Random thought for the day

[mashman]

...whilst in the chamber of ideas (taking a dump), I don't know why, hence random, I have thought of a way to bring down the road toll. We have the technology to stop a car starting based on alcohol consumption and no doubt that will be followed by drug consumption. Unfortunately this will give rise to a black market where these devices will be bypassed and we'll end up with "them" people on the road. Yes some get caught, but how many, 1:10?, 1:1000?... anyhoo, why not have a light on top of the car/helmet that will be universally known as the "Under the Influence light".

This will alert drivers around them that the person in the vehicle could be in any shape and to drive slightly more careful around them, or at least expect the unexpected.
If they cause an accident etc... there would be no need for a blood test etc... as a record of their "condition" will have been maintained by the vehicle, so the cops could just arrest them (no need for the cops to suffer thems with a wish to get away with it to being dicks) and the courts could slap them with evidence and appropriate punishment (all automated? drive yourself to jail? Praps the car could lock the doors and drive you there itself? :laugh:)
Lawyers wouldn't be needed to defend the person, so there would be no loopholes for thems with clever lawyers to enable them to dodge their responsibility.
I'd be fuckin loaded ($$$, not just loaded) beyond my wildest dreams and free to pursue my "dream".

We have the technology. Why not use it.

[5150]

Did you wipe your arse afterwards? :sick:

[mashman]

Did you wipe your arse afterwards? :sick:

heh... I did and I washed my hands too... even though my finger didn't slip through the paper.

[avgas]

Kill all the people. That would dramatically decrease the road toll.

[mashman]

Kill all the people. That would dramatically decrease the road toll.

We have the technology :eek:

[Road kill]

There's going to be a segment about a guy on Te Noos tonight that is going up on his 29th DIC charge.
If he doesn't go to jail,I'll help finance your plan so long as it has a kill function.

[Usarka]

"Under the Influence light".



The Ford badge is a better indicator.

[Ender EnZed]

There's going to be a segment about a guy on Te Noos tonight that is going up on his 29th DIC charge.
If he doesn't go to jail,I'll help finance your plan so long as it has a kill function.

Sounds like he already has. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7234609/Man-jailed-after-26-drink-driving-charges)

[mashman]

There's going to be a segment about a guy on Te Noos tonight that is going up on his 29th DIC charge.
If he doesn't go to jail,I'll help finance your plan so long as it has a kill function.

Only 29... Wonder how many times he's actually been pissed and on the road. Can we have a "lottery"? 5 Vehicles with drivers under the influence will be blown to pieces every evening. Good enough?


The Ford badge is a better indicator.

A punishment could be that their car is taken from them and in replacement they receive a Ford Fiesta 1.1 with a 500kg weight in the boot.

[Berries]

...whilst in the chamber of ideas (taking a dump), I don't know why, hence random, I have thought of a way to bring down the road toll. We have the technology to stop a car starting based on alcohol consumption and no doubt that will be followed by drug consumption. Unfortunately this will give rise to a black market where these devices will be bypassed and we'll end up with "them" people on the road. Yes some get caught, but how many, 1:10?, 1:1000?... anyhoo, why not have a light on top of the car/helmet that will be universally known as the "Under the Influence light".
Erm, is there, er, a chance that they could, like, bypass the UTIL as well?

If your slightly flawed system went ahead, would the charge be being under the influence under the influence light?

[mashman]

Erm, is there, er, a chance that they could, like, bypass the UTIL as well?

If your slightly flawed system went ahead, would the charge be being under the influence under the influence light?

hmmmmmm... that could be tomorrow's thought :)

I agree, it is a wee smidge flawed... and no, the charge will be crashing into something/someone etc... and jail time (for being under the influence under the influence light, if ya like). Yes driving whilst under the influence won't be a crime anymore, but if they're gonna be under the influence whilst, then driving every road user and pedestrian would be better off knowing that imminent danger is imminent? Perhaps a lit hat with a D on it? maybe even a propeller whirling around powering some form of voice box for the car, "drunk on board, get outta the fackin way". It's a preventative measure without the expensive of police time, court time and associated jail costs etc... who knows, maybe we'll let people throw balloons filled with paint stripper at the vehicles... then people can vent their anger and feel better :blink:

[FJRider]

Or just impound their car for 28 days on being found over the limit ... and CRUSH their car after the 3rd conviction of drunk driving.

Drunk drivers are more likely to kill other road users, than the boy racers ... currently the target of Goverment victimization ....

[oneofsix]

Or just impound their car for 28 days on being found over the limit ... and CRUSH their car after the 3rd conviction of drunk driving.

Drunk drivers are more likely to kill other road users, than the boy racers ... currently the target of Goverment victimization ....

Drunk driving makes that sound reasonable, but our laws target drink driving. Drunk drivers are 3 times the adult drink driving limits. The group that causes the problems are the drunk drivers. Crush the drunk drivers otherwise they will just beg, borrow or steel another car, as has been done before by ones that were caught several times at more than 3 times the adult limit.

[mossy1200]

The breath tester should be in taxis. If you blow over the limit you get a free ride home.

I guess I dont do my best thinking while dropping the Cosby Kids off at the pool.

[Macontour]

[QUOTE=mashman;1130353005]Only 29... Wonder how many times he's actually been pissed and on the road.

I remember reading somewhere years ago that it was estimated that drunk drivers drove something like 500 times or more under the influence before getting caught although I guess in small towns you soon get known.

[mashman]

Or just impound their car for 28 days on being found over the limit ... and CRUSH their car after the 3rd conviction of drunk driving.

Drunk drivers are more likely to kill other road users, than the boy racers ... currently the target of Goverment victimization ....

Does every drunk driver have an accident? Is every drunk driver caught? If people knew that the vehicle coming towards them was piloted by a dickhead under the influence, would they take more care for their safety and potentially save their own life? I see no reason in wasting resources by chasing ghost chips. Granted I'd rather they didn't get influenced, but being realistic about it, it happens every day without us knowing who where or when. Gives us a chance by lighting them up and if they do fuckup, hammer them hard.

[mashman]

I remember reading somewhere years ago that it was estimated that drunk drivers drove something like 500 times or more under the influence before getting caught although I guess in small towns you soon get known.

That doesn't surprise me. I lived in a small town for 7 years and was driven by drunk drivers countless times without incident. One remarking that the secret was to close one eye... which is fuckin disconcerting when it's the eye that you can see... and as you say, everyone knows it.

[FJRider]

Does every drunk driver have an accident? Is every drunk driver caught? If people knew that the vehicle coming towards them was piloted by a dickhead under the influence, would they take more care for their safety and potentially save their own life? I see no reason in wasting resources by chasing ghost chips. Granted I'd rather they didn't get influenced, but being realistic about it, it happens every day without us knowing who where or when. Gives us a chance by lighting them up and if they do fuckup, hammer them hard.

Has every person caught "just over" the limit ... never driven "well over" the limit ... ???
A person with 29 convictions would lose a few cars in the process ... they couldn't afford to drink, they couldn't afford to with their car payments/insurance. (think of the bonus this would give the car sales industry)

[Berries]

There is merit, like the taxis in Singapore, or is it in KL, where a light on the roof goes off if they exceed the speed limit and can only be turned off by a cop. But this continues to use up Police time and if you look at all the sad fucks around with blue LED's added to their ride it is hardly going to put them off. Better if the vehicle itself can provide the punishment. I was thinking of an electrical circuit that is only completed and thus able to power the car once the driver is in the seat. Then, if alcohol or drugs to a level that affect your driving are detected, or even other dodgy stuff like the possession of ginger hair, the electrical current will increase.

At a certain powerage the driver will have to decide whether to stop and get out or continue to suffer the increasing pain. There will also be random spikes in the current to catch out those recidivists and to kill them dead.

But that's in the future when we all have electric cars. For now I think a spike that extends gradually from the steering wheel towards the chest of the driver has two benefits. First the driver won't want to crash, and second you can limit the length of time they are on the road by the altering the speed the spike extends. And of course, there will be random stabbing motions as well.

Right, take that fucker to the Dragons Den. I didn't even need to do poos.

EDIT - Oh, the thread got serious while I typed.

[mashman]

Has every person caught "just over" the limit ... never driven "well over" the limit ... ???
A person with 29 convictions would lose a few cars in the process ... they couldn't afford to drink, they couldn't afford to with their car payments/insurance. (think of the bonus this would give the car sales industry)

I guess we'll never know the answer to that one... no doubt we could fudge some stats :msn-wink:
And of they can afford a dunger with no insurance every 6 months, what changes? Let them do it. Give them the rope to hang themselves so to speak and if they fuck up then by all means crush the car, if they don't then technically they've done no harm. I know how mad it sounds, but I like mad, mad is my friend, mad actually makes sense all things considered, kinda :eek:

[FJRider]

...whilst in the chamber of ideas (taking a dump)

At least when I read this ... I had an obscure thought that after that post ... you would at least be no longer ... so full of shit.




I was wrong ... that small, faint, glimmer of hope ... gone

[mashman]

There is merit, like the taxis in Singapore, or is it in KL, where a light on the roof goes off if they exceed the speed limit and can only be turned off by a cop. But this continues to use up Police time and if you look at all the sad fucks around with blue LED's added to their ride it is hardly going to put them off. Better if the vehicle itself can provide the punishment. I was thinking of an electrical circuit that is only completed and thus able to power the car once the driver is in the seat. Then, if alcohol or drugs to a level that affect your driving are detected, or even other dodgy stuff like the possession of ginger hair, the electrical current will increase.

At a certain powerage the driver will have to decide whether to stop and get out or continue to suffer the increasing pain. There will also be random spikes in the current to catch out those recidivists and to kill them dead.

But that's in the future when we all have electric cars. For now I think a spike that extends gradually from the steering wheel towards the chest of the driver has two benefits. First the driver won't want to crash, and second you can limit the length of time they are on the road by the altering the speed the spike extends. And of course, there will be random stabbing motions as well.

Right, take that fucker to the Dragons Den. I didn't even need to do poos.

EDIT - Oh, the thread got serious while I typed.

Tis never serious, have at it man... tis just an idea for changing the rules and offering up a different sort of prevention scheme that'll be cheaper than the current one.

Building on from FJK's comments, perhaps a self crushing car? An ejector seat could be fun. Drunk and over the speed limit, wooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhh, thud, dunk splat dunk. The problem being that cars will be left in the middle of the road, people will get angry and start shouting at each other, it'll be chaos, tyre iron fights becoming more and more frequent, people rushing out of their houses with kitchen knives and chainsaws, blood and gore everywhere....... I'm off to hollywood with this :cool: right after I've had another trip to the chamber of ideas aaaaaaaaaaaand the bike shop for a new exhaust gasket.

Does your magic database deal with drink related accident stats?

[mashman]

At least when I read this ... I had an obscure thought that after that post ... you would at least be no longer ... so full of shit.




I was wrong ... that small, faint, glimmer of hope ... gone

:rofl: you fool!

[Berries]

Building on from FJK's comments, perhaps a self crushing car? An ejector seat could be fun. Drunk and over the speed limit, wooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhh, thud, dunk splat dunk. The problem being that cars will be left in the middle of the road, people will get angry and start shouting at each other, it'll be chaos, tyre iron fights becoming more and more frequent, people rushing out of their houses with kitchen knives and chainsaws, blood and gore everywhere....... I'm off to hollywood with this :cool: right after I've had another trip to the chamber of ideas aaaaaaaaaaaand the bike shop for a new exhaust gasket.
I think that just marking the car of someone convicted for whatever the offence of the day is should be sufficient, a bit like taxis seeing as they are all criminals anyway. Friends and family would be too embarrased to drive it so we would push back peak oil for a few more decades. When seen driving on the road those upstanding law abiding citizens can keep well clear, point and shake their heads. The local Charles Bronsons can be exempt from any damage caused to the vehicle or the driver if it is seen out in the dark. In fact they should be encouraged to target these drivers to help reduce graffiti, teenage pregnancy and all the other good stuff that the kids get up to these days. No offences for three years and you get to take the yellow star or whatever off the car, and be welcomed back in to our happy and joyous society.

But ejector seats would be good, especially if angled randomly off the vertical plane so you get a few splatting against shop fronts or buses.


Does your magic database deal with drink related accident stats?
Up to a point. It makes for sobering reading.

[MIXONE]

Does every drunk driver have an accident? Is every drunk driver caught? If people knew that the vehicle coming towards them was piloted by a dickhead under the influence, would they take more care for their safety and potentially save their own life.

I would probable think I was looking in a mirror.:not: