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Shadykiwi
1st January 2013, 00:55
I see no mention of Levi Sherwood in the Halberg awards. He cleans up in the biggest International FMX competition and nothing.. Whats up with New Zealand's inability to accept anyone outside a given few sports. I know we have a number of worthy Olympians pushing for the awards, but I would have thought at least a nomination.

Gremlin
1st January 2013, 01:35
He's automatically discounted as his sport doesn't have a ball and field/court involved.

You sound surprised... :weird:

ktm84mxc
1st January 2013, 07:39
You're on to it Gremlin any time an internal combustion engine is used in the name of sport in NZ forget about any Halberg nom or funding from SPARC.

Woodman
1st January 2013, 07:44
FMX isn't a sport as it is judged by someones opinion. A sport has clear winners and losers by the winner being faster, throwing further, scoring more goals,trys,runs etc.

In saying that, FMX should still be in the Halbergs. Did anyone put his name forward?

scott411
1st January 2013, 11:47
You're on to it Gremlin any time an internal combustion engine is used in the name of sport in NZ forget about any Halberg nom or funding from SPARC.

Katherine Prumm recieved some sparc funding for a few years, so its not impossible,

and when Scott Dixon won the indy 500 he did not get a look in either, so not sure why you are suprised Levi did not get a mention,

Usarka
1st January 2013, 12:47
FMX isn't a sport as it is judged by someones opinion. A sport has clear winners and losers by the winner being faster, throwing further, scoring more goals,trys,runs etc.


Lot's of olympic sports are judged (diving, gymnastics, horse shit to name a couple) and I'm sure if we had a world champ in any of those they'd be up for an award.

In fact Mark Todd won the supreme award back in the 80's....

James Deuce
1st January 2013, 12:52
We do have a world champ in motorsport. GP3 champion Mitch Evans (http://www.gp3series.com/Guide-to/The-Series3/).

Not a single mention.

Woodman
1st January 2013, 13:12
We do have a world champ in motorsport. GP3 champion Mitch Evans (http://www.gp3series.com/Guide-to/The-Series3/).

Not a single mention.

But its not GP1 so is only third grade in reality. Mind you the soccer team won it a couple of years back for not winning the World cup, but for giving it a good try.:brick:

I remember a few years back some journo said that woman shouldn't be eligible because their competitions were not the top grade. His reasoning was that if you put the top womans team against the top mens team then the men would probarbly win therefore the women were not the best.

The Halbergs have become a bit of a farce lately.

James Deuce
1st January 2013, 13:37
But its not GP1 so is only third grade in reality.

I beg your pardon?

The level of his achievement is not "third grade". He won the feeder series for GP2 which has become a feeder series for F1 as much as Moto2 has in the last couple of years for MotoGP. He can't get into F1 without bringing significant (10s of millions of dollars) with him so he has to do the process this way to attract personal sponsorship to get to F1. He's competed against a bunch of people with very big backing, not the slightly large backing he has, and won, not just by winning, but by playing the sort of strategic game these feeder series aren't known for. In other words, he's innately fast, technically skilled, able to work with a largely unknown group of people right off the bat and convert his opportunity into a championship win. Not doing well "for an underfunded Kiwi", he won on the world stage, in his own right. He didn't waste millions of SPARC money to get there either. Or not get there which is usually the case with SPARC funded Kiwi athletes.

There's more money in one round of F1 than in all the Thugby and all the Rowing undertaken in a year, around the globe. The only time F1 is eclipsed in TV viewing figures is The Olympics and The World Cup of Football.

His "third grade" performance is vastly more impressive than anything anyone else has done all year. Unlike most Kiwis he didn't choke when it got hard.

In terms of the Olympics, it's supposed be about individuals competing with each other to see who the best in the world is. Mahe Drysdale's performance was stunning. Anything that needs two or more people to propel a vehicle or kick something needs to be dropped, as does anything defined as a team sport. It would be a good way of reducing costs and highlight individual competition.

Woodman
1st January 2013, 14:29
In terms of the Olympics, it's supposed be about individuals competing with each other to see who the best in the world is. Mahe Drysdale's performance was stunning. Anything that needs two or more people to propel a vehicle or kick something needs to be dropped, as does anything defined as a team sport. It would be a good way of reducing costs and highlight individual competition.

This I agree with you on, the third grade part was more how I think the Halberg people may see it.

SPman
1st January 2013, 21:48
This I agree with you on, the third grade part was more how I think the Halberg people may see it.What do you expect from third rate minds........

unstuck
2nd January 2013, 09:04
Most motorsport personalitys in NZ dont seem to get any sort of public recognition until they are dead.:headbang: