David Shearer is the man to lead Labour?

[Swoop]

David Shearer is the leader of the labour party, as some of us know.

Rolling Phil Goff (a good public speaker & motorcyclist) for the leadership position, he has stamped his persona on the position and led labour to where it is today.

Another David is right behind him, perhaps with dagger in hand, asserting support but not ruling out the threat of toppling his leader after having a nice christmas holiday break.

Are we in for an entertaining beginning of 2013 in the "red corner"?

[Hitcher]

Like a poll on Kiwi Biker will influence the Labour caucus.

And really, who cares? The Labour Party is visionless and directionless. If the Greens wanted to they could easily make a play for the disgruntled beneficiary vote that Labour stalwarts think is theirs of right.

[puddytat]

Shane Jones.

I agree with Hitcher, the GREENS will become the left wing party of choice....namby pamby middle of the road politics just doesnt cut it no more.Like its pretty hard to see much difference in the 2 major parties what with all the spin & the trade agreements both have signed us up to....

[mashman]

bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Maha]

Shearer is weak, a 21 century version of Bill Rawling, Cunliffe is shady looking and that Parker chap?...well, he really does look like a Thunderbird character...

[pzkpfw]

What's this "Labour" you talk of?

[scumdog]

Like a poll on Kiwi Biker will influence the Labour caucus.

And really, who cares? The Labour Party is visionless and directionless. If the Greens wanted to they could easily make a play for the disgruntled beneficiary vote that Labour stalwarts think is theirs of right.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts too.:yes:

[merv]

Go the Greens.

[Akzle]

uhh.. the whole system is poked. no man is fit to be called a "leader" in politics.

vote akzle for PM!

[willytheekid]

Who cares!

There ALL in it for themselves and there corporate "$mates$", not us "serf's" or the country...the proof?
Easy!...fastest thing to pass a vote is ALWAYS there own pay rise!

...Bought and paid for by corporate "interests", the lot of them! :motu:

[Winston001]

Shearer is weak, a 21 century version of Bill Rawling, Cunliffe is shady looking and that Parker chap?...well, he really does look like a Thunderbird character...

Nicely said. :2thumbsup

[Swoop]

Weirdy there is some sort of press release today. How coincidental.



no man is fit to be called a "leader" in politics.

vote akzle for PM!
Spot the oxymoron?




Shearer is weak, a 21 century version of Bill Rawling...

Do you mean Bill Rowling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Rowling)?

[SPman]

The NZ Labour party.....Shearer is a nice chap, but comes across as a bit of a dweeb! The heirachy are too busy keeping themselves in power to actually form a credible opposition. The MSM report all sorts of fantasies, aimed at keeping Cunliffe away from the front line - probably fed to them by Mallard! Crunch time will come in February. If the current collection of time-servers and over-ambitious incompetents stay in control, write Labour off in 2014 - unless Key sells the All Blacks to Tasmania - that might wake up the sleepy mainstream!

[SMOKEU]

I should be PM. I'll get the country up to scratch, and then the "cleansing" can begin.

[Nova.]

SMOKEU FOR PM :banana:

[puddytat]

Weirdy there is some sort of press release today. How coincidental.



Thats because there's a person working for"them" lurking in the shadows on here....what better place to be watching, to gauge the thoughts of the people of our society than here .We cover the whole spectrum ......

[scumdog]

Thats because there's a person working for"them" lurking in the shadows on here....what better place to be watching, to gauge the thoughts of the people of our society than here .We cover the whole spectrum ......

Well I hope 'they' are not too shattered when they see the KB reaction...

[BoristheBiter]

Weirdy there is some sort of press release today. How coincidental.

Spot the moron?



Found him


I should be PM. I'll get the country up to scratch, and then the "cleansing" can begin.


David Shearer is the leader of the labour party, as some of us know.


You need a "who gives a rats arse" option as that seems to be the consensus of the unwashed masses.

[Motu]

Shearer is weak, a 21 century version of Bill Rawling, Cunliffe is shady looking and that Parker chap?...well, he really does look like a Thunderbird character...

Bill Rowling - I got that Deja Vu too, a weak man inherits, and ripe for back stabbing. Cunliffe will get him in the end. Now that the seats are all swapped in MotoGP, we need more theatre.

[Grizzo]

Go the Greens.

:crazy: I hope that was sarcasm!

[Akzle]

Spot the oxymoron?
i'm not going to lead. i'm going to rule. i'm going to sort all the dipshits out. then the "cleanising" can begin. (it'l be mostly bureaucratic white folk, sorry smokey)


:crazy: I hope that was sarcasm!

no way. i'm green as.

[schrodingers cat]

Spot the oxymoron?



