BRONZ Slow Paced Social Rides 2012

[Ratti]

Starting Tuesday 2nd October. can't wait!

Supported by BRONZ Wellington Branch and co-ordinated by one of the local committee members, the aims of these rides are as follows:
1. To offer safe on-road time to inexperienced riders.
2. Hazard recognition.
3. Learn how to ride responsibly in a group

During daylight saving hours we gather at 6p.m and depart at 6.30 p.m. The starting location varies depending on the intended route that evening. The routes are largely urban because of time constraints.
Although there are, as yet. no accredited mentors accompanying this ride, all rides have a Lead Rider (LR), senior riders and a tail-end-charlie ( TEC ). These are experienced riders and will look out for learners, assisting should anything go wrong.
Over the 3 years this has been running, we have had a wonderful representative sample of the variety of people attracted to motorcycling. A roll call of riders would show a 15yo lad accompanied by his Grandfather, women aged from 20’s to 40’s, young men and returning riders. Ability of the riders has varied from very nervous first-timers to those who are nearly ready to attempt the Restricted or Full license. This ride would not be able to go ahead without input from experienced riders and these marvellous folk are equally as varied in gender, age and the type of bike they choose to ride.
We have had Andrew Templeton, from Road Safe, come out with us to see what we are about. He gave us the Thumbs Up as being a safe, sensible, organised ride that he is happy to refer his students to.
Any rider ( including returning riders) is welcome to attend the gatherings and enjoy the company.
Although this is supported and sanctioned by BRONZ Wellington, everyone rides at their own risk

The Hutt runs all start from the Avalon Park Duckpond carpark.
Two runs start from the site next to the Kaiwharawhara self service pumps. This is so we don't block truck and trailer access to the pumps.
The Porirua route starts in the carpark at the big gates along from the Police college.

ALL information about these rides is available at www.bronzwellington.org.nz. Click on the link at the bottom of the page and it will take you to our new forum page where you can ask questions.

[Ratti]

yay, first ride went well. Thanks to Jimmy and Paul for taking time out from their schedules to be the senior riders. Although we are not certified mentors, we do our best to keep the learners on the right path and get them home safely.
to the three learners who came along, I hope you enjoyed meeting some other riders. I look forward to seeing you next week.

Starting from the Avalon Park Duckpond, we will be doing the Upper Hutt route.
Routes are here
http://www.bronzwellington.org.nz/95/slow-paced-social-rides/

[BMWST?]

yay, first ride went well. Thanks to Jimmy and Paul for taking time out from their schedules to be the senior riders. Although we are not certified mentors, we do our best to keep the learners on the right path and get them home safely.
to the three learners who came along, I hope you enjoyed meeting some other riders. I look forward to seeing you next week.

Starting from the Avalon Park Duckpond, we will be doing the Upper Hutt route.
Routes are here
http://www.bronzwellington.org.nz/95/slow-paced-social-rides/

​what say the weather is shitty?

[Bald Eagle]

​what say the weather is shitty?

Then you'll know you're in Wellington ;-)

[Ratti]

If it's a howling gale then the ride is off, but if it's pretty average for Welly, then ride on. It's Wellington, we get some nasty weather here and riders have to be able to cope with what gets thrown at them.

Nice to see riders on tuesday. Always happy to answer questions, and pleased to hear some good q & A coming out.

Next weeks ride is doing the Porirua route. Meeting at the Gates into Aotea lagoon park, just up from the Police College

[BMWST?]

If it's a howling gale then the ride is off, but if it's pretty average for Welly, then ride on. It's Wellington, we get some nasty weather here and riders have to be able to cope with what gets thrown at them.

Nice to see riders on tuesday. Always happy to answer questions, and pleased to hear some good q & A coming out.

Next weeks ride is doing the Porirua route. Meeting at the Gates into Aotea lagoon park, just up from the Police College

that will make my arrival a little later than the last couple

[Ratti]

No worries . BE is going to sort it at the gates this week as my work hours wont allow me to get there in time. I'll be waiting at Pauatahanui shop ready to tag onto the end. You could do the same if you like

[Bald Eagle]

Looking like a craker day, see you all at Aotea from 6pm

[GrayWolf]

Yup day off, so I'll mosey on up to Aotea gates... As long as there is some young pup available to help a grumpy old codger on and off his bike?

[oneofsix]

Yup day off, so I'll mosey on up to Aotea gates... As long as there is some young pup available to help a grumpy old codger on and off his bike?

Yeah BE will be there and failing that I will too :scratch: you might be stuck on your bike unless someone else turns up. :dodge:

[Ratti]

Nice to see new faces, welcome along Grey Wolf. Cracker evening out and great to spend some time socialising at the other end..once we'd found parking that is. MIght have to rethink the end point for this route. Any suggestions?

glad that no-one got stuck on their bike, but after my embarrassing fall over in the car park, I had trouble getting back on Henry. Not to worry, home safe and had help to park the Ol'Fella.

Really pleased at the quality of the senior riders, well done chaps.

Look forward to seeing you again next week. remember learners, these rides are for YOU. We will ride at your pace and answer your questions, no such thing as a silly question here.

[Ratti]

I understand there is some confusion about starting points for these rides. It changes from week to week according to where the route is taking us. Please check the schedule so you know where to find us. Darn shame to miss out.

[Bald Eagle]

Looking good for today, see you all at Avalon Duckpond @ 6

[Ratti]

Nice ride and social time afterward. You meet the nicest people on these rides.

[WellyRider]

Awesome ride. Thanks for all the tips guys, really helpful. Will definitely be back. Thanks to Kenny for following me on the ride home.

[BMWST?]

Awesome ride. Thanks for all the tips guys, really helpful. Will definitely be back. Thanks to Kenny for following me on the ride home.

you did well ,thats a tough wee ride for a learner,and i am sure we presented enough information for you to digest for a few weeks if not months!

[Ratti]

Thanks to the Senior riders again for taking out these new riders. Wish I could have got there, but work committments simply didnt allow it this week. Sounds like a good turnout, was a bit of a challenge for a brand new rider that's for sure.
We have a short Mystery Tour by Jimmy from TSS next week. Goodness only knows where that will be! All Slow riders welcome, regardless of experience. BE and I are away at the BRONZ rally this weekend so no sunday slowride, but hoping the agreeable weather will continue and maybe the sunday after that?

Cheers

[WellyRider]

Unfortunately won’t be able to make this weeks ride due to work, but look forward to the round the bays ride in two weeks time. Cheers

[Hawkeye]

Ratti, you need to tidy up the Bronze links. The list shows 'short Hutt' but there isn't any link to where that ride goes. What's the difference between 'Lower Hutt' and 'Short Hutt' :scratch:

[White trash]

Ratti, you need to tidy up the Bronze links. The list shows 'short Hutt' but there isn't any link to where that ride goes. What's the difference between 'Lower Hutt' and 'Short Hutt' :scratch:

"Short Hutt" is meet at the Avalon Duck Pond, then the actual route is "Follow White trash". It used to be to the end of the Eastbourne road but we want to get back to the P&J for the BRONZ meeting a little earlier.

Come along tomorrow and see where this weeks ride goes :D

[Hawkeye]

"Short Hutt" is meet at the Avalon Duck Pond, then the actual route is "Follow White trash". It used to be to the end of the Eastbourne road but we want to get back to the P&J for the BRONZ meeting a little earlier.

Come along tomorrow and see where this weeks ride goes :D

Probably need a note about the start and finish point in the bronze page. It's not clear to those not in the know about those weeks

[Ratti]

As requested by Hawkeye... and for anyone else who hasn't been able to follow the plot :msn-wink:

The Short Hutt Route starts at the Avalon Duckpond ( same as all the Hutt Rides ) and finishes at the BRONZ Wellington Meeting. This is a brief Mystery Tour lead by Jimmy (aka White Trash ) . You will have seen this character chatting to people on the sales floor at TSS.

The actual route will vary from week to week. It's basically a FollowTheLeader deal.

I have added a note on the Forum page at www.bronzwellington.org.nz


Any questions?


Next week will be starting next to the truckstop servo at Kaiwharawhara where we will head up Brooklyn Rd and out to the coast. Senior riders please read the instructions and rider route directions....THIS ROUTE HAS CHANGED FROM LAST YEAR

[Ratti]

Thanks to the senior riders who are coming long on these rides. It's not as easy as you might think. A different set of skills are required and it's not everyone who can handle it. I'm really enjoying the rides this year, getting a great bunch of people along. A good mix of senior and new riders. A range of skill sets and experience and a nice social atmosphere to introduce the new riders to the family of Motorcycling.

Ride schedule at www.bronzwellington.org.nz

Cheers

[k1w33d]

Hey guys/gals. Finally got my licence last weekend. Spent most of my teen years riding various types of bikes but never got around to getting my licence. Kind of hard when you can't get your hands on a road legal bike. So anyway, I'm 36 now and have bought myself a 2004 BMW F650 GS and keen on learning a few skills from some experienced riders as well as meeting some new people. Will be joining BRONZ once my bank account recovers a bit.

[BMWST?]

Hey guys/gals. Finally got my licence last weekend. Spent most of my teen years riding various types of bikes but never got around to getting my licence. Kind of hard when you can't get your hands on a road legal bike. So anyway, I'm 36 now and have bought myself a 2004 BMW F650 GS and keen on learning a few skills from some experienced riders as well as meeting some new people. Will be joining BRONZ once my bank account recovers a bit.

you dont need to be a bronz member to come on these rides...

[oneofsix]

Hey guys/gals. Finally got my licence last weekend. Spent most of my teen years riding various types of bikes but never got around to getting my licence. Kind of hard when you can't get your hands on a road legal bike. So anyway, I'm 36 now and have bought myself a 2004 BMW F650 GS and keen on learning a few skills from some experienced riders as well as meeting some new people. Will be joining BRONZ once my bank account recovers a bit.

Join the rides and think about the membership when and if you are ready. Chances are by joining the rides you will also get a chance to meet some of the BRONZ membership and find out a bit about it, but the main thing is you get a chance to get some good advice and some good riding practice.


you dont need to be a bronz member to come on these rides...

Agreed, have any of the newer riders been BRONZ members? I doubt it, as even some of the senior riders aren't.

[k1w33d]

I'll go down to the duckpond tonight. Hopefully the rain clears. If it is too heavy though I will probably be a no-show.

[k1w33d]

Awesome ride tonight. So glad that I went along. Riding is fun but when your doing it with others who share the passion it is even better. Thanks to the "Senior Riders" who take us out and help out the new riders with safety tips, good riding techniques and group riding etiquette. I will definitely be coming to a few more of these.

[Ratti]

thanks. Always a pleasure to meet someone new.

I'm breaking in a few new lead Riders this year, it's a really hard job and takes a while to get the hang of it. We'll get it sussed tho. The Senior Riders who ride out with the group have been around for a while and know a thing or two. I'd like to think they get as much out of it as the novices.

Hopefully the weather will play ball and we will be able to get some slowpace miles on the open road sometime soon.

Reminder that there is a forum at www.bronzwellington.org.nz where we can plot our takeover of the roads of NZ. You don't have to be a member of BRONZ to join the conversation, but you will need to sign in.

cheers

[Ratti]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8c-vCKegeI



This is one of our routes, hope to be able to post more as they are made. By him posting up above there ^^^^^


Cheers

[VampGirl]

that video is awsome, i sent it to my parents in aussie and they thought it was cool.

good work! A+++

[k1w33d]

that video is awsome, i sent it to my parents in aussie and they thought it was cool.

good work! A+++

I have purged Linux from my laptop so will be getting Google Earth Pro sometime this weekend so will remake the Porirua ride without the trial version watermark. I will also be capturing the SPCA Charity ride tomorrow as well as the rest of the slow rides.

[Bald Eagle]

Awesome work, shame about the Linux though

[supremacy]

Awesome work, shame about the Linux though

+1

Nice video, love the ride around the lagoon on a nice day. Will definitely be joining you guys some time, looking forward to all the pointers!

Scotty

[BMWST?]

see you at Kaiwhara will be a little after 6 prolly closer to 6 30

[k1w33d]

You still coming?

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[Bad Biker]

If it's a howling gale then the ride is off, but if it's pretty average for Welly, then ride on. It's Wellington, we get some nasty weather here and riders have to be able to cope with what gets thrown at them.

Is a ride still happening on 01 January 2013?

Meeting at duckpond about 6pm? :scooter: :ride:

[Bald Eagle]

Yes it is, see you all there.

[Ratti]

Nice to see you again BB. On the road in time for riding season is always a good plan. Was it surgery that put you out for a while?

[Bad Biker]

Nice to see you again BB. On the road in time for riding season is always a good plan. Was it surgery that put you out for a while?

hey Ratti, it is good to be back riding again. had surgery and was in a cast for 6 weeks then a splint for a further 4 weeks unfortunatly came right a little to late for the last ride of 2012.

To top that off I had to go to Alexander with my wife for Christmas therefore haven't had a lot of riding over the past few months, but plan to be there for the first ride of 2013 with my new bike.

see you there1 :2thumbsup :woohoo: :ride: :ride: :ride: :ride: :ride:

[BMWST?]

i can be at the ride of the 1st but wont be at the 8th

[Ratti]

Cool :banana::banana:

Hoping for fine weather..o and to be over hangover by the evening

[Hawkeye]

I may come along tonight. Will decide later (depends on if the bar is open or not :drinknsin)

[Sketchy Snr]

Could be a starter tonight, where are you riding to ???

[Paul in NZ]

Yup - really blustry out today so might not be a great night for a trip over the big hill

[BMWST?]

Could be a starter tonight, where are you riding to ???

01/01/13 Upper Hutt

The Hutt runs all start from the Avalon Park Duckpond carpark.(includes Upper Hutt)

route here

http://goo.gl/maps/MOTYB

we go about 2 k on the gravel road next to the river too

[GrayWolf]

Got tonight off, may just mosey down to the duckpond @ 6pm

[Hawkeye]

Hmmmm!! Wind warning issued earlier today. Gusts up to 65 in the last 15 mins and expected to increase to near gale force by late afternoon.:facepalm:
Certainly aint a day to be heading over the Takas for a pre cruisy night jaunt!

[GrayWolf]

Hmmmm!! Wind warning issued earlier today. Gusts up to 65 in the last 15 mins and expected to increase to near gale force by late afternoon.:facepalm:
!


Severe Wind warning?? Too much Speights over the Xmas, Kenny?

[BMWST?]

Severe Wind warning?? Too much Speights over the Xmas, Kenny?


its quite windy out there.There are kerbside bins blown over all over the place round here.lookin quite overcast.

[Bad Biker]

its quite windy out there.There are kerbside bins blown over all over the place round here.lookin quite overcast.

I got out earlier today and got battered round with some heavy wind gusts. The wind has gotten stronger at my place therefore I think will give the ride a miss tonight and have another go on 08 January 2013. :( :weep: :bye:

[GrayWolf]

Yeh its beginning to look 'grim' alright. I got the brunt of rain and wind on Sunday night riding down from Hastings and crossing the Taka's.... if it carries on, I may also cry off.. There's always tomorrow as I'm off :)

[Sketchy Snr]

Will pass tonight, will try another time.

[Ratti]

I'd have to agree folks. Even tho we don't go anywhere near the 'takas, it's not great out there. Wind is pretty nasty, BE and I will walk down to the Pond just in case anyone turns up. Next week the schedule will carry on as usual.

01/01/13 Upper Hutt
08/01/13 Porirua
15/01/13 Lower Hutt
22/01/13 Makara
29/01/13 Round the Bays
05/02/13 Short Hutt
12/02/13 Upper Hutt
19/02/13 Porirua
26/02/13 Makara
05/03/12 Short Hutt
12/03/13 Round the Bays
19/03/13 Upper Hutt
26/03/13 Porirua

The Hutt runs all start from the Avalon Park Duckpond carpark.
Two runs start from the site next to the Kaiwharawhara self service pumps. This is so we don't block truck and trailer access to the pumps.
The Porirua route starts in the carpark at the big gates along from the Police college.

[Dragon]

Edited read more of the thread

will see you guys at 6 for the Poirua run on Tuesday :)

would love some feedback

I am coming from paraparaumu so hopefully I cam get there on time

[Dragon]

Really hope I'm in the right place even tho I came early I went up to the police college and turned round seeing as I was 100% sure if this was the right place or not and had my front brake lever snap on kw as I pulled over :s just drove about 100m with just the rear brake and engine braking but it wasn't overly fun hopefully someone can suggest a better temp option otherwise ill have to ride it home like this :s

made it home ok cheers to everyone at the ride the advice was really useful and the offers of following me back really are appreciated :) also cheers to the guy on the ducati for rushing home to see if his spare brake lever would fit

[Ratti]

I'd like to think we are friendly bunch. As always, new faces are welcome. Great to see some familiar ones too.
Ride went with no hitches. I try to choose routes that challenge learners without being so hard you get discouraged. Senior riders generally like them too and are happy to give up a bit of time to pootle about with new riders. Good to give something back to a pastime that has given so many years of pleasure.

Look forward to next week. This Sunday BRONZ has a Helluvit Ride. Suitable for slowpaced riders. There will be some senior riders happy to hang out with you on the road. Make yourself known to the co-ordinator and he will sort you out. Details on www.bronzwellington.org.nz

[Bad Biker]

Great ride on Tuesday night and good to be able to get back out on my bike after being laid up since October 2012.

Good to meet some new people and as always a keen starter for next Tuesday.

[Ratti]

good to see you back BB. BIgRed is a better fit than the wee bike you started on. a few k's will sort you out

[Bad Biker]

good to see you back BB. BIgRed is a better fit than the wee bike you started on. a few k's will sort you out

"BigRed" - yer I like that name for my baby. :niceone:

everytime I am out on it it feels better getting use to the touchy throttle and the extra weight, but love my baby. :heart:

[Ratti]

lol, thus speaketh a convert!

Bike namings are an extra charge, I don't do that gratis :msn-wink:

[Bald Eagle]

lol, thus speaketh a convert!

Bike namings are an extra charge, I don't do that gratis :msn-wink:

So what's the bill for the Fat Arsed Bitch then ?

[Ratti]

You'll be paying that one for the rest of your life BE:msn-wink:

[Dragon]

If the weather is the same tomorrow that it is today I will pass on the ride as I already have to commute 110km in the rain so im not overly keen to go for an extra ride in it.

Would be nice to see everyone again but might have to rain check

[Ratti]

I'll be at the Pond. Forecast is for it to lift, ever the optimist!

[Ratti]

It's about time! SUnny evening, ride to Makara. Meeting next to servo at Kaiwharawhara.

Yippee! Cant wait

[BMWST?]

cant take the bike to work tomorrow so as seems usual for the town rides for me i will be closer to 6 30 than 6

[Dragon]

I should be there tonight assuming I can sneak away from work

[BMWST?]

good ride to night somehow..i think i enjoyed not being lead for a bit!

[Flip]

Going to be in Wellywood in a few weeks, if I can I might just tag along. Thats if you dont mind riding with a slow rider.

[BMWST?]

Going to be in Wellywood in a few weeks, if I can I might just tag along. Thats if you dont mind riding with a slow rider.



we quite often have a very new learner so the pace is modest

[Dragon]

Good ride last night was very different riding at that speed in a group, have picked up a few bad habits that I had pointed out so do really appreciate the comments :)

Can't work out if I had been doing it already but from the comments and advice given on leaning into the corners I have been trying to make sure I am doing it right.

Rode home via the haywoods/plimmerton (was to dark for paekok hill) definatly getting quicker via the corners (keeping to the speed limit)

Will see you guys next week :)

[Ratti]

Awesome night out. I continue to be impressed with the calibre of the senior riders. We started the season with all new senior riders, and now that they have been slapped into shape, they are doing well.

Newer riders are fitting together well. There is an art to riding in a group and keeping an eye open for each others safety. it's not easy to learn and takes some application...and maybe a donut or three at half time...many thanks to the nice girls at Donut King in the Mall where I work.

Something to think about folks....

[oneofsix]

donuts! no body mentioned donuts :drool: You'll have plod along on the next ride at this rate. :laugh:

[Ratti]

I'll talk to the Nice Girls again and see if I can arrange more for next week. They were very yummy OO6... BMan ate several and took some home. He be in trouble with Mrs BMan now! Have to arrange something gluten/sugar free for a couple of riders.

[GTRMAN]

I'll talk to the Nice Girls again and see if I can arrange more for next week. They were very yummy OO6... BMan ate several and took some home. He be in trouble with Mrs BMan now! Have to arrange something gluten/sugar free for a couple of riders.


Used to love donuts...

:bye:

[oneofsix]

I'll talk to the Nice Girls again and see if I can arrange more for next week. They were very yummy OO6... BMan ate several and took some home. He be in trouble with Mrs BMan now! Have to arrange something gluten/sugar free for a couple of riders.

The BRONZ site is having some technical difficulties so can't check the calendar, where is next weeks ride?

[Ratti]

Used to love donuts...

:bye:



BMan...you STILL love donuts!

[Ratti]

The BRONZ site is having some technical difficulties so can't check the calendar, where is next weeks ride?

Scroll back on this thread Trev. It's back a page or two

[oneofsix]

Scroll back on this thread Trev. It's back a page or two

Arrh, see I went to the first page and then got lazy :laugh: Now I am certain it is in the thread I will be more diligent.


Post 54 page 4

[Ratti]

BoyLook....never works.

[oneofsix]

BoyLook....never works.

Too true, that's why O is the finder of lost things at home. :laugh:

[BMWST?]

.. BMan ate several and took some home. He be in trouble with Mrs BMan now! .

B man had two but took three home!mrs b man had one and b woman junior had two

[DrDarkMatter]

signing up for this, but wont make it in time for this months ride...

[oneofsix]

signing up for this, but wont make it in time for this months ride...

Rides are weekly. Does this mean you wont be able to make the 19th which is in your backyard so to speak?

[DrDarkMatter]

ah, ok I looked the calender and only saw monthly rides, if one next week I should be able to make it, bike getting a tune up this coming weekend and I need a warrant, so ya if its legal and bike is running then ya man, I will be there with bells on. :Punk:

[Dragon]

ah, ok I looked the calender and only saw monthly rides, if one next week I should be able to make it, bike getting a tune up this coming weekend and I need a warrant, so ya if its legal and bike is running then ya man, I will be there with bells on. :Punk:

GSX250 buddys :p even the same colour hahahahaha

[DrDarkMatter]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats AWESOME! and not even planned lol

going to be working on it all weekend to see if I can get it ready for next week.

I leave for work about the same time as you as well, but I return a lot earlier than you in the evening.

[DrDarkMatter]

I am still on track for this...........I hope lol

I have a warrant appointment in Plimmerton for this coming Friday, god I hope my wife has the bike back together in time lol

I got insurance today, once I get a warrant I can go directly and pay the Rego which is only 1km down the street.

[Ratti]

Upper Hutt run this week...arse, Henry is still at th dr's. O well, you get that with an ol'fella. Hope the ride goes well, meeting at Avalon Duck Pond

[BMWST?]

a small group this week ratio was 1 to 1

[DrDarkMatter]

cool I'm game.

[PaulR]

I wondered where everyone went. Got caught in North bound traffic jam from Terrace Tunnel through to Petone, didn't make it till 6:45 but still followed the route.

[GTRMAN]

Was a good time though :)

[BMWST?]

I wondered where everyone went. Got caught in North bound traffic jam from Terrace Tunnel through to Petone, didn't make it till 6:45 but still followed the route.

we didnt leave Avalon till about 6:55pm.We heard that there was a hold up on the m way.Maybe you passed us when we were on the wee gravel bypass at the north end of harcourt Werry and comes aout att he corner high st taita dr

[DrDarkMatter]

so it looks like next week is "19/03/13 Upper Hutt " meet at Avalon?

[oneofsix]

so it looks like next week is "19/03/13 Upper Hutt " meet at Avalon?

Coffee time. You've jumped ahead a month. Next week is more convenient for you than that. 19/02/13 Poriura, meet at Aotea Lagoon.

[DrDarkMatter]

ah crap, yes indeed, NPBC (never post before coffee) got me, thank you!

[Ratti]

cracker day for an outing. Hoping to have Henry back in time for next tuesday.

[DrDarkMatter]

ya man its a stunner, not too hot not too cool, great day for a ride. :sunny:

Fingers crossed the bike will be ready and fire up tonight and be ready to take for A WOF in the AM.

[Dragon]

ya man its a stunner, not too hot not too cool, great day for a ride. :sunny:

Fingers crossed the bike will be ready and fire up tonight and be ready to take for A WOF in the AM.

what time do you start work?

Im heading past pukura bay about 630-640am if you want to follow me in friday morning :p I find riding with another bike makes the other traffic less daunting as its hard to miss two bikes

Ill be out for this tuesdays ride last week I was in no condition to ride much more then the distance it took me to get home and the week before that I had to help my uncle move so alittle annoyed but never mind

[DrDarkMatter]

what time do you start work?

Im heading past pukura bay about 630-640am if you want to follow me in friday morning :p I find riding with another bike makes the other traffic less daunting as its hard to miss two bikes

Ill be out for this tuesdays ride last week I was in no condition to ride much more then the distance it took me to get home and the week before that I had to help my uncle move so alittle annoyed but never mind

I can meet you at grey st Pukerua Bay at 6:30ish Monday morning ( or the weight station going south)if you like, that would be cool. I would be keen to ride in together as well, I need to get off at The Terrace exit for work when we get to town.

:lol::banana:

ah too bad about this Tuesday mate, I am going up to Raumati Saturday morning as well to get that riding coat and then going riding, somewhere lol

[Dragon]

I can meet you at grey st Pukerua Bay at 6:30ish Monday morning ( or the weight station going south)if you like, that would be cool. I would be keen to ride in together as well, I need to get off at The Terrace exit for work when we get to town.

:lol::banana:

ah too bad about this Tuesday mate, I am going up to Raumati Saturday morning as well to get that riding coat and then going riding, somewhere lol

I should be keen for a ride saturday as well depends what time I wake up however as I have a birthday party to go to friday night :S and ill be leaving the bike in town and picking it up in the morning

Monday shouldnt be an issue ill txt you when I leave my place so you know im on the way, I dont lane split so im happy to go at your pace and I work on manners st so doesnt worry me what offramp I get off at.

[DrDarkMatter]

hahahahahahaha, well I can understand if you are in no mood for a ride Saturday, that's one thing I dont miss is hangovers lol

:Offtopic:

Since I quit smoking a year ago Christmas I stopped drinking too, I initially just stopped for the beginning of stop smoking but never picked it up again.

if you want to ride Saturday Txt me, if I dont answer immediately it means I am on the bike

cool about monday I will wait to leave until I get a txt.

[DrDarkMatter]

hopefully tomorrow night is as nice as tonight is, for the ride :D:banana:

[DrDarkMatter]

thanks for the ride guys and girls, Nice to meet you all, sorry for the hassle about my chain and thx to Guitarman for following me home, got the chain tightness sorted once I got home.

see you next week I hope

[BMWST?]

sorry i was very late,I was late to leave work then had trouble setting the alarm.The i had to close and lock the gates,then at the top of haywards another biker had run out of gas.....i was just getting ready to transfer some gas from my my tank when a motomart ute stopped...by the time i got to aotea you fellas had gone...

[DrDarkMatter]

good run too, while it lasted for me, had a lose then over tight chain so had to head home earlier than I would have liked but there is always next week :banana::niceone:

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[oneofsix]

Looks like you took a slightly different route last night as I never saw that view on the couple of Porirua rides I made, sorry I missed it.

[Ratti]

Ride routes arnt cast in stone. depends a little on the whims of the Person doing the ride brief. Nice to see riders looking after other riders. that is one of the pluses of being a rider.

[Maha]

Nice time to be at the top of that hill, not often your get a stunner like that one would assume?
Last time I was there, not a breath of wind/blue sky and sunshine.

[Paul in NZ]

Could you see me out in my kayak not catching fish from there???

[Bald Eagle]

Although saw kiw33d on his morning commute and the temp repair had "fallen off"

[oneofsix]

Could you see me out in my kayak not catching fish from there???

Hey Ratti, sounds like the next Porirua ride should end with a fish bbq at Paul's :lol:

[k1w33d]

Oh shit...had it fallen off?:rolleyes:

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[Bad Biker]

Hey Ratti, sounds like the next Porirua ride should end with a fish bbq at Paul's :lol:

I think that is the best idea I have seen on this forum. I second the motion!!!!!



It was a great night for a ride and a great view from the top of the hill.

Good to meet some new people on the ride.

[Ratti]

Could you see me out in my kayak not catching fish from there???

Why, Yes, as a matteroffact, I COULD see you :msn-wink:


SOunds a cracker idea OOS.

[GDOBSSOR]

sorry i was very late,I was late to leave work then had trouble setting the alarm.The i had to close and lock the gates,then at the top of haywards another biker had run out of gas.....i was just getting ready to transfer some gas from my my tank when a motomart ute stopped...by the time i got to aotea you fellas had gone...

I know the feeling... So much bloody drama at work yesterday they were just pulling out of the carpark when I turned up. DrDarkMatter and Maha, those are stunning photos.

[k1w33d]

Only got a couple of photos. Phone died :(

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[BMWST?]

Nice time to be at the top of that hill, not often your get a stunner like that one would assume?
Last time I was there, not a breath of wind/blue sky and sunshine.

dont beleive everything you hear about welly weather.Not unusual up the coast

[Maha]

dont beleive everything you hear about welly weather.Not unusual up the coast

Truth is, everytime we have been in the Wellington region, it has been stunning weather.

[Paul in NZ]

Hey Ratti, sounds like the next Porirua ride should end with a fish bbq at Paul's :lol:

Bah! I'd have to actually catch some sodding fish first. Having started the year in grand form I seem to have lost my fishy mojo...

I have gone from this...(I threw 5 small ones back as well) to - well - not a lot actually... I've been cursed...

But yeah - we should do a BBQ

[Hawkeye]

good run too, while it lasted for me, had a lose then over tight chain so had to head home earlier than I would have liked but there is always next week :banana::niceone:



Hi DrDarkMatter, Sorry about the chain issue. Too slack a chain can have serious consequences. Unfortunately you chain has extreme slack and tight spots so would definitely recommend a replacement.

[Hawkeye]

Looks like you took a slightly different route last night as I never saw that view on the couple of Porirua rides I made, sorry I missed it.


