Can you.....

[placidfemme]

Can you catch the cold/flu when no-one you know has been sick?

I've already had the cold/flu twice this year and it's starting again today and I havn't been around anyone in the last 2 weeks who's been sick... whats with that?

*might be the first one to start the next super virus*

[MSTRS]

Can you catch the cold/flu when no-one you know has been sick?


Only if you run reeaallly fast & use an approved catchything :devil2:

[placidfemme]

:( *can't run fast*

But I can ride... fastish slow... can I use my balaclava as a catchything?

[crashe]

Try riding your bike to work every day and then you wont catch the flu...
:rofl: :rofl:

and best you didnt pass it onto me today..... :whistle:
especially after I even let you sit on my bike too. :whistle:

[placidfemme]

It sucks... this person that Sam and I are meeting for dinner and a movie... well last time we went to meet this person... I got sick that same day... and again no-one I knew was sick... maybe its an omen...

[Paul in NZ]

It sucks... this person that Sam and I are meeting for dinner and a movie... well last time we went to meet this person... I got sick that same day... and again no-one I knew was sick... maybe its an omen...

If you were sick in a forest and no one knew you were sick would you still make a sound? Hang on, wrong thread...

[Grizz]

If you were sick in a forest and no one knew you were sick would you still make a sound? Hang on, wrong thread...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[crashe]

How To Avoid The Flu

Eat right! Make sure you get your daily dose of fruits and veggies.
Take your vitamins and bump up your vitamin C.
Get plenty of exercise because exercise helps build your immune system.
Walk for at least an hour a day, go for a swim,
take the stairs instead of the elevator, etc.
Wash your hands often. If you can't wash them,
keep a bottle of antibacterial stuff around.
Get lots of fresh air. Open windows whenever possible.
Get plenty of rest.

Try to eliminate as much stress from your life as you can.

OR Take the doctor's surgery approach.
Think about it...
When you go for a shot, what do they do first?

Clean your arm with alcohol.
Why?

Because alcohol kills germs.

So......


I walk to the bottle store. (exercise)
I put lemon in my Rum and Coke..(fruit)
Celery in my Bloody Mary (veggies)
Drink outdoors on the patio..(fresh air)
Get drunk, tell jokes, laugh..(eliminate stress)
Then pass out. (rest)


The way I see it...

If you keep your alcohol levels up,

flu germs can't get you!!!!



My grandmother always said, "A shot in the glass is better than one in the ass!"

[placidfemme]

If you were sick in a forest and no one knew you were sick would you still make a sound? Hang on, wrong thread...

lol... and the answer is.... ........................ <no sound lol

[placidfemme]

How To Avoid The Flu

Eat right! Make sure you get your daily dose of fruits and veggies.
Take your vitamins and bump up your vitamin C.
Get plenty of exercise because exercise helps build your immune system.
Walk for at least an hour a day, go for a swim,
take the stairs instead of the elevator, etc.
Wash your hands often. If you can't wash them,
keep a bottle of antibacterial stuff around.
Get lots of fresh air. Open windows whenever possible.
Get plenty of rest.

Try to eliminate as much stress from your life as you can.

OR Take the doctor's surgery approach.
Think about it...
When you go for a shot, what do they do first?

Clean your arm with alcohol.
Why?

Because alcohol kills germs.

So......


I walk to the bottle store. (exercise)
I put lemon in my Rum and Coke..(fruit)
Celery in my Bloody Mary (veggies)
Drink outdoors on the patio..(fresh air)
Get drunk, tell jokes, laugh..(eliminate stress)
Then pass out. (rest)


The way I see it...

If you keep your alcohol levels up,

flu germs can't get you!!!!



My grandmother always said, "A shot in the glass is better than one in the ass!"


lol thats good :)

*finds some alcohol*

[Flyingpony]

Can you catch the cold/flu when no-one you know has been sick?

I've already had the cold/flu twice this year and it's starting again today and I havn't been around anyone in the last 2 weeks who's been sick... whats with that?

