New bike owner (Nick13)

[Nick13]

Hi people, im new 2 this site and new to bikes. Ive brought a 2008 VL250. Its standard as. Im wondering what i can do 2 change the sound 2 sound better....etc changing exhaust 2 twin pipes or whatever. Any help would be great, cheers: :facepalm:

[FJRider]

Unless you are on a full licence ... LAM's legislation say you cant.

[Nick13]

Whys that? does it give it more power? What do i do 2 change the sound tho? and idea who sells the bits:woohoo:

[FJRider]

Whys that? does it give it more power? What do i do 2 change the sound tho? and idea who sells the bits:woohoo:

If it doesn't change the power to weight ratio ... you can. Most aftermarket ones will by small degree's.( Hardy mind blowing agreed) ... but them's the laws. See your local bike shop

[mossy1200]

Unless you are on a full licence ... LAM's legislation say you cant.

I wouldnt expect a pipe change on this model wouldnt push the power to weight over 150kW/1000kg.

Technically the issue would be if a bike was near the power to weight ratio prior to changes of this type.
I dont think the popo will ask you to test a 250 custom for hp issues.

A ducati 649 monster maybe.

[FJRider]

I wouldnt expect a pipe change on this model wouldnt push the power to weight over 150kW/1000kg.

Technically the issue would be if a bike was near the power to weight ratio prior to changes of this type.
I dont think the popo will ask you to test a 250 custom for hp issues.

A ducati 649 monster maybe.

At no stage are ANY limits to power increases stated. Just ... NO modifications to the power to weight ratio is allowed .... and I doubt if any other intent/meaning by those that drew up the legislation ... exists.

The "No modification" rule is easier to enforce. (Period)

At worst ... a Compliance notice may be issued to confirm LAM's compliance of that motorcycle. (At owners expense to do so)

[mossy1200]

At no stage are ANY limits to power increases stated. Just ... NO modifications to the power to weight ratio is allowed .... and I doubt if any other intent/meaning by those that drew up the legislation ... exists.

The "No modification" rule is easier to enforce. (Period)

At worst ... a Compliance notice may be issued to confirm LAM's compliance of that motorcycle. (At owners expense to do so)

Average non bike riding popo wont know its been changed.
Bike riding popo wont waste his time asking for a custom 250 to be tested.
Keep the original pipes at home would be a option. Just in case it ever comes to needing them to get a LAMS complient warrent of fitness.

Its not to the letter of the law but its not pushing the power to weight ratios.
Every second 250 sport bike is going to have a after market pipe. Especially older inline 4s that the original has rusted out by now.

[Nick13]

Ok cheers, any bike shop would help out right? im sure a little extra power wont hurt as its probably lost power with me on it :laugh:

[Nick13]

Any online shops that u guys no of?:woohoo:

[FJRider]

Average non bike riding popo wont know its been changed.


Average non bike riding popo know rules on speeding and dangerous riding ... which brings you to THEIR attention ....and stops you. The riders actions (after that) then become of great importance (usually) to ANY outcome of the stop that may follow.

Don't give a reason to be stopped ... may be a start.

[James Deuce]

Every second 250 sport bike is going to have a after market pipe. Especially older inline 4s that the original has rusted out by now.
Yamaha and Honda often used stainless headers and collectors and alloy mufflers on their sports 250s and 400s. Normally, the implementation of a new licensing scheme attracts attention.

Be prepared to pay up if you get caught Nick.

[FJRider]

Ok cheers, any bike shop would help out right? im sure a little extra power wont hurt as its probably lost power with me on it :laugh:

You first have to get the bike UP to the manufacturers claimed horsepower .... and if it's a "used" bike ... it will most likely be down a few ponies anyway. (age and abuse does that)

A dyno test isn't as unusual or expensive as it used to be. A recent printout result of such a test may keep plod happy. And give you valuable information on YOUR bikes performance ...

Will at least be to your advantage.

[YellowDog]

1. Remove the CAT, if it has one.
2. Change the OEM air filter for a K&N or something similar.
3. Pop the rivets on your exhaust and start unpacking and drilling holes.

[Akzle]

2. Change the OEM air filter for a K&N or something similar.

K&N let more shit through. might not be a problem, might. something like 97% filterning for a K&N vs 99%+ for stock paper filters... (drill a 2" hole in yer airbox instead)

[haydes55]

K&N let more shit through. might not be a problem, might. something like 97% filterning for a K&N vs 99%+ for stock paper filters... (drill a 2" hole in yer airbox instead)

That's without the filter oil, spray with the proper oil every so often to keep it 99%.

[GrayWolf]

Ok cheers, any bike shop would help out right? im sure a little extra power wont hurt as its probably lost power with me on it :laugh:

Before you go down THIS road.... think on this simple fact, IF you are lucky enough to get say 10% increase in power from an exhaust which is very unlikely... you will hardly notice an extra 3-4 bhp and maybe 1-2ft lbs of torque. Look at expense Vs outcome, you'd be better to leave it standard, ride it for 6-9 months, gain experience, save your money, then look at a 500-650cc which will give you MORE than adequate performance.

But as usual, what does an old bastard who 'knows jack shit' know anyway?

[sootie]

Before you go down THIS road.... think on this simple fact, IF you are lucky enough to get say 10% increase in power from an exhaust which is very unlikely... you will hardly notice an extra 3-4 bhp and maybe 1-2ft lbs of torque. Look at expense Vs outcome, you'd be better to leave it standard, ride it for 6-9 months, gain experience, save your money, then look at a 500-650cc which will give you MORE than adequate performance.
I totally agree with Graywolf.
You will probably also get more money for the bike, and less resistance from prospective buyers, if you are able to sell it in good order with no major modifications on its orginal design. :) :)

[Nick13]

Another question, are the intruder badges on my tank just stuck on? im wanting 2 take them off, and is there paint uner them? i asume there would be tho?..

[Stevee2]

I think OP was talking about changing the exhaust note, not increase in power? Doesn't change the LAMS comments but just a point.

[poll55]

hello mate, any bike shop would help out right?