning I was commuting to work, coming up to a red light wanting to turn left, 3 cars ahead of me all going straight and a cyclist in the cycle lane waiting at the front. I rode down the Cycle lane and waited behind the cyclist (Who also turned left). While waiting the lady on the bike turned around and yelled at me "This is a cycle lane you shouldn't be in it!".

Ignored the bitch went around the corner, into my lane and carried on past her.

Why would someone get angry at me for that when I didn't hold her up at all? There were no cyclists behind me that I held up, didn't impede any car or cycles lines.

ya should have yelled back.........."lycra makes ya arse look fat........you shouldn't be in it"

[Padmei]

Meh... nothing really constructive to add. Been a competitive cyclist, tri & multisporter - all the colours of the lycra- as well as event organiser & race director.

In short Cyclists are fuckwads. They pretty much do as they want to & blame others. Some you could bang their heads together & their arrogant attitudes still wouldn't change, others are pretty paranoid about their survival on two wheels that they get really territorial with 'their' space.


All i've learnt in my time on bikes (& try to pass on to the kids) is that you can get pretty fucked up by traffic so I play it pretty defensively.

[5150]

We love them really like Honda riders but dont tell them that .:shit:

Lay off the Honda riders, It's the cyclists we are bitching about ;)

[Berries]

Lay off the Honda riders, It's the cyclists we are bitching about ;)
Lycra is lycra.

[orangeback]

loving it , the spandex worriers have been giving me the shits in the port hills for years . its not the mtn bikers but it the mid life crises road cyclist that are a real pain, every weekend on one of the tightest roads in canterbury .

[Swoop]

Another epic thread full of win.


A workmate cycles in the mornings around Tamaki waterfront with the wannabe Tour de frog groups. His comments are totally backing up the proposition that cyclists' are cranially deficient in groups of more than ONE rider.:facepalm:

[avgas]

Whether we are driving or riding we get in a zone. Speed is constant and whilst we remain alert to any potential hazards, there is a good feeling to travelling along at a regular pace. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone found that there is endorphin release when riding or driving is going smoothly. And suddenly there is slow traffic in front. Doesn’t matter if it is a car, truck or cyclist, the calm is disturbed, the endorphin rush ebbs. The more we have to decelerate the greater the decrease in positive feeling. And generally with cyclists we have to slow way more than with other vehicles, so there goes any positive feeling. Withdrawal and the pissed off feeling that comes with it.

So yep, cyclists are welcome to ride but don’t slow other fucking traffic down
I just rubbed one out imagining you reading this.
It was beautiful and I cried a little.
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bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

[iYRe]

Please explain this. I dont really cycle so you may have to keep it simple for me :blink:

Bicycles are not wide, and they are a little slower than traffic (I travel at 30-50kmh depending on where I am), and other road users will attempt to fit their vehicles in the same portion of the lane that we are in, often forcing us completely off the road. At least once a day I am forced to stop or take evasive action because even though I am almost in the gutter, and on my own, some idiot in a car, truck or a motorcycle decides they have to pass me despite there being no room because of traffic coming the other way. If they wait 20 secs, they can then pass safely, just as they would if they were passing anything else.

Riding 2 abreast on a wider road means we are more visible, and it is less likely for someone to force us off the road.

As per the rode code:

What cyclists would like drivers to know

Cycles are small and can be difficult to see, especially at night. Don't just look for car-sized vehicles.
Cyclists can feel threatened by inconsiderate driving. Cyclists have a right to space on the road and need extra room at intersections and roundabouts.
Cyclists may ride away from the kerb or occupy a lane – not because they want to annoy drivers, but to:

avoid drains, potholes or roadside rubbish
be seen as they come up to intersections with side roads
discourage drivers from squeezing past where it's too narrow.


Cyclists turning right are exposed. They need extra consideration from drivers, especially on multi-laned roads with fast-moving traffic.
Cyclists can be forced into faster traffic by vehicles that are parked where they shouldn't be:

in cycle lanes
on broken yellow lines
near intersections.


Cyclists are dazzled by headlights on full beam, just like other road users – remember to dip your lights for cyclists as well as other motor vehicles.
Cyclists can travel quickly, capable of speeds of 40km/h or more.
Cyclists have a right to use the roads and to travel safely and enjoyably. Please understand and respect their needs.



and:



Hazards like parked cars, potholes, glass, litter and opening car doors may cause cyclists to veer off-line and move into your path. Because of this, give cyclists plenty of room when passing them. Ideally, allow at least 1.5 metres between you and the cyclist.
Wait for a clear space before passing a cyclist on a narrow road.
At intersections, apply the same rules to cyclists that you would to any other vehicle on the road. Take care to indicate turns.
Only drive across cycle lanes when entering or leaving side roads, driveways or parking spaces.
If you are crossing a cycle lane, give way to cyclists before you cross.
Take extra care around young cyclists.
You must not drive in a cycle lane except for a maximum of 50 metres when entering or leaving side roads, driveways or parking spaces.



Just as there are dickhead motorcyclists, there are dickhead cyclists. It is unfair to classify all cyclists or motorcyclists as dickheads (in face, it is insane).

Just so we are clear, here are the rules from the road code:

Equipment rules

Cycle helmets must: be worn; meet an approved standard and be securely fastened.
Cycles must have brakes and reflectors.
Cycle lights must be on when it's dim or dark.
Doubling is not allowed unless there is a special seat called a pillion fitted and there are footrests for the passenger. The legs of small children must be protected from the wheels. Passengers must wear cycle helmets.
Cycles can tow a specially designed cycle trailer but must not be fitted with a sidecar.

Behaviour rules




Always ride as near as you can to the left side of the road. If you are holding back traffic you must move as far as possible to the left side of the road to allow traffic to pass, as soon as you can. However, you do need to cycle in a sensible position on the road to keep safe. See Cyclist responsibilities for more information.
Two cyclists can ride next to each other but should take into account the keep left rule and not hold back traffic. Three or more people cycling next to each other is illegal, except in the case of a road race that has been given traffic management approval from a road controlling authority.
Ride in single file when passing vehicles.
Use hand signals to show other road users what you are doing.
When cycling behind other cyclists and vehicles you must be able to stop, keeping clear of the vehicle in front, if it stops suddenly. It is recommended you keep at least two seconds behind.
You are only allowed to cycle on the footpath if you are:

delivering newspapers or mail, or
you are riding a small wheeled recreational device that has a wheel diameter of less than 355 millimetres (typically tricycles or small children's bicycles).


Don't park your cycle so that it blocks paths or driveways.
It is illegal for a cyclist to be towed on their cycle.
Loads need to be secure, must not touch the ground and mustn't extend more than one metre out in front of or behind the wheels, or more than half metre on either side.
You must obey all signs and signals.
You must obey the give way rules and give way at pedestrian crossings.
You must obey local bylaws (these often cover cycles and parks).
Give way to emergency vehicles when their sirens are on or when lights are flashing. It is a good idea to pull over to the kerb and stop.


As long as there is room to pass, we are entitled to ride side by side. If you dont like it, take a frickin train.

[nodrog]

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1333962494697699953.jpg

[oneofsix]

......

yep that about sums them up, by one of their own too.

[Fast Eddie]

We love them really like Honda riders but dont tell them that .:shit:

gotcha! :chase:

[Fast Eddie]

As long as there is room to pass, we are entitled to ride side by side. If you dont like it, take a frickin train.

id focus on the bit where it says taking into account to not hold up traffic myself..

so if there is a car or bike behind you.. move over and don't ride 2 abreast. the problem is that when 2 abreast on some roads there is no room to pass at all and the cyclists often seem to stay 2 abreast but sometimes they move. depends on the individual eh. plenty of caravans on the open rd piss me off more. plus I'v seen 3 abreast plenty which seems to be illegal according to above text. They will get a spanking :spanking:

they don't bother me that much, gotta feel sorry for them in that lycra and sperm shaped helmet

[oneofsix]

As long as there is room to pass, we are entitled to ride side by side. If you dont like it, take a frickin train.

But the whole bitch is about them riding two abreast when it makes it hard to pass whereas if they were single file you could safely pass and those try to dictate to the motorist when they will allow them to pass. Your own posted say it is up to the vehicle wanting to pass to chose a safe place, it is not up to the cyclist. Ride single file when a vehicle is approaching from behind so they can better judge when it is safe to pass and to maximise the safe passing opportunities, or to put it your way, only ride two abreast when it is safe, and that means for all road users, for you to do so.

[Paul in NZ]

Look - I cycled 20km each way to work for frigging years in ChCh, I have family who are competitive cyclists and I'm not the sort of person who would go out of my way to hurt anyone deliberately with a vehicle - cyclist or not.

The problem I have with cyclists are two fold.

1. They demand their 'rights' but happily ignore the rights of others. a little example - I'm in the city and pull up to a red light. Mr Angry cycles up on my inside to the front of the queue and does not want to put his feet down (stupid pedal shoe thingies) so wobbles about all over the show right at my front wheel and potentially in front of my bumper. Light turns green, hes still in a too high gear and he lurches off in front of me at 0.4kph. I have to fuckin wait for him to get his shit together and wait for him yet I was at the front of the queue?? Hey - its not a biggie BUT if I held him up or made him wait its all angry fingr man and slapping bonnets - if you want to filter do it safely and don't hold up people - we ALL have places to be.

2. Stop putting me at risk. Yeah - right might be on your side in your head but I'm trying to control several tonnes of hurtling steel here and the laws of physics apply. It does not stop instantly because you think you are 'right' to jerk me around. You could kill someone with that shit.

As for mr angry in the video on the port hills. Pretty well sums it up - cyclists get so wound up they hate each other as well. I bet the 'victim' edited all the needling and petty ranting he did before the incident. Guess what junior you pissed off the wrong dude that day!

[willytheekid]

The Canterbury Road Policing Manager (Big Boss POPO) has an interesting office.
It's a small office, by managerial standards.
One wall is wallpapered with letters from cyclists complaining about motorists, especially motorcyclists. Bloody motorcyclists, what are the Police doing about keeping them out of cycle lanes? Blah blah fecking blah.
The opposing wall is papered in letters from motorists, including motorcyclists, complaining about cyclists. Bloody cyclists, when are the Police going to do something about making them stop at red lights, stop signs, keep left, blah blah fecking blah.
It's not the mode of transport that's the problem, it's the attitude and behaviour of the driver, rider, cyclist.
I'm going to suggest a new wallpaper for Da Boss. It'll be one covered in letters from people complaining about knob-end road users, no matter what form of transport they choose.
:brick:

REALLY!<_<
And yet none of us have EVER seen a popo "check point" or "Safety campaign" targeting...sorry..."focused" on scooters or cyclists??
...why is this?
I mean...your boss has thousands of letters clearly stating a problem exists?...I thought good management acted on such things :innocent:

[5150]

As long as there is room to pass, we are entitled to ride side by side. If you dont like it, take a frickin train.

If you ride your motorbike with the same mentality as you ride your bicycle, then God help us all.....:facepalm:

[Tigadee]

This has been posted elsewhere but it is still hilarious..

:no: I'm ashamed to say it but I did find that very hilarious! :laugh:

Maybe them cyclists ride two abreast so they can look like this
http://www.fernhouse.com/pics/earlycars03.jpg

[nodrog]

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g133383606037474075.jpg

[oneofsix]

If you ride your motorbike with the same mentality as you ride your bicycle, then God help us all.....:facepalm:

Guess why cagers hate us, bloody cyclists on bikes. :shit:

[5150]

:no: I'm ashamed to say it but I did find that very hilarious! :laugh:




Don't be :laugh:

[iYRe]

If you ride your motorbike with the same mentality as you ride your bicycle, then God help us all.....:facepalm:


and yet, I got my motorcycle license in 1982 (age 15), and have had only one accident (in 1984 age 17).

so.. I guess what ever I am doing, I am doing it right.

oneofsix:

Yeah, I know, some people are doing it wrong, but that doesn't mean everyone is, or that every situation where cyclist's riding 2 abreast hold up a car for a few seconds is wrong. Sometimes it _is_ safer, just like it is safer to ride staggered on a group ride on motorbikes (well, they are probably opposite in the percentage of time it is safer, but the point remains).

[5150]

and yet, I got my motorcycle license in 1982 (age 15), and have had only one accident (in 1984 age 17).

so.. I guess what ever I am doing, I am doing it right.



Consider your self lucky then. And how many times have you eaten dirt while on the bicycle?

[oneofsix]

and yet, I got my motorcycle license in 1982 (age 15), and have had only one accident (in 1984 age 17).

so.. I guess what ever I am doing, I am doing it right.

oneofsix:

Yeah, I know, some people are doing it wrong, but that doesn't mean everyone is, or that every situation where cyclist's riding 2 abreast hold up a car for a few seconds is wrong. Sometimes it _is_ safer, just like it is safer to ride staggered on a group ride on motorbikes (well, they are probably opposite in the percentage of time it is safer, but the point remains).

You know we don't bitch about where it is safe to do so :eek5:. :shit: I try to give the peddles as much space as I can and have more than once received an appreciative wave where I have delayed my overtake until it was save for the cyclist and myself.
But as I said earlier when a group get together, and it might be for their Sunday ride, they seem to get stupidly self important and try to dictate their views and presumed rights at the expense of others.

[iYRe]

Consider your self lucky then. And how many times have you eaten dirt while on the bicycle?

never.. yet..

[5150]

never.. yet..

Lucky you don't live in the Tron then

[FJRider]

The problem I have with cyclists are two fold.

1. They demand their 'rights' but happily ignore the rights of others.

As do many Motorcyclists ... AND Motorists of ALL types.


2. Stop putting me at risk.

We are ALL aware of the risks in our chosen activity ... aren't we ... ??? but often choose to ignore them for the reasons mentioned in (1.) More thought needs to be put into risk management. Few however ... actually understand what that is. And ... want their "adventure activities" ... with no risk.
Most people have more issues with being inconvenienced ... than "put at risk" ... regardless of their chosen means of transport ... and activity.


As for mr angry in the video on the port hills ....

I've seen a few "edited" versions of motorcycle vid's that feature riders being "put at risk" ... only when the full circumstances are revealed, is the full situation made clear. Not always in the favour of the one posting the vid.

[willytheekid]

....If they wait 20 secs, they can then pass safely, just as they would if they were passing anything else.

As long as there is room to pass, we are entitled to ride side by side. If you dont like it, take a frickin train.

:facepalm:

Lets see.

...first off, the attitude of "They can wait 20sec's...THEN they can pass"....seems to sum you and the majority of cyclists up.

And yes...you ARE entitled to ride side by side...so are motorcyclists!...but we don't do it at 30-40kph whilst blocking the flow of traffic with the above mind set AND a superiority complex <(If you dont like it, take a frickin train!...bitch please!...If I don't like it...I'll make damn sure you know!:laugh:)

My main question "for safetys sake"....why arn't cyclists forced to fit wing mirrors?? (I know...its common sense to see whats behind you...what am I thinkin:shit:) :shifty:

[iYRe]

You know we don't bitch about where it is safe to do so :eek5:. :shit: I try to give the peddles as much space as I can and have more than once received an appreciative wave where I have delayed my overtake until it was save for the cyclist and myself.
But as I said earlier when a group get together, and it might be for their Sunday ride, they seem to get stupidly self important and try to dictate their views and presumed rights at the expense of others.

Well, as I said, there are some dickheads.

[5150]

My main question "for safetys sake"....why arn't cyclists forced to fit wing mirrors?? (I know...its common sense to see whats behind you...what am I thinkin:shit:) :shifty:

Easy answer. Too busy being self richeous to be looking in the mirror

[iYRe]

:facepalm:

Lets see.

...first off, the attitude of "They can wait 20sec's...THEN they can pass"....seems to sum you and the majority of cyclists up.

And yes...you ARE entitled to ride side by side...so are motorcyclists!...but we don't do it at 30-40kph whilst blocking the flow of traffic with the above mind set AND a superiority complex <(If you dont like it, take a frickin train!...bitch please!...If I don't like it...I'll make damn sure you know!:laugh:)

My main question "for safetys sake"....why arn't cyclists forced to fit wing mirrors?? (I know...its common sense to see whats behind you...what am I thinkin:shit:) :shifty:


They CAN wait 20 seconds.. its not long.

I prefer to keep my life and limbs, and my bike... in one piece. If that means pissing off the odd person, well.. tough shit.

In most places where we are doing 30-50 kmh, the speed limit is 50kmh, so at 40 kmh we're hardly holding anyone up.. everywhere else there is usually more than enough room for everyone.

[oneofsix]

Easy answer. Too busy being self richeous to be looking in the mirror

they might catch a glimpse of themselves in the mirrors and realise how silly they look.

[willytheekid]

They CAN wait 20 seconds.. its not long.

I prefer to keep my life and limbs, and my bike... in one piece. If that means pissing off the odd person, well.. tough shit.

In most places where we are doing 30-50 kmh, the speed limit is 50kmh, so at 40 kmh we're hardly holding anyone up.. everywhere else there is usually more than enough room for everyone.

Completely agree...If your NOT obstructing traffic and traveling at a good pace there usually IS more than enough room for all :yes:
...Im all for people being polite to each other on the road, its a death trap for all if we gave no quarter at all.

What about these:
http://www.techyzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Winkkuonbicycle.jpg
http://www.techyzone.com/reviews/winkku-review-bicycle-mirror-indicator-and-lights/

Whats your view on mirrors?...they would help wouldn't they?...would it be a good move to make it compulsory for ALL road users to have them? (including cyclists)
Personally...I think alot of accidents and cycle fatalities could be avoided if these where used

[oneofsix]

now that indicators are being allowed on cycles there would be a place for those with their inbuilt indicators.

[5150]

I've seen a few "edited" versions of motorcycle vid's that feature riders being "put at risk" ... only when the full circumstances are revealed, is the full situation made clear. Not always in the favour of the one posting the vid.

You are in luck. I just happen to have found it for you. Enjoy :shifty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPLYStAuZt0&feature=relmfu

[iYRe]

Lucky you don't live in the Tron then


so, you're threatening to run me off the road.. cool.

We know who to look for when there are any hit and runs in the 'Tron.

[jasonu]

Such paople may exist but i don't know any. I pay ACC levies on a bike, a moped, and soon, on a car as well.
So some dickhead sees me on my pushbike and assumes I'm not paying ACC levies. Bollocks!

:

But no levies paid on your bicycle.
If you use your (and many others) argument then paying levies on one of your vehicles should also cover anyother vehicles you may have.

[Bassmatt]

I prefer to keep my life and limbs, and my bike... in one piece. If that means pissing off the odd person, well.. tough shit.


Stupidist fucken thing I have heard in a long time! :facepalm:

[jasonu]

Riding 2 abreast on a wider road means we are more visible, and it is less likely for someone to force us off the road.
Do you draw straws on who rides on the outside or do you take turns?

As long as there is room to pass, we are entitled to ride side by side. If you dont like it, take a frickin train.
Being entitled doesn't necessarily make it a good idea...

[5150]

so, you're threatening to run me off the road.. cool.

We know who to look for when there are any hit and runs in the 'Tron.

Nooo, no such thing. I was merly referring to the behaviour of our cyclists in my city.

[avgas]

Lucky you don't live in the Tron then
Nah we kill the stupid ones off up here. Less hassle.
He will only find this out after they bury him.

[willytheekid]

so, you're threatening to run me off the road.. cool.

We know who to look for when there are any hit and runs in the 'Tron.

:laugh:...your safe mate, 5150 wouldn't run anyone off the road:no:...he's usually far to busy just trying to stay on it himself! :laugh: (its even been reported that he's...actually a nice guy:eek5:...mad as a rabid dog tho!:laugh:)

[5150]

:laugh:...your safe mate, 5150 wouldn't run anyone off the road:no:...he's usually far to busy just trying to stay on it himself! :laugh: (its even been reported that he's...actually a nice guy:eek5:...mad as a rabid dog tho!:laugh:)

:eek5::wacko::crazy: :confused: :no:

[Zedder]

Completely agree...If your NOT obstructing traffic and traveling at a good pace there usually IS more than enough room for all :yes:
...Im all for people being polite to each other on the road, its a death trap for all if we gave no quarter at all.

What about these:
Whats your view on mirrors?...they would help wouldn't they?...would it be a good move to make it compulsory for ALL road users to have them? (including cyclists)
Personally...I think alot of accidents and cycle fatalities could be avoided if these where used

Yep Wtk, it would be great if everyone was more polite on the road.

From what I've heard from road cyclists, they're quite divided about mirrors and other safety gear (interesting that). Mirror shake and too much reliance on them was an issue but "dorkyness" was one reason for not using them. Having said that, some helmets (including motorbike ones) are available with inbuilt mirrors and are becoming popular.

[5150]

"dorkyness" was one reason for not using them.

Yup. Better to be dead AND cool, then alive and uncool

:laugh:

[Asher]

My problem with cyclists isnt the way they behave around cities, to me them running red lights and weaving through traffic is not really any different than us filtering, we can so we do.
My problem is the way they act on the other roads, they pick the most narrow, windiest roads with heaps of bind spots and go way slower than any other road users.
Sure these roads are the most scenic but they are also the most dangerous and hardest for others to get past.

[Zedder]

Yup. Better to be dead AND cool, then alive and uncool

:laugh:

Humans, very different since bloody always.

[Maha]

They out number motorcyclists in NZ by 10-1...if only they would help a little in their rego levies things wouldn't be so tough on us and they could then, and only then, can they consider themselves as being part of the road user elite.

[MisterD]

Yup. Better to be dead AND cool, then alive and uncool

:laugh:

You know the phrase "Many a true word spoken in jest." Don't you?

There are a complex set of rules (http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/) to this cycling malarky.

[willytheekid]

You know the phrase "Many a true word spoken in jest." Don't you?

There are a complex set of rules (http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/) to this cycling malarky.

:shit: WOW!!

Rule #1 // Obey The Rules ....well...thats me out!:motu:
Rule #90 // Never Get Out of the Big Ring...:confused:...do I WANT to even know?? :sick:

So many bullshit rules!...no wonder there always...:innocent:"cranky"!:eek::laugh:

[neels]

So many bullshit rules!...no wonder there always...:innocent:"cranky"!:eek::laugh:
Some of them actually make sense.

At least I'm in compliance with rule #12 (for pushbikes and motorbikes), and I suspect I've reached s-1 in both cases ;)

[5150]

You know the phrase "Many a true word spoken in jest." Don't you?

There are a complex set of rules (http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/) to this cycling malarky.

WOW!!!:wacko: All those rules, and not a brain cell among them......:confused:

[willytheekid]

Some of them actually make sense.

At least I'm in compliance with rule #12 (for pushbikes and motorbikes), and I suspect I've reached s-1 in both cases ;)

:laugh:...yup but some of them are...:wacko:?

Rule #21 // Cold weather gear is for cold weather.
Knickers, vests, arm warmers, shoe covers, and caps beneath your helmet can all make you look like a hardman, when the weather warrants their use.

KNICKERS! :blink:.....KNICKERS make you look like a hardman!?:blink:....I am so confused :confused:

But pure bloody Genius to figure out cold weather gear is for...COLD WEATHER! :yes:....Not naked! (see thats where I was going wrong!:yes:)

[5150]

KNICKERS! :blink:.....KNICKERS make you look like a hardman!?:blink:....I am so confused :confused:



You ride a Harley? Want to look like a hardman? Wear knickers. Problem solved :laugh:

[iYRe]

You know the phrase "Many a true word spoken in jest." Don't you?

There are a complex set of rules (http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/) to this cycling malarky.

they are somewhat tongue in cheek..

although, rule #5 should apply to all the whiners on here.

[willytheekid]

You ride a Harley? Want to look like a hardman? Wear knickers. Problem solved :laugh:

I ride Yamaharley!:eek:...must buy Knickers!....with or without tassels?:confused:


they are somewhat tongue in cheek..

although, rule #5 should apply to all the whiners on here.

Shouldnt you be busy with Rule#33?? Oh and...do you "use Baxter to keep them smooth"???

http://www.velominati.com/accessories-and-gear/reverence-baxter-aftershave/
"Baxter Aftershave is one of the most important cremes I have in my arse-nal, aside from the testosterone rub, the alcohol swabs I use before injecting my EPO, and Butt Butter or whatever my chamois creme is called.
:facepalm:...:laugh:....must...get....nodrog!...he 'd friggin LOVE this :love::laugh:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080311093160/nonciclopedia/images/5/5e/Super-gay.jpg

[iYRe]

I ride Yamaharley!:eek:...must buy Knickers!....with or without tassels?:confused:



Shouldnt you be busy with Rule#33?? Oh and...do you "use Baxter to keep them smooth"???

http://www.velominati.com/accessories-and-gear/reverence-baxter-aftershave/
"Baxter Aftershave is one of the most important cremes I have in my arse-nal, aside from the testosterone rub, the alcohol swabs I use before injecting my EPO, and Butt Butter or whatever my chamois creme is called.
:facepalm:...:laugh:....must...get....nodrog!...he 'd friggin LOVE this :love::laugh:


nope, only rules 5 and 9.

The biggest giggle is people who think it's serious. "I saw a cyclist, he looked snobby, so they all must be stuck up gay snobs, and belong to a secret society where they fondle themselves and apply cream to each other asses".

Alternatively: "i saw a guy riding a motorbike, he was wearing leather and looked like a gang member, so all bike riders must be P smokin criminals who rape women and beat children".

[MisterD]

Shouldnt you be busy with Rule#33??

I'm delighted to see that you've taken Rule#43 on board, 5150 should take note.

[willytheekid]

nope, only rules 5 and 9.

The biggest giggle is people who think it's serious. "I saw a cyclist, he looked snobby, so they all must be stuck up gay snobs, and belong to a secret society where they fondle themselves and apply cream to each other asses".

Alternatively: "i saw a guy riding a motorbike, he was wearing leather and looked like a gang member, so all bike riders must be P smokin criminals who rape women and beat children".

Ahhh touche iYRe...touche


I'm delighted to see that you've taken Rule#43 on board, 5150 should take note.

:eek:..told ya I read them!:yes:

[BigAl]

they are somewhat tongue in cheek..

although, rule #5 should apply to all the whiners on here.

What a knob end, isn't it time to shave your poofter legs and mince around in Lycra!

[5150]

I'm delighted to see that you've taken Rule#43 on board, 5150 should take note.

Yeah, lets all sit around a camp fire, hold hands and sing fuckin "Cumbayaa" :facepalm:

[Sable]

And iYre can insert bike pumps in his rectum

[240]

Cyclists are nothing but a fucken pain in the arse on the roads, make the fuckwits pay acc and rego.
I mean for fucks sake basically they are riding round on kids toys.!

[Swoop]

C'mon folks, this thread needs reviving!
Perhaps some pictures will help?

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[unstuck]

Someone who acts like a fuckwit on a cycle, probably acts like a fuckwit when driving a car or riding a motorcycle too. Maybe we should take the focus off the cyclists and just focus on the fuckwits in general.;)

[avgas]

nope, only rules 5 and 9.

The biggest giggle is people who think it's serious. "I saw a cyclist, he looked snobby, so they all must be stuck up gay snobs, and belong to a secret society where they fondle themselves and apply cream to each other asses".

Alternatively: "i saw a guy riding a motorbike, he was wearing leather and looked like a gang member, so all bike riders must be P smokin criminals who rape women and beat children".
See motorbikes are way cooler.

Your never going to see a tv series about baddasses on 10 speeds.

[avgas]

Road Cycling.
Like masturbating. An activity that should not involve or impede others.

[Flip]

I have seen a few instances of this lycra loutish behaviour over the last few years.

I saw one where a lycra lout abused the fuck out of a old lady driver until her old husband got out of the car and bashed the rider.

Has the yellow shirt plonker been charged yet?

[Bassmatt]

Road Cycling.
Like masturbating. An activity that should not involve or impede others.

Damn Im doing it wrong then. :shutup:

[Zedder]

I have seen a few instances of this lycra loutish behaviour over the last few years.

I saw one where a lycra lout abused the fuck out of a old lady driver until her old husband got out of the car and bashed the rider.

Has the yellow shirt plonker been charged yet?

Last I read today is the cops are confident they know who he is. The other rider though doesn't know whether he'll press charges.

[avgas]

Damn Im doing it wrong then. :shutup:
No you referring to it wrong. What you talking about is actually sex.

[george formby]

How pertinent... If your on the road you have to look after yourself & manage your own risk regardless of motivation.

On my way home last night, dusk, howling gale, pishing down, can't see shit, I some how managed to register two cyclists ahead both wearing dark clothing. No lights until I was on top of them & then the rear rider switched on a wee red flashing LED, must have been saving batteries..... The front rider had a white light... aw, sharing.
Point is, they were virtually invisible in the circumstances, made worse by the lights of on coming traffic which forced me to follow them because they were out wide avoiding road side crap. No space to get past courteously & safely. They were taking a HUGE risk in the conditions, any accident would have been the drivers fault but how do you avoid something you cannot see?

I hope they got to there destination safely, probably church with faith like that.

[Bassmatt]

No you referring to it wrong. What you talking about is actually sex.

No its called mutual masturbation. You are missing out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation

Sexual intercourse, also known as sex, copulation or coitus, commonly refers to the insertion of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction
:oi-grr:

[Swoop]

See motorbikes are way cooler.

Your never going to see a tv series about baddasses on 10 speeds.

"Sons of Lycra"?

[Tigadee]

"Sons of Lycra"?

More like Sons of Avanti...
http://www.seeklogo.com/images/A/Avanti_Bikes-logo-45D5AAAE40-seeklogo.com.gif

And now for something different...
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0906/spandex-fail-bike-ass-demotivational-poster-1244856356.jpg

[avgas]

No its called mutual masturbation. You are missing out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation

Sexual intercourse, also known as sex, copulation or coitus, commonly refers to the insertion of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction
:oi-grr:
You sure you don't ride a honda?

[SimJen]

Spotted on my road.
3 abreast in the distance just metres from the sign, in my mind that makes them fair game!!

[Bassmatt]

You sure you don't ride a honda?

Yes because only males participate in masturbation. :facepalm:

[Flip]

One great thing about the bike rage incident is it shows just what a bunch of tossers the lycra louts are. In this instance it just involved themselves and no other innoncent motorists.

[Nova.]

One great thing about the bike rage incident is it shows just what a bunch of tossers the lycra louts are. In this instance it just involved themselves and no other innoncent motorists.

I wouldn't of just stood their if that was me, although, quite alot of the trail riders/downhill riders don't have a big build, so he may not of been able to do much :angry2:

[Padmei]

Last I read today is the cops are confident they know who he is. The other rider though doesn't know whether he'll press charges.

Have you guys seen the whole video tho? If i was fat buzzy bee boy I would have decked him. Camera boy was riding like a cock & wouldn't drop back. He knew what he was doing antagonising fat buzzy bee boy, does a prissy moan & gets a half slapping. He then starts screaming like a girlie. He learnt a lesson most of us learnt early on at school.

[FJRider]

Have you guys seen the whole video tho? If i was fat buzzy bee boy I would have decked him. Camera boy was riding like a cock & wouldn't drop back. He knew what he was doing antagonising fat buzzy bee boy, does a prissy moan & gets a half slapping. He then starts screaming like a girlie. He learnt a lesson most of us learnt early on at school.

Up to the time "fat buzzy bee boy" bitch-slaps "camera boy" ... "fat buzzy bee boy" broke no laws. He just inconvenienced mr "camera boy".

It was a public place, not a public road.

[Zedder]

Up to the time "fat buzzy bee boy" bitch-slaps "camera boy" ... "fat buzzy bee boy" broke no laws. He just inconvenienced mr "camera boy".

It was a public place, not a public road.

Yep, pretty much bang on FJRider.

Mr Buzzy was not being very courteous although camera boy did the "right thing" by asking to overtake earlier. However, camera boy was tailgating which is a real no no.

[neels]

Yep, pretty much bang on FJRider.

Mr Buzzy was not being very courteous although camera boy did the "right thing" by asking to overtake earlier. However, camera boy was tailgating which is a real no no.
If you've asked someone if you can pass and they've said yes, you stay right on their wheel so when they move over you can get past when they make room.

Mr Buzzy replied in the affirmative to the request to pass, then continued to ride like a twat, and several times looked like he was leaving room then blocked any opportunity to pass him.

[Zedder]

If you've asked someone if you can pass and they've said yes, you stay right on their wheel so when they move over you can get past when they make room.

Mr Buzzy replied in the affirmative to the request to pass, then continued to ride like a twat, and several times looked like he was leaving room then blocked any opportunity to pass him.

Staying right on someones wheel is not the way to gain friends. It creates an annoying, unnecessary and dangerous "mind your back" mentality.

[Tigadee]

Tune in for the new season of...

[ellipsis]

...I took this as just another intolerance to other forms of life, thread that human, and KB members like to rattle their foibles on...I hate fuckwit cyclists, dont get me wrong but I was just about bored shitless with reading this one, then bang, like a smakaroo blurdy, a scene unfolds in front of me tonight when I was off to a meeting in the city....a knobsuck in Lycra zooms through a red light on Colombo Street, just on dark, a 3mm red dot off the back of his helmet was all I saw...some poor cunt in a car who had the right of way through the lights, ends up with this fuckwit biting his bonnet...the doodle headed dick with a bent bicycle was jumping up and down and shouting obscenities at a poor little office worker who was terrified...the lights changed and we all got Italian and screamed and shouted at the cyclist dong to pick his bike up and fuck off...if it wasn't so cold I reckon I could have left my vehicle and kicked the twat in his lightly lycra clad ghoulies...just for the giggle mind you...no malice...

[Nova.]

Have you guys seen the whole video tho? If i was fat buzzy bee boy I would have decked him. Camera boy was riding like a cock & wouldn't drop back. He knew what he was doing antagonising fat buzzy bee boy, does a prissy moan & gets a half slapping. He then starts screaming like a girlie. He learnt a lesson most of us learnt early on at school.

i don't know if you've ever trail ridden or downhill mountainbiked before, but the number one rule is give way, all it would of taken is for fat buzzy be boy to slow down for a second so he could pass but no he continued to be a wanker.

[Flip]

Staying right on someones wheel is not the way to gain friends. It creates an annoying, unnecessary and dangerous "mind your back" mentality.

The issue is cycling attracts and brings out the worst of the middle class yobbo mentality. It just brings out the worst in these people.

For example I have never been tail gated by a faster bike, mostly I move over and they pass me. But I have actually never been tail gated, why is that?

[unstuck]

But I have actually never been tail gated, why is that?

Like atrracts like.;)

[Zedder]

The issue is cycling attracts and brings out the worst of the middle class yobbo mentality. It just brings out the worst in these people.

For example I have never been tail gated by a faster bike, mostly I move over and they pass me. But I have actually never been tail gated, why is that?

I'm not certain Flip but road cyclists do have that "pack mentality" and get overly arrogant. The mountain bike incident is the first I've ever seen/heard where there's been that drama.

On a motorbike it's easy to pull over and be overtaken by another bike without to much road used up. With a car tailgating, it's a bit more of a critical situation with room, other traffic etc.

But ultimately, being courteous is what I do too. My ego can handle it and I'm not in such a hurry that it really matters if I'm overtaken.

[nzspokes]

But I have actually never been tail gated, why is that?

You ride a Tractor, there scared of slipping in the oil leaking from you bike. :nya:

[willytheekid]

....a knobsuck in Lycra zooms through a red light on Colombo Street, just on dark, a 3mm red dot off the back of his helmet was all I saw...some poor cunt in a car who had the right of way through the lights, ends up with this fuckwit biting his bonnet...the doodle headed dick with a bent bicycle was jumping up and down and shouting obscenities at a poor little office worker who was terrified...the lights changed and we all got Italian and screamed and shouted at the cyclist dong to pick his bike up and fuck off...if it wasn't so cold I reckon I could have left my vehicle and kicked the twat in his lightly lycra clad ghoulies...just for the giggle mind you...no malice...

:lol:...I enjoyed reading that:yes: (Shoulda "helped" him pick up his bike;)...while standing on the rims etc...opps sorry...damn was that mean't? to come off...sorry!)

But thats a perfect example of how cyclists are happy to break the rules when they see fit, yet they then hide behind the road rules when it suits them.
Imagine if motorcyclists just ignored EVERY give way, stop sign and even red lights! so we too could whip around the courner into flowing traffic....we would get jumped on so friggin hard by the popos!, and then fined off the road for endangering ourselfs and others thorugh dangerous stupidity!

Earlier on in this thread our local popo mate Rastuscat stated that his boss has THOUSANDS of letters of complaints involving cyclists and the above acts (And many many more!), yet he also has thousands of letters for cars, motorcyclists trucks etc....I asked just ONE question!

"Why do we NEVER see cyclists (and scooters for that matter) Targeted by police check points and "safety campaigns"...yet cars, trucks and motorcycles are REPEATEDLY targeted!"

I thought it was a valid question?...and one we might just have to keep asking it;)

[george formby]

Anybody noticed that cyclists smell? Moons ago, every Sunday morning I would have to serve soy frappucinos & spirulina smoothies to a pack after their morning jaunt. Wiffy lot they were.

[Tigadee]

every Sunday morning I would have to serve soy frappucinos & spirulina smoothies to a pack after their morning jaunt.

Hmmmm, so what goes in comes out the same? Why bother? LOL

[avgas]

i don't know if you've ever trail ridden or downhill mountainbiked before, but the number one rule is give way, all it would of taken is for fat buzzy be boy to slow down for a second so he could pass but no he continued to be a wanker.
What he said.
I have had riders in the past not let me go, I have simply called "Pass on left/right!" as I shot past - some give it a go of barging back - some ended up with tasty bear trap scars........I miss those pedals.

[Flip]

You ride a Tractor, there scared of slipping in the oil leaking from you bike. :nya:

What can one say. :motu::motu::motu::motu::motu::motu::motu::motu::m otu::motu::motu::motu::motu::motu::motu:

[kiwifruit]

Have you guys seen the whole video tho?

Is it still available to watch? I couldn't find it

[neels]

Is it still available to watch? I couldn't find it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPLYStAuZt0

[FJRider]

Staying right on someones wheel is not the way to gain friends. It creates an annoying, unnecessary and dangerous "mind your back" mentality.

"Camera boy" threatning to run "Mr Buzzy bee" off the track if he prefered (then had the nerve to mention "trail etiquette")... rather than moving over ... may not have helped. And the fact that "Buzzy bee" did stop and let him past ... then "camera boy" took a route that let "Buzzy bee" back in front. It looked like they were both back (almost) at tar-seal and "camera boy" pressed the issue again.

On many occasion I have been on a ride through an area I know and like. Only to find somebody ahead (Bike/Car/Truck) that is going quite slowly. It's a bugger sure ... but such is life.

[Zedder]

"Camera boy" threatning to run "Mr Buzzy bee" off the track if he prefered (then had the nerve to mention "trail etiquette")... rather than moving over ... may not have helped. And the fact that "Buzzy bee" did stop and let him past ... then "camera boy" took a route that let "Buzzy bee" back in front. It looked like they were both back (almost) at tar-seal and "camera boy" pressed the issue again.

On many occasion I have been on a ride through an area I know and like. Only to find somebody ahead (Bike/Car/Truck) that is going quite slowly. It's a bugger sure ... but such is life.

Yeah, such is life (Bloody Utube, ya can't have a decent drama without someone uploading the damn thing) FJR.

[Tigadee]

Hmmmm, Camera Boi had plenty of opportunities to split off into a different route. This wasn't a commute to work, this was recreational. Just chill and either wait 20 secs and let the offender go on ahead or take another route.

I'm not saying Buzzy Bee Bud wasn't wrong, just that a bit of smarts and calm would have avoided this... but hey, then they both wouldn't both be famous now, would they? :laugh:

[Zedder]

Hmmmm, Camera Boi had plenty of opportunities to split off into a different route. This wasn't a commute to work, this was recreational. Just chill and either wait 20 secs and let the offender go on ahead or take another route.

I'm not saying Buzzy Bee Bud wasn't wrong, just that a bit of smarts and calm would have avoided this... but hey, then they both wouldn't both be famous now, would they? :laugh:

Hey....maybe it was all a jack up (Bloody Utube ya can't have a decent drama without someone uploading it and getting famous)Tigadee.

[Padmei]

i don't know if you've ever trail ridden or downhill mountainbiked before, but the number one rule is give way, all it would of taken is for fat buzzy be boy to slow down for a second so he could pass but no he continued to be a wanker.

Yeah i've done a bit of that.

What I find amusing is that Camera boiy knew buzzy bee wasn't gonna pull over -that was pretty clear.
Camera boiy then had the option of having a sip out of his camelback, dropping back & then carrying on at his usual speed with buzzy boiy ahead in the distance doing his own thing.
Camera boiy didn't do this- fair enough why should he, it was his riding time & noone should take that away from him- he wanted to keep riding up buzzy's arse & either pass or piss him off.

Camera boiy was well within his right to ride like this but he should have realised there was a very good chance of a handbag duel at the end. At the end Camera boiy then after whinging gets a wedgie, squeaks & says he has a camera & it's all on video. Well time for a swirly now. As his head goes down the toilet he starts squealing like a girlie - biting buzzys finger???? that's the best he can do?

My point is Camera boiy must have led a pretty sheltered life if at the ripe old age of 16 - 35ish(?) he hasn't learnt that actions like this can end with sore gonads & a good dose of humiliation.
I would put it out there that most of us learnt at a young age how to stay away from trouble we didn't want. Remember to walk away from the bully in the playground?
I reckon he must be bloody embarrassed by now.

[Tigadee]

I reckon he must be bloody embarrassed by now.

If not now, he will be when they show this at his wedding reception! :lol:

[Nova.]

Yeah i've done a bit of that.

What I find amusing is that Camera boiy knew buzzy bee wasn't gonna pull over -that was pretty clear.
Camera boiy then had the option of having a sip out of his camelback, dropping back & then carrying on at his usual speed with buzzy boiy ahead in the distance doing his own thing.
Camera boiy didn't do this- fair enough why should he, it was his riding time & noone should take that away from him- he wanted to keep riding up buzzy's arse & either pass or piss him off.

Camera boiy was well within his right to ride like this but he should have realised there was a very good chance of a handbag duel at the end. At the end Camera boiy then after whinging gets a wedgie, squeaks & says he has a camera & it's all on video. Well time for a swirly now. As his head goes down the toilet he starts squealing like a girlie - biting buzzys finger???? that's the best he can do?

My point is Camera boiy must have led a pretty sheltered life if at the ripe old age of 16 - 35ish(?) he hasn't learnt that actions like this can end with sore gonads & a good dose of humiliation.
I would put it out there that most of us learnt at a young age how to stay away from trouble we didn't want. Remember to walk away from the bully in the playground?
I reckon he must be bloody embarrassed by now.

Yeah i totally agree, if you're going to piss someone off at least make sure you can fight.

[mossy1200]

Yeah i totally agree, if you're going to piss someone off at least make sure you can fight.

Nope.Now you can make money on Utube you need give people what they want.2 generations of fags standing off in lycra fanny slapping and biting.Thats a winner!!!!

[jasonu]

Yeah i've done a bit of that.

What I find amusing is that you in your car knew caravan towing slowcoach wasn't gonna pull over -that was pretty clear.
You in your car then had the option of stopping on the side of the road for a cup o tea, dropping back & then carrying on at your usual speed with caravan towing slowcoach ahead in the distance doing his own thing.
You in your car didn't do this- fair enough why should you, you are trying to get somewhere maybe important maybe not- you need to stay on his arse incase a passing opportunity arises.


Fuck bumble bee guy. As the slower rider he should have slowed and made room for the faster rider. Double fuck him for being a big enough temper tantrum douchebag for physically attacking the camera guy, totally unnecessary. I hope the cops get him.

[Tigadee]

Fuck bumble bee guy. As the slower rider he should have slowed and made room for the faster rider. Double fuck him for being a big enough temper tantrum douchebag for physically attacking the camera guy, totally unnecessary. I hope the cops get him.

Shut up, Camera Boi... :bleh:

I was at Onheunga Mall this morning and bunches of the Lycra Brigade went up the narrow street and many were side-by-side, or not maintaining any semblence of single file formation, just ignoring traffic behind them. Felt like yelling out "Oi! Single file, ya sausages!":facepalm:

[pritch]

I sure hope that the short fused bumble bee hasn't got a firearms licence...

[BigAl]

Fuck bumble bee guy. As the slower rider he should have slowed and made room for the faster rider. Double fuck him for being a big enough temper tantrum douchebag for physically attacking the camera guy, totally unnecessary. I hope the cops get him.

+10 sums it up exactly.

[mossy1200]

After being on the tele and on the net they could be the next celebrity fight night.

[Latte]

After being on the tele and on the net they could be the next celebrity fight night.



Nah it's just a way to drum up publicity for Shane Cameron's next opponent. Free advertising etc, quite clever really.

[FJRider]

I sure hope that the short fused bumble bee hasn't got a firearms licence...

Short fuse ... ??? he was getting needled from early on in the vid. I'm supprised he didn't stop and plant the guy earlier ..

[Swoop]

Camera boiy then had the option of having a sip out of his camelback, dropping back & then carrying on at his usual speed with buzzy boiy ahead in the distance doing his own thing.
Camera boiy didn't do this- fair enough why should he, it was his riding time & noone should take that away from him- he wanted to keep riding up buzzy's arse & either pass or piss him off.

Camera boiy was well within his right to ride like this but he should have realised there was a very good chance of a handbag duel at the end.

Sounds like a certain Kymco cruiser rider who should revert to a scooter.

Buzzy-boi should learn to pull over and accept he is a slow faggot rider and common sense prevails.

[Tigadee]

Buzzy-boi should learn to pull over and accept he is a slow faggot rider and common sense prevails.

Right, say that again when someone is tailgating you... :whistle:

[Flip]

I sure hope that the short fused bumble bee hasn't got a firearms licence...

He won't have one now.

[liljegren]

Interesting thread, when it involves road riders riding discourteously, their defense is that they have rights, drivers should slow down to 20km/hr, etc, but when a tosspot is pissing off another tosspot, the tosspot in the way, is an UTTER tosspot, and should therefore be abused and rendered sterile. My case rests. Cyclists are tosspots!!

[Padmei]

Fuck bumble bee guy. As the slower rider he should have slowed and made room for the faster rider. Double fuck him for being a big enough temper tantrum douchebag for physically attacking the camera guy, totally unnecessary. I hope the cops get him.

Hey that's not fair you edited my post.
If Bumblebee was in a car which I was following then I'd have to dispose of him- no two ways about it. Prob with a big club or frozen tuna- something hard & big anyway. Then I'd prob have to bury him & dispose of evidence.
Or I could video him & his numberplate, put it on the interent & try to gain as much sympathy as I could & start a witchhunt.


I witnessed a very funny scene like this about 20 years ago.
I watched as a car stopped at the lites & a tall skinny 50 something year old man threw open his door & began marching purposely back to the car behind him. From his stiff body language he was getting ready to rip strips from the following driver.

The door of the following car opened & out lazily climbed a big island guy. His body language in comparison was pretty relaxed.
Mr Angry in the front saw an islander get out of the car & shat himself. He ran around to the front LH corner of the car as far away from his certain death & began asking surrounding cars for help.

All the time mr big nasty islander man stood beside the door of his own car wondering what the fuck stupid angry man was doing running around squawking.
Lites changed & I rode away laughing.

[Tigadee]

All the time mr big nasty islander man stood beside the door of his own car wondering what the fuck stupid angry man was doing running around squawking.

LOL Bet Camera Boi was not a Big Kahuna then...

TBH, I didn't think either party was in the right. Just that if I'd been Camera Boi, I'd have let it be and gone a different route when I could... It's not like commuting to work where you're more or less restricted to one or two routes.

There must be more than one trail and it looked like a cyclist can branch off into some other directions, so why let someone hurt your recreation/relaxation time [or you] by bleating about it and almost crashing into him a couple of times? Why complain about trail courtesy and consideration, and not display any of it himself? :scratch:

How many times as bikers have we been told to maintain our Zen while on the road and not let tossers in the way upset our calm.

[Bikemad]

i don't know if you've ever trail ridden or downhill mountainbiked before, but the number one rule is give way, all it would of taken is for fat buzzy be boy to slow down for a second so he could pass but no he continued to be a wanker.
yep


Fuck bumble bee guy. As the slower rider he should have slowed and made room for the faster rider. Double fuck him for being a big enough temper tantrum douchebag for physically attacking the camera guy, totally unnecessary. I hope the cops get him.
yep

I sure hope that the short fused bumble bee hasn't got a firearms licence...

and hell yes

[NordieBoy]

Fuck bumble bee guy. As the slower rider he should have slowed and made room for the faster rider. Double fuck him for being a big enough temper tantrum douchebag for physically attacking the camera guy, totally unnecessary. I hope the cops get him.

Being a slower rider, I let people past if possible and if, in doing so, cause no issues for myself.
Otherwise I treat it the same as in racing. Hold my line and try not to wobble all over the place and the faster rider will find a way past.

[jasonu]

Nah it's just a way to drum up publicity for Shane Cameron's next opponent. Free advertising etc, quite clever really.

I thought the O for Orsum guy turned him into a retard.

[Swoop]

Right, say that again when someone is tailgating you... :whistle:
Rarely, if ever happens.
I know how to use the left hand lane and allow others to pass unhindered.


Either that or I'm in the fast lane up someone else's arse saying "get the fuck out of the way!".
Speaking of which... Why is it that Sunday night drivers are so brain-dead? 80k in the fast lane?
80????? Seriously?:bash:

[5150]

Well, it had to happen. Yesterday morning while taking the wife to work at 5:30am I got one of them lycra sausage jockeys.