*might be the first one to start the next super virus*
As you're just on the start of getting the flu, now is the time to become a fish and drink heaps of water and attempt to flush it out of your body before you really do get the flu and be stuck with it for the next two-three weeks.
This works most of the time for me. Try it.
Eat heaps of fruit and vegetables too and follow what 'crashe' wrote.

[placidfemme]

Thank you :)

*is drinking water now instead of my usual V*

[oldfart]

Can you catch the cold/flu when no-one you know has been sick?

I've already had the cold/flu twice this year and it's starting again today and I havn't been around anyone in the last 2 weeks who's been sick... whats with that?

*might be the first one to start the next super virus*

My understanding is that a person is at the contagious stage when they aren't displaying any symptoms, ie once you've got wheezes & sneezes your not likely to pass it on :puke: :no: :cold: :oi-grr: :puke:

[White trash]

P/Femme, a cold and the "flu" are two totaly different ailments.

Whatchagot?

[erik]

My understanding is that a person is at the contagious stage when they aren't displaying any symptoms, ie once you've got wheezes & sneezes your not likely to pass it on :puke: :no: :cold: :oi-grr: :puke:
I thought coughing and sneezing were two of the ways a cold/flu could be passed on.

I think I heard some people can be a carrier for the cold virus and not actually get sick from it while others will get sick, so you could catch it from someone that was healthy.

[raster]

Wheire died dat botle go, Hick!
SSooryuy Unnder Meedicationnnnnnnnnnnn Hiclk!

[myvice]

Go for a good long run, drink LOTS of water on the way and sweat it out!
This works, but you want to die if you’re out of shape (like me)
So try this:
Long hot bath, curl up on the couch with a blanket and an Irish Coffee or a hot chocolate, either with a crap book or a crap movie on TV.
It won’t cure you, but it makes my other 1/2 feel better so it works on some level!
I just sleep. (or run if I have to be well soon, like in 12 hours time)

[Jeremy]

The easiest way to catch a cold/flu is to touch a door knob, then either eat food or wipe your eye. If someone has sneezed and, covered their mouth then touched that door knob before you your pretty much guaranteed to get it.

Since both the cold and flu are caused by viruses alcohol isn't going to effect it, alcohol kills bacteria. UV Light kills viruses (another reason why we hang clothes outside to dry).

[myvice]

QUOTE Since both the cold and flu are caused by viruses alcohol isn't going to effect it, alcohol kills bacteria. UV Light kills viruses (another reason why we hang clothes outside to dry).QUOTE

Yes, but you cant drink UV light can you?
:drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup:

[raster]

No, I've never been drunk from UV light. :no:

[Beemer]

My dearly beloved works in retail and has had two really bad colds in the past two months. I work from home, but have to go shopping for food and alcohol (well, not really - we still have heaps left over from the wedding!) and of course the germs can live on money and door handles and just about everything you can think of. And he gives me his germs when he comes home too!

The day before we flew to Australia for New Year I was coughed on by this woman in Coastlands who made NO attempt to cover her mouth - guess what? Within days I had a raging cold, no fun in 30C-plus temperatures. Cow, I'll be looking for her next time I go there...

Hot lemon drinks with a shot of brandy in them, plenty of fluids (chicken soup may not actually do anything but it tastes good!) and plenty of rest.

[Pixie]

How To Avoid The Flu

Eat right! Make sure you get your daily dose of fruits and veggies.
Take your vitamins and bump up your vitamin C.
Get plenty of exercise because exercise helps build your immune system.
Walk for at least an hour a day, go for a swim,
take the stairs instead of the elevator, etc.
Wash your hands often. If you can't wash them,
keep a bottle of antibacterial stuff around.
Get lots of fresh air. Open windows whenever possible.
Get plenty of rest.

Try to eliminate as much stress from your life as you can.

OR Take the doctor's surgery approach.
Think about it...
When you go for a shot, what do they do first?

Clean your arm with alcohol.
Why?