I'm not sure what an oxy is but I can spot the moron

[schrodingers cat]

Spot the oxymoron?



I'm not sure what an oxy is but I can spot the moron


The Labour Party is visionless and directionless.

Plus 1

[Banditbandit]

David Shearer is the leader of the labour party ...and led labour to where it is today.



And just where is that? Well and truly in the shit ...


Like its pretty hard to see much difference in the 2 major parties what with all the spin & the trade agreements both have signed us up to....

Haven't been able to spot the difference for 28 years ... except for the face at the front ...


Who cares!

There ALL in it for themselves and there corporate "$mates$", not us "serf's" or the country...the proof?
Easy!...fastest thing to pass a vote is ALWAYS there own pay rise!

...Bought and paid for by corporate "interests", the lot of them! :motu:

Yup .. that's why most of us don't give a rats arse ..

[BoristheBiter]

Haven't been able to spot the difference for 28 years ... except for the face at the front ...


and the arse at the back.

[Banditbandit]

And sometimes the arse out the front too .

[oldrider]

Why do they need a leader ... they are not going anywhere! :mellow:

[Naki Rat]

Like a poll on Kiwi Biker will influence the Labour caucus.

And really, who cares? The Labour Party is visionless and directionless. If the Greens wanted to they could easily make a play for the disgruntled beneficiary vote that Labour stalwarts think is theirs of right.

All it will take is for National to lose a few seats in the next election, which is very likely under current performance, and the Greens will hold the balance of power in New Zealand. Though if Labour can't get its shit together the Greens might have a shot at being the opposition. When (who ate all the pies) Brownlee is rumoured to have stated (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2538412/business-with-rod-oram.asx) (at about the 12:00 minute mark) in a closed-door meeting that the public won't worry about a bit of environmental degradation once economic growth picks up he is essentially throwing votes to the Greens. Just another indication how much off the mark in terms of public opinion the current government is!

[Winston001]

When (who ate all the pies) Brownlee is rumoured to have stated (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2538412/business-with-rod-oram.asx) that the public won't worry about a bit of environmental degradation once economic growth picks up he is essentially throwing votes to the Greens. Just another indication how much off the mark in terms of public opinion the current government is!

I don't like Brownlee but he's correct. When people are feeling worried about their jobs and their families, they put aside nice lofty ideas like protecting the environment. It is human nature for us to focus on today and let the future sort itself out so in that sense the govt is very much in touch with the people.

You are right about the Greens: they are becoming the official Opposition. Good on them at least they generate some fresh thinking and new ideas.

[slowpoke]

National: people (and corporations) can just help themselves
Labour: want to help the people, but have absolutely no idea how
Greens: fuck the people, it's all about a pretty planet

We are soooooo screwed.............

[mashman]

Why do they need a leader ... they are not going anywhere! :mellow:

Bit like the rest of us... but apparently we still need leaders.


National: people (and corporations) can just help themselves
Labour: want to help the people, but have absolutely no idea how
Greens: fuck the people, it's all about a pretty planet

We are soooooo screwed.............

about sums it up.

[BoristheBiter]

National: people (and corporations) can just help themselves
Labour: want to help the people, but have absolutely no idea how
Greens: fuck the people, it's all about a pretty planet

We are soooooo screwed.............

I think you mean

National: every man for themselves.
Labour: why work when you can get someone else to do it.
Greens: whats work?
Mana: Work is what white people do.
Maori: what are we talking about?

But yes we are so screwed.

[SPman]

Ah well, the seat warming, no talent, apparatchiks still hold sway in the Labour party after yesterdays vote for "confidence" in the leader. Well done MSM for manufacturing a leadership challenge that wasn't actually happening and enabling the hacks like Mallard and co. to bring out the knives! Shearer leading Labour with the current bunch in control is a god send to every other party out there, incl. the nats!

[Road kill]

I should be PM. I'll get the country up to scratch, and then the "cleansing" can begin.

Ya' got my vote.

We can start with all those bloody immigrants living in Christchurch,,,,or is that not the "cleansing" you had in mind:shifty:.

[SMOKEU]

Ya' got my vote.

We can start with all those bloody immigrants living in Christchurch,,,,or is that not the "cleansing" you had in mind:shifty:.

Only certain immigrants. We can start with the snackbars.

[oldrider]

In politics the only bad publicity is no publicity ... this leadership bullshit is a desperate plea for some one to notice that Labour is still there!

Labour is walking backwards to Christmas! :girlfight:

[Swoop]

Labour is walking backwards to Christmas!:girlfight:

Across the Irish Sea...

[oldrider]

:yawn: The first call of any Labour party leader ... "I am their leader ... which way did they go?" :bye: