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daveo
18th May 2012, 19:38
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-476845847.htmhttp://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-476845847.htm
seen a few all setup for racing overseas and they look pretty trick, and Im sure you could pick up a dropped on for abit cheaper
any reason they wouldnt make a decent bucket?
Pumba
18th May 2012, 19:45
None racing that I am aware of. I am sure one will turn up at some stage though
daveo
18th May 2012, 19:53
or would it be better to start with the 125 and bore it out?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=476850646&open_homes=®ion=&district=
Yow Ling
18th May 2012, 19:57
17 ps according to the official website, so thats kinda on par with FXRs
The YZF-R1 and YZF-R6 are equipped with under cowls that are based on the image of a diffuser, to give them the best form for aero-management. These are not cowls for simply enclosing the engine, but forms composed of blade surfaces that actively control airflow. This spirit has been directly inherited by the YZF-R15 version 2.0.
“Harmony between rider and machine.” YAMAHA's Human Technology involves studying the form of the motorcycle actually in motion with the rider on it. The R series is the embodiment of 1) a wide frontal space that protects the rider, 2) an easy to ride seating area that gives riders the freedom of movement and allows them to steer effectively, 3) the glamorous tail treatment that takes into account the management of airflow behind the rider, and 4) a sensual racing form that brings all 3 of these elements together in a harmonious package. These characteristics have been splendidly reproduced in the YZF-R15 version 2.0.
The YZF-R15 version 2.0 is a new model that has been developed under the concept of a “Graded Up R15.” While maintaining the proven ease of handling of the existing R15, the R15 version 2.0 boasts of spruced up looks and better performance in circuit riding. The design elements are borrowed from the supersport model YZF-R1 that is adapted from YZR-M1 MotoGP race machine.
The YZF-R15 version 2.0 – is a 150cc liquid-cooled 4-stroke fuel injected bike. The R15 version 2.0 has undergone changes as compared to the present YZF-R15 in the specs of the Engine Control unit (ECU), drivetrain unit, a long aluminum swing arm, wider front and rear tires (radial tire for the rear), split seat, LED taillights and new-design middle cowl & tail cowl.
They sure look purdy, and a bit pricey compared to what we used to, then again the same thing was said about CBR150's a few years ago.
The YZF-R15 version 2.0 is a new model that has been developed under the concept of a “Graded Up R15.” While maintaining the proven ease of handling of the existing R15, the R15 version 2.0 boasts of spruced up looks and better performance in circuit riding. The design elements are borrowed from the supersport model YZF-R1 that is adapted from YZR-M1 MotoGP race machine.
What a load of marketing waffle. The R15 is made for the Indian market, budget build quality, low reving, single cam, designed to survive enormous pot holes and insane traffic. (The bikes had these huge crash bars that looked like they could come in handy for pushing aside back markers).
There were a few latest model Honda CBR250 getting around the cities, they cost a mere $4kNZ new about the same as the cost of a small car (Tata Nano). They also had a sporty Honda 100 about to be relaeased that was going to cost $1kNZ brand new. Was thinking of getting the mother in law to stick a few in a container when she next comes out.
Rick 52
18th May 2012, 20:43
or would it be better to start with the 125 and bore it out?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=476850646&open_homes=®ion=&district=
I think they have wide wheels and much better suspension on the 125, should make a good bucket !
daveo
18th May 2012, 21:25
Cheers boys will keep a eye out for a cheap dropped 125
One of the Thai or Indonesian guys on the FXR froums had something to say about the yams as a base for a race bike, seems they do a bit of drag racing. His opinion was to stick with the FXR as a better option. He may well be wrong though.
crazy man
18th May 2012, 21:42
for me buying a new or near new bike is not what( buckets )is about! A bike should be 10 years min old
Buddha#81
18th May 2012, 21:58
for me buying a new or near new bike is not what( buckets )is about! A bike should be 10 years min old
Why is that, the best thing that happened to Chch bucket racing was Al Hoogie and Nick Cain bringing their CBR150's back from Aussie, they were the current model. The standard of bike presentation and riding has moved on massively since.
