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300weatherby
12th April 2012, 20:40
07 GSXR 1000 race bike.
-Ray Clee Yoshi engine:183hp --All the road gear in new condition
-Ohlins internals up front
-Race tec rear
-Spare tank
-Spare rear wheel
-Translogic quickshifter
-Clipons
-Woodcraft rearsets
-GPS laptimer
Will look at trades, race or road bikes, also on trade me, will sell bike or spares seperately http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=466153399
Will ad picks and trade me link when I figure out how

driftn
12th April 2012, 21:25
Got an inkling this could be Jimmy McNairs aka Whitetrash's old bike. Good horse, good luck with the sail.

300weatherby
12th April 2012, 22:19
Got an inkling this could be Jimmy McNairs aka Whitetrash's old bike. Good horse, good luck with the sail.

Did he own it after it was one of the LG Suzuki team bikes? (Choppa and Eddie).
Yep it is a strong bike, makes my Busa look like an SV 650 in a straight line:2thumbsup- got me two wins and a third first round of the Nationals at Ruapuna (in Clubmans), anyone wants a look at the bike in action can get the vid from the Nationals via Ctas live streaming, they covered all of the classes, only a couple of bucks per race

Gremlin
13th April 2012, 00:46
Yep, think he did. I've added your TradeMe link to your first post.

onearmedbandit
13th April 2012, 02:07
Did he own it after it was one of the LG Suzuki team bikes? (Choppa and Eddie).
Yep it is a strong bike, makes my Busa look like an SV 650 in a straight line:2thumbsup- got me two wins and a third first round of the Nationals at Ruapuna (in Clubmans), anyone wants a look at the bike in action can get the vid from the Nationals via Ctas live streaming, they covered all of the classes, only a couple of bucks per race

What times where you running? Just out of curiosity.

Matt Bleck
13th April 2012, 09:17
Another ex LG superbike? How many where there?

CHOPPA
13th April 2012, 09:48
Another ex LG superbike? How many where there?


HAHA Yeah seems that way doesnt it!! There were 5 bikes in total that were used...

To put the record straight....

Eddie:
Ex Haldane - GSXR1000K5 - Sold to Drew Mair now owned by Roger Cathrow
Ex Jimmy Mair - GSXR1000K7 - Sold to a guy in Christchurch then sold again (this is the bike for sale here)
Ex Robbie Bugden - Sold to Dave in Otorohanga then to Matt Bleck

Sloan:
2008 ZX10R - Sold to a freind in Hamilton as a road bike
Ex Stroud - GSXR1000K7 - Sold to Brent in Paeroa, He sold it again and brought RSV4

300weatherby
13th April 2012, 20:42
Yep, think he did. I've added your TradeMe link to your first post.

Hey thanks for that, am a bit computor challenged

300weatherby
13th April 2012, 20:51
What times where you running? Just out of curiosity.

My best that weekend was a 1:38.7, on the bike for sale here, first proper race meeting on a superbike- on my new bike have pushed down to 1:37.1 pb (this arvo practice), still tryin to work out how to ride a superbike, but am improving each time out. How come?

onearmedbandit
13th April 2012, 21:02
How come?

Just curious to see what times the clubman class is running.

300weatherby
13th April 2012, 21:08
Just curious to see what times the clubman class is running.

You a hater or supporter of clubmans at National level?

SVboy
13th April 2012, 22:14
1.37! Well done Andy! Nice!

onearmedbandit
13th April 2012, 23:06
Mmmmmm

You a hater or supporter of clubmans at National level?

Why do you ask? What relevance does asking what times clubmans is doing these days bear to whether I'm a supporter or hater?

driftn
14th April 2012, 18:07
It got Maired well before it was an LG bike.

White trash
14th April 2012, 18:46
Yup, that be my old bike.

We got it as an ex demo from Haldanes. It was the very first K7 Racebike in NZ. Motor is mildly tuned, nowhere near the power of the Suzuki NZ bikes but a whole lot less maintainence and easier to ride. Also had a Yoshimura clutch and EM Pro ignition when we bolted it together. When you say it's got a Yoshimura motor, I think you mean head because that's all that was done to it. Stock it had 159hp on Clees Factory Pro dyno, after the mods 183hp when fresh. The exhaust is a cheap and nasty stainless Yoshi 4 to 1.