Ride routes arnt cast in stone. depends a little on the whims of the Person doing the ride brief. Nice to see riders looking after other riders. that is one of the pluses of being a rider.

Yeah, It was too nice a night to just do a short run over Airlee Rd so the decision was to run up to the top of the hill and back down and then follow the normal route.
Unfortunaely, due to a delayed stop at the top to sort a chain out, we ended up missing the run over Airlee and just did Grey's Rd to Macca's Mana.

[oneofsix]

Yeah, It was too nice a night to just do a short run over Airlee Rd so the decision was to run up to the top of the hill and back down and then follow the normal route.
Unfortunaely, due to a delayed stop at the top to sort a chain out, we ended up missing the run over Airlee and just did Grey's Rd to Macca's Mana.

Great photos from the top show what a great place it would have been to be on the evening. Pity about the Airlee Rd bit as it includes the village ride but as for the windy road the hill is a good challenge for a fine evening and without the weekend spandex brigade to upset the flow. Good choice. :niceone: Like I said I wish I was there.
Having fixed leaving points and time but flexible route allows for variety and changes to suit conditions so I was complimenting the change.

[Flip]

It was great to meet you guys and girl this week. Ive made it back home so can't make it next week.

[DrDarkMatter]

Hi DrDarkMatter, Sorry about the chain issue. Too slack a chain can have serious consequences. Unfortunately you chain has extreme slack and tight spots so would definitely recommend a replacement.


all good mate, I am sorting out that issue shortly :niceone:

[oneofsix]

all good mate, I am sorting out that issue shortly :niceone:

Wasn't there so didn't see but if your chain does have the tight spots mentioned earlier in the thread I would suggest looking at the sprockets as well. A real annoyance to replace a chain and have its life halved by worn sprockets.

[DrDarkMatter]

Wasn't there so didn't see but if your chain does have the tight spots mentioned earlier in the thread I would suggest looking at the sprockets as well. A real annoyance to replace a chain and have its life halved by worn sprockets.


yup, sorry I should have said that, I am looking at both now, I would replace them all, thanks for reminder though :niceone:

[DrDarkMatter]

:Offtopic:

sorry for off topic
anyone going for a ride this weekend?

anyone want too? lol lol:eek::niceone::banana:

[GTRMAN]

It was great to meet you guys and girl this week. Ive made it back home so can't make it next week.


That's a shame. Was nice to meet you Phil. Hope you had a great ride back home.

[DrDarkMatter]

I see tomorrows run is Makara, where is the meeting point for this? I did not see it on the bronze ride site.

I hope this is not a NPBC (never post before coffee) thing lol lol

[Bald Eagle]

I see tomorrows run is Makara, where is the meeting point for this? I did not see it on the bronze ride site.

I hope this is not a NPBC (never post before coffee) thing lol lol

Meeting point is here : http://goo.gl/maps/aASaN.

[DrDarkMatter]

muchos gracias senor

[Bald Eagle]

OK folks looks like a stunning day for it again.

Update Ratti will not be there - she's out of town at the moment.
Baldy will not be there - my bikes out of town at the moment (see above)
Byron should be there to lead you around and Paul S should be there but may be running late.

[DrDarkMatter]

ah ok, I will be there, Dragon is still up in the air apparently.

[GTRMAN]

OK folks looks like a stunning day for it again.

Update Ratti will not be there - she's out of town at the moment.
Baldy will not be there - my bikes out of town at the moment (see above)
Byron should be there to lead you around and Paul S should be there but may be running late.

I'll be there...

[Dragon]

IF my headache is gone by the time I leave work I'll fill the tank and come otherwise ill head straight home, but think ill make an apperance

[BMWST?]

just been given another job to do,looks like i am out unless something unheard of happens

[k1w33d]

I'll be there.

[DrDarkMatter]

Another great time tonight, awesome ride, awesome people, epic weather, cant wait till next week :)

thank you to the guys to looked after us and organized it all.

[DrDarkMatter]

no, I dont know what it looks like there is a haze in the air in these photos lol lol

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[k1w33d]

Here's another photo from before the ride.
:D

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[DrDarkMatter]

nice man, we certainly got a lot of attention all of us sitting there lol

[Ratti]

OK folks looks like a stunning day for it again.

Update Ratti will not be there - she's out of town at the moment.
Baldy will not be there - my bikes out of town at the moment (see above)
Byron should be there to lead you around and Paul S should be there but may be running late.

Thanks Baldy. The FatArsed Bitch went well, a little over 1500 k's covered, only some of them twice!

[QUOTE=DrDarkMatter;1130506949]Another great time tonight, awesome ride, awesome people, epic weather, cant wait till next week :)

thank you to the guys to looked after us and organized it all.

Nice work team. Keep it up. Sadly we still have only one bike between 2 riders, considering it's BE's bike an'all, it's only fair that he gets to ride out on Tuesday night. I'm sure you will have a good time.

[Dragon]

I should be out tomorrow assuming weather is good

Wondering when my membership stuff will arrive ;)

Might be alittle late due to traffic from town but ive started splitting again so will see how long it takes me :s

[BMWST?]

out again sorry i have stupidly let the warrant expire..only clicked when i couldnt relicense online.

[DrDarkMatter]

I will be there tonight...

[oneofsix]

I intend to be there two ...

[Bald Eagle]

will be there might be a few mins late, need to refuel on the way.

[blackdog]

I shoulda thought earlier. Ratti is welcome to take the K75 anytime for a ride.

[BuckBuck#1]

Was a pleasure to drop in at the Avalon Duckpond tonight and see the BRONZ organisation lead tonight's ride program. A good pre-ride briefing and brief discussion of the route and potential hazards.

I went digging back into my blogg and found the following entry:


A Review The End Of Daylight Saving 2009-2010 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/1445-A-Review-The-End-Of-Daylight-Saving-2009-2010?bt=2270)

Well done BRONZ for your efforts these past three years.

(Since autumn 2010 there have been a few more bikes, and up around 100,000km travelled since 2006.)

Regards
BB#1

[DrDarkMatter]

Great ride last night, I had never been out that far in wianuwi, great fun, great people, cant wait for the next one.

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[tristania]

^ Cool pics :) Was a good ride last night, I usually feel nervous in groups but this was nice and relaxed.

[DrDarkMatter]

lol thanks , it was really good fun aye? I made a boo boo last night about not stopping for riders but its all about learning aye :yes:

cant wait for the next one...

it was a tad chilly going home over haywards last night lol :cold:

[oneofsix]

^ Cool pics :) Was a good ride last night, I usually feel nervous in groups but this was nice and relaxed.

Geez that avatar doesn't go with the bike :laugh: I have to make more of these rides, even for an oldie like me they are great, new roads, new lessons, new faces.

[tristania]

Geez that avatar doesn't go with the bike :laugh:

LOL It's Iron Maiden which goes with everything! :headbang:

[oneofsix]

LOL It's Iron Maiden which goes with everything! :headbang:

I'll concede that point. Just the way you look at I guess.

[DrDarkMatter]

hahahahahaha Ironmaiden, thats a blast from the last, I dont remember most of those concerts but thats another story.

anyway, I am just wondering and thinking out loud.

Maybe we should have more than one stop to regroup, especially for larger groups like we had last night.

so instead of just stopping half way to have a break and regroup, we could have a "rolling stop" some where, where we just all pull over and get regrouped, also what about a radio for the leader and tail end charlie to be able to talk. so if we pulled over for a regroup the leader could contact tail end charlie and make sure everyone was together because I am sure it would be difficult for the leader to see all the way to the back, I know I would find it that way.

[GTRMAN]

hahahahahaha Ironmaiden, thats a blast from the last, I dont remember most of those concerts but thats another story.

anyway, I am just wondering and thinking out loud.

Maybe we should have more than one stop to regroup, especially for larger groups like we had last night.

so instead of just stopping half way to have a break and regroup, we could have a "rolling stop" some where, where we just all pull over and get regrouped, also what about a radio for the leader and tail end charlie to be able to talk. so if we pulled over for a regroup the leader could contact tail end charlie and make sure everyone was together because I am sure it would be difficult for the leader to see all the way to the back, I know I would find it that way.


Not bad ideas at all, though if we all work to the "I can't see the rider behind me, I will pull over and wait for them" methodology then the group doesn't get split up, and no one gets left behind. I'm all for comms etc as anyone who knows me will attest, but generally the simplest method is the best.

[DrDarkMatter]

yip I agree, KISS is best for sure. My concern was that we would all get strung along a long line and pull over at different places and end up all over the place. so if I had pulled over (as I should have) then oneofsix who was in front me might have been watching something in front of him was watching the road and so at some point looked behind and was I was not there and pulled over and so on and so on we potentially would get very strung out over a long stretch of road by the time it reached the leader. then we would all have to turn around and go back to find the stragglers and then turn around again to get back all going the same direction we were traveling in the first place. ya know what I mean?

I am not trying to be difficult or cause problems, I just see some.........issues with the pull over and wait rule, that being we could get strung out over a long stretch and have to potential turn around multiple times on a possibly busy road

I mean I am a new guy here so what do I know, just sayin lol

[oneofsix]

my 2c.
Not being a route I ride, never done the whole thing before especially from the start, OK once on the hill, I was as concerned with retaining sight of where we were going as anything else. Traffic was quite heavy on the Lower Hutt side. I swear when I checked there was another rider between DDM and me as well as a lot of cars. Plenty of cars between me and the Boulie I was following. Next I check and DDM is the rider to my rear and the other bike is behind him, don't know if the other bike was part of the group or not as there were no defined positions except lead and TEC, we all just left as we felt fit and as I was leaving another rider arrived at the venue. Also having to watch for traffic and hazards meant it could be a while before you notice that you can't see the bike behind and then there was the question of was it just traffic between, there were a few times it was just traffic blocking the view and as a senior rider I had more time to look (read study) at the mirrors than an L plater would.

In hind sight I wish I had held up a hand and called a stop once I lost sight of the bike behind DDM but we were on the hill by then and we do have a TEC.

I also saw an issue last night with pulling off in traffic only to have to attempt to rejoin immediately because traffic had temporarily block the view.

For the main group that had managed to get away as a bunch the rear view method would have worked but for those of us that had to filter into the flow the view of the bike ahead and behind was often obstructed until the traffic thinned out and stopping in the early stages would have caused issues in itself, especially for L-platers.

A group pause has worked in the past.

I also see the logic of the rear view thing.

Both together avoids the new rider doubt, the string out etc. Deliberate spreading of seniors who know the routine and with defined hand signals, (fast up = pack stop) through the pack is another possibly for incremental improvement. Balance against going over the top, a hard thing to do.

Like I said, just my 2c worth, as I saw it at the time.

[DrDarkMatter]

my 2c.

In hind sight I wish I had held up a hand and called a stop once I lost sight of the bike behind DDM but we were on the hill by then and we do have a TEC.


Same, cool reply though...

I was thinking along those lines as well.

[Dragon]

Even though we slowed down on the way out last night I backed off the guys more at the front

I was about 3-4 secs behind Nick (Drdarkmatter) I could see him he could see me we then had about a 2-3 second gap between me and the little GN

I was pretty paranoid about keeping the GN within reasonable distance behind me I was still easily able to keep up with the boys in front if I needed to.

Oneofsix you jumping behind the GN seemed a good idea meant it wasn't left to the tec to keep an eye on her.

On the makara run I was 3rd from the back and the two back guys got seperated for alittle from us due to traffic 2-3 carlengths back but because of the set places I wasnt overly worried because tbh sitting on my own at the back doesnt worry me and I knew the 2 behind me would be fine to catch up

Might pay to spend alittle more time and decide who rides where

ie

Group leader
L
R or F
L
F
L
F
Tec

Sort of setup general rule of thumb I thought was go at the slowest riders pace (however I know I get pretty fustrated being stuck behind some people)

So if we are having the slower rider at the back we need someone expirenced or confident for them to follow so they can learn lines better braking etc also means if they drop back the Expirenced rider will slow everyone else down

I could be wrong however this is just my rough take

We should be doing the speed limit or if the conditions arent 100% then 10-15km below that

Ive been finding the slower rides good because it gives me more awareness when riding with other riders in regards to them not riding the same as me.

Nick and myself are starting to realize how each other rides and how much we can push it with each other

Guess it takes time to learn other people in the group

[oneofsix]

you raise a good point, amongst others in there, Dragon. With the late arrival of the little GN, after most of the bikes had in fact left, it was stuck at the back, whereas I am quite confident the rider leader would have preferred it right behind the leader if he had of had the chance, so she set the pace.

[GDOBSSOR]

you raise a good point, amongst others in there, Dragon. With the late arrival of the little GN, after most of the bikes had in fact left, it was stuck at the back, whereas I am quite confident the rider leader would have preferred it right behind the leader if he had of had the chance, so she set the pace.

Sorry about arriving late... Again. I get off work around sixish, so it's like, if I get there, I get there, if I miss out one week, then that's life. Kaiwharawhara is probably not going to be too much of a problem getting there on time, but the Police College and Avalon, I may get there around 6.20-6.30.

[DrDarkMatter]

thats good to know, waiting a few more minutes so we are all together I dont think is going to be an issue for anyone, if it is I would hope they would speak up.

I know for me its all fine

[oneofsix]

Sorry about arriving late... Again. I get off work around sixish, so it's like, if I get there, I get there, if I miss out one week, then that's life. Kaiwharawhara is probably not going to be too much of a problem getting there on time, but the Police College and Avalon, I may get there around 6.20-6.30.

Didn't mean to make you feel guilty. It is a fact, it is what happened and an opportunity to adjust and perhaps improve the rides. A pause would also give a chance to re-arrange to accommodate, another idea as I type.

Back to general discussion.
Another point I am aware of as my pillion just got her L is the differing levels of abilities to be catered for even within the L riders. The day she sat another lady was waiting her turn and whereas me pillion only really rode for the first time on her BHS this other lady owned a HD, so not LAMS approved then, and had been riding for a while, Dragon himself - well he can speak for himself but lets just say not a raw beginner. Therefore some L-platers will be good riders and others will have only just worked out which end faces forward, all have to be safe and enjoy the experience, after all before long I want the lass that pillioned with me riding along with the group as this group is about gaining experience and ability.

[Bad Biker]

Seems to be a lot of discussion over a simple idea?

GTRMAN is correct it is SOOOOOO simple!

If you can’t see the bike in your mirror you find a safe place and pull over and stop!

two things will happen if everything is okay.

1) TEC will bring up the rear and we will re-group

2) LR will turn and ride back to pick up the group to check that there had been no accident.

It’s not rocket science all rider should be constantly checking mirrors regardless of experience or reason.

Obviously pulling over is not always a safe idea, like Makara, Wainui and the hill where there is no shoulder to stop on, so we wait for a safe place to stop.

The idea is to look after each other.

There are always going to be slower riders and learner hence the name “Slow Paced Ride”

Maybe spread the L, R & F riders through the group some more if able but it won't change the issue or rule.

Maybe I am slow but it appears to be a simple idea getting made complicated? :ride:

[DrDarkMatter]

It may very well be that simple but I am asking questions, I am asking to see if maybe there is a better way, there very well may not be but I am just askin..

[GTRMAN]

And there is nothing wrong with questions.