diesel pig
18th May 2012, 22:04
The Bore & Stroke is 57 x 58.5 ... That's right it's a longstroke motor! and the last person who thought a longstroke engine was the go for a race bike was "Pa" Norton.
for me buying a new or near new bike is not what( buckets )is about! A bike should be 10 years min old
I sort of know what you mean, however it is bucket racing, not bucket riding
Buckets4Me
19th May 2012, 15:04
for me buying a new or near new bike is not what( buckets )is about! A bike should be 10 years min old
thats what they said about the RG50.
then the FXR150
now the yamaha
get with the times Grandad ! :rolleyes:
crazy man
19th May 2012, 17:29
thats what they said about the RG50.
then the FXR150
now the yamaha
get with the times Grandad ! :rolleyes:at least the fxr was 10 year old but if you dont want to learn anything in life just buy in new bike buy the race kit get somone to bolt it on and you just ride it :clap:
Buddha#81
19th May 2012, 20:18
at least the fxr was 10 year old but if you dont want to learn anything in life just buy in new bike buy the race kit get somone to bolt it on and you just ride it :clap:
I dont think its about learning, people are finding they have less disposable time, let alone the acess to a workshop or the tools required to modify and tune engines and chassis. Buying a new(ish) bike and bolting on some go fast parts apeals to some and fits others lifestyles........as long as they get out there and enjoy, who cares how :niceone:
Timber020
19th May 2012, 23:10
17 ps according to the official website, so thats kinda on par with FXRs
The R6 was officially doing 17,500 rpm, only it wasnt.
crazy man
20th May 2012, 05:33
I dont think its about learning, people are finding they have less disposable time, let alone the acess to a workshop or the tools required to modify and tune engines and chassis. Buying a new(ish) bike and bolting on some go fast parts apeals to some and fits others lifestyles........as long as they get out there and enjoy, who cares how :niceone:well l guess it is f4 and f5 not bucket racing anymore
It's still buckets but things have moved on.
People had the same to of comments to make about enduros when I was riding those.
"back in my day you used to ride your bike to the forest, take the lights off, then race, then only five out of the hundred and seventy starters would finish"
Of course back then a bike cost three weeks wages not three months and the sport was full of young guys who could afford to not turn up at work on Monday.
Any sort of Motorsport now, including buckets, which is the cheapest and most enjoyable I've found, has become way less affordable. Not sure if there is anyone in the country competing that's in a good old blue collar, minimum wage job but I doubt it.
Yow Ling
20th May 2012, 09:03
at least the fxr was 10 year old but if you dont want to learn anything in life just buy in new bike buy the race kit get somone to bolt it on and you just ride it :clap:
Some people would need to download an app to fit a sparkplug and still crossthread it
Some people would need to download an app to fit a sparkplug and still crossthread it Yeah......me :facepalm:
Buckets4Me
20th May 2012, 11:19
at least the fxr was 10 year old but if you dont want to learn anything in life just buy in new bike buy the race kit get somone to bolt it on and you just ride it :clap:
sounds like a good idear would have saved me a lot of time and money :facepalm:
Buckets4Me
20th May 2012, 11:22
It's still buckets but things have moved on. Not sure if there is anyone in the country competing that's in a good old blue collar, minimum wage job but I doubt it.
what do you mean?
I get paid shit but still have a faster bike than you
and it's more than 10 years old
then again when did I last race (planning on doing the north island rounds this year)
what do you mean?
I get paid shit but still have a faster bike than you
and it's more than 10 years old
then again when did I last race (planning on doing the north island rounds this year)
I was going to say stop talking and bring it to the track but you have covered that.
codgyoleracer
20th May 2012, 21:30
for me buying a new or near new bike is not what( buckets )is about! A bike should be 10 years min old
I wondered why you had all that old crap parked in your shed.......... :-)
Muzzab
20th May 2012, 23:07
Yeah......me :facepalm:
You, fark I thought he was aiming at me :laugh:
F5 Dave
21st May 2012, 10:11
When I started there was a sort of a +7yr old rumour, then all these whipper-snappers started turning up with RG50s. -heck they were $1700 & I couldn't afford that, my MB50 was $250. But they were good for the sport & I bought one when they got to $400. Actually my first one was $450 but that was my roadbike. FXRs were obviously next & they were new when the first one showed up at buckets. So be it.
4k is a bit of a roast thought. Oh well, I'll still be racing my 26 year old RG50, - 'course they were old stock at the time dumped in NZ & were released at the same time as the RG250 Gammas. Heck almost pre-82 eligible.:laugh:
crazy man
21st May 2012, 16:32
I wondered why you had all that old crap parked in your shed.......... :-)you should buy a new bucket then l will wait and see how quick people agree with me ;-)
Yow Ling
21st May 2012, 17:26
you should buy a new bucket then l will wait and see how quick people agree with me ;-)isn't a gpr150 a brand new bucket, probably the same price as a Phillips k9 tv back in 1976
codgyoleracer
21st May 2012, 17:52
you should buy a new bucket then l will wait and see how quick people agree with me ;-)
Dont tempt me, - some of the best racing i have had has been in buckets, but my free & friendly engineer has retired and i wouldnt dare enter the hectic development class that is buckets without him.........
crazy man
21st May 2012, 17:57
isn't a gpr150 a brand new bucket, probably the same price as a Phillips k9 tv back in 1976its 6 months old now ! old tech stuff need a new one
crazy man
21st May 2012, 18:01
Dont tempt me, - some of the best racing i have had has been in buckets, but my free & friendly engineer has retired and i wouldnt dare enter the hectic development class that is buckets without him.........l think that engineer is just tired(-; l did have some real good fun in the weekend think its what i need for a boost
mossy1200
21st May 2012, 18:12
Dont tempt me, - some of the best racing i have had has been in buckets, but my free & friendly engineer has retired and i wouldnt dare enter the hectic development class that is buckets without him.........
Just leave me alone ok Glen. You wouldnt like buckets at all.
avgas
21st May 2012, 19:13
isn't a gpr150 a brand new bucket, probably the same price as a Phillips k9 tv back in 1976
Seems that
"Engine to not be based off a race bike"
rule is getting a bit fuzzy.
Clivoris
21st May 2012, 19:39
Dont tempt me, - some of the best racing i have had has been in buckets, but my free & friendly engineer has retired and i wouldnt dare enter the hectic development class that is buckets without him.........
:laugh:
I've got one you can use. Wouldn't even need to change the number:scooter:
Seems that
"Engine to not be based off a race bike"
rule is getting a bit fuzzy.
?????? puzzling comment; given its a FXR wrapped in homemade frame making it a GPR150?????
Nothing really fuzzy about that is there?
Isn't that bucket racing???
crazy man
21st May 2012, 20:14
Just leave me alone ok Glen. You wouldnt like buckets at all.you could get him back:innocent:
crazy man
21st May 2012, 20:31
?????? puzzling comment; given its a FXR wrapped in homemade frame making it a GPR150?????
Nothing really fuzzy about that is there?
:scooter:
Isn't that bucket racing??? must be race engine now its in a race frame lol...band all fxr engines thats how a 2 stroke will win
bucketracer
21st May 2012, 21:13
As I heard it and subject to offical confirmation.
The tide might be turning.
2-Strokes :first::second::third: in the points racing at Mt Welly yesterday, and about time ..... :laugh:
The Dominic Howe was won by Dave M riding an MB100 powered RS50 prepaired by Speedpro with a 25hp 80cc stroker runner up.
And F5 was 2-Strokes 1-2 all day long.
...ban all fxr engines that's how a 2 stroke will win
Hmmm that idea might be a bit late.
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2012, 21:39
Just leave me alone ok Glen. You wouldnt like buckets at all.
So THATS where you've been hiding :-)
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2012, 21:46
:laugh:
I've got one you can use. Wouldn't even need to change the number:scooter:
Sounds great Clive, - especially as i find the numbers are one of the greatest challenges to get "just right" when buidling a race bike....... :-)
mossy1200
23rd May 2012, 21:50
So THATS where you've been hiding :-)
I prefer lurking so far. I may need send my motor to Martin Peck for some ponies if your going to play the game. Wonder if he can find 40hp from a xl motor LOL.
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2012, 21:53
I prefer lurking so far. I may need send my motor to Martin Peck for some ponies if your going to play the game. Wonder if he can find 40hp from a xl motor LOL.
Ah Ha,- i see that you had some paint still left in those cans from the Fizzer
mossy1200
23rd May 2012, 22:19
Ah Ha,- i see that you had some paint still left in those cans from the Fizzer
No. Its just coincedence. It hasnt even got to me yet. Looks like SCA like me trailer and wets front was. Ill sand them back till I have removed 2mm of ally thickness to lighten the wheels up perhaps???????
I still have some of the trick paint from the FZR in the garage should I paint it up all nice?
Look what you made me do to the last paint job the first time we raced. My painter wanted to divorce me.
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2012, 22:28
No. Its just coincedence. It hasnt even got to me yet. Looks like SCA like me trailer and wets front was. Ill sand them back till I have removed 2mm of ally thickness to lighten the wheels up perhaps???????
I still have some of the trick paint from the FZR in the garage should I paint it up all nice?
Look what you made me do to the last paint job the first time we raced. My painter wanted to divorce me.
Dont worry, in buckets its obligatory to throw it down the road at least once a day i am told..........., Head to bunnings a buy plenty of that baby blue colour :-)
mossy1200
23rd May 2012, 22:38
Dont worry, in buckets its obligatory to throw it down the road at least once a day i am told..........., Head to bunnings a buy plenty of that baby blue colour :-)
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/complete-engines/auction-478279269.htm
Thats you sorted Glen. Man up and buy this one and if your not happy with the Steering Head angle bend the front forks to suit. This can be done by riding into the back of your garage until your happy with the result.
crazy man
24th May 2012, 18:24
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/complete-engines/auction-478279269.htm
Thats you sorted Glen. Man up and buy this one and if your not happy with the Steering Head angle bend the front forks to suit. This can be done by riding into the back of your garage until your happy with the result.he would win to easy on that l think a nifty 50 would be better:lol:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/complete-engines/auction-478279269.htm
Thats you sorted Glen. Man up and buy this one and if your not happy with the Steering Head angle bend the front forks to suit. This can be done by riding into the back of your garage until your happy with the result.
Bayden beat me fair and square on one of those. I was on my current bike but with less HP. While it was quite shameful for me it really did show his riding talent.
codgyoleracer
24th May 2012, 21:31
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/complete-engines/auction-478279269.htm
Thats you sorted Glen. Man up and buy this one and if your not happy with the Steering Head angle bend the front forks to suit. This can be done by riding into the back of your garage until your happy with the result.
Ahhh memories. this was the first bike i ever owned, - it shat itself cos i knew nothing about 2 stroke oil.........
mossy1200
24th May 2012, 21:38
Ahhh memories. this was the first bike i ever owned, - it shat itself cos i knew nothing about 2 stroke oil.........
First bike you ever owned. I would have thought you had been riding from a young age. :banana:
codgyoleracer
24th May 2012, 21:42
First bike you ever owned. I would have thought you had been riding from a young age. :banana:
Got bike license at 15years & 3 days old, & that sir is a few too many haircuts ago
mossy1200
25th May 2012, 18:39
Got bike license at 15years & 3 days old, & that sir is a few too many haircuts ago
Oh. Sorry I thought you bought it new in your mid thirties. My bad.
:msn-wink:
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