Eddie bought it as a "B" bike to his Suzuki NZ bike for the 08-09 season. We used it as the pillion bike for the LG Corporate day at Pukekohe with me riding, Shane Camerons manager Ken was squealing like a 6 year old school girl with a skinned knee all the way over the hill and wheelieing down the front straight.

I love that fucken bike, would have it back in a heartbeat but I'd say she's due a freshen up by now. Where'd the TTX go outta the rear?

300weatherby
14th April 2012, 21:32
Why do you ask? What relevance does asking what times clubmans is doing these days bear to whether I'm a supporter or hater?

Bite much?

Because as you undoubtedly know, there are two polar opposite camps about the existance of Clubmans as a class at all, and there are other places than a "for sale" thread to debate the case.

300weatherby
14th April 2012, 21:42
1.37! Well done Andy! Nice!

Cheers, long term target 34's (or die trying!) have even managed to not crash since end of november, longest time ever! total still at 19.

Am assuming this is Macca (who has been invisible of late.......why?)

300weatherby
14th April 2012, 22:06
Yup, that be my old bike.

We got it as an ex demo from Haldanes. It was the very first K7 Racebike in NZ. Motor is mildly tuned, nowhere near the power of the Suzuki NZ bikes but a whole lot less maintainence and easier to ride. Also had a Yoshimura clutch and EM Pro ignition when we bolted it together. When you say it's got a Yoshimura motor, I think you mean head because that's all that was done to it. Stock it had 159hp on Clees Factory Pro dyno, after the mods 183hp when fresh. The exhaust is a cheap and nasty stainless Yoshi 4 to 1.

Eddie bought it as a "B" bike to his Suzuki NZ bike for the 08-09 season. We used it as the pillion bike for the LG Corporate day at Pukekohe with me riding, Shane Camerons manager Ken was squealing like a 6 year old school girl with a skinned knee all the way over the hill and wheelieing down the front straight.

I love that fucken bike, would have it back in a heartbeat but I'd say she's due a freshen up by now. Where'd the TTX go outta the rear?
Hey, thanks for the info,
Bike had been parked in a garage for two years unused, before I discovered it, the guy before me had a couple of scares on it after getting it and parked it up and did other stuff instead. I bought to see if I could ride a superbike, truckloads of fun but it needs a new home.I got it with standard suspension both ends- could do you a deal if you really want, really, I could!

CHOPPA
14th April 2012, 22:29
Yup, that be my old bike.

We got it as an ex demo from Haldanes. It was the very first K7 Racebike in NZ. Motor is mildly tuned, nowhere near the power of the Suzuki NZ bikes but a whole lot less maintainence and easier to ride. Also had a Yoshimura clutch and EM Pro ignition when we bolted it together. When you say it's got a Yoshimura motor, I think you mean head because that's all that was done to it. Stock it had 159hp on Clees Factory Pro dyno, after the mods 183hp when fresh. The exhaust is a cheap and nasty stainless Yoshi 4 to 1.

Eddie bought it as a "B" bike to his Suzuki NZ bike for the 08-09 season. We used it as the pillion bike for the LG Corporate day at Pukekohe with me riding, Shane Camerons manager Ken was squealing like a 6 year old school girl with a skinned knee all the way over the hill and wheelieing down the front straight.

I love that fucken bike, would have it back in a heartbeat but I'd say she's due a freshen up by now. Where'd the TTX go outta the rear?


No way that it needs a freshen up Jimmy its done F/A and those engines are bullet proof! My old one is still going haha

The suspension front and rear went into my ozzy bike...

onearmedbandit
15th April 2012, 11:05
Bite much?

Because as you undoubtedly know, there are two polar opposite camps about the existance of Clubmans as a class at all, and there are other places than a "for sale" thread to debate the case.

Laughable mate. I asked a simple question, sorry if you thought I had other motives. I support all racing, as long as it's close. I will tell you why I asked though. You see if I was ever to go back racing (after my 4-5 ever races) I'd take my road bike into clubmans, and I was curious to see what the top end of the field runs. Politics bore me as much as people who think they are fishing by asking pointed questions...

300weatherby
15th April 2012, 11:59
Laughable mate. I asked a simple question, sorry if you thought I had other motives. I support all racing, as long as it's close. I will tell you why I asked though. You see if I was ever to go back racing (after my 4-5 ever races) I'd take my road bike into clubmans, and I was curious to see what the top end of the field runs. Politics bore me as much as people who think they are fishing by asking pointed questions...

Ok, figured you may have been following some of the local politics about this and had an opinion to bash away with-Yep, the politics have been fun, and ongoing- Clubmans at national level and Clubmans at Canterbury level are two completely seperate animals, at Canterbury level the field is anywhere from 1:55ish to 1:43ish at the pointy end. I don't ride Clubmans at local level, but am a strong supporter of their right to have races with timing and results and standings during a series, there are a few with clout that would have it gone alltogether, because they will not see the bigger picture and believe only supers and 600's count, and then only the pointy end at that.

If you feel offended, don't be, there has been crap occuring you were not aware of, and as I said, I figured you may have been lining up for an argument.

CHOPPA
15th April 2012, 12:46
Ok, figured you may have been following some of the local politics about this and had an opinion to bash away with-Yep, the politics have been fun, and ongoing- Clubmans at national level and Clubmans at Canterbury level are two completely seperate animals, at Canterbury level the field is anywhere from 1:55ish to 1:43ish at the pointy end. I don't ride Clubmans at local level, but am a strong supporter of their right to have races with timing and results and standings during a series, there are a few with clout that would have it gone alltogether, because they will not see the bigger picture and believe only supers and 600's count, and then only the pointy end at that.

If you feel offended, don't be, there has been crap occuring you were not aware of, and as I said, I figured you may have been lining up for an argument.

Clubmens should always have a place but the lap time limit should be cut off at say 120% of the lap record. I hate it when you see people burgling the class when its designed for people that are learning

Kiwi Graham
15th April 2012, 16:13
Clubmens should always have a place but the lap time limit should be cut off at say 120% of the lap record. I hate it when you see people burgling the class when its designed for people that are learning

+1 mate :niceone:

300weatherby
15th April 2012, 21:09
Clubmens should always have a place but the lap time limit should be cut off at say 120% of the lap record. I hate it when you see people burgling the class when its designed for people that are learning

It would be good if MNZ would come up a set of definitions for Clubmans, that applied nationally so it was not arbitrary local flexible decision making on the day. That would stop "burgling" and "legitimise the class.More people racing is better than less. Mick Ruane (the Motorcycling Canterbury president at the time) took away transponders and results from Clubbies in Canterbury, and a bunch of guys parked their bikes and quit.It has improved since, but still, specific rules/regulations would help.

Kickaha
15th April 2012, 21:31
It would be good if MNZ would come up a set of definitions for Clubmans, that applied nationally so it was not arbitrary local flexible decision making on the day. That would stop "burgling" and "legitimise the class.More people racing is better than less. Mick Ruane (the Motorcycling Canterbury president at the time) took away transponders and results from Clubbies in Canterbury, and a bunch of guys parked their bikes and quit.It has improved since, but still, specific rules/regulations would help.

The idea behind clubmans is "run what you brung" no points or prizes, it's just to give an introduction to racing without having to have a specific bike to enter a specific class, it doesn't need any rules or regulations

300weatherby
16th April 2012, 20:13
The idea behind clubmans is "run what you brung" no points or prizes, it's just to give an introduction to racing without having to have a specific bike to enter a specific class, it doesn't need any rules or regulations

I meant "who", not "what", ie: defining who can or cannot be in a "Clubmans race" and applying a consistant rule.

mickeyboy
1st May 2012, 14:49
It would be good if MNZ would come up a set of definitions for Clubmans, that applied nationally so it was not arbitrary local flexible decision making on the day. That would stop "burgling" and "legitimise the class.More people racing is better than less. Mick Ruane (the Motorcycling Canterbury president at the time) took away transponders and results from Clubbies in Canterbury, and a bunch of guys parked their bikes and quit.It has improved since, but still, specific rules/regulations would help.

Andy Stewart Stop talking crap , I never took transponders from Clubmans in Canterbury, we just didn't score the class as a Club championship for the very reason, real Clubman riders were getting lapped by a pack of bikes racing in what should have been a fun class. Some guys want to live in Clubmans and take 1st in Clubmans rather than 6th or 7th or 10th in their legitimate class. Most of the guys that had been racing in clubmans for a long time told us they learnt more racing in their correct class with riders like Dennis Charlett and James Smith in one meeting than they had all year circulating with less experienced riders. Shit amongst Kings or King amongst shit , sounds like you prefer the latter. You ride a 675, your in 600 supersport / superstock easy. Clubmans is for new Club riders , it's always interesting watching the so called Clubman riders turn up with wets , spare wheels , warmers , sometimes spare bikes so they can blitz the guys out there on road bikes and new riders etc. The so called guys who parked their bikes and quit only did because they were no longer as good as they thought they were when they went into their correct class, they cared only about themselves not about the new guys coming into the sport. I remember you complaining bitterly about Mark Taylor racing his Ducati in Clubmans at the Timaru round of the Nationals a couple of years back because he was to fast and agressive and you demanded we kick him out and into Superbike or you would lodge a protest , the very thing less experienced riders complained to the Club about you. Race in your legitimate class and stop trying to be a show pony in Clubmans.

mickeyboy
2nd May 2012, 11:20
The idea behind clubmans is "run what you brung" no points or prizes, it's just to give an introduction to racing without having to have a specific bike to enter a specific class, it doesn't need any rules or regulations

Exactly !! this man is a genuis !!

White trash
2nd May 2012, 11:36
Exactly !! this man is a genuis !!

No he's not. One good post does not make someone a "genius", it makes them correct in this instance. Fact is, this man you're referin to is actually a complete ballbag. A likeable one, but a ballbag none the less.

onearmedbandit
2nd May 2012, 11:41
it's always interesting watching the so called Clubman riders turn up with wets , spare wheels , warmers , sometimes spare bikes so they can blitz the guys out there on road bikes and new riders etc. The so called guys who parked their bikes and quit only did because they were no longer as good as they thought they were when they went into their correct class, they cared only about themselves not about the new guys coming into the sport. I remember you complaining bitterly about Mark Taylor racing his Ducati in Clubmans at the Timaru round of the Nationals a couple of years back because he was to fast and agressive and you demanded we kick him out and into Superbike , the very thing less experienced riders complained to the Club about you. Race in your legitimate class and stop trying to be a show pony in Clubmans.

I've got to add, this is one of the reasons I asked my question in this thread. I've been considering trying my hand at clubmans, but on the days I've been out to meets and seen the 'professionalism' of clubmans bikes etc I figured I'd be wasting my time on my road bike with my limited track experience. I'm not slow, but I'm not breaking into the sub 40's any time soon.

White trash
2nd May 2012, 11:55
I've got to add, this is one of the reasons I asked my question in this thread. I've been considering trying my hand at clubmans, but on the days I've been out to meets and seen the 'professionalism' of clubmans bikes etc I figured I'd be wasting my time on my road bike with my limited track experience. I'm not slow, but I'm not breaking into the sub 40's any time soon.

You have a point. The purchase of a Ray Clee tuned superbike, once ridden by the best looking mofo in New Zealand racing is possibly a bit extreme for Clubmans.

Tony.OK
2nd May 2012, 12:05
I've got to add, this is one of the reasons I asked my question in this thread. I've been considering trying my hand at clubmans, but on the days I've been out to meets and seen the 'professionalism' of clubmans bikes etc I figured I'd be wasting my time on my road bike with my limited track experience. I'm not slow, but I'm not breaking into the sub 40's any time soon.

Nah mate, you're not wasting your time. Clubmans is for ppl like you. As long as you don't go in thinking about winning and getting all the glory (haha) and think to yourself that you are there to be part of a race meeting without the stress of being too competitive. It maybe should be thought of as a timed and very organised track day session........................having no points etc should make ppl want to move into a real class, if only just to see if they can cut the mustard and improve further.
Thats my view on Club meetings, Nats I see a slightly different view.

Tony.OK
2nd May 2012, 12:07
You have a point. The purchase of a Ray Clee tuned superbike, once ridden by the best looking mofo in New Zealand racing is possibly a bit extreme for Clubmans.

You say the nicest things about Eddie :innocent:

White trash
2nd May 2012, 12:24
You say the nicest things about Eddie :innocent:

What can I say, he's a good looking man............

scorry
2nd May 2012, 16:47
Agree and disagree with the clubmans statements above.

At the 1st round of south island cup i took my 600 along and entered F2 (which is actually F1 & F2 combined), hadnt ridden for 6 months and only had maybe an hours riding time on a 600.
Didnt get last, but was a good 4 + seconds a lap slower than the leaders and was pretty much riding by myself.

Decided to go in clubmans for R2 & 3, started at the back as i didnt have a grid position, worked my way up to 3rd and didnt push anyone out fo the way getting there.
R3 i started in 3rd (start where you finish was the grids for the day) took the hole shot and never got passed, so again riding by myself, was a good feeling taking the checkered though.

My racing used to be competitive but now im on a 6 year old bike and there is no way i would be competitive in F2 (not to say i wont enter it though).
As long as i am battling with someone i enjoy the racing, even if it is for last.

So... i was far too slow for F2 and maybe just a little quick for clubmans (im guessing this is the case for many)

Am i a burglar?

I didnt care if i won the class or not, i just thought i would have more people to battle with in clubmans.

Brett
2nd May 2012, 17:03
Interesting to hear the comments re: clubmans...as it is something I have been thinking about. Personally, I would see it as a way to get into racing and improve myself as opposed to actually winning anything or becoming a superstar, therefore if show ponies want to come along on their GSXCBR1 with full Ohlins underwear and show me how slow I am compared to them...then I couldn't give a shit. As long as they don't take me out with their show boating, go for it...at least I can cheat and learn from the lines used by the more experienced racers.

I love the whole "run what you brung" thing though, kinda keeps the racing lighthearted and not too serious (or at least it's supposed to...)

300weatherby
2nd May 2012, 19:16
Andy Stewart Stop talking crap , I never took transponders from Clubmans in Canterbury, we just didn't score the class as a Club championship for the very reason, real Clubman riders were getting lapped by a pack of bikes racing in what should have been a fun class. Some guys want to live in Clubmans and take 1st in Clubmans rather than 6th or 7th or 10th in their legitimate class. Most of the guys that had been racing in clubmans for a long time told us they learnt more racing in their correct class with riders like Dennis Charlett and James Smith in one meeting than they had all year circulating with less experienced riders. Shit amongst Kings or King amongst shit , sounds like you prefer the latter. You ride a 675, your in 600 supersport / superstock easy. Clubmans is for new Club riders , it's always interesting watching the so called Clubman riders turn up with wets , spare wheels , warmers , sometimes spare bikes so they can blitz the guys out there on road bikes and new riders etc. The so called guys who parked their bikes and quit only did because they were no longer as good as they thought they were when they went into their correct class, they cared only about themselves not about the new guys coming into the sport. I remember you complaining bitterly about Mark Taylor racing his Ducati in Clubmans at the Timaru round of the Nationals a couple of years back because he was to fast and agressive and you demanded we kick him out and into Superbike or you would lodge a protest , the very thing less experienced riders complained to the Club about you. Race in your legitimate class and stop trying to be a show pony in Clubmans.

You bloody decided to take away transponders from clubmans you tosser-no effect on me given I don't race clubmans at local level anyhow, I hate bullies and stick up for both myself and people being picked on, especially by meglamaniacs like you. Next time you are down here you know where to find me........... As for Mark Taylor, an ex NZ class champion on a world class superbike cutting up and forcing off the track lesser riders, and without sanction. you remember 20 odd clubbies in your face about it at the time?- your response at the time was that" you are only clubmans and don't count, that you have no importance and don't really need to be there"- yeah now you are really pissing me off. I (and a few other people by the way) remember you sneaking around the pits and disconnecting tyre warmers when no one was looking cause you decided to ease the strain on the Ruapuna track generator..........Ha Ha, you never knew that Marie went around plugging them back in again........ fuck me, off here for 5 minutes and come back to find you lurking, how unfortunate.

300weatherby
2nd May 2012, 19:24
I've got to add, this is one of the reasons I asked my question in this thread. I've been considering trying my hand at clubmans, but on the days I've been out to meets and seen the 'professionalism' of clubmans bikes etc I figured I'd be wasting my time on my road bike with my limited track experience. I'm not slow, but I'm not breaking into the sub 40's any time soon.

You may be confusing Clubmans at local level with National Clubmans (maybe?), Clubbies at local level is not sub 40 and there is a whole bunch of speeds, bike types, reasons to be on the track, no real pressure or carving up ect, you would be fine, not alot different to a friday practice on a busy day.

300weatherby
2nd May 2012, 19:44
You have a point. The purchase of a Ray Clee tuned superbike, once ridden by the best looking mofo in New Zealand racing is possibly a bit extreme for Clubmans.

Clubmans at the 2012 Nats ( as opposed to clubbies at local levels) RSV4 Aprilia's, 1098R, BMW1000RR's, RSV Millie thous, ZX10, an ex Brian Bernard R1,and a bunch of GSXR 1000's yep, my bike was a bit extreme......... Did the first round on the GSXR,won two races, did Levels on my 675 could only manage 4th at best, and wound up doing Tere on my 675 managed second once, at levels and Tere got absolutely killed by the superbikes. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight. (even if it is sharp!)

onearmedbandit
2nd May 2012, 20:14
You may be confusing Clubmans at local level with National Clubmans (maybe?), Clubbies at local level is not sub 40 and there is a whole bunch of speeds, bike types, reasons to be on the track, no real pressure or carving up ect, you would be fine, not alot different to a friday practice on a busy day.

Yup I'd say you're right. Local level I'd been more where I'd like to be, somewhat competitive so I can learn more.

FROSTY
2nd May 2012, 20:26
This thread has gone waaay off topic -Um I thought I'd ask the question re clubbie http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149424-Clubmans-racing-Whats-it-all-about?p=1130315548#post1130315548

300weatherby
2nd May 2012, 21:03
This thread has gone waaay off topic -Um I thought I'd ask the question re clubbie http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/149424-Clubmans-racing-Whats-it-all-about?p=1130315548#post1130315548

Yeah, this thread was about selling a bike originally.

No real answer without actuall rules, rule of thumb might be if you are not running at the front of clubbies, stay there, if you are at the front all the time, maybe you go to your formula class, trouble is you can wind up in that grey area, too fast for one, too slow for the other, and you learn nothing from riding around by yourself waiting for the fast guys to lap you. Would rather battle than "do laps " waiting. Do what makes you feel comfortable is the best answer I've got, without proper rules.

mickeyboy
3rd May 2012, 12:04
You bloody decided to take away transponders from clubmans you tosser-no effect on me given I don't race clubmans at local level anyhow, I hate bullies and stick up for both myself and people being picked on, especially by meglamaniacs like you. Next time you are down here you know where to find me........... As for Mark Taylor, an ex NZ class champion on a world class superbike cutting up and forcing off the track lesser riders, and without sanction. you remember 20 odd clubbies in your face about it at the time?- your response at the time was that" you are only clubmans and don't count, that you have no importance and don't really need to be there"- yeah now you are really pissing me off. I (and a few other people by the way) remember you sneaking around the pits and disconnecting tyre warmers when no one was looking cause you decided to ease the strain on the Ruapuna track generator..........Ha Ha, you never knew that Marie went around plugging them back in again........ fuck me, off here for 5 minutes and come back to find you lurking, how unfortunate.

Again Andy you are wrong, but I suppose if you spend your life as a blamer then your view on things will always be that way inclined. Why would I want to find you next time I'm down in Chch ? I normally enjoy my trips to the South Island, associate with like minded people, ride my KTM and have fun , seeking you out is not a high priority for me, sorry if that leaves you feeling unloved. With regards to your distorted comments, I will clarify what actually happened and why. Clubmans was becoming a problem for the Club because the level of competition was becoming to intense and some (yourself being the main perpetrator ) were treating the class way to seriously,2 bikes , wets etc etc. The decision was made by the committee to remove the competition aspect from the class by not scoring it as a Club championship. If riders wanted to run a transponder they could and they would be timed but not scored. This is quite different to your view on things, but again after reading your post I now understand that your thought process is quite narcisstic and you don't mind a good story getting in the way of the truth. Who went into Clubmans is at the discretion of the Steward and the class became what it should have been, a class for new and learning riders or riders that were just wanting to have fun and enjoy their day at the track at a low key level. Like I have already stated,most riders (you not being one of them) were happy to move into their respective class. I'm sorry this change meant you could no longer be the Motorcycling Canterbury Clubmans champion, I was unaware of the psychological effect this had on you and apologise for the fact Motorcycling Canterbury failed to supply the correct medication to help you overcome this traumatic event. Your recollection of the Timaru event is also clouded. There weren't 20 Clubbies in my face for your information Andy, you were the one doing all the grandstanding, no one else. The point I made was you complained about the very thing people were complaining about you, forget the incidentals of who and why etc etc the principal stands, Clubmans is a fun class not a soft out for riders who want to look good. The Clubmans championship at the 3 South Island National rounds was actually my idea Andy as was the Mcleary Cup for Streetstock so your comments about "your only clubbies etc etc" is also incorrect.

Now I understand fully the mental anquish you suffered at loosing your status as King of Clubmans I have a better understanding of your personal fragilities. FYI I have checked with the current committe at MCI and the rules for Clubmans (non scored fun class) are still in place and work very well for the riders the class is there to accomodate. As to unplugging tyre warmers again another mistruth from the mind of a post traumatic stress victim suffering from paranoia. I have attatched a link:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2012/March/mar1212-rossi-and-stoner-gp-bikes-for-sale/ Both stoner and rossi's 2010 and 2011 moto gp Ducati's are for sale , maybe you could buy one and enter in Clubmans , it may help your rehabilitation. Get well soon. Mick

White trash
3rd May 2012, 12:14
Bwahahahaha, fuck you're a funny cunt Mick. Great post.

ARNIE
3rd May 2012, 12:30
This is the most interesting thing here for ages, hows the bike sale going??

Grumph
3rd May 2012, 12:49
Bugger the bike sale...this is more interesting.

Mark's a big boy and able to defend himself if he wanted to get into this shit slinging...which i doubt.

Funniest thing I've heard for years was him and heartburn comparing how fucked they were at teretonga.
As I understand it he doesn't feel comfortable against the top boys as his fitness level and ability to move around on the bike is compromised - so a quiet trundle in Clubmans to keep the adrenaline flowing suits nicely. IE ---NOT SERIOUS RACING.

If the basic speed is still there to make most of clubmans look slow...fair enough.

And BTW - Mark's ex Hepburn GSXR is a right pig compared to later versions...

CHOPPA
3rd May 2012, 13:00
Bugger the bike sale...this is more interesting.

Mark's a big boy and able to defend himself if he wanted to get into this shit slinging...which i doubt.

Funniest thing I've heard for years was him and heartburn comparing how fucked they were at teretonga.
As I understand it he doesn't feel comfortable against the top boys as his fitness level and ability to move around on the bike is compromised - so a quiet trundle in Clubmans to keep the adrenaline flowing suits nicely. IE ---NOT SERIOUS RACING.

If the basic speed is still there to make most of clubmans look slow...fair enough.

And BTW - the GSXR is a right pig compared to later versions...

There is very little difference in feel between the K7 to the current???

mickeyboy
3rd May 2012, 13:31
Bwahahahaha, fuck you're a funny cunt Mick. Great post.

who is white trash ??

nodrog
3rd May 2012, 13:39
who is white trash ??

3/4 of Hamilton.

SVboy
3rd May 2012, 15:06
Not often a :corn: is the appropriate post in online trading but it is in this instance!

mickeyboy
3rd May 2012, 15:33
3/4 of Hamilton.

You maybe onto something SV boy , very shallow gene pool up this way.

short-circuit
3rd May 2012, 16:49
Not often a :corn: is the appropriate post in online trading but it is in this instance!

I concur :corn:

jellywrestler
3rd May 2012, 20:58
up North, winning Clubmans is a bit like being single for five years then bringing home Susan Boyle...

mickeyboy
5th May 2012, 11:32
up North, winning Clubmans is a bit like being single for five years then bringing home Susan Boyle...

Jelly, Leave Susan alone , your no oil painting yourself .

Kickaha
5th May 2012, 11:42
Jelly, Leave Susan alone , your no oil painting yourself .

He's not even badly scrawled graffiti