My take on the "keep the rider behind in sight" method is that it ensures everybody on the ride takes responsibility for keeping the group together. That to me is the whole essence of group riding

[Bald Eagle]

Ratti here. Signed in with BE's new widget. Brilliant discussion of a very common dilema in group rides. And one I rant about 5-6 times every season.
zit's really simple.....at a safe place, bloody well pull over and dnmmmmmwait for the riders behind you to catch up. Yes, it means a string of riders at times. Eventually everyone bunches up again & the group continues.
It's not hard and annoys me no end when it doesn't happen. How bloody hard is it to stop and wait ? Doesn't matter if a car or two gets between you and the rider behind you. If you know where the rider is, eventually the car will go away and there you are together again. Simple eh?
On a positive note, open discussion of problems and solutions is a fabulous thing to be seeing here. The mix of abilities is always a challenge for me and the senior riders to deal with. To be fair, I've been co-ordinating these rides for a few years now and used to the half dozen or so questions that come up every season. I've had to break in a completely new team of senior riders this season and have been forced to leave them largely to themselves to sort it out. Huge round of applause to how it's been going guys, tricky business this herding motorcyclists.
I'd rather herd chickens, it's a lot easier.

[oneofsix]

Chickens don't argue back, they just run off in all directions. Umm see your point :laugh:

[DrDarkMatter]

This is not cool, If you are concerned with a riders performance then talk to them or the ride organiser or the senior riders, any of those would be the constructive option. Bagging a learner on KB is just a fast track way to kill whatever confidence they had to start with.

Would you like your riding discussed openly? or would you prefer someone to talk quietly to you about it in the first instance.

Sorry you see it that way, it was not my intention

[DrDarkMatter]

the way I worded it, I would take it as constructive criticism, but that's me judging it and I wrote it, I ended with "lets help her" if I remember correctly.

sigh..........

I dont need this honestly, I just want to ride and have fun.

I will not be making any further comments...

I dont mind the heat but just not worth it, I just want to ride...........

thats it and meet new people who feel the same........

[Bad Biker]

To change the topic!!!!

Who's looking like a starter next Tuesday????

Meet at Kaiwharawhara if my dates are correct. :Offtopic: :woohoo:

[DrDarkMatter]

I am keen.....

in...

[BMWST?]

Ratti here. Signed in with BE's new widget. Brilliant discussion of a very common dilema in group rides. And one I rant about 5-6 times every season.
zit's really simple.....at a safe place, bloody well pull over and dnmmmmmwait for the riders behind you to catch up. Yes, it means a string of riders at times. Eventually everyone bunches up again & the group continues.
It's not hard and annoys me no end when it doesn't happen. How bloody hard is it to stop and wait ? Doesn't matter if a car or two gets between you and the rider behind you. If you know where the rider is, eventually the car will go away and there you are together again. Simple eh?
On a positive note, open discussion of problems and solutions is a fabulous thing to be seeing here. The mix of abilities is always a challenge for me and the senior riders to deal with. To be fair, I've been co-ordinating these rides for a few years now and used to the half dozen or so questions that come up every season. I've had to break in a completely new team of senior riders this season and have been forced to leave them largely to themselves to sort it out. Huge round of applause to how it's been going guys, tricky business this herding motorcyclists.
I'd rather herd chickens, it's a lot easier.

i cant beleive how hard being LR is....i have been riding for a very long time.I think that on the rides where splitting up is likely(like Wainui) a couple of pre agreed stopping places would be good.The lead rider can rarely see the whole line of riders.The tail end charlie should always wear a hi viz..be nice if no one else did or at least a different colour to tec

[Ratti]

[QUOTE=BMWST?;1130511787]i cant beleive how hard being LR is....i have been riding for a very long time.


In the years I've been running these rides, NO-ONE knows how hard it is being LR. It takes a lot of practice to keep a group together, and is a totally different way of thinking about riding. Your mind is on the road condition, who is behind me, how far back is the tail, making sure you are being an exemplar of correct lines...and so the list goes on. It's not easy and there is not a single LR who has not been taken aside by me and asked to change what he is doing. Sometimes gently, sometimes accompanied by a Ratt-slap.

I'd like to remind riders that these rides are specifically aimed at LEARNERS AND THOSE WITH VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE. If you're becoming frustrated with the pace and the controlled nature of the ride, perhaps you need to explore other rides? I know there is a Thursday and Wednesday night blat over the hill that is not controlled and at a much faster pace. I believe leaving the duckpond in Avalon park about 6 or 6.30. Perhaps that might be more comfortable for some of you.

In the meantime...I'm hoping to have Henry back on the road in time for next weeks ride. I look forward to catching up with the new faces I'm seeing on the thread here and seeing the improvement in the less experienced riders. And mostly, having a bit of slowpaced fun.

[DrDarkMatter]

ok this is just getting out of hand, I started this with a question about how things get handled if riders get separated, this was never about pace. Its about rider separation and having the riders strung out over a long stretch of road and then having to regroup and start over again from some given point.

it was me just asking a question about how things are handled and if there was a little better way.

geez.....

[GTRMAN]

ok this is just getting out of hand, I started this with a question about how things get handled if riders get separated, this was never about pace. Its about rider separation and having the riders strung out over a long stretch of road and then having to regroup and start over again from some given point.

it was me just asking a question about how things are handled and if there was a little better way.

geez.....


And your question has been discussed quite a bit, was a very good question :)

The pace thing was raised by someone else.

[Ratti]

the seperation issue is covered on the briefing. Solution was also covered. From what I hear, it simply did not happen.

1. check your mirrors - constantly
2. no-one behind you? Pull over at a safe place and wait.
3. continue until you catch up with the person in front who should also have pulled over and be waiting.


easy eh?

Riders look after other riders. and this is one way we do it. Until you have a handle on the process and apply it, you're not a rider, you are just someone who uses a motorcycle to get from A to B

[DrDarkMatter]

easy eh?



I was not criticizing I was just asking a question...

[Ratti]

a question to which you already had the answer, but had failed to apply it. Just pointing out where you went wrong , so you can think on it and work at applying it

[DrDarkMatter]

a question to which you already had the answer, but had failed to apply it. Just pointing out where you went wrong , so you can think on it and work at applying it


wow, um ok, a bit heavy handed but ok....

[Ratti]

I havn't even started at being heavy handed, just wait till I get you in a headlock and slap the information into you..THAT'S heavy handed:killingme

[DrDarkMatter]

sigh.............

tempting, but I wont bite...

[DrDarkMatter]

sigh, bike is broken atm, Petcock is stuffed, need to find a new one and change the oil as well because its got Petrol in it now.

I dont think I will make the ride, have fun be safe

take pics :D

[Berries]

Petcock is stuffed
Fuck, you Wellingtonians get in to some weird shit.

[DrDarkMatter]

:lol: :eek5: you have no idea :lol:

[DrDarkMatter]

but at the moment its this petcock that is stuffed,

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee375/thumper_nz/WP_000148_zps42ed47d9.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee375/thumper_nz/WP_000147_zpse0e3ed3f.jpg

as opposed to my other...................petcock :lol::killingme

[BMWST?]

still no wof or rego folks so i wont be there.

[DrDarkMatter]

my bike is out of action for 10 days, or as long as it take for that part to arrive from Japan :mad::argh::brick::cry:

[Bad Biker]

Been stuck with a late meeting at work so not much chance of me making it tomorrow

[Hawkeye]

Got to pick up from the airport tonight so I'm a non-starter. Enjoy the ride folks (daylight saving ends in a couple of weeks :weep:)

[GDOBSSOR]

I'll be there... I may be a bit late.

[oneofsix]

I have to miss this one :(

[k1w33d]

I'll be there. Round the bays is the only ride I haven't done this season.

