View Full Version : Should I report this guy to the police?
iYRe
25th June 2012, 10:20
so.. the story is.. bicycling home on Friday after work. Got passed by and passed this guy in a Ford Ute about 3 times.. didnt think that much of it except that the last time he was revving his engine oddly and "pushed" past me to a roundabout.
Went on a bit further and stopped at a red light - its a red light at a pedestrian crossing (no cars, just people). I waited till everyone had crossed and the light was red for them - its a bit slow to go green because its outside a hospital and people crossing might be slower than usual. I took off once it was clear of people, about 2 secs before the light went green, because there are 2 speed humps, a round about and narrow s bend out the other side, and if I hammer it I can get through before the cars and onto the wider road.
Anyway, I can hear this V8 ute coming, THUNK THUNK over the speed humps (ie, no slowly). He pulls up next to me at the roundabout, and swears at me for "running the red light" (its LHD btw, so he is on my side of the road) as we go through he yanks down in steering wheel and swerves violently to the left before going right about the round about.
I had a go pro on, and I have the whole thing recorded including his rego. I was so tempted to catch him and say "see this camera, it just recorded you trying to smash me with your car, and now its recording me punch you in face.." - but I couldnt catch him by the next lights, because they went green before I was 3/4 of the way there.
I'll chuck up the video later after I have edited it down to a decent length, if anyone is interested in seeing the footage.
Yes, I should have waited for the green.. and should it be necessary I'd pay a fine for it..
GTRMAN
25th June 2012, 10:25
Sounds like he was pretty aggresive, however a video showing you running a red light mught not do you any favours with the police.....
iYRe
25th June 2012, 10:27
fortunately its not all that clear on the video :)
Also.. I could have got off and walked the 2m to the other side without an issue :P
unstuck
25th June 2012, 10:27
We need the Dodgy driver thread back in action.:devil2: Take it to the authoritys if you feel that is the correct course of action for you. :niceone:
GrayWolf
25th June 2012, 11:06
so.. the story is.. bicycling home on Friday after work. Got passed by and passed this guy in a Ford Ute about 3 times.. didnt think that much of it except that the last time he was revving his engine oddly and "pushed" past me to a roundabout.
Went on a bit further and stopped at a red light - its a red light at a pedestrian crossing (no cars, just people). I waited till everyone had crossed and the light was red for them - its a bit slow to go green because its outside a hospital and people crossing might be slower than usual. I took off once it was clear of people, about 2 secs before the light went green, because there are 2 speed humps, a round about and narrow s bend out the other side, and if I hammer it I can get through before the cars and onto the wider road.
Anyway, I can hear this V8 ute coming, THUNK THUNK over the speed humps (ie, no slowly). He pulls up next to me at the roundabout, and swears at me for "running the red light" (its LHD btw, so he is on my side of the road) as we go through he yanks down in steering wheel and swerves violently to the left before going right about the round about.
I had a go pro on, and I have the whole thing recorded including his rego. I was so tempted to catch him and say "see this camera, it just recorded you trying to smash me with your car, and now its recording me punch you in face.." - but I couldnt catch him by the next lights, because they went green before I was 3/4 of the way there.
I'll chuck up the video later after I have edited it down to a decent length, if anyone is interested in seeing the footage.
Yes, I should have waited for the green.. and should it be necessary I'd pay a fine for it..
Yeh he was being a bit of a knob, but i think you must also realise many cyclists act like complete knobs on the road and maybe his olerance had been reached for the day.... examples I see frequently...
Riding two or more abreast, and getting shitty if you say anything in traffic....
jumping red lights... and/or not stopping, diving onto the pavement, zooming across a pedestrian crossing, then back onto the road,,,, I would guess our resident boys in blue would take a dim view if they see it?
lane splitting?? :killingme:tugger: diving round, between,through traffic with absolutely no checking left or right, or rear observations
diving out from the kerb round a parked car, again with NO mirrors or rear observation
undercutting traffic on roundabouts (a few small tight slow speed ones on my route).. then bitching like hades when they are almost taken out for being on the left as the car peels off
but yes I'd seriously consider reporting something like that... however just remember he is likely to tell them he observed you jumping the red light in 'revenge'......
oneofsix
25th June 2012, 11:09
I'll bet the cyclist didn't indicate his intentions at all, like when exiting the round-a-bout. :shutup:
SMOKEU
25th June 2012, 11:12
Video footage or it didn't happen.
oneofsix
25th June 2012, 11:14
You should report the knob. Road rage or any other excuse doesn't cut it. He was attacking you with a dangerous weapon. At least driving dangerously. Yes you committed minor offences but he was dangerous and how long before he succeeds in taking someone out?
Also if he is going to drive on NZ roads he should convert his driving position to suit and get proper indicators.
imdying
25th June 2012, 11:19
Don't worry about the red light thing... that's another matter entirely.
What's the registration number?
HenryDorsetCase
25th June 2012, 11:23
Dont be such a girl.
Find him and kill him.
Law of the jungle and that.
Maha
25th June 2012, 11:28
Sounds like he was pretty aggresive, however a video showing you running a red light mught not do you any favours with the police.....
Cyclists...the law of the road does not apply to them.
iYRe
25th June 2012, 11:29
Don't worry about the red light thing... that's another matter entirely.
What's the registration number?
I have to grab some stills off the footage.. just downloading from home now.. 5gb :P
Parlane
25th June 2012, 11:32
Let's see the video and we can see how bad it is! :D
HenryDorsetCase
25th June 2012, 11:35
Cyclists...the law of the road does not apply to them.
As someone who cycled to work and recreationally for 15+ years I am well aware of that. There are only two rules on the road: might is right, and you have to look after yourself because no other fucker will. If that means jumping a red light (so the cunt next to you or coming up behind you doesnt turn left and kill you, or whatever it takes, thats what you do.
I can't understand why motorbike riders (a lot of whom are also cyclists) are not more supportive.
Sure, cyclists break the law: so what. its a survival mechanism. And the cunts of drivers who try and kill them, they arent breaking the law too?
Fast Eddie
25th June 2012, 11:37
call whine one one, they should help you out bud.
you should have been on a motorbike not a pushbike anyway, so you were in the wrong all along I recon
Parlane
25th June 2012, 11:40
call whine one one, they should help you out bud.
you should have been on a motorbike not a pushbike anyway, so you were in the wrong all along I recon
Atleast on a motorbike you could have caught up to the guy and kept the speed level, jumped in to the back of the ute while your motorbike flies in to a tree nearby and exacted your revenge by jumping feet first in to his cab through the closed window.
SMOKEU
25th June 2012, 11:42
If he was threatening and intimidating you with a vehicle, then it's no different to threatening someone with a gun. Both are deadly weapons, the vehicle even more so.
Big Dave
25th June 2012, 11:46
If you don't like the way I drive - stay OFF the footpath.
Maha
25th June 2012, 11:55
As someone who cycled to work and recreationally for 15+ years I am well aware of that. There are only two rules on the road: might is right, and you have to look after yourself because no other fucker will. If that means jumping a red light (so the cunt next to you or coming up behind you doesnt turn left and kill you, or whatever it takes, thats what you do.
I can't understand why motorbike riders (a lot of whom are also cyclists) are not more supportive.
Sure, cyclists break the law: so what. its a survival mechanism. And the cunts of drivers who try and kill them, they arent breaking the law too?
In this situation, no, Ute Man was not breaking the law...being a complete fuckwit....yes, cant argue with that.
Be interesting to view the footage, I guess every road user has an excuse as to why they did something, that someone else finds inexcusable.
Fast Eddie
25th June 2012, 12:10
Atleast on a motorbike you could have caught up to the guy and kept the speed level, jumped in to the back of the ute while your motorbike flies in to a tree nearby and exacted your revenge by jumping feet first in to his cab through the closed window.
exactly what I would have, and have, done :)
Fast Eddie IS Chuck Norris
HenryDorsetCase
25th June 2012, 12:18
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7164759/Road-rage-accused-banker-in-court
relevant
bsasuper
25th June 2012, 12:28
Just put the vid up so we can all have a good laugh.
Gremlin
25th June 2012, 12:31
Easy enough to report: https://forms.police.govt.nz/forms/online-community-roadwatch-report/9
If he drove like that around me, I would. I'm sick of crap driving, and try to remember licence plates. I reported a red light runner (not orange) on Friday and another on Saturday, and I tell off those who use mobiles while driving.
Maha
25th June 2012, 12:32
Just put the vid up so we can all have a good laugh.
They are probably talking about this on www.kiwicager.co.nz
iYRe
25th June 2012, 12:49
...I tell off those who use mobiles while driving.
do you call em?
My mom texted me while I was driving to tell me to not text while I was driving. But then, she's nearly 70...
bogan
25th June 2012, 12:55
They are probably talking about this on www.kiwicager.co.nz
For a minute there I was thinking I had been redirected to www.kiwipedlar.co.nz or some shit.
To the OP, solve it like a real biker, get on your bike, get a length of chain, ride up alongside and claim some mirrors!
Seriously though, I found some relevant reading (about half way down the page) (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/the-give-way-rules.html) on this topic for you, should be pretty helpful.
HenryDorsetCase
25th June 2012, 12:56
They are probably talking about this on www.kiwicager.co.nz
pics are not loading for me :(
HenryDorsetCase
25th June 2012, 12:57
In this situation, no, Ute Man was not breaking the law...being a complete fuckwit....yes, cant argue with that.
Be interesting to view the footage, I guess every road user has an excuse as to why they did something, that someone else finds inexcusable.
I drive like the Lord Humungous
(trick proposition: he had a driver)
bsasuper
25th June 2012, 15:09
If he drove like that around me, I would. I'm sick of crap driving, and try to remember licence plates. I reported a red light runner (not orange) on Friday and another on Saturday, and I tell off those who use mobiles while driving.
You need to get a new hobby or some friends, you sad sad person
skippa1
25th June 2012, 15:19
You need to get a new hobby or some friends, you sad sad person
+1....aha:yes:
Hailwood
25th June 2012, 16:21
So what I am reading is....you ran a red light and a guy in a ute got pissy with you and turned his wheel towards you.......you ran a red light, the vehicle did not make contact with you and he said bad words to you because you ran a red light.
Seriously?
Harden the f@#k up, stop running red lights and stop whining like a little bitch...of course if your "edited" footage disproves this then so be it......:tugger:
Fast Eddie
25th June 2012, 16:26
lol there are enough cops and parking wardens to look out for and ping ya, now we got the general population turning on each other too!
don't worry everyone, you're safe to wheelie past me and I shan't dob you in to the rozza
nodrog
25th June 2012, 16:58
For fucksakes, the softcock ratio on KB is on the increase.
you should find out his email address and infract him.
tigertim20
25th June 2012, 17:22
I wouldnt bother.
the most the cops are likely to do is send a letter saying 'your driving was whinged about by some cunt on a bike, try not to upset these gentle peddle power souls or we will have to send you more nicely worded letters, have a nice day'
Fuckall is going to happen. Is it realy worth the time and effort of complaining? I doubt it.
Im sure there are times when your driving or riding (motorcycle or cycle) leaves alot to be desired in the eyes of others too - none of us are perfect.
Laava
25th June 2012, 17:43
I am hoping the video will stir up some controversy. Yo mama!
Big Dave
25th June 2012, 17:46
I am hoping the video will stir up some controversy. Yo mama!
Hey that's a great idea for a web site/facebook...
or not.
Laava
25th June 2012, 17:52
Yes! We could call it the ambivalent society! I think it's a great idea.........or not, not sure?
Nova.
25th June 2012, 17:55
Easy enough to report: https://forms.police.govt.nz/forms/online-community-roadwatch-report/9
If he drove like that around me, I would. I'm sick of crap driving, and try to remember licence plates. I reported a red light runner (not orange) on Friday and another on Saturday, and I tell off those who use mobiles while driving.
Cuntface :mad:
FJRider
25th June 2012, 18:10
Fuckall is going to happen. Is it realy worth the time and effort of complaining? I doubt it.
He felt so strongly on the matter ... he came on THIS site and complained ... first !!!
There seems little likelyhood HE will get off his ass and do anything constructive ... (apart from giving a few of us a giggle)
iYRe
25th June 2012, 18:31
actually, I thought I might get some constructive comments.. but then I forgot.. its KB.
Hailwood:
No.
iYRe
25th June 2012, 18:33
I wouldnt bother.
the most the cops are likely to do is send a letter saying 'your driving was whinged about by some cunt on a bike, try not to upset these gentle peddle power souls or we will have to send you more nicely worded letters, have a nice day'
Fuckall is going to happen. Is it realy worth the time and effort of complaining? I doubt it.
Im sure there are times when your driving or riding (motorcycle or cycle) leaves alot to be desired in the eyes of others too - none of us are perfect.
The point being.. is it worth my time to report him? He didnt hit me, he just attempted to, and because its a LHD vehicle, you can see him clearly doing it.
skism
25th June 2012, 18:35
so.. The story is.. Bicycling home on friday after work. Got passed by and passed this guy in a ford ute about 3 times.. Didnt think that much of it except that the last time he was revving his engine oddly and "pushed" past me to a roundabout.
Went on a bit further and stopped at a red light - its a red light at a pedestrian crossing (no cars, just people). I waited till everyone had crossed and the light was red for them - its a bit slow to go green because its outside a hospital and people crossing might be slower than usual. I took off once it was clear of people, about 2 secs before the light went green, because there are 2 speed humps, a round about and narrow s bend out the other side, and if i hammer it i can get through before the cars and onto the wider road.
Anyway, i can hear this v8 ute coming, thunk thunk over the speed humps (ie, no slowly). He pulls up next to me at the roundabout, and swears at me for "running the red light" (its lhd btw, so he is on my side of the road) as we go through he yanks down in steering wheel and swerves violently to the left before going right about the round about.
I had a go pro on, and i have the whole thing recorded including his rego. I was so tempted to catch him and say "see this camera, it just recorded you trying to smash me with your car, and now its recording me punch you in face.." - but i couldnt catch him by the next lights, because they went green before i was 3/4 of the way there.
I'll chuck up the video later after i have edited it down to a decent length, if anyone is interested in seeing the footage.
Yes, i should have waited for the green.. And should it be necessary i'd pay a fine for it..
get some fucken balls, find out where he lives and give a him a good polishing with a 2x4
Geeen
25th June 2012, 18:43
l....... to wheelie past me ..........
I thunked that was the KB wave :scratch:
iYRe
25th June 2012, 18:56
FSU164
http://youtu.be/RWTlkAz1604
5150
25th June 2012, 19:04
So what I am reading is....you ran a red light and a guy in a ute got pissy with you and turned his wheel towards you.......you ran a red light, the vehicle did not make contact with you and he said bad words to you because you ran a red light.
Seriously?
Harden the f@#k up, stop running red lights and stop whining like a little bitch...of course if your "edited" footage disproves this then so be it......:tugger:
+1
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Geeen
25th June 2012, 19:08
After watching the vid I would suggest ranting and waving your arms to friends/family and calling the driver a twat. Not really worth the hassle of involving the boys in blue.
Nova.
25th June 2012, 19:09
LOL mate, that was nothing.
Bassmatt
25th June 2012, 19:18
Nothing much in that vid, move on mate.
Oakie
25th June 2012, 19:20
Annoying and enough to piss a chappy off I'd agree. I understand a little growl over that.
Changing the subject though ... from the light playing on the road infront of you you seem to be one of those bicyclists who rides with an aeroplane landing light strapped to your head. Don't know what sort of battery you guys pack but I swear some of those helmet lights make me think there's a 747 on final approach using my piece of road as a runway. Discuss.
unstuck
25th June 2012, 19:21
I would of run you and your bike over.:bleh::banana::banana:
ducatilover
25th June 2012, 19:59
That guy was pretty tough, he was driving one handed and stuffs.
:(
FJRider
25th June 2012, 20:30
actually, I thought I might get some constructive comments.. but then I forgot.. its KB.
