200 2 smokers

[Crabby]

Just looking at options for my next bike...

Who makes 200 2 strokes?
Favourite is a Gas Gas Ec200, but im weary about parts availability, Next would come the ktm 200 XC.

What else is there ?

[L Rider]

Isn't there a ktm 200 exc also?

[SMOKEU]

Kdx200......

[mattnzl]

Have had my Gas Gas (ec250) for a few months and no drama's with parts. If you're used to walking into a dealer & getting instant access to every single part then it will be an issue, but if you do mostly online ordering it's no problem.

Noobi will probably chime in with more info, but common stuff I've had to get have all been easy: brake pads & air filters (Honda CR so no worries there) chain & sprockets easy too. bits4bikes have common items and motoxparts a bit too.

Had a kdx200 before this (still have it) and the use of an exc200 too - I'm quite happy ridding any of them really!
FWIW my local Kawasaki dealer never has any parts I need in stock either, so no change.

[ktm84mxc]

The only real choices are the GasGas or KTM a KDX will be hard to find new though not impossible, it would be a toss up between the GasGas or KTM both are equally great bikes talk to your local dealers about spares & parts back up. You may wish to consider a 150 also as there is a bigger choice eg TM, Husky, Husaberg, KTM, big bore YZ & RM 125's etc all with there merits.

[Jinxycat]

KTM do three, exe, xc, and xc-w,

I only know cos ive been looking :D

[noobi]

Iv got 2 gasgas'.
I bought both of them because they fitted what I wanted from a bike, not because I set out to get one.
Simply an enduro 2 stroke. That's straight away only the European brands and the KDX.
Had a sit on a KDX, too big and heavy. KTMs are really tall. Husqvarnas are also really tall. GasGas' are quite a bit smaller than KTMs and Huskys.
Got the Gasgas and couldn't be happier on it, im not very tall, can you tell?
Genuine parts aren't a problem for me, I just email my dealer and pay by CC and the stuff turns up. Theres aftermarket for pretty much all the wear items which you can get from any brand dealer.

[Reckless]

KTM do three, exe, xc, and xc-w,

I only know cos ive been looking :D

From what I can make out its actually 2, the bits for my 08 200 exc are pretty much interchangable between the XC-w.
Both have the wide ratio box but I think the NZ exc is pretty much the XC_W but comes with the lights etc std.
Just getting a Knarly pipe for it as mine is shagged and I'll order the USA exc-w one for the NZ exc from BTO.
Pretty sure they are pretty much same but named differently for each country :)

What year you aiming for jinxy?? Major revision years where 08 and 2012 I think? Def major chassis revision between the 07 and 08 models.
Although they changed the steering head angle in 09 which was strange for them to do such a big change out of the 3 year cycle.
I was damn lucky mine came with 6 days clamps so already had the 18deg option.

Good Luck mate they are a damn good bike, very under estimated :)

[Crabby]

Thanks for the replies Guys, will have to have a closer look at a gas gas ( if I can find one), im short but seat height doesn't really bother me so the KTM will be the most likely candidate.

Ive had several KDX's but not really keen on another, great bikes, but always found the suspension a bit lacking, want something with more MX style suspension.

is the Gas Gas a 6 or 5 speed?

[ktm84mxc]

Yep can be hard to find a model to sit on, the Red Baron group are selling GasGas and there's an 09 in there Tauranga store its on Trademe $9700 and its new so a deal could be had.
There's a 011 in the deep south but freighting it up here will be expensive.

[Jinxycat]

From what I can make out its actually 2, the bits for my 08 200 exc are pretty much interchangable between the XC-w.
Both have the wide ratio box but I think the NZ exc is pretty much the XC_W but comes with the lights etc std.
Just getting a Knarly pipe for it as mine is shagged and I'll order the USA exc-w one for the NZ exc from BTO.
Pretty sure they are pretty much same but named differently for each country :)

What year you aiming for jinxy?? Major revision years where 08 and 2012 I think? Def major chassis revision between the 07 and 08 models.
Although they changed the steering head angle in 09 which was strange for them to do such a big change out of the 3 year cycle.
I was damn lucky mine came with 6 days clamps so already had the 18deg option.

Good Luck mate they are a damn good bike, very under estimated :)

you interested in a swap for a WR250F ? lol.

[Jinxycat]

this one is cool, its a xc-w so pds rear, xc has a link rear, open cartridge forks, xc has closed, also xc has the machined tripple clamps, so the -w really is a slightly lower spec front end and a pds rear, anyhow im rambling now, here is the link

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=449941231

[Jinxycat]

oh and one last thing, the Euro shop on Barrys point road has a stack of 150xc, and a second hand one for good money, so if a 150 is enough then go look:yes:

[noobi]

Thanks for the replies Guys, will have to have a closer look at a gas gas ( if I can find one), im short but seat height doesn't really bother me so the KTM will be the most likely candidate.

Ive had several KDX's but not really keen on another, great bikes, but always found the suspension a bit lacking, want something with more MX style suspension.

is the Gas Gas a 6 or 5 speed?

6 speed.

Yea, the xcw and the exc are the same basic bike, with the exc having some stuff to make it road legal.
XC is similar but has the suspension from the SX models. When they went to linkages and the new chassis in 2011, the 2012 XCs got those chassis upgrades, wheras the XCW and EXC are still PDS and the pre 2011 chassis.

[L Rider]

oh and one last thing, the Euro shop on Barrys point road has a stack of 150xc, and a second hand one for good money, so if a 150 is enough then go look:yes:

Do you know what price they have on the 2nd hand 150? Hours etc? 2011 or 2012?

[Jinxycat]

I think they wanted around $10500, bike is mint just a couple of scuffs, cant remember the hours but was very low, i thought quite hard and nearly bought it, lol.

[mattnzl]

17 hours according to their trademe ad.

[L Rider]

I think they wanted around $10500, bike is mint just a couple of scuffs, cant remember the hours but was very low, i thought quite hard and nearly bought it, lol.

There was one on TM down Taupo way being sold private (may have relisted). Think they want around $9500 & its got under 10 hours on it.

[F5 Dave]

If you don't have the budget for newish then my old one is on TM. Owner took panels off so look a bit gruff, but still has them


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-424390731.htm

Is a sound bike, I only sold it when I fell in love with a newer GG300. Bargain price & he hardly rode it.


Parts are easy & of course can buy new ones in most citys, not sure why people think they are harder to find parts for.

The GG is better suited in my opinion for shorter riders. I'm 5'8" & cope fine. Guy who bought my bike was shorter. Generations ahead of the KDX & I prefered to the KTM, but I've only ridden older ones.

[george formby]

If you don't have the budget for newish then my old one is on TM. Owner took panels off so look a bit gruff, but still has them


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-424390731.htm

Is a sound bike, I only sold it when I fell in love with a newer GG300. Bargain price & he hardly rode it.


Parts are easy & of course can buy new ones in most citys, not sure why people think they are harder to find parts for.

The GG is better suited in my opinion for shorter riders. I'm 5'8" & cope fine. Guy who bought my bike was shorter. Generations ahead of the KDX & I prefered to the KTM, but I've only ridden older ones.

Has this bike ever been registered?

[F5 Dave]

nope. .

[F5 Dave]

Actually I will add that I dropped the rear of my 200 ~10-20mm by making some offset bushes that slipped into the dogbones (easy to reverse) & dropped the forks down as much as would go. Can't do that easily on the KTM.

On my 300 as I'm more confident i didn't bother, but I don't run heaps of preload at the rear which is recommended on some GG set up sites so I followed the advice & handles great. (ie: still in realms of normal just on the lesser scale).

[gsig]

Actually I will add that I dropped the rear of my 200 ~10-20mm by making some offset bushes that slipped into the dogbones (easy to reverse) & dropped the forks down as much as would go. Can't do that easily on the KTM.

I beg to differ...

X-Bushing (http://shop.synergyseals.com/product.sc?productId=18&categoryId=6)

[F5 Dave]

Ahh, that's a good idea. Bit spendy, so $80 & another $30 for the bolt convert to US & Freight. Still, not too bad really. I just made some offset bushes on the lathe.

[Scratch72]

If you don't have the budget for newish then my old one is on TM. Owner took panels off so look a bit gruff, but still has them


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-424390731.htm

Is a sound bike, I only sold it when I fell in love with a newer GG300. Bargain price & he hardly rode it.


Parts are easy & of course can buy new ones in most citys, not sure why people think they are harder to find parts for.

The GG is better suited in my opinion for shorter riders. I'm 5'8" & cope fine. Guy who bought my bike was shorter. Generations ahead of the KDX & I prefered to the KTM, but I've only ridden older ones.

Hi F5 Dave hay my son is quite keen on your old GasGas would you be happy to look over it for us.

[F5 Dave]

Sorry, its in Wainui & I don't have much spare time. It was pretty good when I sold it & he has hardly ridden it. the only odd thing was he took off all the bodywork to clean it all & hasn't put it back fully. Give him a call.

[Scratch72]

Sorry, its in Wainui & I don't have much spare time. It was pretty good when I sold it & he has hardly ridden it. the only odd thing was he took off all the bodywork to clean it all & hasn't put it back fully. Give him a call.

Hi hay no worries yea we will ring and have a chat, Josh is going to sit on some bikes this weekend for sizing to give us some idea.

[thorns]

Bit of a bump here.
How would someone 6ft2, and around 110kgs go on a KTM 200?
Is my fat ass to much for a smaller capacity bike like this, and be better off on a 250/300?
Would class myself as in between beginner and intermediate on the riding skills scale if that makes any difference.

[Transalper]

In Christchurch if you want to talk Gas Gas then you could go see our local enthusiast and dealer Linton at Dirt Action Services in Saxon Street.
You could see how big he is and which ones he rides for starters... but go when you have some time to burn as once you get him started the conversation line may grow and grow.

EDIT: sorry last poster asked about KTM, op mentioned Gas Gas. Linton might still be good to talk to though.