Geoff the giant small bike

[ducatilover]

Waiting for a gasket set and piston, so just threw some top end on it and test fitted the engine to run the cables etc
Might need to finish the tank...

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I am liking how the new tank sits, the old gay teardrop GN tank was nearly on the motor...

Might need some slightly lower bars I think, will try sway these for some flat bars.

Not sure what colours to do the tank, but I have lots of black, so probably black and silver two tone (knee inserts on tank silver?)

Not a hell of a lot to buy for it now, just the switch gear, oil cooler, chain/sprockets so it's not a revvy fuck and exh piping.
I think...

[Buyasta]

That's looking pretty decent, and should look a whole lot better once the tank is painted, but the seat and tail light seem a bit off to me - it's just begging for a cafe racer style rear end with flush-mount tail light and some mini indicators, a little like this (http://www.caferacertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/velocity-cafe-racer-tv-season-3-bike-of-the-week-kawasaki-z650-1.jpg).

[ducatilover]

I would do it, but I need this one to be comfy as it'll be my main transport when it's done :yes:


You're right about the tail light for shure
Might think about mounting it different and perhaps trim the gaurd

Must keep simple... :facepalm:

[Buyasta]

Nice, the seat doesn't actually look bad, I'm just a bit partial to a cafe racer rear end, once you've remounted the tail light and painted the tank it should look pretty sweet.
And for that matter if you did want a comfy cafe rear end, surely you could just make a cowl that attaches to the rear subframe and just slips over the rear half of the seat, so you're still using the normal, well padded seat?

[ducatilover]

Nice, the seat doesn't actually look bad, I'm just a bit partial to a cafe racer rear end, once you've remounted the tail light and painted the tank it should look pretty sweet.
And for that matter if you did want a comfy cafe rear end, surely you could just make a cowl that attaches to the rear subframe and just slips over the rear half of the seat, so you're still using the normal, well padded seat?

I love cafes too :Punk: and I will build a proper one, one of these days
I thought about a bolt on seat cowl, but I'm fussy and a cafe tail, to me, needs to have a set of clip ons/clubmans and high pegs too. I'll go more scrambler with it, just to keep an upright position :woohoo: and an excuse for sick headers

[Buyasta]

I love cafes too :Punk: and I will build a proper one, one of these days
I thought about a bolt on seat cowl, but I'm fussy and a cafe tail, to me, needs to have a set of clip ons/clubmans and high pegs too. I'll go more scrambler with it, just to keep an upright position :woohoo: and an excuse for sick headers

Fair enough, after reading your build threads I had a feeling you might have a bit of an aversion to going with a half-assed workaround rather than doing it properly. ;)
Good call though, I reckon it'd look awesome with some flatter bars and a scrambler style exhaust a bit like this (http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/tridays-triumph-scrambler.jpg).

[ducatilover]

Essentially that, minus the USDs is what I'm kind of going for :D
I'll be buying two sets of flat bars, one for this and I'm going to throw a set on the ZX6 to see if they look any good, that bike's hellishly uncomfy, only because it looks pretty.

[ducatilover]

I've been looking at my ginormous front rim. I think, if it has the right amount of spokes, I'll buy another rear (16 inch) and lace it up. Then I could run a nice looking 120 front and 130 rear.
I reckon that'll make the beasty look awesome :yes:

I mounted the speedo 15mm lower today, it looks mucho nicer too.

No other progress except a few carb bits and the oil cap are in the vibratory polisher thingy I've inherited from Bogan, along with lots of his stuff that makes my parts look like cheap shit (which they are) :laugh:

[ducatilover]

Righto, can fit a 16 on the front
But, might look at getting some 17s, a few oldish 'zuki's ran 17 in rears with 36 spokes, but they were 4.5in I think, so I'll measure up and see how muchy room I have front and rear :yes:


Anyhoo, tank is etch primed and waiting for me to throw some bog in the dents, probably manage this evening http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image225_zps4fdd0028.jpghttp://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image224_zps6dd99125.jpghttp://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image223_zps2b5c0d52.jpg

[frogfeaturesFZR]

That looks bloody good, great job.

[ducatilover]

Black and white tank it shall be with my home made rangi tank pads http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image260_zpsabf80c6e.jpg http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image259_zpsf00856a6.jpg

[ducatilover]

Run out of thinners so no clear yet, but it's getting there.
Will be a pin stripe on the black/white edge :2thumbsup
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[ducatilover]

Thank you MSTRS
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[ducatilover]

I accidentally a cafe...
279200279201 :cool: we'll see where this goes...

[ducatilover]

Might leave this picture here

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/dirtydoogle/Image308_zps1d6e11ef.jpg
Did some things and stuff over the last week or something.

[bogan]

Camera angle is wrong, it should be pointed about 40 degrees to the right.

I like that can placement from a visual aspect, but it looks pretty warm...

I prefer the gold strips to the large white patches, its coming along nicely :yes:

[ducatilover]

:lol: There's a Honda frame ruining that pic!!!!

Err it might get a tiny bit warm there? Looks choice though ;)

[ducatilover]

Moved it away from that pesky Honda frame :bleh:

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Going to have to get some lateral thinking going on with the 'zorst. Really want a scrambler-esque like this. But I think I'll move the muffler back a bit

Begging for clear coat and a cut and polish currently and those indicators are incredibly stupid looking

Some how this screaming heap of gayness has amassed over 10k views here :D

[banditrider]

Looking good!

In case you want to start thinking bigger: http://thekneeslider.com/allen-millyard-builds-a-5-liter-v-twin/

[ducatilover]

Looking good!

In case you want to start thinking bigger: http://thekneeslider.com/allen-millyard-builds-a-5-liter-v-twin/

;) Cheers

5 liters? Bah, way too small! I want valves bigger than me

[Oblivion]

;) Cheers

5 liters? Bah, way too small! I want valves bigger than me

Ikr.... We need something bigger than a beer mug...

[ducatilover]

Ikr.... We need something bigger than a beer mug...

Darn right mate!

[ducatilover]

Should be back in to the bike in a few weeks when I'm back from Tauranga again.

I'm still undecided on whether I prefer the cafe tail, or the flat, twin seat tail with the rear guard. :rolleyes:
I think I'll just get another seat, so I can run either one

Got a LHS switch block for it, should have my throttle block and grips in a few weeks. :niceone:
So first thing I'll be doing to it this time will be finalising the new loom I've done and checking it over.

Still need to find a GS450 fuel tap
Still needs mounts, and 'zorst. I've been looking out for other mufflers like the one it has, but I've run out of work so money's tight 'til the cars sells. :(

[ducatilover]

Really shouldn't spend so much time in every town in NZ except home eh?
Finally finished the hump in the seat and put the shocks back on, so I had to pause to take some impressively shit pictures on my impressively shit phone of my impressively shit motorbicycle :niceone:
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Needs another inch of ride height in the rear, at least.

Not really much of an update though :rolleyes: only got home yesterday
I'm polishing the spare head (no, not the polishing one does for performance either...) because I'm a fucking magpie. I'll be a bit of a mission, but I'm a strange fellow who enjoys such stupidity.

Got the new switch gear from that lovely China place. It's chrome, of course.
The throttle assembly is in ze vibratory tumblerator finishernator thingymabob along with some other things and whatnot for other stuff (long sentences saying nothing, practicing being a polly-tishun)

[unstuck]

Good stuff fella. Looks sorta bogan. :headbang::headbang:

[ducatilover]

:Punk: Cheers dude, bogan is a good way to look.

[nzspokes]

What did you make the tank pad from?

[ducatilover]

Some random textured foam I had floating around for no apparent reason

[unstuck]

Some random textured foam I had floating around for no apparent reason

Thank god for that, I thought a bogan like you would of used the pad material WITH WINGS for added protection.:devil2:

[Drew]

You are a sick cunt Doug!

[ducatilover]

Thank god for that, I thought a bogan like you would of used the pad material WITH WINGS for added protection.:devil2:
Nah, blood doesn't wash off them and they get big in the wet

You are a sick cunt Doug!

Thanks Drew :woohoo:

[ducatilover]

Got a few days free, love being sick.

Might throw some gold tube bits at the front tomorrow :innocent:

[T.W.R]

Nice wee project, looks vaguely similar to Borile B500CR :niceone:

imagine the fun you'd have polishing that :eek:

[Drew]

Nice wee project, looks vaguely similar to Borile B500CR :niceone:

imagine the fun you'd have polishing that :eek:
Holy shit, that is one fucken ugly bike!

[T.W.R]

Holy shit, that is one fucken ugly bike!

:clap: says he who has his bike named after a fucken ugly big oil tanker :lol:

FWIW they're actually one of the best rated handbuilt cafe' racer rep singles you can get

[Drew]

:clap: says he who has his bike named after a fucken ugly big oil tanker :lol:Known, for not holding it's oil to boot!


FWIW they're actually one of the best rated handbuilt cafe' racer rep singles you can getIt's a production bike then?

I prefer these guys stuff...

http://www.benjiescaferacer.com/convkit-yamaha-xs650.php

[T.W.R]

Known, for not holding it's oil to boot!

It's a production bike then?

I prefer these guys stuff...

http://www.benjiescaferacer.com/convkit-yamaha-xs650.php

lol you must have been drowned in the oil form your tanker :facepalm:

Borile are quite alive and making bikes :bleh:

http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.borile.it%2Fgb_chi.html&ei=s2D3UYiYK-iSiAKDvoD4CA&usg=AFQjCNFtZz_PdnvM9UKkTCX0i6F-bNC3Mw&bvm=bv.49967636,d.cGE

A nice wee factory in Venice Italy make a few different models including one called a BASTARD :laugh:

[ducatilover]

Nice wee project, looks vaguely similar to Borile B500CR :niceone:

imagine the fun you'd have polishing that :eek:

:love: That's bloody tasty, I wish I had half the skill needed to slap one of them together.

Right, I'm too lazy to assemble my ZXR400H2 forks, so I stole the H1 units off the Kawasilly.
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There isn't a massive amount of clearance to be running the 160 rear on the stock swinger, so I'll probably try find a nice 150 rear, orrrrr get a real swing arm :sunny: I hadn't noticed how much I'd abused the tyres while they were on the Kawasaki though, some wanker must have stolen it and actually leaned it over?

Thoughts on the whole OTT USD and fat rims idea?

[Drew]

Thoughts on the whole OTT USD and fat rims idea?I think they will be too heavy, for the performance gains that are possible by using the right stuff.

And the thing must have over 100mm of trail with that set up!

[ducatilover]

I think they will be too heavy, for the performance gains that are possible by using the right stuff.

And the thing must have over 100mm of trail with that set up!
Putting parts on a GN is never seriously considering performance though is it?
Axle is further back than the standard one by an inch, and the front is lower than standard :lol:

[bogan]

http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/31fe005265baf0ba114a4988baf7e6f0/http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/dasrabblerouser/neat_bender.jpg

[unstuck]

:love: That's bloody tasty, I wish I had half the skill needed to slap one of them together.

Right, I'm too lazy to assemble my ZXR400H2 forks, so I stole the H1 units off the Kawasilly.


There isn't a massive amount of clearance to be running the 160 rear on the stock swinger, so I'll probably try find a nice 150 rear, orrrrr get a real swing arm :sunny: I hadn't noticed how much I'd abused the tyres while they were on the Kawasaki though, some wanker must have stolen it and actually leaned it over?

Thoughts on the whole OTT USD and fat rims idea?

Does my bum look big in this.:bleh::bleh:

[T.W.R]

You need to throw a old school DR400/SP370 donk in it ;)

Get another GN swingarm and cut it and make an underslung brace and a 150 would make it drop into corners more quickly

[ducatilover]

You need to throw a old school DR400/SP370 donk in it ;)

I think the DR600 that's in it will suit my needs :bleh:

Get another GN swingarm and cut it and make an underslung brace and a 150 would make it drop into corners more quickly
Bloody good idea thanks, was just thinking of making a full custom jobbie, because I don't think I can get Pilot Powers in a 150? And they're my favourite tyre out of all the stuff I've had.
I'll have an ask around for another swinger though, underbraced is the way it will be done, regardless (it's just too cool)

Does my bum look big in this.:bleh::bleh:

Never dear southern man

[T.W.R]

I think the DR600 that's in it will suit my needs :bleh:

Bloody good idea thanks, was just thinking of making a full custom jobbie, because I don't think I can get Pilot Powers in a 150? And they're my favourite tyre out of all the stuff I've had.
I'll have an ask around for another swinger though, underbraced is the way it will be done, regardless (it's just too cool)


lol you need to read an article I've got called Mountain Thumper :yes:

:2thumbsup 150/55 Dragon Corsa ;) stick like shit to a blanket

there'll be shitloads of GN bits around, even a GZ marauder swinger... they're just a GN with a broken back

[ducatilover]

lol you need to read an article I've got called Mountain Thumper :yes:

:2thumbsup 150/55 Dragon Corsa ;) stick like shit to a blanket

there'll be shitloads of GN bits around, even a GZ marauder swinger... they're just a GN with a broken back

Them old 400/370 lumps rather good are they? This 589 owes me
$20 for the motor, which had fresh bearings (best buy, ever) with all electrics, new rings, 2 clutches and a bunch of goodies incl. a TM38 ;)
$10 for a kick start spring
$20 for a brand new cam (from the same guy the motor was from) which may or may not get ground
$26 NOS piston out of Japland.
By my shit math, that's $76 :2thumbsup fairly cheap for a very, very lazy 44hp (according to the manual I have...I doubt it's that much)

Might build a swinger, just because I can/want to/waste time and money etc. :yes:
If I had access to a lathe I could turn up a new cross tube so I can run sealed bearings instead of the needle rollers it has.
It'll be easier to brace it by bending some tuve anyway, as it's essentially two bits of round, with a slab up front to pretend it won't flex :sweatdrop

Oooh, I'll have a perv at the Dragon Corsa
A mate of mine said he will do me a good deal on the Maxxis M6209 (I think?)

[T.W.R]

Them old 400/370 lumps rather good are they? This 589 owes me
$20 for the motor, which had fresh bearings (best buy, ever) with all electrics, new rings, 2 clutches and a bunch of goodies incl. a TM38 ;)
$10 for a kick start spring
$20 for a brand new cam (from the same guy the motor was from) which may or may not get ground
$26 NOS piston out of Japland.
By my shit math, that's $76 :2thumbsup fairly cheap for a very, very lazy 44hp (according to the manual I have...I doubt it's that much)

Might build a swinger, just because I can/want to/waste time and money etc. :yes:
If I had access to a lathe I could turn up a new cross tube so I can run sealed bearings instead of the needle rollers it has.
It'll be easier to brace it by bending some tuve anyway, as it's essentially two bits of round, with a slab up front to pretend it won't flex :sweatdrop

Oooh, I'll have a perv at the Dragon Corsa
A mate of mine said he will do me a good deal on the Maxxis M6209 (I think?)


Fark cheap enough :yes: you wouldn't do better than that :2thumbsup If you find one the old 370/400 was pretty indestructible & a good SP370 would cruise all day at 70mph without breaking a sweat.

ha 44hp is enough for a single, better to be able to use all of it most of the time rather than a bit of it once n awhile ;)

Splicing up two swingarms to complete a braced unit would simple as piss to do. All the hard stuff is done....no worrying about exact bends, just getting cut angles right & appropriate bridging plates.
Id sell you my lathe for the right coin but it'd make things an expensive exercise then.

lol maxxis are better off left to tend their trade with off road tyres & mountain bike tyres :oi-grr:

[ducatilover]

Fark cheap enough :yes: you wouldn't do better than that :2thumbsup If you find one the old 370/400 was pretty indestructible & a good SP370 would cruise all day at 70mph without breaking a sweat.

ha 44hp is enough for a single, better to be able to use all of it most of the time rather than a bit of it once n awhile ;) Agreed. I reckon the 589 will tootle along very nicely. And finally I'll have some brakes and rubber


Splicing up two swingarms to complete a braced unit would simple as piss to do. All the hard stuff is done....no worrying about exact bends, just getting cut angles right & appropriate bridging plates.
Id sell you my lathe for the right coin but it'd make things an expensive exercise then.
I'll have a proper looky in to doing a braced arm with the original then :2thumbsup But I'd like to make new rear plates where the axle goes and raise the shock mounts to raise the bum of the bike, and will need mounts for a rear caliper.
I can't afford any toys at the mo, blardy student loan is getting smaller by the week though.

Just had a thought, I might make some rear sets for it too, much like how the fact. rear pegs are mounted (not so far back though). Be easy as to do.



lol maxxis are better off left to tend their trade with off road tyres & mountain bike tyres :oi-grr: They made some damn good BMX and mountain bike tyres :D

[T.W.R]

I'll have a proper looky in to doing a braced arm with the original then :2thumbsup But I'd like to make new rear plates where the axle goes and raise the shock mounts to raise the bum of the bike, and will need mounts for a rear caliper.
I can't afford any toys at the mo, blardy student loan is getting smaller by the week though.

Just had a thought, I might make some rear sets for it too, much like how the fact. rear pegs are mounted (not so far back though). Be easy as to do.

lol you need a plasma cutter ;)



They made some damn good BMX and mountain bike tyres :D

I know I've the damn things on my Specialized BigHit III D/H toy :yes:

[ducatilover]

lol you need a plasma cutter ;) I cut through most things with my sharp wit.





I know I've the damn things on my Specialized BigHit III D/H toy :yes:

I had them on my yellow BMX I paid $10 for :facepalm:

Must decide on full custom swinger, or just mod the original. I love first world issues!

[Drew]

Putting parts on a GN is never seriously considering performance though is it?
Axle is further back than the standard one by an inch, and the front is lower than standard :lol:So you have one inch more trail then. How much lower is the headstock than standard? Need to be a lot to compensate for 25mm of trail.

