Buckets at Cemetery Circuit?

[crazy man]

would'nt that be fun! l did race my bucket 15+ years ago there and was a heap of fun apart from it was in with clubmans but a bucket only class or maybe with street stocks would me cool

[jellywrestler]

go away

[Grumph]

Well we run them at all the SI street circuits except Wyndham - too many classes there.

If the usual race classes keep dropping entry numbers it's well worth the organisers looking at buckets.
Greymouth is big - well over 30 in the bucket field and entertaining as hell....

[koba]

Well we run them at all the SI street circuits except Wyndham - too many classes there.
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I'd be quite keen to try one of these one day, If I had to pick which one would you recommend? Nelson already has extra credit because It's a nice place and quite close.

[Kickaha]

I'd be quite keen to try one of these one day, If I had to pick which one would you recommend? Nelson already has extra credit because It's a nice place and quite close.

Unless Nelson has changed considerbaly go to Greymouth, much better organised and run

Actually I just remembered Nelson doesn't run Buckets anymore so you don't get much choice

[koba]

Unless Nelson has changed considerbaly go to Greymouth, much better organised and run

Actually I just remembered Nelson doesn't run Buckets anymore so you don't get much choice

True, is there one at Methven too?

[Drew]

I'd try and organise a bucket street meeting, at the new business park on Alexander road in Upper Hutt if I thought I could trust racers to show up after they said they'd do it.

But I don't think buckets have a place at Wanganui...or Paeroa. Haven't been to the other meetings or seen the tracks, but for paying customers to spectate, I hope there are no straights.

[koba]

I'd try and organise a bucket street meeting, at the new business park on Alexander road in Upper Hutt if I thought I could trust racers to show up after they said they'd do it.


I'd had a look around there with that in mind but it would be hard to make it interesting.

There have been quite a lot of small 'street races' around the place. All before I've been racing but I watched some.

[crazy man]

l just think getting people into road racing it gets seen there .looking at 600 and 1000 there would be no way l would let my kides do that but if you sore buckets and heard a bit of a run down on it that where you will get new comers! and then the fathers come along to play as well but l guess you guys fire blanks and have no idea lol

[Drew]

I'd had a look around there with that in mind but it would be hard to make it interesting.

There have been quite a lot of small 'street races' around the place. All before I've been racing but I watched some.

I don't think it'd be that hard. Use the little cresent with the driveway curb bits in all, that'd sort the men from the boys. No girls allowed!

[speedpro]

I recall a meeting at railyards in Feilding (?) that took in a slope up to a loading bay. Meetings in Hamilton at the polytech(?) took in a bit of loose grit in the carpark and speedbumps on the roads in and out. Jim Steadman was sliding his bucket up to the curb on the loose grit and we broke a rose joint in the front suspension on the sidecar. Fixed it eventually by brazing the rose joint back together and carrying on. Wanganui is fun on a bucket and due to the nature of the track the buckets aren't any slower than mid-pack F3, years ago anyway. F3 may have gotten faster but buckets have probably gained even more. The supermarket carpark in Palmy was fun and so was the track through the gardens. That ruined a few families quiet picnics. Running round the wharf in Wellington was fun even if it did piss down the whole time and some poxy book sale thing meant the space available was reduced. There was potential for tossing it into the harbour if you REALLY screwed up. Foxton in the dry or wet was an awesome track where the locals turned up and showed real interest. Morly taking a shortcut down the back across the grass where the river had flooded was amusing. I was waiting for him to disappear into the river.


There's definitely potential for fun in the more irregular tracks. Probably getting harder for the organisers nowadays though.

[worm13]

I recall a meeting at railyards in Feilding (?) that took in a slope up to a loading bay. Meetings in Hamilton at the polytech(?) took in a bit of loose grit in the carpark and speedbumps on the roads in and out. Jim Steadman was sliding his bucket up to the curb on the loose grit and we broke a rose joint in the front suspension on the sidecar. Fixed it eventually by brazing the rose joint back together and carrying on. Wanganui is fun on a bucket and due to the nature of the track the buckets aren't any slower than mid-pack F3, years ago anyway. F3 may have gotten faster but buckets have probably gained even more. The supermarket carpark in Palmy was fun and so was the track through the gardens. That ruined a few families quiet picnics. Running round the wharf in Wellington was fun even if it did piss down the whole time and some poxy book sale thing meant the space available was reduced. There was potential for tossing it into the harbour if you REALLY screwed up. Foxton in the dry or wet was an awesome track where the locals turned up and showed real interest. Morly taking a shortcut down the back across the grass where the river had flooded was amusing. I was waiting for him to disappear into the river.


There's definitely potential for fun in the more irregular tracks. Probably getting harder for the organisers nowadays though.



Its a shame they stopped all that, I do remember watching morley do that as well hahaha even the square of feilding was a good turn out, its stupid how the pc police came along and put a end to the esplanaed saying it scared all the birds yet they had them stupid skaters and a starting gun go off all the time... go figure!

dunno if they have a place at wangaz but at least the racing would be right thru the pack not like them pesky trikes!

[Yow Ling]

Methven is a great days racing. Its run by CAMs who also host the Battle of the Buckets. The track is about 1.1km 5 corners plenty of spectators on easter saturday. Weather is usually good. The best class for the track is F4, bit short for the big bikes. the other classes are mostly classics and posties , i think there are also chook chasers and a Formula methven which is an invitation class for modern bikes. they set it up at 5am and its gone by 6 pm.

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[Buckets4Me]

But I don't think buckets have a place at Wanganui...or Paeroa.

I've seen at least one bucket running around at Paeroa :innocent: and it wasent doing to bad. Not the fastest bike out there but then again it's not the fastest bucket either :shit:

[Bert]

foxton was fun. fielding town square was interesting.
Ohakune Junction was the best though!!

maybe a north island tour to Methven at easter could be the go. now welly is looking unlikely.
I wander if the blue pub will have me back??

[crazy man]

yip foxton was fun. Ohakune Junction l just did not want to crash ! dont think my knee's would like it

[worm13]

yip foxton was fun. Ohakune Junction l just did not want to crash ! dont think my knee's would like it

I had a run in with a teacher at high school the week before that one and ended up grounded hahaha...:facepalm:

[speedpro]

yip foxton was fun. Ohakune Junction l just did not want to crash ! dont think my knee's would like it

Oh yeah. Left a chunk of my left knee at Ohakune and got a ride in the ambo to Wanganui. Some other bloke got involved as well and still has a little whing about it now and again. Jimmy came 2nd in the GP on my bike later in the day.

[Bert]

So; what we have gained from this thread is that:

1. some of us remember that buckets did use to race at Wanganui; and have not embarrassed themselves.
2. in the past we have had some great street races in little villages around the country; that have left some lasting memories
3. That the public getting the opportunity to see small bikes might be a good thing...
(I know that's how i got started; after aforementioned foodtown carpark meeting 1994ish).

So maybe a few of us should try and kick something off again???
Foxton to me still seems like a easy one; given that most of it was reserve (and still is)...

[crazy man]

Oh yeah. Left a chunk of my left knee at Ohakune and got a ride in the ambo to Wanganui. Some other bloke got involved as well and still has a little whing about it now and again. Jimmy came 2nd in the GP on my bike later in the day.l remember jimmys big end going and then doing a rebuild of the engine on the side of the track . that crash of yours was nasty

[Grumph]

So; what we have gained from this thread is that:

1. some of us remember that buckets did use to race at Wanganui; and have not embarrassed themselves.
2. in the past we have had some great street races in little villages around the country; that have left some lasting memories
3. That the public getting the opportunity to see small bikes might be a good thing...
(I know that's how i got started; after aforementioned foodtown carpark meeting 1994ish).

So maybe a few of us should try and kick something off again???
Foxton to me still seems like a easy one; given that most of it was reserve (and still is)...

You're going to have to go through an MNZ club but if you've an idea for a circuit, ask Billy who to get along for a preliminary look.
If it passes the preliminary feasibility look-see then you get the local council on side. Then probably local Lions or Rotary...it can be a real money maker for a small township.
It's a shitload of work but there's always room for another good street circuit.
Lots of luck....

[ellipsis]

...playing in the top five for positions in pre 72 at Methven is cool, but trying to catch up with 16th there on a Bucket is my idea of absolute fun...like YL said once before...'best bucket track in the country'...

[F5 Dave]

Oh yeah. Left a chunk of my left knee at Ohakune and got a ride in the ambo to Wanganui. Some other bloke got involved as well and still has a little whing about it now and again. Jimmy came 2nd in the GP on my bike later in the day.
The other chap came in the F5 class in 2nd so he can't have been too hurt, probably just bleating. Was a good looking chap though.

No chance Foxton, have you seen the shopping crowds on mainstreet there now they put that poxy fake windmill in? Main organiser at Ohakune moved away, but town deserted in summer so they may go for it again.

[Pickle]

Fielding street circuit was good fun all those off camber corners & shop front windows, had a couple of races there after the World Superbikes were at Manfield, Wellington waterfront in the wet very slippery - did get told off when re-entering the track haha
Palmerston Nth gardens was fun too
Wanganui the buckets were not that much slower than the mid pack F3 - probably upset too many who's ego was greater than their riding ability, hence they are not there anymore

[crazy man]

Fielding street circuit was good fun all those off camber corners & shop front windows, had a couple of races there after the World Superbikes were at Manfield, Wellington waterfront in the wet very slippery - did get told off when re-entering the track haha
Palmerston Nth gardens was fun too
Wanganui the buckets were not that much slower than the mid pack F3 - probably upset too many who's ego was greater than their riding ability, hence they are not there anymorel do remember morly going through the feild very fast . he just needed a faster bike

[speedpro]

Someone told me the commentators said something about Morley being the first of the buckets etc etc yada yada but there was another bucket 6 or so places ahead they hadn't noticed. Same as every other year - not noticed, except by the guys having trouble getting past it.

[jasonu]

Oh yeah. Left a chunk of my left knee at Ohakune and got a ride in the ambo to Wanganui. Some other bloke got involved as well and still has a little whing about it now and again. Jimmy came 2nd in the GP on my bike later in the day.

I had a nasty spill there too (with a lot of help from D.Dip). Lucky to walk away with just bruises.

[jasonu]

Someone told me the commentators said something about Morley being the first of the buckets etc etc yada yada but there was another bucket 6 or so places ahead they hadn't noticed. Same as every other year - not noticed, except by the guys having trouble getting past it.

Cant one enter F3 without declaring the bike as a Bucket? These days quite a few Buckets look more business like than a lot of 'proper' race bikes and are punted by riders way more capable than some of the big bike homos too.

[speedpro]

The last time I entered, ages ago, Barbara rejected my entry. No reason given, organisers don't have to, but through the grape vine I found it was because I would be too slow and get in the way. Yak Knight managed to talk her around for me. Practiced with the F3 guys and was nowhere near the slowest bike out there but somehow ended up on the back row of the grid. It's getting a bit vague now but I got somewhere like 14th in the first race and ended up on the back of the grid again. No amount of talking was going to change it, I tried. 2nd race a few of the other riders must have taken brave pills and I only got 17th or so. Being light and nimble there was no need to slow through the esses and in fact I was changing into top just as I peeled into the right and the front lofted over the camber mid corner as I changed direction.
I haven't been bothered to go back. If other bucket racers were going to show up I'd be very tempted to enter again.

It is a cool track on a bucket.

You can really stick it to the bigger bikes in certain places like over the railway lines, into the esses, and at flower garden. The esses were a real favourite. The slower guys would back off as they tipped in and if you were close enough you could fire it up the inside as they turned then flip it over to the left and wheely over the camber. I was told a couple of times how unamused other riders were. F3 was good, clubmans was horrifying. Lining up next to guys on GSXRs was spooky. You'd be smoked getting to the first corner and sneak past half of them going round it then smoked again etc etc.

[all4A50s]

Do they run street stock at Wanganui? If they do could you join in that class?

[Drew]

Do they run street stock at Wanganui? If they do could you join in that class?This is not the first time I've heard this as an idea, and I have no idea what the fuck people are thinking. Half your bikes are faster than street stocks! Lets also look at the name of the class as a hint to why buckets shouldn't be allowed in there fucking up the guys, who actually should be there.

[Kickaha]

Lets also look at the name of the class as a hint to why buckets shouldn't be allowed in there fucking up the guys, who actually should be there.
Quite a few Buckets are eligible for Streetstock dickhead

[Duke Stealth]

Quite a few Buckets are eligible for Streetstock dickhead

What you said.

And Drew what classes run together at the big meetings like the GP? Again get with the program.

How many FXR150 raced in buckets are pretty much stock or only modified within what's allowable to be eligible for street stock, my guess it would be the majority.

I'd love to have a crack at Wanganui, having raced F3 and SM there I think a bucket would be a hoot!
Hell, I'd even forfeit the chance of prize money;)

[jasonu]

This is not the first time I've heard this as an idea, and I have no idea what the fuck people are thinking. Half your bikes are faster than street stocks! Lets also look at the name of the class as a hint to why buckets shouldn't be allowed in there fucking up the guys, who actually should be there.

While Buckets in SS would be/is fun I agree with Drew. If I was a SS rider i would be dead against it. A lot like I am dead against those fucking pitbikes in Buckets.
However, if there was (say) a 30 second split start between SS and Buckets ie enough of a delay so the 2 classes didn't see eachother on track either passing or lapping... can't see anything wrong with that as long as there are enough entries.

[Drew]

How many FXR150 raced in buckets are pretty much stock or only modified within what's allowable to be eligible for street stock, my guess it would be the majority.

No where near the majority. Look up the street stock rules. You're barely allowed to change the bloody oil.

[Yow Ling]

While Buckets in SS would be/is fun I agree with Drew. If I was a SS rider i would be dead against it. A lot like I am dead against those fucking pitbikes in Buckets.
However, if there was (say) a 30 second split start between SS and Buckets ie enough of a delay so the 2 classes didn't see eachother on track either passing or lapping... can't see anything wrong with that as long as there are enough entries.

Buckets in Streetstock is fine, we run them together at MCI and Cams meets, on full track at Ruapuna SS are 1.54 to 1.56 a couple of buckets are that fast but most start at 2.01 2.03 its great racing with them , if there is a complaint its that the streetstock guys are a bit more crashy. they also run Prolite in the same races without any problems. the pitbike problems dont exist down here yet. Superbikes are 1.30 so the gap between lion and mouse isnt really that big

[Kickaha]

No where near the majority. Look up the street stock rules. You're barely allowed to change the bloody oil.

Four stokes you can do carb, cam and pipe modifications

[Drew]

Four stokes you can do carb, cam and pipe modificationsThis is the class that Billy pushed for yeah?

[Kickaha]

This is the class that Billy pushed for yeah?

No, he had no interest in it

[Drew]

No, he had no interest in itIgnore me then. Infact, that should be everyone's default setting anyway.

[speedpro]

done & done

[Buckets4Me]

While Buckets in SS would be/is fun I agree with Drew. If I was a SS rider i would be dead against it. .

they screwed up enough of our races at Taupo so fairs fair

[Yow Ling]

If you guys are keen on a street race , come down to greymouth for Labour weekend, entry is still open, $120 entry fee, can enter in 2 classes extra classes after that are $25. Buckets are usually full class 30 or so bikes, pretty flash track. Stay at the top 10 for $20, pizza for tea, its great

[Drew]

If you guys are keen on a street race , come down to greymouth for Labour weekend, entry is still open, $120 entry fee, can enter in 2 classes extra classes after that are $25. Buckets are usually full class 30 or so bikes, pretty flash track. Stay at the top 10 for $20, pizza for tea, its great

Bloody hell, that's a cheap day for a street race.

[Kickaha]

Bloody hell, that's a cheap day for a street race.

Thats because we have all the best shit down here, it's a better meeting to race at than Wanganui too

[Drew]

Thats because we have all the best shit down here, it's a better meeting to race at than Wanganui tooI've never done Wangas, not a meeting I have ever been barred up about.

Hope to build a bucket good enough to bother turning up to a proper race meeting.

[Yow Ling]

I've never done Wangas, not a meeting I have ever been barred up about.

Hope to build a bucket good enough to bother turning up to a proper race meeting.
Just buy a fxr then

[Duke Stealth]

I've never done Wangas, not a meeting I have ever been barred up about.

Hope to build a bucket good enough to bother turning up to a proper race meeting.

More of a challenge would be getting yourself capable of riding a proper bike for more than five minutes.

[Drew]

More of a challenge would be getting yourself capable of riding a proper bike for more than five minutes.The new chassis is an RGV. Roomy as fuck compared to what you guys all seem to think makes a good race bike.

[F5 Dave]

Actually they use a lot of 250 frames down there, but you're right for your lanky proportions a 250 is the min, maybe try get an old GSXR11 frame?