Because alcohol kills germs.

So......


I walk to the bottle store. (exercise)
I put lemon in my Rum and Coke..(fruit)
Celery in my Bloody Mary (veggies)
Drink outdoors on the patio..(fresh air)
Get drunk, tell jokes, laugh..(eliminate stress)
Then pass out. (rest)


The way I see it...

If you keep your alcohol levels up,

flu germs can't get you!!!!



My grandmother always said, "A shot in the glass is better than one in the ass!"
A few corrections, humbly proffered:

Exercise can severely depress the immune system,I know of one young woman who thought that she would beat the flu through heavy exercise,the resultant depression of her immune system allowed the virus to attack her heart valves
and the result was that she ended up with a transplant!
There is a reason why rest has always been recommended.

Vitamin C has failed to show any beneficial effects regarding immunity to viruses.

Chicken soup,on the other hand has shown beneficial results on recovery times -the mechanism is not known.

Rhinoviruses thrive in temperatures slightly below human body temp,that is why they infect the airways,where the outside air cools the membranes.If you can raise the temperature of these membranes,the viruses tend to die.
One researcher found that closing the nose with a swimmers clamp sped recovery.


Most people really have a cold, when they think they have the flu.If you don't have body aches,pain when you move your eyes etc it's probably just a cold.
The most efficient way that rhinoviruses get transmitted is by the hands directly to the mucosa (eyes nose mouth) so washing your hands helps.And you can get it by touching your eyes etc after handling something an infected person has touched.
So if you can keep your hands away from your face it makes it hard for the infection to occur.
As for being sneezed on,it only causes infection if the sneezer is within 3 feet of the sneezee.

[Mooch]

A few corrections, humbly proffered:

Chicken soup,on the other hand has shown beneficial results on recovery times -the mechanism is not known.



Could that be because of all the antibiotics the chickens are fed ?

[placidfemme]

P/Femme, a cold and the "flu" are two totaly different ailments.

Whatchagot?

I dunno... whats the difference?

Symptoms: Runny nose with yucky boogers... tickle in the throat, sneezing, coughing, headache

[placidfemme]

Could that be because of all the antibiotics the chickens are fed ?

thats a scary thought

[placidfemme]

It sucks being sick... On the way to work this morning on the bus :(:( riding with a runny nose and sneezing sucks... the weather outside is perfect... no wind... no clouds... lotsa sun... and I'm sick :( blah its not fair :(

[erik]

A few corrections, humbly proffered:

Exercise can severely depress the immune system,I know of one young woman who thought that she would beat the flu through heavy exercise,the resultant depression of her immune system allowed the virus to attack her heart valves
and the result was that she ended up with a transplant!
There is a reason why rest has always been recommended.

Vitamin C has failed to show any beneficial effects regarding immunity to viruses.

Chicken soup,on the other hand has shown beneficial results on recovery times -the mechanism is not known.

Rhinoviruses thrive in temperatures slightly below human body temp,that is why they infect the airways,where the outside air cools the membranes.If you can raise the temperature of these membranes,the viruses tend to die.
One researcher found that closing the nose with a swimmers clamp sped recovery.


Most people really have a cold, when they think they have the flu.If you don't have body aches,pain when you move your eyes etc it's probably just a cold.
The most efficient way that rhinoviruses get transmitted is by the hands directly to the mucosa (eyes nose mouth) so washing your hands helps.And you can get it by touching your eyes etc after handling something an infected person has touched.
So if you can keep your hands away from your face it makes it hard for the infection to occur.
As for being sneezed on,it only causes infection if the sneezer is within 3 feet of the sneezee.


Cool! Where'd all that info come from?

[Pixie]

Cool! Where'd all that info come from?
My brain....seems it was mixed up with a vacuum cleaner when it was in the design stage.

[Pixie]

Could that be because of all the antibiotics the chickens are fed ?
I don't think so.The chicken soup thing is very old and predates antibiotics.
And as you all should know....Antibiotics don't help viral infections.