Loving the swingarm idea. If you make one from scratch with sealed bearings, you will need to know someone with a bake oven. Can't remember what the process is called, but after you weld to the mounting tube it will need to be cooked good and proper with plugs in the bearing home so that it maintains it's shape. It's why we haven't built a new swingarm for our sidecar yet.

[ducatilover]

So you have one inch more trail then. How much lower is the headstock than standard? Need to be a lot to compensate for 25mm of trail. I'll work it out, but there are very few fucks I can be giving about how a GN handles :bleh:
The ZXR clamp offset is further forward than the GN one.
Front end is a lot lower, but will measure that.
Will be interesting to see how on the piss it is, I'm not fussed though :niceone: it's a GN, not a sports bike and it has a Doug riding it.


Loving the swingarm idea. If you make one from scratch with sealed bearings, you will need to know someone with a bake oven. Can't remember what the process is called, but after you weld to the mounting tube it will need to be cooked good and proper with plugs in the bearing home so that it maintains it's shape. It's why we haven't built a new swingarm for our sidecar yet.
Well, that does sound impractical :no: I don't know anyone with an oven capable of that. Would the same need to be done with the needle rollers? Could always go hori and turn up some bushings and pump the cunt full of grease

I took all the measurements for the swing arm this morning, too bloody crook to continue fluffing around in the garage though, but I should be able to design it now and a jig will be easy enough if I measure everything around 45 times :D
Once I grow some more scrotal fortitude I shall go back out and measure the steering geometry

Looking at where the swing arm will go etc, there will only need to be one bend on each of the rails, effectively the same as factory, but further forward to accommodate the tyre

[Drew]

If you turn a precise piece of tube, then weld to it, it won't be round anymore. Even if you are gonna bake it, you will need solid plugs to fit in the bearing home.

If you can get away with not welding to the pivot tube, do so or it Will eat bearings.

[bogan]

Or weld it and then machine the bearing surface...

To do a good job on the swingarm I reckon you'd need a decent sized mill to clock up the jig right anyway; plus machining afterwards means any other parts that distorted slightly during welding won't affect the final position.

[ducatilover]

Standard GN is 105mm trail.
Currently have 110mm
And I'm raising the rear to make it prettier, so it'll end up similar.

Still not worried about how it'll handle, it just has to look good and IMO with another 40 odd mm height in the arse, it'll look choice. :yes:


And it's not like GN geometry was good in the first place :facepalm: unstable shitters.

[ducatilover]

Or weld it and then machine the bearing surface...

To do a good job on the swingarm I reckon you'd need a decent sized mill to clock up the jig right anyway; plus machining afterwards means any other parts that distorted slightly during welding won't affect the final position.
Bah, jig with RHS bro. :lol:

If you turn a precise piece of tube, then weld to it, it won't be round anymore. Even if you are gonna bake it, you will need solid plugs to fit in the bearing home.

If you can get away with not welding to the pivot tube, do so or it Will eat bearings.

Good to know, thanks. I don't think I'd really get away without welding the tube.
Really would like to keep the rubber it has, because pretty tyres are good :facepalm:
But I suppose I may have to go with a 150 and brace the stocker
There may even be enough clearance as it is, but I'd rather not have it lock up at top speed, assuming I ever ride it.

I'll go over the rake/trail measurements again because my high on sinus drugs measuring is probably on the piss. ;)

[bogan]

Bah, jig with RHS bro. :lol:

haha, just make it aluminium RHS, better tolerances, which will surely show through in the final <s>butchery</s> product :innocent:

[ducatilover]

haha, just make it aluminium RHS, better tolerances, which will surely show through in the final <s>butchery</s> product :innocent:

Only got a DC tig and I can't weld alloy, so I can't even be that dodgy.
:lol:

She'll be sweet as :2thumbsup

[bogan]

Only got a DC tig and I can't weld alloy, so I can't even be that dodgy.
:lol:

She'll be sweet as :2thumbsup

I meant for the jig, you weren't planning on welding the jig were you?

[ducatilover]

I meant for the jig, you weren't planning on welding the jig were you?

I was planning on bubble gum for everything bro :msn-wink:
I wouldn't weld the jig, I'd end up with a swing arm like your Honda :bleh:

Another consideration could be a monoshock swap and alloy swing arm?

[bogan]

I was planning on bubble gum for everything bro :msn-wink:
I wouldn't weld the jig, I'd end up with a swing arm like your Honda :bleh:

Another consideration could be a monoshock swap and alloy swing arm?

How about we pause the discussion here until you've polished and delivered my swingarm :innocent: wouldn't want you getting any ideas in the meantime :sweatdrop :lol:

Alloy might not fit too well with the rest of the bike's frame. Small tube trellis styles is the way to go imo.

[ducatilover]

How about we pause the discussion here until you've polished and delivered my swingarm :innocent: wouldn't want you getting any ideas in the meantime :sweatdrop :lol:

Alloy might not fit too well with the rest of the bike's frame. Small tube trellis styles is the way to go imo.

I'm sick :bleh: no polishing :shifty:
BTW, I bolted it up and you're never getting it back!

But... I wants bling! You're right. And making a swing arm would be fun, no point doing anything logically here because it's a GN.
Righto! I'll start thinking about making a jig thing. :niceone:
Sommat like this but I don't think elliptical adjusters would look pretty on it http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/xschop/ZRX11swingarm.jpgPretty and very simple bit of gear eh?

[bogan]

I'm sick :bleh: no polishing :shifty:
BTW, I bolted it up and you're never getting it back!

But... I wants bling! You're right. And making a swing arm would be fun, no point doing anything logically here because it's a GN.
Righto! I'll start thinking about making a jig thing. :niceone:
Sommat like this but I don't think elliptical adjusters would look pretty on it http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/xschop/ZRX11swingarm.jpgPretty and very simple bit of gear eh?

Need more trellis, like this

http://www.silvatimber.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/r/trellis-diagonal-privacy-flat.jpg

[ducatilover]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I ran out of rep.

You pretty much got it covered though. Could branch out and do a wooden one.

[unstuck]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I ran out of rep.

You pretty much got it covered though. Could branch out and do a wooden one.

I bet your bike wooden go then.:facepalm:

[bogan]

Reckon you might get a bit board of it though.

[unstuck]

Reckon you might get a bit board of it though.

Be great for planking on too.:brick:

[Drew]

Sommat like this but I don't think elliptical adjusters would look pretty on it.

Pretty and very simple bit of gear eh?There is no ellipse on that swingarm anywhere...Just because I'm feeling pedantic;)


Anyhoo, have you considered just joining another stock swingarm to the bottom of the standard item? So it's a double tube thing like the Spondon frames of old. Could look cool, and will certainly cure any flex it has now. Shit, do it right, and you could be super cool and only have a shock on one side of it. Similar to a Ducati 'Paul smart'.

[ducatilover]

I bet your bike wooden go then.:facepalm:


Reckon you might get a bit board of it though.
I knew this would happen, knot unecpected at all!

There is no ellipse on that swingarm anywhere...Just because I'm feeling pedantic;) Fuck the drugs! Eccentric adjusters, or what ever the hell they're called lol



Anyhoo, have you considered just joining another stock swingarm to the bottom of the standard item? So it's a double tube thing like the Spondon frames of old. Could look cool, and will certainly cure any flex it has now. Shit, do it right, and you could be super cool and only have a shock on one side of it. Similar to a Ducati 'Paul smart'.
Yeah I'm thinking about twin tubes, because they're bad-ass. The Spondoon ones are bloody neat
I never even considered the single shock on one side, that'd be damn sweet... and clear up the space I wanted for my scrambler pipes :Punk:
Soooo, beefy twin tube, braced swinger and pivot tube would probably manage it eh?
I'm going to be gusseting the frame a little, here and there just because it was a bit too flexi as it was, and them pencil forks didn't help, so that'll probably mean it's tough enough?

Best idea yet, and it wasn't even mine :no:

The only other funny idea I had, was throw the center stand out and rock an underbike shock? I think they look mega cool. Bitches love shit like that too

[Drew]

I knew this would happen, knot unecpected at all!
Fuck the drugs! Eccentric adjusters, or what ever the hell they're called lol



Yeah I'm thinking about twin tubes, because they're bad-ass. The Spondoon ones are bloody neat
I never even considered the single shock on one side, that'd be damn sweet... and clear up the space I wanted for my scrambler pipes :Punk:
Soooo, beefy twin tube, braced swinger and pivot tube would probably manage it eh?
I'm going to be gusseting the frame a little, here and there just because it was a bit too flexi as it was, and them pencil forks didn't help, so that'll probably mean it's tough enough?

Best idea yet, and it wasn't even mine :no:

The only other funny idea I had, was throw the center stand out and rock an underbike shock? I think they look mega cool. Bitches love shit like that tooIf you want it scrambleresque, why limit your ground clearance?

But I am biased towards my own musings of course.

[ducatilover]

If you want it scrambleresque, why limit your ground clearance?

But I am biased towards my own musings of course.

:sweatdrop I just want the high rise pipes
Hmm, porbably isn't enough clearance to rock an under bike shock anyway.

Thinking of the normal-mono shock idea I had, would not look too pretty IMO, it'd clutter up the under seat area too much (only things under there will be reg/rec for airflow and the pod filter)

So, it's either stay twin shock, or turn my brain on and look at your single side shock idea.

Was also thinking for teh rear brake, I'll just get a shithouse single piston caliper and what not off an MX bike and mount it under the swinger. The spare ZZR rear brake I have is that spastic twin piston POS
Would use the original front caliper on the rear, but it's far too ugly and big looking.

[ducatilover]

I got stuff and things

NOS Honda Swingarm
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New throttle block http://smmotorco.com/images/100_7084.jpg


Switchgear http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqNHJBUE7)72HdrPBPBFM-2zeg~~60_35.JPG?set_id=8800005007

Got an oil cooler from an ST185 Celica GT4 gearbox (off a mate for some polishing of pipes and stuff)
Brass fittings for the oil lines.
Other misc shit.

Need to find a rear shock to start teh monoshock swap
Geoff is now in my workshop, but progress will be ghey because I am busy doing stuff and things, etcetera

[bogan]

Well the grips and switchgear is well fitted to the GN. Swingarm I'm not so sure but it is shiny, so I think we can let it slide :headbang:

[ducatilover]

Well the grips and switchgear is well fitted to the GN. Swingarm I'm not so sure but it is shiny, so I think we can let it slide :headbang:

Chur! Ditching the side mounted shocks will mean I can haz nicer pipes up the side.
No monoshock at this stage, too typical really. Going to be somewhat unorthodox with the rear suspension, so it's still twin shock, but not as we know it. :facepalm:

Swinger was a surprise, GN axle bushes slip straight in the the CRF pivot tubes, even use the CRF needle rollers.
Will make small spacers and that'll be that end sorted.
GN rim fits in sweet as. Will have the sprocket carrier lathed down a wee bit to get the offset on the sprocket just right. Spacers for the rim are piss easy to do too.
There's a mount on the RHS (now the swinger is upside down to have the shock mount up top) that just happens to be ideal for the drum brake torque arm thingymijig. :yes:

So, pretty easy swap all together.
Haven't got the time to spanner on it at the mo, have track/rally cars I'm prepping etc, but will get some pics when I have the shock mounts done

[ducatilover]

Shitty pics. It's getting there, slowly. 288823288824288825

[bogan]

Coming along nicely, brake lever is fucking massive init, passenger pegs also don't gel so good with the cleanliness.

Suspension looks interesting, how's that all gonna work?

[Drew]

Suspension looks interesting, how's that all gonna work?Well, the frame tubes are slowly gonna bend up, and the bike will become a low rider over time.

[bogan]

Well, the frame tubes are slowly gonna bend up, and the bike will become a low rider over time.

I was thinking more those shocks look like the standard twin shocks, so they will be well soft. Doubt they would apply enough force to bend the frame tubes before the rear tyre makes its way through that sweet tail hump thingo.

[Drew]

I was thinking more those shocks look like the standard twin shocks, so they will be well soft. Doubt they would apply enough force to bend the frame tubes before the rear tyre makes its way through that sweet tail hump thingo.

I'm pretty sure those gussetts (hehehe, gussett) that the good folk at Suzuki put at the normal shock mounting point, are somewhat important. Particularly when one considers that as you point out, a stiffer spring is required so more than normal force is being directed to the new mounting area.

[ducatilover]

I started on the top suspension mount today, got it tacked in place and it'll break and I'll die.


Sweetbix.

[unstuck]

I started on the top suspension mount today, got it tacked in place and it'll break and I'll die.


Sweetbix.

Good stuff, hurry it along.:2thumbsup

[ducatilover]

Good stuff, hurry it along.:2thumbsup

Chur bro!


Top mount is 25x80 box section welded across the frame, with 25x25 arms coming out 30mm forward, welded on and gussted. I'm not doing the welding, somebody who actually knows how is.

The rest of the bike will snap before this does. The frame is being gussted in a few places, it's incredibly weak.

I said many moons ao that the shocks were fucked and are getting replaced.

Bunch of fucking pussies.

[ducatilover]

Got teh suspsension mount sorted, will be welded in when the rest of the bike is ready for welding by my welder-guy.

Made up the top engine mount, will make the front one up then do the rear ones :niceone:
Am keeping an eye out for a set of twin shocks that actually work, unlike my unbelievably saggy shitters.

[ducatilover]

It looks like it'll be much easier to get a single shock set up properly on this in terms of spring rate, by easy is gay.

Still juggling up the cafe tail vs the flat scrambler style seat, leaning towards scrambler at the mo. With a bad-ass scrambler headlight guard and pipes. :love:
The stance is more scrambler than cafe now, so it makes sense... (convince me!)

Still hoping to find a kick start lever for it, I forgot the spline size but might be 23mm coarse? So if anyone has something suitable, please let me know.

[banditrider]

I think you need some more inspiration...

http://www.bikeexif.com/kawasaki-z-750
http://www.bikeexif.com/kedo-sr500-cafe-racer

[ducatilover]

:rockon: They're both bloody stunners!
Ol' Geoff is still getting bits laser cut up for mounts and suspension linkages (still have to finalise the linkage ratio, all depends on what shock I want to use)
Frame has all tags, brackets etc removed. Swingarm and rear wheel spacers are done, sprocket hub machined to fit and change sprocket offset. Engine position is finalised, finally. Took a few adjustments here and there, mainly to get the sprocket higher than the pivot, but will still need a chain roller :facepalm: carb to frame clearance is very tight at the top, but I will sort that.
Will gusset the frame a wee bit too once I get some opinions on where to fit them

I really fail at updates!

[ducatilover]

Motor is mounted in :yes:
Got a few bits and bobs coming, got some clip ons, foot pegs (I'm going to rear set it) and almost about to buy this tank tail, excuse my outrageously shite MS Paint skills. 297442
Got a kick start lever coming.
Will have to make something up for the gearshift I suppose as a DR is not a remote shifter/linkage set up, which should be rather straight forward
Wiring needs to be done, which is slam some plugs on it and wrap it, uber super simple loom.
Once I have the tail I will be able to figure out where the battery is going and what I am using

I also got that Kawasaki shock off GSW, so, we shall see it I can squeeze that in there (should be able to, same length as my ZX6/ZZR thing, which can fit).


And, me being me will change my mind again and turn it in to a chopper and suck penis for the rest of my life.

[ducatilover]

I made an uber rat-cafe tail for teh luls. Needed to practise my tig, so what better than 1.2mm panel steel to .75mm? I am not a very good tigger :laugh: not at all.
But, I got the look I wanted. Made it up, then cut some patches out and zapped 'em in for the munted and worn out look.
Will weather it up a bit too.
I do not care for that tank much at all, would really like something that isn't so tall and square. (if anyone has something, let me know)
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Going to get some moar ride height in to the rear too as it looks retarded like it is
I don't know if I mentioned earlier, but I got a set of clip on bars for it, they're quite neat, but the bars need shortening by around 50mm
I'll whip the forks out and shorten them so they don't stick out the clamps too.

[ducatilover]

Made up some shock extenders today so it has actual ride height now.

[ducatilover]

Pics with ride height sorted out.
Also welded in the lower engine mounts and continued de-tagging the frame

[mossy1200]

I might be wanting that tail.

[ducatilover]

I like the look of that project!
You'll have to make your own tail though, this is my baby

[banditrider]

Inspiration: http://www.bikeexif.com/yamaha-xv-750

[ducatilover]

Wow! That is incredibly tasty

[banditrider]

Wow! That is incredibly tasty

I thought so too. Although I'd still like a seat so I could ride it.

[ducatilover]

I thought so too. Although I'd still like a seat so I could ride it. Having a seat is usually a good feature, so I am told

[ducatilover]

309130309131309132309133309134 So I did some things this week. Been off work a fair bit and had an eye op two weeks ago, moved house blah blah rusty.

[mossy1200]

Don't burn your leg on the exhaust outlets.

[ducatilover]

I won't have a choice once that zorst is done. :niceone:

[ducatilover]

Scored myself a 17 off a DR250 for free yesterday :2thumbsup which means moar tyre choice. Just need one for the front and I'll be away giggling :banana:

[ducatilover]

Been faffing around a wee bit.

Motor is built, completely fresh.
Made a neutral sender that won't fall apart, or fall out in typical DR fashion.
Been shaping up the seat foam, like a boss.
Sorted a throttle cable, cable mount etc, so that all works.
Broke the accel pump cam on the flatslide, like a cunt. So have to order a new one of 'em.
Been trying to sort out the gear shift linkage set up, though I had it right tonight but had too much flex in the link rod. But it is only a 5mm rod... so will go up to 6 and see what happens
Have yet to strip the rear wheel and this DR wheel and lace them together. Not really a job I'm looking forward to :wacko:

[Gonzo TR1]

Crazy shit man ! just read 41pages...do you still have this beast ?... Finished ?... or rideable ? I have a modded SR500 (560) Its a hoot to ride, no idea of Hp, somewhere in the 40's I'm guessing Big singles are fun. (not the girls, tho never say never...)