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[Bad Biker]

Sorry to say that I am finished with the bronze slow paced rides for 2013 but have all the intention to return in 2014. :bye:

Unfortunately I had a TIA (Mini Stroke) yesterday therefore I am not allowed to ride or drive for 1 month. :crybaby:

Come Monday 15 April 2013 I will be itching to get out on the bike again for a ride if anyone is interested. :ride: :drinkup: :wings: :clap:

[DrDarkMatter]

oh man, hope you are ok mate, if my bike is running I am always keen to ride with you mate.

[Bad Biker]

oh man, hope you are ok mate, if my bike is running I am always keen to ride with you mate.

I'm all good now.

the 1 month ban shits me but i will be back.

Will send you a PM around 15th April 2013 and catch up for a ride.

[DrDarkMatter]

:scooter::done::yeah:

[Ratti]

Bugger, sorry to hear we wont be seein gyou for the rest of the season. Remember tho, any rider can feel free to arrange a sloride with any other rider. Stay in touch with those of similar ability and enjoy the ride

[BMWST?]

Out again tomorrow sorry still not got the beemer in for a wof

[Dragon]

Not sure if ill make it or not

[GDOBSSOR]

What Dragon said. I think I will make it out for the Porirua ride.

[oneofsix]

Yeah, the drought picked the wrong time to break. I must make special effort to make Porirua but wont make tonight's and not just because of the rain.

[GDOBSSOR]

I must repair my front brake and now my headlight. Any ideas why, when I replaced the bulb a month ago, it's blown again already? I also don't feel so good today. Doc tomorrow!

[DrDarkMatter]

I still dont have my part in from Japan yet.
:mad::ar15::brick::angry2:

[Ratti]

Hey Folk, cancel tonights ride. the roads are disgustingly greasy and given the route tonight has diesal spills, best we leave it till next time. Still...we've had a good run of fine weather

[k1w33d]

:(

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[k1w33d]

For anyone interested, I will be still going down to the duck pond tonight in case anyone shows up. Need practise on disgustingly greasy roads as I commute to work every day on my bike.

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[k1w33d]

Ended up being seven of us tonight, including Andrew Templeton who had one of the guys practising"hero stops" and "feet up take offs". So after the ride I go back to the duck pond and try them out. Had about a 25% success rate with the hero stops and around 60-70% with feet up departures and 40-50% with feet up, start, depart's :D

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[Ratti]

o.m.g....turn your back for a moment and anything can happen!

[BMWST?]

hero stops? Is that coming to a complete stop,then taking of again without putting your feet down?

[GDOBSSOR]

Ended up being seven of us tonight, including Andrew Templeton who had one of the guys practising"hero stops" and "feet up take offs". So after the ride I go back to the duck pond and try them out. Had about a 25% success rate with the hero stops and around 60-70% with feet up departures and 40-50% with feet up, start, depart's :D

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Would Andrew be able to come out by any chance next week?

[k1w33d]

Hero stops are pulling in to park and kicking down the side-stand, coming to a stop and then dropping on to the stand in one move. I kept trying to drop onto the stand before I had come to a complete stop :o :confused:

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[GTRMAN]

Would Andrew be able to come out by any chance next week?

All these goodies can be had for a small fee at one of his courses....

[GDOBSSOR]

All these goodies can be had for a small fee at one of his courses....

Spoke to Lynne today... fingers crossed, will be on the next skills-based training course.

[BMWST?]

Hero stops are pulling in to park and kicking down the side-stand, coming to a stop and then dropping on to the stand in one move. I kept trying to drop onto the stand before I had come to a complete stop :o :confused:

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you be a real hero if you did that on my bike...the side stand is spring loaded,as soon as you release the weight of the side stand it flick up.It wont stay down unless the bike is leaning on it

[DrDarkMatter]

my part arrived from Japan today, hopefully back on the road this weekend..

[GTRMAN]

my part arrived from Japan today, hopefully back on the road this weekend..

Excellent, BRONZ Easter run on Sunday, 10am at the duck pond in avalon.

[DrDarkMatter]

Excellent, BRONZ Easter run on Sunday, 10am at the duck pond in avalon.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

:headbang::clap::banana::scooter:

[Umpa]

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

:headbang::clap::banana::scooter:

If you bike is fixed, hehe LOL

[DrDarkMatter]

lol lol lol :sweatdrop

[DrDarkMatter]

the bike is back, its running like a new bike!

that fuel petcock system must have been bad when we bought it, because its running better now than it ever did.

like having a new bike.

[DrDarkMatter]

oh man, oneofsix and I got our dates mixed up! gutted we missed it!!!!!! :facepalm::scratch::(:brick::Oops::bash:

[oneofsix]

Are you trying to say we have egg on our faces? :nya:

[DrDarkMatter]

:facepalm:

[Bald Eagle]

Porirua start point tomorrow - last scheduled one for this round of DST - see you all there

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[oneofsix]

Porirua start point tomorrow - last scheduled one for this round of DST - see you all there

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I'll try to get the dates right this time

sent from a Dell keyboard on a Lenovo T400 on a corporate network through a French proxy. :woohoo:

[Bald Eagle]

I'll try to get the dates right this time

sent from a Dell keyboard on a Lenovo T400 on a corporate network through a French proxy. :woohoo:

Can we get frys with that "french" proxy?

[GDOBSSOR]

Can't fucking wait... But will probably be late.

[BMWST?]

i am out again(or is that still).Have mostly enjoyed myself this year.Thanks for the opportunity Ratti

[Hawkeye]

I'm on an airport run at 6:30 so can't make it

[k1w33d]

I'll be there...it's it everybody take your car to work day today or something? Traffic is crazy

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[Ratti]

weee! Box of donuts from Donut King in Queensgate will be accompanying Ratti tonight.....don't start without me folks!

[Bald Eagle]

weee! Box of donuts from Donut King in Queensgate will be accompanying Ratti tonight.....don't start without me folks!

Wouldn't dream of it.

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[k1w33d]

One more Tuesday with saved daylight. Anyone keen for a ride? Was thinking we could do the Upper Hutt ride seeing the last one was cancelled. I'll wait at the duckpond.

[DrDarkMatter]

could been keen, we are getting ready to shift house so it will depend on the boss....

[Ratti]

Good on ya Chris. BRONZ meeting at 7 for us tho, I hardly ever go to them, so better haul Henry's butt to at least one

[Dragon]

Dads in hospital so will depend if he gets out tonight or not if im around

[DrDarkMatter]

Bike is going in the shop this afternoon for the fuel leak issue so wont make it

[BMWST?]

and so a tuesday night slow paced social rider waits....i went past in the car at about 20 past 6..poor Chris was the only one there.

[k1w33d]

It was all good. I ended up doing a couple of layoffs of Harcourt-Werry and the accompanying gravel roads that run alongside it :D

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/02/a3usudeg.jpg The lonely biker...

I'll still try to see if I can garner any interest in doing some shorter rides during the dark months.

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[oneofsix]

I'll still try to see if I can garner any interest in doing some shorter rides during the dark months.



Ratti has a protégé :clap: :woohoo: I'll keep an eye out but can't promise anything, heck I find it hard enough to make the summer rides :lol:

[DrDarkMatter]

I'll keep an eye out but can't promise anything, :lol:

I agree here, if the bike is in good nick and the weather is fine, I am always keen

[tristania]

Bugger, if I wasn't sick and tired I woulda joined that epic Tuesday night ride :( Short night rides would be a good reason to get me through winter this year :)

[GDOBSSOR]

I agree here, if the bike is in good nick and the weather is fine, I am always keen

I second what DDM just said. It's just that, I will have Theatre Group coming up so will try but will not always be up for it. I would have loved to come out yesterday but was attempting my first trip over the Rimutakas. Scary as all hell it was!

[GDOBSSOR]

Dads in hospital so will depend if he gets out tonight or not if im around

Shit, sorry to hear that. I hope your dad gets well soon Alan :/