Hailwood:
No.
It's simple really ...
You can run red lights because you're on a treadly ...
And he can drive like a dickward ... because he has a flash car ...
Sounds about normal here on KB ... :lol:
Berries
25th June 2012, 21:22
To be honest I don't know what a 2001 Suzuki 800 Volusia looks like but by fuck it needs a bit more power. I could ride a pushbike faster than that.
carburator
25th June 2012, 21:31
looked like choppa reids younger brother..
nzspokes
25th June 2012, 22:43
Annoying and enough to piss a chappy off I'd agree. I understand a little growl over that.
Changing the subject though ... from the light playing on the road infront of you you seem to be one of those bicyclists who rides with an aeroplane landing light strapped to your head. Don't know what sort of battery you guys pack but I swear some of those helmet lights make me think there's a 747 on final approach using my piece of road as a runway. Discuss.
Those lights are epic. I have one and use it for working on my motorbike at night. Rebuilt my XR motor with it. Battery pack is the size of a wallet.
nzspokes
25th June 2012, 22:48
Just realized your were on a bicycle after watching the vid.
After spending the last 20 odd years as a cyclist, it was a minor incident.
Indiana_Jones
25th June 2012, 23:02
I'd let it slide.
I had a cunt in a cage have a go at me a month ago because I decided to split and was waiting in the green pad at the front. He was shouting and raving at the car behind me (he was in the lane to the left of myself) to run me over and I should wait in line........yeah.........cause I'm gonna do that lol........
-Indy
ellipsis
25th June 2012, 23:12
...dont you own a pointy stick?...
Gremlin
25th June 2012, 23:47
You need to get a new hobby or some friends, you sad sad person
Cuntface :mad:
Boohoo. I do 15k a year just commuting (and more travelling the country). In South Auckland in particular people seem to reckon there isn't anyone in the intersection, so fuck everyone else, I'll keep going. I'm sick of it, the cops should be watching it more, so in the meantime, I'll keep reporting them. Once society stops accepting this blatant display of poor driving I won't need to report them, will I?
*sits back for someone to think of a clever idea why NOT running a red light is hard...*
scumdog
26th June 2012, 07:07
Ya missed a golden opportunity to hoik a big green hocker into the Ranchero drivers face bro!
And who the fuck did he think he was? - the red-light-runner police?"
oneofsix
26th June 2012, 07:12
Ya missed a golden opportunity to hoik a big green hocker into the Ranchero drivers face bro!
And who the fuck did he think he was? - the red-light-runner police?"
Does this mean hoiking a big green hocker into a Ranchero driver's face isn't assault? I would have thought it would have been assault with a biological weapon of mass infection.
scumdog
26th June 2012, 07:16
Does this mean hoiking a big green hocker into a Ranchero driver's face isn't assault? I would have thought it would have been assault with a biological weapon of mass infection.
Yeah it's an assault.
Why do you ask?
oneofsix
26th June 2012, 07:22
Yeah it's an assault.
Why do you ask?
Just hoping :innocent: For future use.
Actually be a bit awkward for me as I have a full face helmet and not one with the flip front. :facepalm: But I could have carried used tissues :whistle:
Maha
26th June 2012, 07:34
Boohoo. I do 15k a year just commuting (and more travelling the country). In South Auckland in particular people seem to reckon there isn't anyone in the intersection, so fuck everyone else, I'll keep going. I'm sick of it, the cops should be watching it more, so in the meantime, I'll keep reporting them. Once society stops accepting this blatant display of poor driving I won't need to report them, will I?
*sits back for someone to think of a clever idea why NOT running a red light is hard...*
And good on ya.
I would to, given the chance, we have two compulary stop signs here that mean absolutely nothing to most.
The offenders will often look you in the eye as they just, drive on through...one even stopped halfway across one morning to let me drive around him. That was considerate.
jellywrestler
26th June 2012, 09:46
fuck the road rules, get a good lawyer and take him to court for swearing.
iYRe
26th June 2012, 10:24
fwiw, the gopro fish eye tends to make things look a bit further away than they really are. We were both moving and I could have touched his ranchero when he swerved. As in... had he been a second faster with his swerve, he'd have got me.
nodrog
26th June 2012, 10:53
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Your headlight has parkinson's
iYRe
26th June 2012, 11:14
Your headlight has parkinson's
I dont even know Parkinson.
Ragingrob
26th June 2012, 11:29
fwiw, the gopro fish eye tends to make things look a bit further away than they really are. We were both moving and I could have touched his ranchero when he swerved. As in... had he been a second faster with his swerve, he'd have got me.
You run red light, he drives a bit close to you... Even I can tell who the illegal one was.
huff3r
26th June 2012, 20:11
Your headlight has parkinson's
Probably should get that fixed, the flashy lights are so blinding it's impossible to correctly perceive distance to the cyclist (a fixed light is much better for distance perception).
So sure you're gonna be noticed with the big flashing fucker, but nobody's gonna be able to work out where the fuck you are at any point in time. He probably thought he was well past ya.
Kiwi Graham
27th June 2012, 08:12
Cant see the video, IT block You tube but from the description and this is a wild stab in the dark here..........
If you hadnt run the red light this thread wouldn't exsist.
So the moral of this story is stop pissing other road users off by thinking the road rules dont apply to you.
On my commute I see time and again cyclists running red lights jumping on pavements to avoid red lights, even a group riding in a perceved peloton all lycra'd up in 2,3,4 or more abreast in rush hour traffic ffs :facepalm:
Parlane
27th June 2012, 12:55
Cant see the video, IT block You tube but from the description and this is a wild stab in the dark here..........
If you hadnt run the red light this thread wouldn't exsist.
So the moral of this story is stop pissing other road users off by thinking the road rules dont apply to you.
On my commute I see time and again cyclists running red lights jumping on pavements to avoid red lights, even a group riding in a perceved peloton all lycra'd up in 2,3,4 or more abreast in rush hour traffic ffs :facepalm:
I guess no road users are tolerant of cyclists lol.
scumdog
27th June 2012, 14:04
I guess no road users are tolerant of OTHER ROAD USERS lol.
Fixed it!!;)
imdying
27th June 2012, 14:55
Ohhhh, you're a cyclist? A non ACC paying non road tax paying waste of space? You're fair game then.
Parlane
27th June 2012, 15:17
Ohhhh, you're a cyclist? A non ACC paying non road tax paying waste of space? You're fair game then.
You'd think with the ACC top ups we pay that they would throw the cyclist privilege in for free!
jim.cox
27th June 2012, 16:02
Ohhhh, you're a cyclist? A non ACC paying non road tax paying waste of space? You're fair game then.
Oh Yeah? What's the bet he has both a car and a motorcycle at home thats he's paying levies on...
imdying
27th June 2012, 16:15
Oh Yeah? What's the bet he has both a car and a motorcycle at home thats he's paying levies on...Big fucking deal... he wasn't operating either of those.
5150
27th June 2012, 18:51
Oh Yeah? What's the bet he has both a car and a motorcycle at home thats he's paying levies on...
With that sort of reasoning why should I pay ACC in my motorcycle rego. I already pay it on both of my cars.
Kornholio
27th June 2012, 19:29
Sounds like he pissed off a bogan somehow... Shit happens...
Marnie
27th June 2012, 21:58
What colour was your Lycra? Maybe that's what pissed him off...
nzspokes
27th June 2012, 22:25
Ohhhh, you're a cyclist? A non ACC paying non road tax paying waste of space? You're fair game then.
This is an area that I have some knowledge of. Yes ACC has been looked into for Cyclists. The cost of compliance makes it uneconomic to collect. So based on Ks traveled on average to cost of injures etc it worked out to $5 per year per cyclist. The cost of collecting this revenue was far outweighed by the cost of collecting it.
Im an ex-cyclist but as im paying 1k a year in regos if I felt like riding my bicycle down the road, I will.
crystalball
27th June 2012, 22:57
[QUOTE=iYRe;1130346622]FSU164 [/QUOTyawn yawn yawn boring
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