[MSTRS]

I dunno... whats the difference?

Symptoms: Runny nose with yucky boogers... tickle in the throat, sneezing, coughing, headache
You have a cold.
The 'common' cold is caused by a virus, of which there are some 150+ permutations. You cannot catch the same one twice, but symptoms are much the same for each, because that is the body's way of dealing with it.
The flu (influenza) is a much more serious ailment. It can kill. Usually associated with violent headaches, high temperatures, muscle pain & general weakness. If you ever have the 'flu, you will know the difference.

[placidfemme]

oh ok... so I have a cold...

I didn't know there were over 150 different strands of the cold... I usually get the cold twice a year, so by the time I'm 75 I'll be sweet yea?

[MSTRS]

Maybe.....

[James Deuce]

oh ok... so I have a cold...

I didn't know there were over 150 different strands of the cold... I usually get the cold twice a year, so by the time I'm 75 I'll be sweet yea?

They will have changed by then. You'll be back to square one. Infection vectors for viruses and bacteria are manifold. You can catch them just about anywhere, but if your immune system (as everyone else has said) is in good shape you'll be fine. However if everybody's immune system is in great shape, viruses in particular just mutatae. Viruses are practically immortal in their dormant state too, and can exist in huge extremes of pressure, temperature, and host deprivation.

[placidfemme]

lol we as humans have screwed ourselves... I was watching scrubs the other night... it was a repeat I think... and the cocky Dr said to the dorky Dr something about old people living until they're 80+ because Dr's can help them stay alive that long... because that is their job... but whats the point... they live until 80+ but all wish they had died at 50+...

makes sense...

*doesn't wanna be old and dependant on others*

[yungatart]

My advice for avoiding the nasty germy germs is smoke too much, drink too much coffee and alcohol, and exercise only if you can't avoid it! Works for me - I have had the flu twice in my life and in the last 10 years only three colds. Seems if you live an unhealthy life style, the nasties don't want to know you!

[placidfemme]

lol I do live unhealthy... I thought that was why I get sick... not enough fruit and vege's... too much pizza and V

[Paul in NZ]

Fuggit - Now I have it! Argh!

[Devil]

Can you catch the cold/flu when no-one you know has been sick?
...and in answer to your original question, think about it this way.
If you could only catch it from someone, it wouldn't exist. how would the first person get it?

Re: Exercise and the immune system.

Regular exercise and a balanced diet are the main things that help build the immune system, along with a healthy heart and lungs.

Note: Putting yourself under regular, strenuous, almost to the point of failure type exercise leaves the body trying to build back its energy reserves, repairing muscles etcetera, leaving little energy for the immune system. This is of course when you are the most susceptible to catching even the most minor of virii.
If you intend on doing the above, this is where you need to maintain a healthy diet, keep yourself warm (instead of having your body try and maintain the correct temp) and stay the hell away from other sick people!

[yungatart]

lol I do live unhealthy... I thought that was why I get sick... not enough fruit and vege's... too much pizza and V
You should know to stay away from those "letter " things- "V" "P" etc- theyll kill ya- didn't you read your other recent thread??? Duh?

[Pixie]

Go for a good long run, drink LOTS of water on the way and sweat it out!
This works, but you want to die if you’re out of shape (like me)
So try this:
Long hot bath, curl up on the couch with a blanket and an Irish Coffee or a hot chocolate, either with a crap book or a crap movie on TV.
It won’t cure you, but it makes my other 1/2 feel better so it works on some level!
I just sleep. (or run if I have to be well soon, like in 12 hours time)
You obviously don't read the posts of those wiser than yourself.
Oh well,the gene pool may benefit. :devil2:

[Pixie]

...and in answer to your original question, think about it this way.
If you could only catch it from someone, it wouldn't exist. how would the first person get it?



!
The same way the first human who got HIV was infected,you know, the one who fucked the Green Monkey? :rofl:

[Pixie]

...and in answer to your original question, think about it this way.
If you could only catch it from someone, it wouldn't exist. how would the first person get it?

Re: Exercise and the immune system.

Regular exercise and a balanced diet are the main things that help build the immune system, along with a healthy heart and lungs.

Note: Putting yourself under regular, strenuous, almost to the point of failure type exercise leaves the body trying to build back its energy reserves, repairing muscles etcetera, leaving little energy for the immune system. This is of course when you are the most susceptible to catching even the most minor of virii.
If you intend on doing the above, this is where you need to maintain a healthy diet, keep yourself warm (instead of having your body try and maintain the correct temp) and stay the hell away from other sick people!
The main way the immune system is developed is by exposure to threats.This is why todays' kids are so feeble,you know the ones,those that live a germ free existence because their mothers believe the bullshit the ads tell them about cleanliness and are not allowed to play in the garden and eat dirt.
Humans and their ancestors evolved living in filth and our immune systems do not function correctly unless they are operating in the environment to which they are designed to deal with.
The latest research is indicating that a digestive system that does not contain some worms ,for instance, is not going to be as healthy as it could be.

[myvice]

You obviously don't read the posts of those wiser than yourself.
Oh well,the gene pool may benefit. :devil2:
Cant read!

[James Deuce]

Cant read!

That would be Kant with a K, and I like to read his stuff. Wasn't aware it was a verb though. ;)

[enigma51]

Can you catch the cold/flu when no-one you know has been sick?

I've already had the cold/flu twice this year and it's starting again today and I havn't been around anyone in the last 2 weeks who's been sick... whats with that?

*might be the first one to start the next super virus*

Believe it or not but you can pick up the flu from a door handle that was touched by someone that has the flu. Plus to make everyone happy a flu viruses love aircons. :puke:

[unhingedlizard]

lol I do live unhealthy... I thought that was why I get sick... not enough fruit and vege's... too much pizza and V

I love V, even got a can on my bike...its true, ask viffer (i think)

aid the problem with medical advances adding years to your life is it always adds them on the end.

[Ixion]

I love V, even got a can on my bike...its true, ask viffer (i think)

aid the problem with medical advances adding years to your life is it always adds them on the end.

Meh. I carry THREE cans of V - one each green , silver, and black flavours. And a bottle of water, and a bottle of juice, and a tin of peanuts, and some chocolate bars, and a can of beer. Fills the left hand glovebox on the beammer

[Pixie]

That would be Kant with a K, and I like to read his stuff. Wasn't aware it was a verb though. ;)
No, it was just a lot of cant

[placidfemme]

Meh. I carry THREE cans of V - one each green , silver, and black flavours. And a bottle of water, and a bottle of juice, and a tin of peanuts, and some chocolate bars, and a can of beer. Fills the left hand glovebox on the beammer

lol thats keen!

*used to drink up to 5 V's a day... then got sick (the first time this year), then cut my V's down to 2 day... and now that I'm sick again I'm not drinking any because the cold makes them taste crap... and I don't want to waste them for when I'm better lol (how's that for an addiction).

My cold has now got to the point where I can't even smoke :( (Proberly a good thing) cause smoking sends me into a coughing fit that kills my lungs and my throat :(

Hopefully this is the last stage.... already had the sneezes, runny nose, blocked cinuses (sp) and light headedness arrggg...

*drinking a LOT of water*

[crashe]

Gee thanks for sharing all that (runny nose etc) info with us... :rofl: :rofl:

Ummmm drinking 5 cans of "V" a day... is miles too much.

I believe that one is only supposed to drink a small amount of it each day...
but 5 is over the limit. You must be as high as a kite....

You are drinking heaps of water as well in between the cans of "V" aren't you?

[Sniper]

You have a low white blood cell count.

[placidfemme]

Why do I have a low white blood cell count?

And um... no when I drink V I only drink V.... and sometimes coke... and sometimes... no thats it...

But when I'm sick I drink heaps of water... But lately I've been drinking more water than V because my Gran's been lecturing me about it...

*listens to my granny* lol