The scene: We were driving down Ulster street by Whitiora, where it meets Victoria St by the Farmer Family statue. Dark, foggy and damp road. We had green light and I crossed the intersection at no more then 40 clicks.

Enter Stage Left is a vauge figure wearing jeans, black jersey, beanie and black cycle stack on his melon. Bike is gray with no lights, no hiviz anything. I only just caught him with the corner of my eye as he hit our left guard and flew across the bonnet. The freestyle judge gave him 9 for style and 4 for effort. We stop, call the popo and the ambo's. In between crying and screaming the cycle sausage guy starts screaming at us that we cut him off. WTF??? I told him he ran red light, but no, he insists I cut him off. :gob:

The worst was popo's response. They told me i should have slowed down and let him through. My response was. "FUCK THE LOT OF YOU"S, I WOULD IF I COULD SEE THE CUNT!!!!" :angry: and anyway, why should I give way to him when it was me who had a green light while he ran the red?? To which I was told that I will be let off with a warning. Even my insurance agreed with me and still want to pursue the idiot for damages to my car.


And I have asked the cops the obvious question. Why do they always run safety campains on cars, motorbikes and trucks but never on cyclists. His response was classic.




You ready?................






Here it goes:






"Because alot of cyclists do not have enough money to pay the fines, and anyway, they are not registered road users so it would be hard to pursue them for infringments and not worth going through courts"


WTF???? :gob:

[Tigadee]

Speaking of which... Why is it that Sunday night drivers are so brain-dead? 80k in the fast lane?
80????? Seriously?

Oh, was that you? :innocent:

On a slightly serious note, I know what you mean... I was stuck behind an empty taxi this morning on the motorway going 90kph in the fast lane. I suppose he thought since he was empty and already 'at work', he ought to conserve fuel but nelegected to think of others who may be on their way to work. <_<

But that's why I love biking to work, just as soon as a gap opens up, I can zip into the next lane and get past him...


"Because alot of cyclists do not have enough money to pay the fines, and anyway, they are not registered road users so it would be hard to pursue them for infringments and not worth going through courts"

Wow... :facepalm:

That's perfect though... Next time anything like this happens, we should just reverse, run over the cyclist again just to make sure, and then speed off.

I mean, it's not worth going through courts, right? And when claiming insurance, tell them you hit a kangaroo.:eek:

[Flip]

Well, it had to happen. Yesterday morning while taking the wife to work at 5:30am I got one of them lycra sausage jockeys.

The scene: We were driving down Ulster street by Whitiora, where it meets Victoria St by the Farmer Family statue. Dark, foggy and damp road. We had green light and I crossed the intersection at no more then 40 clicks.

Enter Stage Left is a vauge figure wearing jeans, black jersey, beanie and black cycle stack on his melon. Bike is gray with no lights, no hiviz anything. I only just caught him with the corner of my eye as he hit our left guard and flew across the bonnet. The freestyle judge gave him 9 for style and 4 for effort. We stop, call the popo and the ambo's. In between crying and screaming the cycle sausage guy starts screaming at us that we cut him off. WTF??? I told him he ran red light, but no, he insists I cut him off. :gob:

The worst was popo's response. They told me i should have slowed down and let him through. My response was. "FUCK THE LOT OF YOU"S, I WOULD IF I COULD SEE THE CUNT!!!!" :angry: and anyway, why should I give way to him when it was me who had a green light while he ran the red?? To which I was told that I will be let off with a warning. Even my insurance agreed with me and still want to pursue the idiot for damages to my car.


And I have asked the cops the obvious question. Why do they always run safety campains on cars, motorbikes and trucks but never on cyclists. His response was classic.




You ready?................






Here it goes:






"Because alot of cyclists do not have enough money to pay the fines, and anyway, they are not registered road users so it would be hard to pursue them for infringments and not worth going through courts"


WTF???? :gob:


Thats a 30 pointer.

[Jdogg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpZG4wa_Paw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLC-y3AIVt4

I bike to work everyday - Never had an issue - I just ride like anything big than me can kill me - simple - I value my life over my ego/perceived road rights....

[neels]

So hang on, was it

one of them lycra sausage jockeys.
Or was it just some random dude with a death wish on a bike?

a vauge figure wearing jeans, black jersey, beanie and black cycle stack on his melon. Bike is gray with no lights, no hiviz anything.

Anyway, I just about cleaned up one of them myself the other night, dressed about the same at about 8pm. Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

Short answer is sounds like the police are a waste of time so leave it up to your insurance company, cyclist with no lights well before sunrise = not your fault, get the car fixed and let them chase him for the money

[5150]

So hang on, was it

Or was it just some random dude with a death wish on a bike?




I think one and the same, just that during the day he didn't want to dissapoint his other lycra clad mates. Either way, they all look the same to me.

And yes, I agree with you re insurance. I just found it interresting that cops did not give him a fine for dangerous/reckles riding and running a red light, instead telling me to slow down and let him through. I am intending to write a letter to the Police commisioner describing the incident and asking for his view on the cyclling and their policing matters. So watch this space

[ellipsis]

...sometimes 'thick' or 'with a death wish'. is more an apt tag than 'arrogant'...like the rope head git riding against the flow of traffic on a one way system in peak hour traffic, headphones on, in Chch that I spied recently...his antics only got smiles and head shakes from drivers in the near miss vicinity...he probably gets home every night...

[5150]

The police response to my question at the time of the accident further ensures me that all the traffic campaigns on our roads are nothing to do with safety, and are rather cleverly disquised plots for revenue collecting.

[Mushu]

iYRe, you should be shot.

Judging by your arguments you are quite possibly an intelligent person, but you have definatly missed the point.


We all have the right to a safe journey to and from work but what you have to understand is that if I have to be at work at 8, I know if I leave home at 7:20 I can get to work with anything up to 20 minutes to get a coffee or whatever but that time can be greatly affected if I get some prick who is doing about 20 in a 60 zone (you say you average 30 - 50 but the average lycra covered asshole seems to do 20 - 30), I leave 20 minutes of spare time to account for these assholes and sometimes it's barely enough. Keep in mind I have a short commute, it takes me 10 minutes to get to work at 7am on a Saturday
You should be able to keep up with the traffic flow, or take another route where you don't obstruct it.

It's true there are other vehicles on the road that can't achieve the speed limit but often their purpose itself precludes its ability to reach speed limits (Truck, tractor, forklift, etc, etc) not just as someones chosen transportation and more often than not the drivers of these vehicles try and stay out of the way of traffic (diferent routes, times to avoid obstructing traffic) I have driven and worked with alot of these types of machines.
If you can ride a bike somewhere, as far as I can tell you can walk there too -Luggage capacity: same. Range: Similar [conservation of energy]- it will take longer, but you guys are happy to hold us up so you mustn't have anywhere to be yourselves. (Obviously this doesn't just apply to the work commute - just a small example)

I have no problem with alot of cyclists out there, I used to ride a BMX when I was going to polytech a couple of years ago, and rode a MTB around untill I got a car license. But what you have to keep in mind is you are the only one who you can trust with your safety I knew it when I was 12 and I know it now, don't EVER just expect these people to even see you, and if you keep this in mind you wont be in the way of larger (faster) vehicles unless it is absolutly necessary.

Also, iYRe, you mention having never stacked your motorbike, good on you, neither have I (but I have stacked the odd trail bike, and managed to highside a pocketbike once) but you mention having never stacked a pushbike, this makes me think that your safety margin is far too wide, I couldn't begin to count the amount of times I came off my pushbikes over the years. And if you can't effectively use your bike to the edges of its performance (turning, stopping) you may be too scared to take appropriate action in an emergency.

If you want to use the kms/accidents ratio as an argument I'd like to point out that my mother never had an accident in something like 25
years, despite the fact that she is one of the worst drivers I have ever known, from when the neighbor taught me to drive at 12 till when mum handed in her license, she doesn't drive now for medical reasons, I did the majority of the parking and all the parallel parking - cos I could do it first time when it would take her 5 minutes.

There are those cyclists that are the living embodyment of Darwins theory.
About a week after getting my bike (still quite shakey but starting to get into the corners and have fun with it) I was riding Summit rd from Gebbes pass heading to Sign of the Kiwi, about a quarter of the way I see a cyclist a couple corners ahead, plenty of time so I start checking for oncoming cars and looking for my line around the cyclist. The way it worked out I caught up to him just as he entered a tight left hand corner but decided that since I can see around the corner, I'll just sit close to the centreline which would leave plenty of room between us as I overtake.
When I was about 10m behind this guy he starts peddling (there was a gradient change and he is now travelling uphill - I hadn't considered that this would effect me) This caused him to take up far more room on the road, swinging the bike side to side as he peddled. He also started concentrating on getting up the hill, and forgot about the corner crossing to the centreline by the time I caught him
So here I am, not alot of options avaliable to me given my experience and avoiding him put me directly into the oncoming lane (luckily I had already checked for oncoming cars - hit a soft pushbike vs. hit a oncoming car the answer is obvious so if I don't know what might be in the oncoming lane I'll mow down that cyclist everytime)
It was here I just racted without thinking - rear brake, huge turning skid, managed to keep the bike out of the ditch somehow and then this guy is looking at me like I'm some kind of danger on the road. - I was well under the speed limit (didn't have the confidence to go fast enough to break the limit at that time)

With the skill level I have now I could have easily kept it on the road, but even Rossi himself wouldn't have been able to keep it out of the oncoming lane.

I think cyclists should be made to ride on the opposite side of the road, toward the traffic.
When they are looking at the trucks, busses and SUVs barreling down on them with no regard for their safety, maybe more of them will figure out that they can't rely on these poeple to not be adjusting stereos or lighting a smoke or reading a text.

The most effective way of not being hit is to watch the traffic and assume they are actually trying to run you off the road. While on the BMX (In both Christchurch and Sydney) I used both sides of the road, both footpaths, median strips, parks and other vehicles to efficiantly get where I need to go without ever holding anyone up and no injury was ever done anyone else as a result of this and I've only had scrapes when I have come off. Never hit or been hit by a car.

[FJRider]

... "Because alot of cyclists do not have enough money to pay the fines, and anyway, they are not registered road users so it would be hard to pursue them for infringments and not worth going through courts"


WTF???? :gob:

The kicker is ... as a licence is not required to operate them ... personal ID is often not carried. It's certainly not required by law. A drivers licence is required to be carried (by those issued them) ... but not everybody has one. (or admit at time they have one ... if it suits)

The cop may issue a ticket to a cyclist ... but if given details are false ... the cyclist is in the clear. No doubt ... plenty have done this, and cops see writing a ticket to a cyclist is only done for serious offences.

Registration of bicycles may be seen as a start ... but personal ID carried at all times would cover a lot of issues in many respects.

I can(not) see that as being popular ... <_<

[5150]

The kicker is ... as a licence is not required to operate them ... personal ID is often not carried. It's certainly not required by law. A drivers licence is required to be carried (by those issued them) ... but not everybody has one. (or admit at time they have one ... if it suits)

The cop may issue a ticket to a cyclist ... but if given details are false ... the cyclist is in the clear. No doubt ... plenty have done this, and cops see writing a ticket to a cyclist is only done for serious offences.

Registration of bicycles may be seen as a start ... but personal ID carried at all times would cover a lot of issues in many respects.

I can(not) see that as being popular ... <_<

Funny thing is that where I come from, former estern block EU coutry, having a license for operating a push bike is compulsory, and most schools were actively engaging in road code training. I got my cycle license when I was 10 as most of kids did. It prepared us all to become aware and responsible road user. Also upon reaching age of 16, every citizen was issued with an ID card which held your personal details. You were required by law to have it on you ALL the time and failure would end up in arrest. Yes, some might see it as over kill, but for a country with over 40 million people it worked wanders. I do not personally see a problem with licensing ALL road users including cyclists and making carrying a form of ID a legal requirement. It would certainly make popo's job alot easier.

[FJRider]

Funny thing is that where I come from, former estern block EU coutry, having a license for operating a push bike is compulsory, and most schools were actively engaging in road code training. I got my cycle license when I was 10 as most of kids did. It prepared us all to become aware and responsible road user. Also upon reaching age of 16, every citizen was issued with an ID card which held your personal details. You were required by law to have it on you ALL the time and failure would end up in arrest. Yes, some might see it as over kill, but for a country with over 40 million people it worked wanders. I do not personally see a problem with licensing ALL road users including cyclists and making carrying a form of ID a legal requirement. It would certainly make popo's job alot easier.

I spent a few years in Singapore ... Push bikes were required by law to have a rego' plate. And an ID card (with photo) was required by LAW ... to be carried at all times ... by EVERYBODY.

A law such as that would solve a lot of problems for the enforcers for sure. The "civil liberties brigade" may argue a bit though.

[Mushu]

Funny thing is that where I come from, former estern block EU coutry, having a license for operating a push bike is compulsory, and most schools were actively engaging in road code training. I got my cycle license when I was 10 as most of kids did. It prepared us all to become aware and responsible road user. Also upon reaching age of 16, every citizen was issued with an ID card which held your personal details. You were required by law to have it on you ALL the time and failure would end up in arrest. Yes, some might see it as over kill, but for a country with over 40 million people it worked wanders. I do not personally see a problem with licensing ALL road users including cyclists and making carrying a form of ID a legal requirement. It would certainly make popo's job alot easier.

Definatly a solution, but that just seems too easy. And we all know the government and its various departments never go with the smart option anyway, I like the idea of the ID cards they use in some of those countries (with less OTT enforcement perhapse a fine for not carrying the card instead of arrest) and if everyone carries one of these they could double as a licese (including one for cyclists) and perhaps even other functions ie. bankcard, electronic ID, memory card for important info etc etc

[Tigadee]

I think cyclists should be made to ride on the opposite side of the road, toward the traffic.

That's the advice I was told when I was growing up and cycled. Took it to heart and made it this far... Of course, different roads, different culture and different country then...

[nzspokes]

Definatly a solution, but that just seems too easy. And we all know the government and its various departments never go with the smart option anyway, I like the idea of the ID cards they use in some of those countries (with less OTT enforcement perhapse a fine for not carrying the card instead of arrest) and if everyone carries one of these they could double as a licese (including one for cyclists) and perhaps even other functions ie. bankcard, electronic ID, memory card for important info etc etc

Maybe get everybody to have there information added to a bar code then tatoo that on thier wrists........:facepalm:

[oneofsix]

Maybe get everybody to have there information added to a bar code then tatoo that on thier wrists........:facepalm:

They just need to tattoo the identification barcode on your wrist, the information is held in the database.

[Mushu]

That's the advice I was told when I was growing up and cycled. Took it to heart and made it this far...

I heard that you're supposed to walk on the right when walking on country roads, I really don't see why this wouldn't work for cycles and there is an undeniable benefit especially in city traffic.

As far as the increase in closing speed i figure its velocity (speed+mass) that is important so even by changing the speed of the lighter object (cyclist) isn't going to make as big a difference as one may expect and also the cyclist has the ability to see what could be a danger to him and react to it.

Also with more cyclists getting out of the way before they obstruct traffic I think there would be a measureable drop in road rage and a higher consistancy in travel times (for other vehicles).

[oneofsix]

That's the advice I was told when I was growing up and cycled. Took it to heart and made it this far... Of course, different roads, different culture and different country then...

the few times I've encountered a cyclist on the 'wrong' side of the road, peddling towards traffic, it has scared the bgesus out of me. Pedestrians on unlaned roads yes because they get further out of the way.

For any vehicle, including human powered, using the actual road the operator should be licensed.

[5150]

The "civil liberties brigade" may argue a bit though.

What is there to argue about? Aren't bikers civil rights broken by getting singled out for higher ACC levies ? lol

:laugh:

[FJRider]

I heard that you're supposed to walk on the right when walking on country roads, I really don't see why this wouldn't work for cycles and there is an undeniable benefit especially in city traffic.



Because bicycles are vehicles. All vehicles under New Zealand law ... travel on the left hand side of the road ... in their direction of travel.

And if they did as you suggest ... before long there will be some riding 2 abreast on the wrong side on the wrong side of one way streets. :blink: (as if they don't now)

[5150]

And if they did as you suggest ... before long there will be some riding 2 abreast on the wrong side on the wrong side of one way streets. :blink: (as if they don't now)

And then we would have open season on cyclists. May approaching fast, and my shotgun is shiny and ready for some action :shifty:

[Zedder]

What is there to argue about? Aren't bikers civil rights broken by getting singled out for higher ACC levies ? lol

:laugh:

Yep, bikers are certainly discriminated against.

The thing is though if cyclists have to get licensed it'll just turn into another income stream for the Government. We're taxed to hell now and are officially the 13th most taxed country in the world.

Who's next? Skate boarders?