Brainless Broads Babbling Bullshit!

[Headbanger]

Maybe I'm just a paranoid share milker but I'd hate to see what osh and the labour department would do to me if my worker had an accident on one of my bikes and it wasn't up to scratch. They all get training and specifically instructed not to ride any if the bike has not got everything working properly. Plus limited to a top speed of 30kph
Not that that stopped the ball joint snapping while I was going round a corner a while back, some things you cant prepare for and unfortunately you also cant regulate for stupidity (as much as the government seems to try)

The way the system works, is that if there is an incident then you have failed in your duty, No matter what level you have been working at or what systems you have in place, the incident itself is proof of a failure to take all practicable steps to ensure the safety of your workers.

You may get nothing, a formal warning or a trip into court, where it will be on you to prove that you were doing everything you were able to do to meet your legal requirements (even though you failed to do so as proven by the incident...in there eyes.) You can have all the maintenance systems in place, and yet a mechanical failure shows you weren't doing enough. Hence the crippling of some workplaces trying to attain an undefined, vague and imo unattainable criteria.

I'm not defending it, I consider it a poor if not incompetent and lazy stance from the power that be, There should be a defined minimum standard to work to, Instead they just tell you it better not go wrong, and if it does, You're at fault. No matter what you have in place.

Rememeber if its not written down (and signed by all parties) it doesn't exsist.

[Headbanger]

Also the report into the pike river mine disaster report highlights what can happen when the system ignores the concept of a minimum standard and just insists each work places does what they see fit to reach compliance.

Not helped by the fact that the DOL were prepared to see people die before they looked into it.

[Katman]

Not that that stopped the ball joint snapping while I was going round a corner a while back, some things you cant prepare for and unfortunately you also cant regulate for stupidity (as much as the government seems to try)

A ball joint in good condition won't snap from going around a corner.

I'd suggest that the bike wasn't in as good a condition as you're imagining.

[kiwi cowboy]

FUck ... I had a small farm in the North Island hill country ... and a couple of quads on it ... a loaded tank on the rear makes it a very different proposition to a front mounted tank ... I'd prefer it on the front to keep that end of the bike down when going up hills ...

Are you hinting at reversing up the hill ?

Hint hint yep but the two people i challenged to answer deem to have gone quiet.
Maybe they dont know as much as they make out or cant think outside the square.:yawn:

[Katman]

Hint hint yep but the two people i challenged to answer deem to have gone quiet.
Maybe they dont know as much as they make out or cant think outside the square.:yawn:

Why the fuck would I be interested in how to do it?

Like I said, I'm not a farmer.

[Headbanger]

Hint hint yep but the two people i challenged to answer deem to have gone quiet.
Maybe they dont know as much as they make out or cant think outside the square.:yawn:

You got your answer.

Makes no difference to me if you liked it or not (or even comprehended why you got the answer you did).

[kiwi cowboy]

You got your answer.

Makes no difference to me if you liked it or not (or even comprehended why you got the answer you did).

Copouts arnt answers fella but you seem to want to teach every body how to stay safe but when i ask a simple task you cant even come up with an answer and when i hinted i would back it up i was waiting for you to agree or tear me to bits with reasons but you cant so i rest my case.:woohoo:

[kiwi cowboy]

Why the fuck would I be interested in how to do it?

Like I said, I'm not a farmer.

Ok my apolagies katman as you are more talking about the maintanence which is fine and i actualy agree with you on the condition of some quads.:gob::gob:

[Headbanger]

Copouts arnt answers fella but you seem to want to teach every body how to stay safe but when i ask a simple task you cant even come up with an answer and when i hinted i would back it up i was waiting for you to agree or tear me to bits with reasons but you cant so i rest my case.:woohoo:

You don't have a case, You have a failing.

I seriously hope you do in fact operate the level of competence you claim, rather then how you portray yourself.

[kiwi cowboy]

You don't have a case, You have a failing.

I seriously hope you do in fact operate the level of competence you claim, rather then how you portray yourself.

Oh for ffs you talk around in circles and dont actualy give any answers.
Do you have training for this or does it come naturaly?.
You would be a shoe in for any political party cos thats all they do-talk around a question and never give a straight answer so when are you joining them (doest mater which one there all the same).

[scumdog]

Knock-knock, 'scuse me, is this the Headbanger/kiwi cowboy thread???:confused::scratch::whistle::corn:

[Headbanger]

Oh for ffs you talk around in circles and dont actualy give any answers.
Do you have training for this or does it come naturaly?.
You would be a shoe in for any political party cos thats all they do-talk around a question and never give a straight answer so when are you joining them (doest mater which one there all the same).

Lmfao.

My entire axe to grind has been about training the workforce to raise their standard of competence, and hopefully lower the incident rate.Hence my answer was to ensure you had trained and experienced operators and had met your obligations under the health and safety act, I really couldn't give a fuck about your imaginary hill.

[kiwi cowboy]

Knock-knock, 'scuse me, is this the Headbanger/kiwi cowboy thread???:confused::scratch::whistle::corn:

:nya:soowy would you like to join in:motu:

[kiwi cowboy]

Lmfao.

My entire axe to grind has been about training the workforce to raise their standard of competence, and hopefully lower the incident rate.Hence my answer was to ensure you had trained and experienced operators and had met your obligations under the health and safety act, I really couldn't give a fuck about your imaginary hill.

You have an axe to grind well grind away mate and as i have said before on this thread i do actualy agree with training up to a point but you cant hold peoples hand 24-7.

You attacked me because i said i had been to a course years ago and diddnt realy get anything from it as everything they were telling me i had been doing for yearsas part of my competant assesment of situations and taking personal responsibility for my safety.

You still think im some sort of arrogant idiot that cant think for myself and need you to tell me how to run my life.

As for the hill - whats wrong with descussing it as it could be a pre employment question in an interview to help assertain a candidates competance level and what training they may need.

[scumdog]

:nya:soowy would you like to join in:motu:

Not with all them grinding axes a-pinging around th epalce, no sirree Bob!

[bogan]

Not with all them grinding axes a-pinging around th epalce, no sirree Bob!

its alright, they're not very sharp :pinch:

[kiwi cowboy]

Not with all them grinding axes a-pinging around th epalce, no sirree Bob!

Na tis ok headbanger aint allowed ta tro de axes tis against a helf an saftey law somewere.:yes:

[Headbanger]

You still think im some sort of arrogant idiot that cant think for myself and need you to tell me how to run

meh, I think you're a bit of a dick.

That is all. The rest of it is mindless babble coming from you.

Lmfao.

[_Shrek_]

Not with all them grinding axes a-pinging around th epalce, no sirree Bob!

don't panic mr mannering they would have to have a TGM for the SOP etc..... :whistle:

[nakedsv]

A ball joint in good condition won't snap from going around a corner.

I'd suggest that the bike wasn't in as good a condition as you're imagining.

Kind of what I thought too especially since in happened a week after a full service and check over, I'm no mechanicby any means so all my bikes get regular professional serviceing and mantainance.

[Paul in NZ]

Hmm - thats quite a few more than I anticipated

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8165676/1465-kids-hurt-on-quad-bikes-in-4-years

[Banditbandit]

http://imgkk.com/i/r8d5.jpg

[scumdog]

Hmm - thats quite a few more than I anticipated

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8165676/1465-kids-hurt-on-quad-bikes-in-4-years

Yes, I had spotted that this morning.

Now wait for the nay-sayers to deny it...:jerry:

[Paul in NZ]

Yes, I had spotted that this morning.

Now wait for the nay-sayers to deny it...:jerry:

I'm sure a lot of them were very minor injuries... but still...

[Ocean1]

Does put into perspective, 100,000 machines ,(and that's got to be an estimate) most of which are used every day. Wonder how the fatalities per hour compare to road traffic.

[scumdog]

Does put into perspective, 100,000 machines ,(and that's got to be an estimate) most of which are used every day. Wonder how the fatalities per hour compare to road traffic.

A very high amount if you're going by km travelled...

[unstuck]

If it helps you 2 to kiss and make up, I could run a dozer out and level this fuckin hill for ya. Then you could spray on some nice flat ground, and everyone is happy again.:grouphug::love::Punk:

[Ocean1]

A very high amount if you're going by km travelled...

Probably. Are you suggesting they should travel at the same speed?


Amazed me when I was quad hunting, the mileage most of them clock up. 50,000 km is nothing.

[Katman]

"He said "ninety-nine point nine per cent" of farmers were trained in operating quad bikes safely, wore helmets and kept their vehicles properly maintained."

Methinks Federated Farmers president Bruce Wills is talking a load of shit.

[bogan]

"He said "ninety-nine point nine per cent" of farmers were trained in operating quad bikes safely, wore helmets and kept their vehicles properly maintained."

Methinks Federated Farmers president Bruce Wills is talking a load of shit.

Why is there quotes around the 99.9% bit, maybe the reporter put their own interpretation on the words following, cos no way 99.9% of farmers wear helmets :rolleyes: bit of a strecth for the other two criteria too, but those ones are also a question of degree.

[avgas]

Hi-viz will fix it.
I was wearing it on 21/12/2012 - that is why the world didn't end.
PM me for an address to send me money for saving your ass.

[Katman]

Driving around the Central Plateau I get to see a lot of farmers going about their daily routine.

The only people riding farm bikes that I have ever seen wearing helmets are farmhands working on the Landcorp stations.

[kiwi cowboy]

If it helps you 2 to kiss and make up, I could run a dozer out and level this fuckin hill for ya. Then you could spray on some nice flat ground, and everyone is happy again.:grouphug::love::Punk:




wouldnt be any point then unstuck.
If you leveled the hill properly the gorse would be buried way down the bottom so problem solved thanks- job done.

Head banger has me wrong in many respects anyway.
He says i have a failing but my only failing is i can't put into words what i want to say without it sounding fucked up which is why i'm not a office jockey (among other reasons) or a health and saftey expert.

[_Shrek_]

i'm not a office jockey (among other reasons) or health and saftey expert.

just as well Kc, as the definition of expert is X = unknown quantities & spert = drip under presure,

you just thick :whistle:

[kiwi cowboy]

just as well Kc, as the definition of expert is X = unknown quantities & spert = drip under presure,

Heard that before but x = something past its useby date and spert=the drip.



you just thick :whistle:


Ha ha ha you said we were twins before :nya::nya::clap:

[idb]

"He said "ninety-nine point nine per cent" of farmers were trained in operating quad bikes safely, wore helmets and kept their vehicles properly maintained."

Methinks Federated Farmers president Bruce Wills is talking a load of shit.

I love statistics.
Did you know that 6 out of 7 dwarves aren't happy?

[\m/]

"He said "ninety-nine point nine per cent" of farmers were trained in operating quad bikes safely, wore helmets and kept their vehicles properly maintained."

Methinks Federated Farmers president Bruce Wills is talking a load of shit.
You think he's talking a load of shit?
Maybe about 90-95% keep their quads properly maintained, but only a very small minority bother with helmets and training.

[mouldy]

You think he's talking a load of shit?
Maybe about 90-95% keep their quads properly maintained, but only a very small minority bother with helmets and training.

Maintenance is what farmers pay the ex wife , just about every one that comes in for a service needs more then just oil and filter

[awa355]

Argh, on the idiot box news afew minutes ago: "Coming up in th enews; More quadbike death bring calls for more/tougher (can't remember which) regulations"

Riiiiggghht, so how the eff are any tougher regulations ever going to work with these quads and prevent 'accidents'? - wrap the rider in 50kg of bubble-wrap??

Spare me days...:wacko:

Do they have brainless broads on tv???:yes::yes:. I never get past staring at the boobs to actually listen to what they're saying.