430 Watts,to no effect.

[Motu]

Coming home tonight a BMW passed me (speeding of course,the Pajero doesn't go over 100kph) and it had both it's rear fog lamps on....wanker thinks I.But at the 80kph restriction at Mercer it appears I am behind Mr Dickhead....so I move up to tailgating distance and put on all my lamps - 60W headlamps on high,100W driving lamps and 55W fog lamps - 430W lighting up the inside of the Beemer like daylight....and,and....they have the sunvisor down!!! ,like,WTF? I dip my beams for oncoming traffic,but then get right on them again...he's pissed off and I get brake tested a few times,but the rear fogs stay on.At Hampton Downs he buggers off fast,still with rear fogs on.

So....I'd say he doesn't know the rear fogs are on....you press a little button on the dash and a picture of a lamp comes on,that means the lights are on,right? So I have proved my method doesn't work,they are going to have to be told - ''your fucking fog lamps are on dickhead!''

Or maybe the cops should start enforcing the new lighting rule that is now in force....for the Force to enforce????

[Ixion]

He probably does not realise what the fog lamps are, what they are for, or the rules on their use.

Not one cage driver in 10 has any idea about them. He just sees a switch that turns lights on. It's night so he should have all his lights on. So he switches them on.

They really are that stupid.

Although I am on the whole very sceptical about the police "dob in" website, this could be a good case for its use. A letter from Mr Plod pointing out his error might just produce results.

[HDTboy]

I turn them off every car I get into and they still don't get it. The newer BMWs turn themselves off every time you switch your lights/car off, which means the morons driving are just pushing buttons for the hell of it. It's one of my pet hates too. I even adjust homos front fogs to point at the ground if I find them switched on.
You Can't Educate Some People

[thehollowmen]

I saw an advert the other day that some of those fog lamps don't turn off!
I think it was BMW, they called them 'visability lights' rather than fog lamps.

[HDTboy]

I saw an advert the other day that some of those fog lamps don't turn off!
I think it was BMW, they called them 'visability lights' rather than fog lamps.
Fuck off, you've been fed misinformation, they're Foglights in all the handbooks I've seen. I've never heard of "visibility lights" and I work as a mechanic at a BMW franchise

[idb]

I thought white lights to the rear were illegal.
Reversing lights are obviously exempt cos they're effectively the forward lights when you're reversing.
I've never seen rear fog lights. What's the point of them?

[HDTboy]

They're red, just like brakelights but switchable for visibility from afar in fog

[idb]

They're red, just like brakelights but switchable for visibility from afar in fog
Thank you.

[scumdog]

Dumbarse probably doesn' know his car has them - or even what they're for is he did.

Track him down and post him an 'imformative' letter.

I guess if you never got his number you're out of luck there though.

[Pixie]

Coming home tonight a BMW passed me (speeding of course,the Pajero doesn't go over 100kph) and it had both it's rear fog lamps on....wanker thinks I.But at the 80kph restriction at Mercer it appears I am behind Mr Dickhead....so I move up to tailgating distance and put on all my lamps - 60W headlamps on high,100W driving lamps and 55W fog lamps - 430W lighting up the inside of the Beemer like daylight....and,and....they have the sunvisor down!!! ,like,WTF? I dip my beams for oncoming traffic,but then get right on them again...he's pissed off and I get brake tested a few times,but the rear fogs stay on.At Hampton Downs he buggers off fast,still with rear fogs on.

So....I'd say he doesn't know the rear fogs are on....you press a little button on the dash and a picture of a lamp comes on,that means the lights are on,right? So I have proved my method doesn't work,they are going to have to be told - ''your fucking fog lamps are on dickhead!''

Or maybe the cops should start enforcing the new lighting rule that is now in force....for the Force to enforce????
You're expecting the prick to be conscious.
I've tried to let a wanker in a boxster know that he was driving in the fast lane of the motorway with his lights off,but he was obviously too intent on his phone call :weird:

[Mooch]

I turn them off every car I get into and they still don't get it. The newer BMWs turn themselves off every time you switch your lights/car off, which means the morons driving are just pushing buttons for the hell of it. It's one of my pet hates too. I even adjust homos front fogs to point at the ground if I find them switched on.
You Can't Educate Some People

I notice this a lot with older BMW drivers, these lights are the same brightness as brake lights so it's harder to tell if they are braking. :weird:
I'd love to go into the local dealership, go to the service counter and instead of seeing BMW clothing catalogues, see some like “REAR FOG LIGHTS and YOU" :Punk:

[Pixie]

He probably does not realise what the fog lamps are, what they are for, or the rules on their use.

Not one cage driver in 10 has any idea about them. He just sees a switch that turns lights on. It's night so he should have all his lights on. So he switches them on.

They really are that stupid.

Although I am on the whole very sceptical about the police "dob in" website, this could be a good case for its use. A letter from Mr Plod pointing out his error might just produce results.
Stupid is right.What about the dicks that put their parking lights on in poor visibility?Don't they see other cars with the parking lights on and realise that they offer next to no additional visibility?
Oops, sorry,Now I'm expecting them to be thinking while at the wheel :oi-grr:

[What?]

... these lights are the same brightness as brake lights so it's harder to tell if they are braking...
Some of them are considerably brighter than brake lights!

[soundbeltfarm]

when i was over seas we used the foggys quite a bit but it was o.k as alot of people used them in the place we were at.
but when not needed most people turned them off.

[thehollowmen]

Fuck off, you've been fed misinformation, they're Foglights in all the handbooks I've seen. I've never heard of "visibility lights" and I work as a mechanic at a BMW franchise

I may be wrong, but it had some sort of black european car and two photos of it in the shadow of a row of trees, one of an older model and the new one with the low down foglights on... and saying something about increased visability and how they always were on.

I might have been wrong with BMW, I'll keep an eye out for the advert again in the tearoom at work.

Then again, the super bright lights on my Vstrom also don't turn off for the same reason, which has caused a few problems.

[stify]

Coming home tonight a BMW passed me (speeding of course,the Pajero doesn't go over 100kph) and it had both it's rear fog lamps on....wanker thinks I.But at the 80kph restriction at Mercer it appears I am behind Mr Dickhead....so I move up to tailgating distance and put on all my lamps - 60W headlamps on high,100W driving lamps and 55W fog lamps - 430W lighting up the inside of the Beemer like daylight....and,and....they have the sunvisor down!!! ,like,WTF? I dip my beams for oncoming traffic,but then get right on them again...he's pissed off and I get brake tested a few times,but the rear fogs stay on.At Hampton Downs he buggers off fast,still with rear fogs on.


duno wots worse,the twit with fogs on (and it pisses me off also) or the twit tailgating and flashing their lights playing silly games cause it's " who's guna be the biggest wanker" time

[merv]

I sure hate people that use their front low lights when their isn't fog in sight. They are low and point pretty well straight into your eyes as you are facing them. They do not light up the road very well except for straight in front of the vehicle so it does piss me off that those using them seem to have no idea when to use them.

In our generally clear skies and not the mists of Europe the bloody things should be banned, likewise the rear ones that make it look like the brake lights are stuck on.

On a clear night on the Wellington motorway they are just a pain in the arse to see ahead as you keep thinking the line is slowing down under brakes.

[Motu]

duno wots worse,the twit with fogs on (and it pisses me off also) or the twit tailgating and flashing their lights playing silly games cause it's " who's guna be the biggest wanker" time

Kinda embarrassing I admit,but it was dark....and I gotta live up to the Pajero name y'know.It's not often a situation like this lands in my lap and I thought I'd see if the sublte hint of flashing lights would work if following a car - it appears not,but of course I knew that before I even tried eh?

[stify]

Kinda embarrassing I admit,but it was dark....and I gotta live up to the Pajero name y'know.It's not often a situation like this lands in my lap and I thought I'd see if the sublte hint of flashing lights would work if following a car - it appears not,but of course I knew that before I even tried eh?

tis a funny thing trying to comunicate with other road users, I like the style some asians were using following me in a heavy line of Auckland traffic a little while back, he got his wife to give me the bird,shake her fist,give i'm guna slice ya throat open kinda signs cause i wouldn't get out of his way....I was on the inside lane...an could not stop laughing at them,this went on for about 15km's

[SPman]

How about the idiots driving around with NO lights on! There are more and more of these nimrods out there. They are so involved in their driving,they fail to even look at their instruments, to, at the very least ascertain what speed they are doing - unless all dash lights are on without other lights, these days!

[scumdog]

How about the idiots driving around with NO lights on! There are more and more of these nimrods out there. They are so involved in their driving,they fail to even look at their instruments, to, at the very least ascertain what speed they are doing - unless all dash lights are on without other lights, these days!

FYI: To my understanding; in later model Jap cars (like last 15 years or so!) if you have no dash lights then there is a good possibility you have no tail-lights because (a) you haven't turned your lights on or (b) the fuse for your tail-lights has blown - see the cunning buggers have rigged dash and tail-lights on the one fuse for that very reason - only the average Kiwi is to duh! or too lazy to fix his dash lights. (probably explains a few of the speeding tickets they get).

"Hyuk, well duh, I couldn't see what speed I was doing 'cos my speedo light is out hyuk hyuk"

"How long has it been out?"

"Aw, about 2-3 months"

"Why haven't you fixed it?"

"Duh, aw, I dunno, hyuk"

"Did you know your tail-lights are also out?"

"Issat royt? I'll gettem fixed assoonass eh, probly th' fuse, it goes now and then"

Argh!!!

[bugjuice]

rear fog lights wind me up something chronic.. and flashing etc gets you no where, cos the only fukin fog around is in between their ears!!!! I think what it is, most of those drivers see 'ooo, foglights..' and possibly think it's the front ones. Then the back flick on, and they don't know about it. And then when you pull along side on the bike, they get all fukin offended!!! wtf?

[scumdog]

rear fog lights wind me up something chronic.. and flashing etc gets you no where, cos the only fukin fog around is in between their ears!!!! I think what it is, most of those drivers see 'ooo, foglights..' and possibly think it's the front ones. Then the back flick on, and they don't know about it. And then when you pull along side on the bike, they get all fukin offended!!! wtf?

Yep bugjuice, I have often imagined that's the reason for the lights been on.

Too many features in a modern car for the average bozo to figure out their proper use.

Luckily for most the steering wheel ain't too complicated eh?

[bugjuice]

Yep bugjuice, I have often imagined that's the reason for the lights been on.

Too many features in a modern car for the average bozo to figure out their proper use.

Luckily for most the steering wheel ain't too complicated eh?
I know a few european flavours of cage have 2-stage fog buttons. The first click for the front, second for front and rear. They probably will never know this. So they'll drive oblivious that and not accept any different.

Personally, I think a lot freak out when they see a windshield in front of them.. let alone a steering wheel and switches..

[Lou Girardin]

Luckily for most the steering wheel ain't too complicated eh?

It might not be complicated, but the tossers still can't use it.