Post classic/pre 89

[Crasherfromwayback]

Could I use this?

http://rmdmotors.com/1989-yamaha-tz250w-tz250/

[Drew]

Yip! 10 characters

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yip! 10 characters

I've sent them an email. Gorgeous it is.

[Kickaha]

Nice bike, pretty sure I know someone who has one in his shed, I've driven one of those engines in a 250 Superkart

Why dont you get the RS500 instead

[Drew]

I've sent them an email. Gorgeous it is.It's fuckin stunning bro. There's a guy who raced one at vic club, dunno if it was reverse port or not though.

[Katman]

Gorgeous it is.


Nice bike


It's fuckin stunning bro.

You guys are fucking weird.

:wacko:

[Kickaha]

You guys are fucking weird.

:wacko:

Nah it's a proper race bike, not some dressed up shitter street bike

[caseye]

Pete if it spins yer rear wheel then go for it!
Simple as that really.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nice bike, pretty sure I know someone who has one in his shed, I've driven one of those engines in a 250 Superkart

Why dont you get the RS500 instead

Johnny Reid? Way out of my league mate. The 250's I can afford.


You guys are fucking weird.

:wacko:

Thanks! Nothing like a reverse cyl smoker!

[driftn]

Has just worked out what 10 chars means.

[Drew]

Thanks! Nothing like a reverse cyl smoker!I've been dying to revers port one of my bucket motors. The GT wont work though, and the DT has a bent rod so there's no point.


Wanders off to do some research on Luke's gp 125 lump.

[Grumph]

The correct answer is of course, yes, you can use it - but not for long without spares...

There were a couple of W's around - the guy Maxwell ? from Wgtn had one and from memory they ate pistons...
Incidentally,if he ever shows his face in the SI again, Trev Kirby will have him...Kirb supplied a screen for the TZ and is still owed $50.

But yes, they're a nice bike.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The correct answer is of course, yes, you can use it - but not for long without spares...

There were a couple of W's around - the guy Maxwell ? from Wgtn had one and from memory they ate pistons...
Incidentally,if he ever shows his face in the SI again, Trev Kirby will have him...Kirb supplied a screen for the TZ and is still owed $50.

But yes, they're a nice bike.

Maybe Kevin Maxwell? Can't be too hard to use/modify things like YZ125 bits though maybe?

As much as I like the v-twins...there's something sexy about the reverse cyl model I like. Maybe something as simple as the glorious straight chambers...

[Grumph]

Maybe Kevin Maxwell? Can't be too hard to use/modify things like YZ125 bits though maybe?

As much as I like the v-twins...there's something sexy about the reverse cyl model I like. Maybe something as simple as the glorious straight chambers...

maybe something as difficult as the front stand holding the bike up at 45 degrees so that you can get at the carbs....

Whichever Maxwell it was, memory has just kicked in - his nickname was Beaker...last heard of working overseas.

[Crasherfromwayback]

maybe something as difficult as the front stand holding the bike up at 45 degrees so that you can get at the carbs....

Whichever Maxwell it was, memory has just kicked in - his nickname was Beaker...last heard of working overseas.

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[RDjase]

Maybe Kevin Maxwell? Can't be too hard to use/modify things like YZ125 bits though maybe?

As much as I like the v-twins...there's something sexy about the reverse cyl model I like. Maybe something as simple as the glorious straight chambers...

http://cdn.rmdmotors.com/wp-content/themes/rmdmotors/images/image.php?width=600&height=450;&image=http://rmdmotors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tz-250-w-JP-finish-005.jpg

Malcy25 had a one I think

I have wondered if a RZ350 engine could be made to reverse cylinder for a repower, parts are cheap and available for the RZ/Banshee engine

Parts Manuals here, did alot of cross referning numbers while mucking around with 3XV TZR

http://www.rscycles.com/pdf_partsbooks.htm

http://www.pure-2-stroke-spirit.info/

I have got a review of the "New" TZ250w and TZR250 somewhere, will scan it when I find it

[Shorty_925]

This would be up there on the wish list : http://rmdmotors.com/1984-honda-rs750d/

Just read today in Cyclenews, the HD boys arent too happy the Kawi's are winning on the mile.

[RDjase]

This would be up there on the wish list : http://rmdmotors.com/1984-honda-rs750d/

Just read today in Cyclenews, the HD boys arent too happy the Kawi's are winning on the mile.

Bet they dont wave either:lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

This would be up there on the wish list : http://rmdmotors.com/1984-honda-rs750d/

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Yeah I posted that bike up a while ago. I'd love to own it!

[Crasherfromwayback]

[I have got a review of the "New" TZ250w and TZR250 somewhere, will scan it when I find it

Choice. Would love to read it if you do find it!

[pete376403]

looking at the "bikes we've sold" pages. I really like the look of this one. I bought an F9 new in 1972 (not quite the same, though)

[BMWST?]

looking at the "bikes we've sold" pages. I really like the look of this one. I bought an F9 new in 1972 (not quite the same, though)


you would like this (http://rmdmotors.com/1982-kawasaki-kr250/) one then

[Billy]

maybe something as difficult as the front stand holding the bike up at 45 degrees so that you can get at the carbs....

Whichever Maxwell it was, memory has just kicked in - his nickname was Beaker...last heard of working overseas.

That'd be Tony then,Think you'll find he never had a "W" though,He rode BJs "S" for a year and then when his "U" was due to arrive they discovered he had some problem with his eyesight that wasn't gonna get better anytime soon so they pulled out of the deal and JR ended up with it,Still has it in his garage,I'm sure the Chow will fill in anything I missed out

[Grumph]

That'd be Tony then,Think you'll find he never had a "W" though,He rode BJs "S" for a year and then when his "U" was due to arrive they discovered he had some problem with his eyesight that wasn't gonna get better anytime soon so they pulled out of the deal and JR ended up with it,Still has it in his garage,I'm sure the Chow will fill in anything I missed out

Yeah, the chow should know - most of the Wgtn guys seemed to be on his dollar....

I was scrutineering the GP thru that period and I'm pretty sure Beaker presented a reverse cylinder TZ - but we only ever saw him down here for the Nats so I've no idea if it was a one off ride..
I assume you're referring to BJ's eyesight ? Beaker's eyesight problem was having to keep an eye out for people he owed money to...

[malcy25]

Loved my rev cylinder. Just can't keep everything.:weep:

parts, not so hard (www.accu-products.com and the usual 2 stroke guys). Some parts are being remade and there are other alternatives too. Things like pistons, if you recut heads, the later pistons are a good upgrade I hear.

RDjase. Wash your mouth out about putting an RZ motor in there.....

[bistard]

Could I use this?

http://rmdmotors.com/1989-yamaha-tz250w-tz250/

Awesome bike Pete, but Gary would never give you time off to ride the thing

[RDjase]

Loved my rev cylinder. Just can't keep everything.:weep:


RDjase. Wash your mouth out about putting an RZ motor in there.....

RZ would only be a alterative if TZ parts were made of unobtanium, Good there still available.
From memeory going thru those parts manuals alot of parts were the same between the earlier TZ s an t model, crank wise anyway. My 1KT/2XT TZR250 has a TZ crank


http://cdn.rmdmotors.com/wp-content/themes/rmdmotors/images/image.php?width=600&height=450;&image=http://rmdmotors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/DSC09229.jpg

http://rmdmotors.com/1986-yamaha-tz250s-roller-tz250/


Would be a awesome RZ repower

[gammaguy]

RZ would only be a alterative if TZ parts were made of unobtanium, Good there still available.
From memeory going thru those parts manuals alot of parts were the same between the earlier TZ s an t model, crank wise anyway. My 1KT/2XT TZR250 has a TZ crank




http://rmdmotors.com/1986-yamaha-tz250s-roller-tz250/


Would be a awesome RZ repower


So If your TZR has the 2XT bits i am assuming it has the bigger reeds and inlets and carbs that were peculiar to the 2XT model?

By the way all the reverse cylinder TZR/TZ motors were hard on... umm....hardware.but the rule of candles applies as usual:cool:

Last I heard there are still a few A model TZ's lying around sheds in shakeytown.

and parts for the reverse models(road and track)are still readily available from Japan

[RDjase]

So If your TZR has the 2XT bits i am assuming it has the bigger reeds and inlets and carbs that were peculiar to the 2XT model?

By the way all the reverse cylinder TZR/TZ motors were hard on... umm....hardware.but the rule of candles applies as usual:cool:

Last I heard there are still a few A model TZ's lying around sheds in shakeytown.

and parts for the reverse models(road and track)are still readily available from Japan

Yep, 2XT heaps different. 8 petal reed blocks, nikisol cylinders, ignition and ypvs controler, wider wheels, rear shock, carbs............ The rods have ??? (cant remember off hand) on them and it came up a TZ125 code.

All the reverse cylinder bikes look so great, wonder why the were hard on parts

[HenryDorsetCase]

This would be up there on the wish list : http://rmdmotors.com/1984-honda-rs750d/

Just read today in Cyclenews, the HD boys arent too happy the Kawi's are winning on the mile.

price on request.

how much, you reckon?

also they have the best looking motorbike ever made, as ridden by the most stylish rider.

I have a model of the NS500R on my desk. and one at home.

http://rmdmotors.com/freddie-spencers-ns500-nsr250/


when I win the Powerball, Ima get on a plane. If its over $20Mill, I'll shout you a trip Pete, and buy the TZ for you since its your birthday.

[jellywrestler]

Johnny Reid? Way out of my league mate. The 250's I can afford.

johnny's still got his bike too

[Crasherfromwayback]

johnny's still got his bike too

Yeah what a blast from the past he is! He popped into the shop a few weeks back. He hasn't changed one bit from when I used to dribble all over his and Mike Webbs TZ's! He told me he still has his TZ tucked away.

[The Chow]

That'd be Tony then,Think you'll find he never had a "W" though,He rode BJs "S" for a year and then when his "U" was due to arrive they discovered he had some problem with his eyesight that wasn't gonna get better anytime soon so they pulled out of the deal and JR ended up with it,Still has it in his garage,I'm sure the Chow will fill in anything I missed out

The truth. The TZ250S was Brent's that he took to Europe. Myself . Beaker and Peter Daniel went thirds in it when we bought from the Jones. (note to self what was i thinking back then never go partnership with ownership of a racing motorcycle). Beaker kept crashing after he had an accident running up the back of Nathan Spargo at Manfeild. Beakers eye problem was much later diagnosed as a result of that crash. Beaker and I had a parting of the ways , which was a bit bitter at the time. The reverse U model that we order was $30,000! new . The resulting spliting of the partnership and the stock market crash , marriage break up and what ever else caused us to back out(in other words no $$$$). Luckierly John Reid came along and bought the bike from Mollers and him and mechanic Chris Evans had a fair few seasons out of it and as I under stand it still has it. That was the only New U Model imported at the time. Any others were imports.By the way the TZ250S is still alive and kicking as is owned by Andrew McLaren and is raced in some North Island events.

Beaker raced for a while afterwards and went overseas as a mechanic and last I heard (2000) was living in Auckland.

Cheers

[The Chow]

The truth. The TZ250S was Brent's that he took to Europe. Myself . Beaker and Peter Daniel went thirds in it when we bought from the Jones. (note to self what was i thinking back then never go partnership with ownership of a racing motorcycle). Beaker kept crashing after he had an accident running up the back of Nathan Spargo at Manfeild. Beakers eye problem was much later diagnosed as a result of that crash. Beaker and I had a parting of the ways , which was a bit bitter at the time. The reverse U model that we order was $30,000! new . The resulting spliting of the partnership and the stock market crash , marriage break up and what ever else caused us to back out(in other words no $$$$). Luckierly John Reid came along and bought the bike from Mollers and him and mechanic Chris Evans had a fair few seasons out of it and as I under stand it still has it. That was the only New U Model imported at the time. Any others were imports.By the way the TZ250S is still alive and kicking as is owned by Andrew McLaren and is raced in some North Island events. Eddie Kattenberg took over the riding of the TZ250S , then it was sold , never to be seen again by me till this year.


Cheers
Beaker raced for a while afterwards on an RGV and went overseas as a mechanic for Oscar Rumi's World Superbike Team with Norris Farrow and last I heard (that was in 2000) was living in Auckland.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The truth. The TZ250S was Brent's that he took to Europe. Myself . Beaker and Peter Daniel went thirds in it when we bought from the Jones. (note to self what was i thinking back then never go partnership with ownership of a racing motorcycle). Beaker kept crashing after he had an accident running up the back of Nathan Spargo at Manfeild. Beakers eye problem was much later diagnosed as a result of that crash. Beaker and I had a parting of the ways , which was a bit bitter at the time. The reverse U model that we order was $30,000! new . The resulting spliting of the partnership and the stock market crash , marriage break up and what ever else caused us to back out(in other words no $$$$). Luckierly John Reid came along and bought the bike from Mollers and him and mechanic Chris Evans had a fair few seasons out of it and as I under stand it still has it. That was the only New U Model imported at the time. Any others were imports.By the way the TZ250S is still alive and kicking as is owned by Andrew McLaren and is raced in some North Island events.

Beaker raced for a while afterwards and went overseas as a mechanic and last I heard (2000) was living in Auckland.

Cheers

Choice!

I want another 250 GP bike real bad. Just need to get my shit together finacially. Don't hold your breath for that!

[jellywrestler]

Luckierly John Reid came along and bought the bike from Mollers and him and mechanic Chris Evans had a fair few seasons out of it and as I under stand it still has it. That was the only New U Model imported at the time.

on of the best ever moves I've seen at wanganui was Andrew Stroud riding a big CR honda pass JR on the right hander in the esses and JR passing stroud on the left hander, big CR dirty bike h bars and a little TZ

John brought the TZ back out for the 50th Cemetery Circuit reunion and rode, not even sure what the story is with the 60th reunion and race meeting as to whether JR might have another ride there. he's there more often than not as a spectator

[neil_cb125t]

It's fuckin stunning bro. There's a guy who raced one at vic club, dunno if it was reverse port or not though.

The one that was run was std cly, pretty quick for sure!! light as but tyres were hard to get.

[EcurieSportive]

Yep, 2XT heaps different. 8 petal reed blocks, nikisol cylinders, ignition and ypvs controler, wider wheels, rear shock, carbs............ The rods have ??? (cant remember off hand) on them and it came up a TZ125 code.

All the reverse cylinder bikes look so great, wonder why the were hard on parts

My 'W' was super reliable just occasional piston/rings. The 'A' was harder on things from what I recall - has larger ports amongst other things. Reverse cylinders are unique sound.

Found an old ad from back in the day where I'd tried to sell my mine for $3500ono with loads of spares. Glad no one wanted it! My spares are a tank and wheels short of being a 2nd bike.

I've just ordered a few things from Dennis Trollope in UK and will get back out soon.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Found an old ad from back in the day where I'd tried to sell my mine for $3500ono with loads of spares. .

You're telling me! I gave my 92 RS250 away for $5k way back when. No one wanted them then.
:bye:

[gammaguy]

You're telling me! I gave my 92 RS250 away for $5k way back when. No one wanted them then.
:bye:

There was also a time whEn the RG 500 road bike fitted into that category

I once got offered a lovely one, one lady owner (really) for $5000.:facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

There was also a time whEn the RG 500 road bike fitted into that category

I once got offered a lovely one, one lady owner (really) for $5000.:facepalm:

Yep. If only we'd bought 'em all up. Be doing well now!