Gareth Morgan bored again

[Zedder]

Domestic cats next target:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10860618

[Crasherfromwayback]

Domestic cats next target:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10860618

Seems to want to run NZ these days.

[Banditbandit]

It's a reasonable suggestion - Cats will wipe out a lot of our native birds ... New Zealand as a cat-free zone is worth discussing ... they are just another introduced pest that thrives here ...

[Paul in NZ]

Seems to want to run NZ these days.

Nope - being actually in charge means that you have to deal with a whole lot of business as usual shit which wears you down. He just wants to sit back and snipe at issues without actually taking the responsibility for fixing it or taking the risk to his ego in standing for parliament.

Its a fair enough stance as he can focus on issues BUT it does not actually achieve much...

Cue mad cat people forming a posse on the outskirts....

[bogan]

Haha, the cat that used to live here was affectionately named slug. He was not a threat to the wildlife.

At least he is making those calls from the sideline, and not as the head of SPCA or some shit.

Maybe he would have a leg to stand on if the place was rat, possum, and stoat free, but until those are gone, removing cats isn't going to do shit for wildlife anyway. Need some geneticists to bring back the Haast's Eagle, level the playing feild a bit...

[roogazza]

I couldn't do that to my pussy.

276940

[f2dz]

Damn dog lovers.

[HenryDorsetCase]

it's a reasonable suggestion - cats will wipe out a lot of our native birds ... New zealand as a cat-free zone is worth discussing ... They are just another introduced pest that thrives here ...

you can have my kitty when you take him from my cold dead hands

[HenryDorsetCase]

Haha, the cat that used to live here was affectionately named slug. He was not a threat to the wildlife.

At least he is making those calls from the sideline, and not as the head of SPCA or some shit.

Maybe he would have a leg to stand on if the place was rat, possum, and stoat free, but until those are gone, removing cats isn't going to do shit for wildlife anyway. Need some geneticists to bring back the Haast's Eagle, level the playing feild a bit...

Shit yeah. thats a way cooler thing to do than reintroduce the Neanderthal. I mean, as so many have pointed out, its not that big of a deal as there are heaps of them around already.

[bogan]

Shit yeah. thats a way cooler thing to do than reintroduce the Neanderthal. I mean, as so many have pointed out, its not that big of a deal as there are heaps of them around already.

And there might be a few less if the Haast came back :whistle:

[Zedder]

It's a reasonable suggestion - Cats will wipe out a lot of our native birds ... New Zealand as a cat-free zone is worth discussing ... they are just another introduced pest that thrives here ...

Bob Kerridge from the SPCA reckons "very few native birds fall at the hand (should be paw, lol) of cats, domestic cats".

Killing a few of the introduced species of birds would be very good though.

[SMOKEU]

Gareth Morgan is a fucking retarded piece of shit if he thinks that wiping out domestic cats is going to achieve a "clean, green image". He deserves a good smack in the head for his stupidity alone. Does anyone here know where he lives?

[Banditbandit]

Bob Kerridge from the SPCA reckons "very few native birds fall at the hand (should be paw, lol) of cats, domestic cats".

Killing a few of the introduced species of birds would be very good though.


Bob Kerridge is wrong - and he's another one of those introduced pests that thrive in New Zealand ...

[imdying]

That cunt is a very special waste of skin. The list of people who I'd leave to die at a motorcycle accident scene is very small indeed, but he's right on up there.

[Banditbandit]

you can have my kitty when you take him from my cold dead hands

You expect the cat to outlive you ??? (Oh - hang about - you wrote of a TNAB ... )

[bogan]

Bob Kerridge is wrong - and he's another one of those introduced pests that thrive in New Zealand ...

Care to provide some numbers to correct him then?

[lakedaemonian]

I've shot my share of feral cats....I was surprised I could shoot so many(4-5 I think it was) in the back blocks of Molesworth Station on a single trip so far from people.

What pisses me off to no end is that while society feels I am responsible for my dog's poo(rightly so) there appears to be no equal responsibility for a cat owner to police the poo of his/her cat.

Considering the fact that cat poo can transmit disease, I reckon it's not an insignificant health hazard.

But it's perfectly OK for cat owners to leave their cats out of the house 99% of the time to sh!t anywhere and everywhere.

Keeping chooks at home can be a problem with neighbours cats about.

If a local cat took my wife/kids chooks(and they try periodically), then I'd be setting up the tuna flavoured possum trap on my property.

[Murray]

If he doesn't like cats why has he got such a pussy football/soccer team.

Complete and utter tosser

[HenryDorsetCase]

That cunt is a very special waste of skin. The list of people who I'd leave to die at a motorcycle accident scene is very small indeed, but he's right on up there.

Kerridge or Gubba?

[Paul in NZ]

That cunt is a very special waste of skin. The list of people who I'd leave to die at a motorcycle accident scene is very small indeed, but he's right on up there.

Ouch - thats cold....

Look you may not agree with him but he haS A POINT WORTH DISCUSSING. (argh I HAte Caps LoCK)

[mashman]

If a local cat took my wife/kids chooks(and they try periodically), then I'd be setting up the tuna flavoured possum trap on my property.

Is that how she caught you? :shifty:

[Zedder]

I've shot my share of feral cats....I was surprised I could shoot so many(4-5 I think it was) in the back blocks of Molesworth Station on a single trip so far from people.

What pisses me off to no end is that while society feels I am responsible for my dog's poo(rightly so) there appears to be no equal responsibility for a cat owner to police the poo of his/her cat.

Considering the fact that cat poo can transmit disease, I reckon it's not an insignificant health hazard.

But it's perfectly OK for cat owners to leave their cats out of the house 99% of the time to sh!t anywhere and everywhere.

Keeping chooks at home can be a problem with neighbours cats about.

If a local cat took my wife/kids chooks(and they try periodically), then I'd be setting up the tuna flavoured possum trap on my property.

Yeah, there's quite a few feral cats out there apparently. From what I understand, they get abandoned by uncaring owners etc.

I thought cats usually buried their crap? The chooks I've seen around cats hassle the furry buggers lol.

[bogan]

Yeah, there's quite a few feral cats out there apparently. From what I understand, they get abandoned by uncaring owners etc.

I thought cats usually buried their crap? The chooks I've seen around cats hassle the furry buggers lol.

Thanks man, covered pretty much all I was about to write.

By all means call for neutering to reduce the amount of abandoned strays and feral cats, but calling for them to be gone altogether is a bit of a drastic way to counter only a small part of the problem.

[Banditbandit]

Care to provide some numbers to correct him then?

Don't need numbers ... cats kill endangered native birds ... and assist to make them extinct ...

And yeah .. I have pet cats .. and yeah ... I shoot ferals (also swerve for possums)

[bogan]

Don't need numbers ... cats kill endangered native birds ... and assist to make them extinct ...

And yeah .. I have pet cats .. and yeah ... I shoot ferals (also swerve for possums)

But his only assertion is that they kill very few, you'd need numbers to prove its more than a few...

[Banditbandit]

But his only assertion is that they kill very few, you'd need numbers to prove its more than a few...

Why ???? There are only a few kiwi around ... cats will have an impact ... you get hung up on other people's shit ... I won't buy into Kerridge's bullshit ...

Kerridge is saying we should not get rid of cats because they ony kill a few native birds - I'm saying cats kill native birds - don't give a fuck how many - cats kill native birds, let's get rid of cats ...

What no-one is actually suggesting is how and when ... and everyoen is acting as if we go out and kill all cats tomorrow!

I suggest that we try to exterminate ALL feral cats (take quite a number of years .. they've never managed it with the deer population) and at the same time neuter ALL domestic cats so they don't breed - and outlaw any new cats from January 1, 2015.

Given the life epectancy of cats we should see the cat population start to decrease around 2030.

[SMOKEU]

Don't need numbers ... cats kill endangered native birds ... and assist to make them extinct ...



Remind me again who was responsible for wiping out the Moa and Haast Eagle...

[Banditbandit]

Remind me again who was responsible for wiping out the Moa and Haast Eagle...

Is that another imported pest thriving here in ChCh I hear ???

Who killed the moa??? Human beings ???? (Haast Eagle was a result of the loss of the Moa - an indirect impact ... and by the way, did you know Haast Eagles attacked human beings?)

And yeah, we can admit a fuck up ... (bit late to correct it tho' .. not too late for kiwis and other birds if we get rid of cats and other pests)

[bogan]

Why ???? There are only a few kiwi around ... cats will have an impact ... you get hung up on other people's shit ... I won't buy into Kerridge's bullshit ...

Kerridge is saying we should not get rid of cats because they ony kill a few native birds - I'm saying cats kill native birds - don't give a fuck how many - cats kill native birds, let's get rid of cats ....

So do dogs, humans, vehicles, and other human technology. Guess we all have to go to then huh? You lead the way eh!

[Banditbandit]

So do dogs, humans, vehicles, and other human technology. Guess we all have to go to then huh? You lead the way eh!

Yeah .. If I was honest - I'm a complete Luddite ... I'd be happy to go back a few hundred years and live wthout the bullshit technology ... and live with quite a lot les human beings too (I have a list of people to exterminate ... ) .. but I think natural selection and natural stupidity would decrease the population quite quickly ...

[bogan]

Yeah .. If I was honest - I'm a complete Luddite ... I'd be happy to go back a few hundred years and live wthout the bullshit technology ... and live with quite a lot les human beings too (I have a list of people to exterminate ... ) .. but I think natural selection and natural stupidity would decrease the population quite quickly ...

Sorry thats not good eonugh, other humans have killed native birds, changing your ways is no longer an option, you have to leave. You see whats wrong with trying to have such a binary viewpoint yet?

[Zedder]

Thanks man, covered pretty much all I was about to write.

By all means call for neutering to reduce the amount of abandoned strays and feral cats, but calling for them to be gone altogether is a bit of a drastic way to counter only a small part of the problem.

I like all animals (except introduced pests) but we always used to get a laugh when the arrogant cats used to come over and try to take on the chooks.

Yep. Bizzarely enough, in the middle ages, pure black cats were pretty much wiped out because they were seen as "evil" due to their association with "witches" ffs.

[SMOKEU]

We should wipe out humans too, because that species has a far greater impact on the environment than any other animal species. Selfish, greedy cunts with their toxic chemicals being released into the environment and mass habitat destruction.

[p.dath]

It's a reasonable suggestion - Cats will wipe out a lot of our native birds ... New Zealand as a cat-free zone is worth discussing ... they are just another introduced pest that thrives here ...

How do you plan to kill all the pests that the cats kill, which would otherwise cause a worse problem?

[Banditbandit]

Sorry thats not good eonugh, other humans have killed native birds, changing your ways is no longer an option, you have to leave. You see whats wrong with trying to have such a binary viewpoint yet?

OFFS - you expect consistency in KB ??? But seriously? .. naaa ... don't do serious here ... (P.S. I teach Philosophy and Critical Thinking - don't teach your grandmother ...)


How do you plan to kill all the pests that the cats kill, which would otherwise cause a worse problem?

Which other pests that cats kill - apart from mice??

[Zedder]

We should wipe out humans too, because that species has a far greater impact on the environment than any other animal species. Selfish, greedy cunts with their toxic chemicals being released into the environment and mass habitat destruction.

Is that you Agent Smith? "Humans beings are a disease..."

[bogan]

(P.S. I teach Philosophy and Critical Thinking)

:crazy: fuck there's a worry... Hopefully it's only at an arts college or something?

[Banditbandit]

:crazy: fuck there's a worry... Hopefully it's only at an arts college or something?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's not an arts college ... and yeah ... fuck that is a worry ... but they pay me huge amounts of money so I can have bikes and boats .. so I don't argue ..

[awa355]

Hasn't this idea been tried before??? I seem to remember Rabbits, Possums, Magpies, Gorse, Blackberry. Poms .

Cant see cats disappearing in a hurry:nono:

[avgas]

I teach Philosophy and Critical Thinking
Plato was like "actions of man!" and I was like "Whoa dude!!! just drive on the left hand side for once!". :lol:

[Banditbandit]

Plato was like "actions of man!" and I was like "Whoa dude!!! just drive on the left hand side for once!". :lol:

Plato was a fascist ... I prefer Aristotle ...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Plato was a faggot ... I prefer Arseholes ...

Say what? :whistle:

[BoristheBiter]

Why ???? There are only a few kiwi around ... cats will have an impact ... you get hung up on other people's shit ... I won't buy into Kerridge's bullshit ...

Kerridge is saying we should not get rid of cats because they ony kill a few native birds - I'm saying cats kill native birds - don't give a fuck how many - cats kill native birds, let's get rid of cats ...

What no-one is actually suggesting is how and when ... and everyoen is acting as if we go out and kill all cats tomorrow!

I suggest that we try to exterminate ALL feral cats (take quite a number of years .. they've never managed it with the deer population) and at the same time neuter ALL domestic cats so they don't breed - and outlaw any new cats from January 1, 2015.

Given the life epectancy of cats we should see the cat population start to decrease around 2030.

You just said you swerve around possums where possums have a greater effect on the native bird population than cats.


OFFS - you expect consistency in KB ??? But seriously? .. naaa ... don't do serious here ... (P.S. I teach Philosophy and Critical Thinking - don't teach your grandmother ...)

Which other pests that cats kill - apart from mice??

Let's see, mice, rats, possums, rabbits, weasels, stoats, ... shall i list some more?

Maybe you should stick to a profession that actually deals in facts.

[schrodingers cat]

We should wipe out humans too, because that species has a far greater impact on the environment than any other animal species. Selfish, greedy cunts with their toxic chemicals being released into the environment and mass habitat destruction.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with you!

That was my first thought - Kills birds, hard on the environment.

[Brian d marge]

It's a reasonable suggestion - Cats will wipe out a lot of our native birds ... New Zealand as a cat-free zone is worth discussing ... they are just another introduced pest that thrives here ...

Dont take this the wrong way, but I agree, all it takes is the fitting of a bell on the cat , and the problem is largely solved

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

I can't believe I'm agreeing with you!

That was my first thought - Kills birds, hard on the environment.

I hope it doesnt last long, Ive done similar , hopefully this isnt the future

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Ps , forget the native wild life , the most endangered species that needs protecting is:

the kiwi male

pretty much extinct ( almost )

Stephen

[Road kill]

Damage has already been done and cats are the lest of it.

99% of the birds the average urban kiwi sees on the average day will be imports.

Almost every mammal in the country is an import and the only thing that sets one apart from the other is how much money can be made from them.

Morgan is just keeping his name up front while actually doing nothing,,,yet again.:tugger:

[oldrider]

Morgan has too much of what the "cat" licks it's arse with .... what was it he was doing to "help" motorcyclists again? :killingme [worse news still: Nick the prick is back!] :brick:

[\m/]

That cunt is a very special waste of skin. The list of people who I'd leave to die at a motorcycle accident scene is very small indeed, but he's right on up there.
Agreed, Gareth Morgan is a lying two-faced shitstain who wouldn't think twice about stabbing us in the back and fucking us up the arse.

[Ocean1]

Which other pests that cats kill - apart from mice??


Let's see, mice, rats, possums, rabbits, weasels, stoats,

Correct. Why is it that fucking environmentalists are so wrong so often?

The biggest killer of native birds is the ship rat, they don't get much bad press because nobody sees them, they're nocturnal. Reduce the cat population and the only thing that will keep rats under control is the extinction of their primary food source.

[awa355]

Oh happy days, :clap:

went to high school the same time as Gareth.

He left school to become a pen and paper pusher nerd ( potsy) who ended up becoming filthy rich and riding motorbikes all over the world.

I left school as a cool cat ( fonzy) , ended up living from week to week and buying one 20yr old bike after another on hp.

:scratch:

If only he had been a bit more switched on :first:

[oldrider]

South Park today ... they tried to get rid of all the cats ... fucking funny and about as sensible as Gareth Morgan's rant in the paper! (ODT) :weird:

[steve_t]

South Park today ... they tried to get rid of all the cats ... fucking funny and about as sensible as Gareth Morgan's rant in the paper! (ODT) :weird:

LOL. Great episode! :2thumbsup Cheesing - it's fon to due :clap:

[Oakie]

No cats and I guess we get over-run with mice ... and rats ... the latter which eat bird eggs and baby birds.

Our old moggy is only a threat to lizards. He seems to catch and eat 3 or 4 a week at the moment. He catches the odd starling but just brings them inside and lets the feckers go!

[MIXONE]

Dont take this the wrong way, but I agree, all it takes is the fitting of a bell on the cat , and the problem is largely solved

Stephen

The most sensible and obvious answer.

[Berries]

all it takes is the fitting of a bell on the cat , and the problem is largely solved
About 25kg should do it.

[FJRider]

I like cats ... but they need Garlic ...

[unstuck]

Education is the key, teach the little fuckers species identification. Maybe we could make our cats wear HI-VIZ. My motherinlaw told her cat to stop bringing dead birds into the house, and it did. It did start bringing birds nests into the house though.:Punk::Punk:

[Grumph]

I want the right to trap and euthanise any economists I find off bank premises....i recommend you don't replace your old economist when he/she dies...It should be mandatory for economics graduates to be desexed upon release into the general population....
IMO they do more damage to the psyche of the population than all the losses of native fauna combined.

And most of them can't even manage their own household accounts....

[oneofsix]

Correct. Why is it that fucking environmentalists are so wrong so often?

The biggest killer of native birds is the ship rat, they don't get much bad press because nobody sees them, they're nocturnal. Reduce the cat population and the only thing that will keep rats under control is the extinction of their primary food source.

Ships rats get the focus from DOC and ecologists.

The attitude that cats can do no wrong needs to change, a lot of cat lovers are stupid about there furry killers and will not accept that they do kill. BTW I have owned more cats than dogs not that I have either at the moment, but still realise the risk they pose to native fauna.

And for your amusement; cats kill (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill)

[Scuba_Steve]

It's a reasonable suggestion - Cats will wipe out a lot of our native birds ... New Zealand as a cat-free zone is worth discussing ... they are just another introduced pest that thrives here ...

Dogs kill more native birds than cats do (this from the people who have to deal with the aftermath), cats mostly stick to helping control blackbirds & sparrows.

[Dadpole]

Dogs kill more native birds than cats do (this from the people who have to deal with the aftermath), cats mostly stick to helping control blackbirds & sparrows.

These cats would be the educated ones with the safety glasses and hi-vis collars then. :lol:

[malfunconz]

I propose to stop breeding under performing fund managers with wierd personality flaws and looks to match . Buggar off and go live on an other island .

[oldrider]

The cat problem has some merit (problems are mostly human) but using Gareth Morgan to front their campaign? What an epic "FAIL"! :doh:

[Banditbandit]

Say what? :whistle:

Yeah .. Plato may well have been a faggot ...

[Banditbandit]

You just said you swerve around possums where possums have a greater effect on the native bird population than cats.



No ... you got that wrong ... I swerve to HIT possums ... (at least on four wheel I do ... I avoid them on a bike ...)

[Scuba_Steve]

These cats would be the educated ones with the safety glasses and hi-vis collars then. :lol:

daytime running lights, hard hats & safety shoes too. Also a yellow flag hanging from the tail for full OSH compliance

[Banditbandit]

No cats and I guess we get over-run with mice ... and rats ... the latter which eat bird eggs and baby birds.

Our old moggy is only a threat to lizards. He seems to catch and eat 3 or 4 a week at the moment. He catches the odd starling but just brings them inside and lets the feckers go!

You do realize that our native lizards are protected endangered species as well ???

[Banditbandit]

Dogs kill more native birds than cats do (this from the people who have to deal with the aftermath), cats mostly stick to helping control blackbirds & sparrows.

Fuck ... my little hunter has never got a blackbird or a sparrow ... gets yellowhammers, mice, (never rats - I have never had a cat that kills rats ) rabbits, eels, thrushes ... He has been known to kill three or four birds a day .. (rural cat, not a city cat)

I have owned dogs as well (including bush hunting dogs) and never had one that killed birds ... I've never seen a dog climb a tree after birds - but I've seen many cats do it .. not al our native birds live on the ground ..

[Scuba_Steve]

Fuck ... my little hunter has never got a blackbird or a sparrow ... gets yellowhammers, mice, (never rats - I have never had a cat that kills rats ) rabbits, eels, thrushes ... He has been known to kill three or four birds a day .. (rural cat, not a city cat)

I have owned dogs as well (including bush hunting dogs) and never had one that killed birds ... I've never seen a dog climb a tree after birds - but I've seen many cats do it .. not al our native birds live on the ground ..

Biggest threat to Kiwi is dogs. They don't hunt, they play but they end up breaking the kiwi's neck with their play. Whereas most cats won't go for things bigger then themselves, so pukekos, kiwis, Takahē's, wood pigeons, hawks, & to some extent tui's are all somewhat safe from cats. Dogs however aint so picky.

Our 3 cats have never touched a native & we have a decent amount of Tui's, silvereyes, fantails, wood pidgeons, pukeko's round our section. They have brought us a few sparrows & a couple (younger) blackbirds however & of-course the usual mice etc.

[Swoop]

Gareth Morgan really needs a hobby.


I guess he is going to "help" the nation by providing bells for every feline in the country? Or will you have to register your moggy, and a portion of that fee will go into a fund called "POTO - Pussies Own The Options"?

[puddytat]

Well I reckon we need to do something , especially when it comes to Feral cats. Every year we get the useless fuckers in our area dumping unwanted litters of kittens which either die slowly or go on to breed more ferals. Ive met far to many people who go "Oh what a beautiful little kitten" & cant get their shit together to de-sex them & every year another litter to deal with.
We have three cats...all desexed. The female especially hunts anything that moves, skinks ,fledglings, birds including catching a Tui,all 3 catch mice & rats & also the odd stoat.
Young rabbits are also a favourite.
What fucks me off is that since we've lived here & had cats, there has been a marked decrease in Fantails & Robins & yet they ignore the Blackbirds & Thrushes that fuck the apples, rob the Berries & rip the fuck out of the Garden.
So there are pros & cons of cats but I think that its time to make some rules around ownership & desexing. Maybe free desexing for a start.
If it was up to me I'd have no cats, but it would also mean I'd probably have no missus either...

[oneofsix]

Well I reckon we need to do something .

I reckon that was the whole point of Garth's rant too, and just look at how the cat lovers claws have come out. I reckon all cats should be registered with discounts like for dogs. Instead of a collar they can be micro-chipped and there should be a curfew as in some Aussie states.

As for cat catching mice, rats etc some breeds of dogs were created for that purpose and make better vermin catchers.

[wharekura]

Obviously not enough cats here then: http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/8059613/Pigeon-cull-begins

[bosslady]

Meowwwww!

I could live without a cat, we kind of stole a couple of our neighbours cats. We feed and de-flea them but stop short of neutering them cause well... they aint our cats and only visit from time to time lol but seems their owners can't/don't even de-flea them so doubtful they neuter them too.

I think all cats should be neutered to keep the numbers down and they should only be able to be bought from certain places where they are bred. But that's probably extreme for some people and it would end up being expensive, no more free kitties. But to pretty much get rid of ALL domestic cats? ridiculous. Cats give so much love and attention and lots of people, especially the elderly, rely on them for companionship, something to look after because shit, they probably don't have anyone who comes to see them anyway apart from their kitty cat! It would be a sad day...

[Banditbandit]

It would be a sad day...

It wil be a sad day too when there are no more Kiwi, no Kakapo, no Kokako, no Saddlebacks, no Tui ..

[bosslady]

It wil be a sad day too when there are no more Kiwi, no Kakapo, no Kokako, no Saddlebacks, no Tui ..

I wouldn't be sad about that. Just being honest. I would be sad about the little old lady sitting at home who doesn't have anything or anyone except her little kitty that brings her so much joy and companionship. So many elderly rely on animals such as cats for companionship, it's sad but it's true. Even younger people that also have nobody in their lives do too. I have more empathy for the sad, lonely old (or young?) people then I do those birds, sorry.

[bogan]

I wouldn't be sad about that. Just being honest. I would be sad about the little old lady sitting at home who doesn't have anything or anyone except her little kitty that brings her so much joy and companionship. So many elderly rely on animals such as cats for companionship, it's sad but it's true. Even younger people that also have nobody in their lives do too. I have more empathy for the sad, lonely old (or young?) people then I do those birds, sorry.

I would be, but I'm struggling to see how the current topic will have any affect on that outcome. Just the standard waffly arguments making a mountain out of some anecdotal molehills with no relevant bearing on the real world :yawn:

[BoristheBiter]

No ... you got that wrong ... I swerve to HIT possums ... (at least on four wheel I do ... I avoid them on a bike ...)

I was beginning to wonder,

We have a problem with mice, rats, rabbits and you can still buy them from a pet shop WTF up with that.

Cats are just the topic of the day because GM wants his face in the news, and like most other things fuck all will change.

[Banditbandit]

We have a problem with , rabbits and you can still buy them from a pet shop WTF up with that.



Oh .. tastey meat .. big fuckers like the Flemish Giants are great in stews .. a lot of meat on one of these ... goes to about 3.7 kilos .. that's six or seven meals for me and the wife ... cheap at $20 on trademe ... that5's $20 for 3 and a half kilos of healthy meat with very little fat on it ..



http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/249778001.jpg

[Zedder]

Gareth Morgan really needs a hobby.


I guess he is going to "help" the nation by providing bells for every feline in the country? Or will you have to register your moggy, and a portion of that fee will go into a fund called "POTO - Pussies Own The Options"?

Yep, though I think his hobby is winding people up.

Providing bells for cats would probably be a viable option. However, he doesn't offer to do that and let's face it he can afford it. He would rather be a dick and cause people grief.

[Banditbandit]

Providing bells for cats would probably be a viable option.


Naaa ... that won't stop them hunting (just decreases the chances of killing) .. and increases the cfhances of the little hunters getting hooked up on collars and hanging themselves ... or sitting down and yelling late at night because they are hung up .. that will please the neighbours ...

[BoristheBiter]

Oh .. tastey meat .. big fuckers like the Flemish Giants are great in stews .. a lot of meat on one of these ... goes to about 3.7 kilos .. that's six or seven meals for me and the wife ... cheap at $20 on trademe ... that5's $20 for 3 and a half kilos of healthy meat with very little fat on it ..





A bit like some Asians and cats?

http://www.waleg.com/images/skinned_cat.jpg

[imdying]

I've seen cats with bells that are very adept at tucking the bell inside the collar so it makes a gentle rattle instead of a ringing. They do the weirdest shit...

[bogan]

I've seen cats with bells that are very adept at tucking the bell inside the collar so it makes a gentle rattle instead of a ringing. They do the weirdest shit...

Had one that worked out how to flick them off with her thumbclaw (or whatever the fuck its called). Another one just though he was fabulous and developed a jaunty walk to make more noise; he was fucking perplexed when it first went on though :lol:

[imdying]

They see him jaunting...

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[Banditbandit]

A bit like some Asians and cats?



A bit like ... well yeah ... but lots of us eat rabbits - fuck all of us eat cats ...

[Zedder]

Naaa ... that won't stop them hunting (just decreases the chances of killing) .. and increases the cfhances of the little hunters getting hooked up on collars and hanging themselves ... or sitting down and yelling late at night because they are hung up .. that will please the neighbours ...

They are "wired" to hunt tandemB, it probably wouldn't be possible to change that without DNA modification.

Like humans, can't stop them being humans, but there are ways to decrease the chances of them killing etc.

[BoristheBiter]

A bit like ... well yeah ... but lots of us eat rabbits - fuck all of us eat cats ...

So why ban cats when they have more of a purpose to us than rabbits?

[Banditbandit]

So why ban cats when they have more of a purpose to us than rabbits?

I've seen cats kill rabbits - I have yet to see a rabbit kill a cat ..

Tho' this is interesting ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMxQAkAeP5E

[FJRider]

So why ban cats when they have more of a purpose to us than rabbits?

Rabbits provide more employment/income for people ... than cats do.

The total removal of rabbits would have more effect on our economy ... than the total removal of cats.

[Zedder]

Rabbits provide more employment/income for people ... than cats do.

The total removal of rabbits would have more effect on our economy ... than the total removal of cats.

Give us some figures FJR. What about vets and their staff, pet shops and their staff, drug companies and their staff etc?

[BoristheBiter]

Rabbits provide more employment/income for people ... than cats do.

The total removal of rabbits would have more effect on our economy ... than the total removal of cats.

The total removal of rabbits would have a bigger benefit. Just ask the farmers how much they lose because of rabbits eating their grass.

There will be a bigger feral rabbit population and that is the problem.

[FJRider]

Give us some figures FJR. What about vets and their staff, pet shops and their staff, drug companies and their staff etc?

Most ... if not all farms/stations employ one or more soley on rabbit control. Vets won't be out of work if cats "dissappear" ... less than 1-2 % of their business.

There would be 250-300 people in this area alone working and relying on rabbits for income. From killing them, to manufacture/processing of products, and produce from them. Skins/meat etc.

Sales of ammunition/poison/spotlighting gear would make up a large part of income for MANY farm/rural businesses.

The annual budget for rabbit control on some larger stations is well over $100,000 at least .. and there are plenty of large stations. To take THAT sort of money out of a local town economy ... would hurt a few. A lot more that NO CATS would. Some stations might even start MAKING money ...

[FJRider]

The total removal of rabbits would have a bigger benefit. Just ask the farmers how much they lose because of rabbits eating their grass.

There will be a bigger feral rabbit population and that is the problem.

Read post # 95 in this thread.

[Swoop]

The total removal of rabbits would have a bigger benefit. Just ask the farmers how much they lose because of rabbits eating their grass.

There will be a bigger feral rabbit population and that is the problem.
The eating of grass is one issue, the burrows can break the legs of cattle.
If we put the bounty back on the head of a rabbit (& other pests) so that a person has more desire to hunt them down as a form of living/income, there might be a better alternative to other methods used.
Not that the green party would be supportive of this, however.

[Zedder]

Most ... if not all farms/stations employ one or more soley on rabbit control. Vets won't be out of work if cats "dissappear" ... less than 1-2 % of their business.

There would be 250-300 people in this area alone working and relying on rabbits for income. From killing them, to manufacture/processing of products, and produce from them. Skins/meat etc.

Sales of ammunition/poison/spotlighting gear would make up a large part of income for MANY farm/rural businesses.

The annual budget for rabbit control on some larger stations is well over $100,000 at least .. and there are plenty of large stations. To take THAT sort of money out of a local town economy ... would hurt a few. A lot more that NO CATS would. Some stations might even start MAKING money ...

You're only looking at vets. I wrote about all the other job opportunities and sales.

[bogan]

Most ... if not all farms/stations employ one or more soley on rabbit control. Vets won't be out of work if cats "dissappear" ... less than 1-2 % of their business.

There would be 250-300 people in this area alone working and relying on rabbits for income. From killing them, to manufacture/processing of products, and produce from them. Skins/meat etc.

Sales of ammunition/poison/spotlighting gear would make up a large part of income for MANY farm/rural businesses.

The annual budget for rabbit control on some larger stations is well over $100,000 at least .. and there are plenty of large stations. To take THAT sort of money out of a local town economy ... would hurt a few. A lot more that NO CATS would. Some stations might even start MAKING money ...

He may have wanted actual figures, rather than some just pulled out of your arse FJ :dodge:

In both cases it's just 'service' industry, if either were taken away the money would be spent elsewhere. However, rabbit control is a business expense, so their removal has more of an effect on the profitability of said businesses, so yes, I agree it would have more of an effect on the economy.

[FJRider]

I wrote about all the other job opportunities and sales.

Drug sales wont "disappear" with cats ..

Job "opportunities" ... and "other" relating to cats .. ???

Take the pictures of cats off cat food and put a dog on it. (dogs don't care about the picture on the can)

Done ...

[Zedder]

He may have wanted actual figures, rather than some just pulled out of your arse FJ :dodge:

In both cases it's just 'service' industry, if either were taken away the money would be spent elsewhere. However, rabbit control is a business expense, so their removal has more of an effect on the profitability of said businesses, so yes, I agree it would have more of an effect on the economy.

Some figures (not pulled out of the air or arse), cats in NZ as of July 2011= 1.419 million of the furry critters. Average expenditure per cat by owner= $838 per year, ie $840 million spent.

[BoristheBiter]

Most ... if not all farms/stations employ one or more soley on rabbit control. Vets won't be out of work if cats "dissappear" ... less than 1-2 % of their business.

There would be 250-300 people in this area alone working and relying on rabbits for income. From killing them, to manufacture/processing of products, and produce from them. Skins/meat etc.

Sales of ammunition/poison/spotlighting gear would make up a large part of income for MANY farm/rural businesses.

The annual budget for rabbit control on some larger stations is well over $100,000 at least .. and there are plenty of large stations. To take THAT sort of money out of a local town economy ... would hurt a few. A lot more that NO CATS would. Some stations might even start MAKING money ...

In a survey in 2007 52% of households have a cat, only 30% have a dog.
900,000 to 1.5m cats and just under 500k dogs so i would take a guess and say it is a bit more than 1-2% of their business.

Hummm take to money out of the economy and put it back in as a result of profits, yes I can see how that would fail.:cool:

Ask any farmer what if there would rather have cats or rabbits and i bet i can guess the answer.

[FJRider]

In a survey in 2007 52% of households have a cat, only 30% have a dog.
900,000 to 1.5m cats and just under 500k dogs so i would take a guess and say it is a bit more than 1-2% of their business.

38 million sheep (at the last census)... dairy cow numbers increasing (in the millions) ... horses .. goats .. birds .. Cats are NOT the mainstay income of MOST vets.

If people can't have a cat ... they'll get a dog. Or a Budgie. People are funny like that.


Hummm take to money out of the economy and put it back in as a result of profits, yes I can see how that would fail.:cool:

It's not so much a fail ... just that real people depend on that income. And that income would be in somebody else's pocket.


Ask any farmer what if there would rather have cats or rabbits and i bet i can guess the answer.

Most farmers shoot cats too. The (my) issue was not about their preferred choice ... but who relies on that industrys money to live/survive.

[FJRider]

He may have wanted actual figures, rather than some just pulled out of your arse FJ :dodge:



I would have pulled bigger figures out ... but my arse isn't that big.

"Actual" figures are available ... if he really wants them.

Google ... "New Zealand rabbit control" ... I think you'll find my figures actually LOW.

[oneofsix]

In a survey in 2007 52% of households have a cat, only 30% have a dog.


umm so cats are the bigger problem

:corn:

[bosslady]

If people can't have a cat ... they'll get a dog. Or a Budgie. People are funny like that.

Nah, I hate dogs.. budgies... any other animal.

[FJRider]

Nah, I hate dogs.. budgies... any other animal.

Some "dogs" are hardly dogs ... but the choices are endless.

[Banditbandit]

Nah, I hate dogs.. budgies... any other animal.

Be careful which bikers you are with then ... some of them are real animals

[bosslady]

Some "dogs" are hardly dogs ... but the choices are endless.

Now HATE is a strong word but... I HATE dogs.

[bosslady]

Be careful which bikers you are with then ... some of them are real animals

what animal are you?

[FJRider]

Now HATE is a strong word but... I HATE dogs.

I meant the choices of pets are endless ... not of dogs.

[bogan]

I would have pulled bigger figures out ... but my arse isn't that big.

"Actual" figures are available ... if he really wants them.

Google ... "New Zealand rabbit control" ... I think you'll find my figures actually LOW.

He found some for cats, 840mil per annum. Your job to find em for rabbit to back up your assertion. And you think 840mil won't affect the income of vets?

btw, if you're arguing people can find new pets, then people can find new jobs too. Maybe they can even do something useful which grows the economy in their new job.

[Zedder]

At least this is entertaining. FJR, give up mate.

[BoristheBiter]

38 million sheep (at the last census)... dairy cow numbers increasing (in the millions) ... horses .. goats .. birds .. Cats are NOT the mainstay income of MOST vets.


It's not so much a fail ... just that real people depend on that income. And that income would be in somebody else's pocket.

Most farmers shoot cats too. The (my) issue was not about their preferred choice ... but who relies on that industrys money to live/survive.

there is a massive industry for the eradication for rats and mice.
So if we go by your logic we should farm these animals and let them go free as to increase the value of the pest control industry.:weird:

[FJRider]

there is a massive industry for the eradication for rats and mice.
So if we go by your logic we should farm these animals and let them go free as to increase the value of the pest control industry.:weird:

Where did I suggest ... and how do you conclude farming of pest species would be my suggested logical next step ...

[Katman]

Perhaps GM should channel his efforts toward erradicating the human pond scum that take pleasure in killing their own children.

[FJRider]

Perhaps GM should channel his efforts toward erradicating the human pond scum that take pleasure in killing their own children.

Kids don't feature on any endangered species list.

And considering the number that didn't get jail time for it ... it must be almost legal.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Perhaps GM should channel his efforts toward erradicating the human pond scum that take pleasure in killing their own children.

As if. The fucking wanker paid for Blanket Man's fucking funeral to get more attention. A cunt that killed his best mate driving pissed, and used to jerk off in front of children in the middle of the street. NICE one GARETH!

[schrodingers cat]

I reckon Gareth is big mates with Lance Armstrong.
Poor old Lance is taking a pounding on talkback radio so PRESS RELEASE! - KILL THEM KITTYS!
Nek minit - Lance who?

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[Usarka]

As if. The fucking wanker paid for Blanket Man's fucking funeral to get more attention. A cunt that killed his best mate driving pissed, and used to jerk off in front of children in the middle of the street. NICE one GARETH!

But he's a millionaire, that means he's like so awesome and knows stuff.

[unstuck]

But he's a millionaire, that means he's like so awesome and knows stuff.

A millionaire is nothing really these days though, you have to be a multi millionaire to be accepted by the hob knobs these days.:2thumbsup

[Crasherfromwayback]

But he's a millionaire, that means he's like so awesome and knows stuff.

Yeah. He wanked on in the local paper about how he used to stop in Courtenay Place some nights and talk with BM. What a crock of fucking shit.

BM wasn't capable of speaking English first thing in the morning let alone after dark.

[BoristheBiter]

Where did I suggest ... and how do you conclude farming of pest species would be my suggested logical next step ...

How do you think they restock pet shops?

You complained that removing a pest would cost jobs, then it only stands to reason that you would rather grow this industry then eradicate all pests as this would cost jobs.

[FJRider]

You complained that removing a pest would cost jobs, then it only stands to reason that you would rather grow this industry then eradicate all pests as this would cost jobs.

I commented that more people rely on rabbits (one way or another) for their lively hood ... than cats. The rest is just your feeble imagination. Stay focused please ...

[actungbaby]

Domestic cats next target:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10860618

gezz dude must be dog guy , wish but down his calculator for minute , i rekon needs to leave

that football club alone too wreaking it, so much for silent partners

I liked his pan speaking stlye need a alot more non pc , guy smart man but gone bit power crazed

Mind you i think media because hes no bloody boring ask him his opinions on to many subjects

Maybe he take over from my key, i better lock up my pussys

[unstuck]

Never gonna happen.:nono: Impossible.

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[BoristheBiter]

I commented that more people rely on rabbits (one way or another) for their lively hood ... than cats. The rest is just your feeble imagination. Stay focused please ...

No just your bad argument that rabbits are worth more than cats without thinking about what you were saying.

[oneofsix]

No just your bad argument that rabbits are worth more than cats without thinking about what you were saying.

But rabbits are better than cats. They are just a furry and cuddly and don't have the nasty habit of clawing the furniture like cats. You can feed then the scraps so cheaper to keep for old ladies etc. and when you have to get rid of them instead of lettign them run wild of drowning them in sacks you can stew or roast them.

[Zedder]

According to todays NZ Herald, Gareth Morgan is now slamming some Phoenix football club fans as "pathetic". He reckons "a lot of them don't know much about the game..." The idle rich eh.

[Banditbandit]

what animal are you?

Which ever one you want ... 'cept lapdog ...

[FJRider]

No just your bad argument that rabbits are worth more than cats without thinking about what you were saying.

No .. just your opinion. Way off track ... as per usual.

[imdying]

The cock smoker must have a book coming out soon or something :rolleyes:

[Zedder]

The cock smoker must have a book coming out soon or something :rolleyes:

Yeah, there's one due judging by the intervals between the others.

This one will probably be very short though, one chapter: "Who can I piss off now?"

[Zedder]

I commented that more people rely on rabbits (one way or another) for their lively hood ... than cats. The rest is just your feeble imagination. Stay focused please ...

Fweeeeet! Get away back there!

[BoristheBiter]

No .. just your opinion. Way off track ... as per usual.

Actually it was your opinion that cats only make up 1-2% of vets income and rabbits as a pest are worth more.

So who is the one off track?

[Swoop]

But he's a millionaire, that means he's like so awesome and knows stuff.
He must have a Masters in Public Relations...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10861119


There is something afoot. Someone can't be this stupid and not be in the labour party.

[FJRider]

Actually it was your opinion that cats only make up 1-2% of vets income and rabbits as a pest are worth more.



Would I lie to you ... ??? :innocent:

[Banditbandit]

But rabbits are better than cats. you can stew or roast them.

I do both .. a good rabbitt will give me at least three meals for me and the wife .. sometimes more ...

Roast the Rabbit - take back legs and some meat - two meals (one each)

Stew the remains .. with plenty of veges etc .. two more meals (one each)

Put the rest in a pie .. that will actually give us half a pie for one meal (a piece each) .. so two meals (two each)

So a good size rabbit can give me a total of meals for four days meat (eight servings) off one rabbit - great healthy food and real cheap .. the cost of a .22 shell (or a reusable arrow) plus vegies ...

[unstuck]

Wood pigeon is better than rabbit.:2thumbsup

[Banditbandit]

Wood pigeon is better than rabbit.:2thumbsup

Oh yeah ... but ummm ... they too (kereru/kukupa) are a protected species .. not that I'm that hot on upholding the law .. but well .. you know ... the greenie/environmentalist tinge comes through now and then ...

I shot a pheasant on the lawn one day - I thought I'd never tried pheasant so I took it ... it tasted like rabbit - so I thought I'd rather have the pretty birds around and eat the pests ...

[unstuck]

Pheasants are way cool, and tasty.Would love some pheasants around here. Nearly ate this Kakapo once when we were stuck out at codfish island.:devil2:

[BoristheBiter]

Oh yeah ... but ummm ... they too (kereru/kukupa) are a protected species .. not that I'm that hot on upholding the law .. but well .. you know ... the greenie/environmentalist tinge comes through now and then ...

I shot a pheasant on the lawn one day - I thought I'd never tried pheasant so I took it ... it tasted like rabbit - so I thought I'd rather have the pretty birds around and eat the pests ...

Pukeko's are both.

[BoristheBiter]

Pheasants are way cool, and tasty.Would love some pheasants around here. Nearly ate this Kakapo once when we were stuck out at codfish island.:devil2:

with that look on your face, being eaten was it's least worries:crazy:

[unstuck]

with that look on your face, being eaten was it's least worries:crazy:

Had been there a while, thats true. Had no tape to wrap around its body though, so it was safe.:devil2:

[BoristheBiter]

Had been there a while, thats true. Had no tape to wrap around its body though, so it was safe.:devil2:

there really is just no answer to that :sick: but codfish can be a lonely place

[unstuck]

there really is just no answer to that :sick: but codfish can be a lonely place

It is indeed, and a very beautiful one. Amazing what the birdlife is like with no rats or cats.:2thumbsup

[Scuba_Steve]

Pheasants are way cool, and tasty.Would love some pheasants around here. Nearly ate this Kakapo once when we were stuck out at codfish island.:devil2:

& here I was expecting you to have one wicked as Mo, in saying that I suppose the bush isn't exactly Mo friendly territory.

[unstuck]

& here I was expecting you to have one wicked as Mo, in saying that I suppose the bush isn't exactly Mo friendly territory.

I hate facial hair. But when you are out on a remote island you gotta look the part.:cool:

[Crasherfromwayback]

He must have a Masters in Public Relations...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10861119
.

Yeah he's going well eh! I hope the supporters all fuck of in protest until he fucks off.

[Banditbandit]

Nearly ate this Kakapo once when we were stuck out at codfish island.:devil2:

There's got to be a lot of meat on a kakapo ... and they are such an evolutionary dead end ... it's a waste of time trying to save the stupid fuckers ... they just sit around honking plaintiffly ... hoping a female will wander by ... dumb dumb dumb ..

[BoristheBiter]

It is indeed, and a very beautiful one. Amazing what the birdlife is like with no rats or cats.:2thumbsup

Or dogs, possums, stoats, weasels, etc.


There's got to be a lot of meat on a kakapo ... and they are such an evolutionary dead end ... it's a waste of time trying to save the stupid fuckers ... they just sit around honking plaintiffly ... hoping a female will wander by ... dumb dumb dumb ..

Sound like the viaduct on a Saturday night.

[FJRider]

I hate facial hair. But when you are out on a remote island you gotta look the part.:cool:

And Gore isn't that far away from civilization ... :shifty:

[Kickaha]

And Gore isn't that far away from civilization ... :shifty:

The fuck it isn't. I'll be down there for a few days soon, I'll have to keep an eye out for a bearded swandri wearing hillbilly and walk on the other side of the street

[FJRider]

The fuck it isn't. I'll be down there for a few days soon, I'll have to keep an eye out for a bearded swandri wearing hillbilly and walk on the other side of the street

Walk up the MIDDLE of the street then ... They're more popular in Gore ... than jandals are ... in Samoa ... <_<

[Katman]

than jandals are ... in Samoa ... <_<

I think you mean chandals.

[tzrmike]

You should bow your head in reverance and remain silent before your god. Gareth knows all, Gareth sees all, cower in the dust and tremble!! Oh no, hang on, it was his son who had the idea to take on Ebay, actually, praise be the son of G(od)areth!

[Owl]

Gareth Morgan really needs a hobby.

Speech therapy?:confused:

[FJRider]

Speech therapy?:confused:

That's another name for Toastmasters ... ???? :confused:

[oldrider]

He must have a Masters in Public Relations...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10861119


There is something afoot. Someone can't be this stupid and not be in the labour party.

It's happening a lot lately ... Nick Smith "is" that fucking stupid and he is not a member of the Labour party or the Greens either!

It is the day of the interchangeable politician .... the NZ political parties (judging by the results they inflict upon us!) are all the same! :mellow:

Gareth Morgan will fit right in to any one of them ... babbling shit and sweating the small unimportant stuff and completing nothing! :facepalm:

[SMOKEU]

Anyone had a look at his website? http://garethsworld.com/catstogo/

It would be funny if someone attacked the website and brought it down just to troll.

[oldrider]

If he makes enough noise this year .... maybe it will be "Sir Gareth" next year ... for services to soccer and native birds!

Sir Gareth will be "Highly commended" for his part in destroying old ladies cats and nullifying motorcyclist uprisings! :shifty:

[Coolz]

Cats against Gareth Morgan

[brendonjw]

Looks like someone else is also looking into what cats are doing.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10862254

" The paper says the estimates are much bigger than previously thought, and show that cats "are likely the single greatest source of anthropogenic [man-made] mortality for US birds and mammals."

It adds: "Scientifically sound conservation and policy intervention [are] needed to reduce this impact.""

Someone mentioned figures about how much $$ cat owners contribute to the economy earlier $8?? per year, i wonder if most of that is just made up of cat food...

Just stirring the pot.

[Usarka]

Diseases and killing birds are very valid points, but fuck off if some rich twat with nothing better to do is going to tell me what to do. There are plenty of experts around who can do that.

If our society requires rich people or celebrities to enact change then we've gone wrong somewhere.

[Stylo]

Just watched Gareth Morgan on TV3 - what a cock

Seems he's trying to backtrack on his position with the cat thing and save some face at the same time.

Did'nt work.

Wanker.

[bogan]

Just watched Gareth Morgan on TV3 - what a cock

Seems he's trying to backtrack on his position with the cat thing and save some face at the same time.

Did'nt work.

Wanker.

He got on TV, I'd say he got exactly what he wanted then. Kind of feel sorry for the type of person who will do shit just to get in the limelight, then I remember how he fucked us over and don't feel sorry for him anymore :angry:

[Zedder]

Yeah, I'm sorry too. Sorry that I have ever heard of or seen the scum bag.

[bogan]

Yeah, I'm sorry too. Sorry that I have ever heard of or seen the scum bag.

I bet his kiwisaver investment fund managers sit him down each month and say, "Gareth, this month just shut the fuck up and don't make an idiot of yourself". He's not doing too well this year :bleh:

[flyingcrocodile46]

The cock said he was going to put his money where his mouth is then proceeded to list a truckload of conditions that if met would see him front up with $5. :facepalm:

He made a right arse of himself, but at least he was honest about the value of the hair lipped anus that he calls his mouth.


I have an unread copy of his latest road trip book. It is now in the bin and has been joined by backblocks America.

[oldrider]

He got on TV, I'd say he got exactly what he wanted then. Kind of feel sorry for the type of person who will do shit just to get in the limelight, then I remember how he fucked us over and don't feel sorry for him anymore :angry:

Fools names and fools faces often seen in public places 2014 arise Sir Gareth recognition of procrastination and services for sweating the small stuff!

[BoristheBiter]

Yeah, I'm sorry too. Sorry that I have ever heard of or seen the scum bag.

Never liked him from they day he made shitloads off his son's projects then claimed he made his own money.

Such a wanker deserves a horrible death, maybe choked with a cat.

[Zedder]

We may be getting somewhere: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10862513

Note the rider about the SPCA not releasing any cats into the wild though.

[Oscar]

Never liked him from they day he made shitloads off his son's projects then claimed he made his own money.

Such a wanker deserves a horrible death, maybe choked with a cat.

He was actually reasonably well off before the Trade Me thing.
Notwithstanding that, he formed a foundation to give away that windfall (about $40m) to charity.

[Oscar]

Perhaps one of you cat lovers could explain why dog owners are highly regulated whereas cats are not?
Why is anyone in my neighborhood allowed to own as many cats as they want, and why are these cats allowed to wander hither and yon, crapping, procreating and killing birds as they like?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Notwithstanding that, he formed a foundation to give away that windfall (about $40m) to charity.

Do you seriously believe he's given 40 mill away?

[Oscar]

Do you seriously believe he's given 40 mill away?

Actually the website http://www.morganfoundation.org.nz/ says that the foundation was endowed with some of that money. Despite that, money has certainly been given away.

In conjunction with Gareth Morgan Investments and Gareth Morgan KiwiSaver, MF is pleased to have partnered with the following charities to raise funds from their local community

2010 total raised $119,890

HB Rescue Helicopter Trust
Nelson Region Hospice Trust
Hospice Taranaki
Sport Waikato
Kidz First Children's Hospital
Hospice Southland
Otago Hospice
Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
Ronald McDonald House Wellington
Arohanui Hospice
Waipuna Hospice
North Haven Hospice

2009 total raised $234,145

Napier Pathway Trust
Eastwoodhill Arboretum
North Shore Hospice
Kidz First
Sport Waikato
Big Brothers Big Sisters
Waipuna Hospice
Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
South Canterbury Hospice
Otago Hospice
Hospice Southland
Arohanui Hospice
North Haven Hospice
Ronald McDonald House Wellington
Nelson Region Hospice Trust

2008 total raised $395,926

Invercargill's Hospice Southland
Dunedin's Otago Hospice
Timaru's South Canterbury Hospice
Christchurch's Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
Nelson Region Hospice
Wellington Free Ambulance
Palmerston North's Arohanui Hospice
The Napier Pathway Trust
Rotorua's Life Education Trust
Hamilton's Sport Waikato
Auckland's Kidz First

2007 total raised $287,126

Invercargill's Hospice Southland
Christchurch's Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
Nelson Hospice
Wellington City Mission
Palmerston North's Arohanui Hospice
Big Brothers Big Sisters of Taranaki
The Napier Pathway Trust
Lake Taupo Hospice
Gisborne's Eastwoodhill Arboretum
Life Education Trust Rotorua
Tauranga's Trustpower TECT Rescue Helicopter
Hamilton's Sport Waikato
Auckland and Manukau's Kidz First
Waitakere's Karekare Surf Club
North Shore Hospice
Timaru's South Canterbury Hospice

[Zedder]

Perhaps one of you cat lovers could explain why dog owners are highly regulated whereas cats are not?
Why is anyone in my neighborhood allowed to own as many cats as they want, and why are these cats allowed to wander hither and yon, crapping, procreating and killing birds as they like?

I'm not a cat lover specifically but like all animals. However, cats are allowed to trespass by law, they are not deemed to foul significantly (they bury their crap etc) enough to warrent undue attention. While they do kill some birds, they also kill rodents etc.

Dogs are a bit different.

But I think you knew that, troll a lol a loll...

[Oscar]

I'm not a cat lover specifically but like all animals. However, cats are allowed to trespass by law, they are not deemed to foul significantly (they bury their crap etc) enough to warrent undue attention. While they do kill some birds, they also kill rodents etc.

Dogs are a bit different.

But I think you knew that, troll a lol a loll...

"..allowed to trespass by law"?

Sez who?

So if someone moved in next door with a dozen cats, you'd be OK with that?
BTW - they don't all bury their crap.

[BoristheBiter]

Actually the website http://www.morganfoundation.org.nz/ says that the foundation was endowed with some of that money. Despite that, money has certainly been given away.

In conjunction with Gareth Morgan Investments and Gareth Morgan KiwiSaver, MF is pleased to have partnered with the following charities to raise funds from their local community

2010 total raised $119,890

HB Rescue Helicopter Trust
Nelson Region Hospice Trust
Hospice Taranaki
Sport Waikato
Kidz First Children's Hospital
Hospice Southland
Otago Hospice
Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
Ronald McDonald House Wellington
Arohanui Hospice
Waipuna Hospice
North Haven Hospice

2009 total raised $234,145

Napier Pathway Trust
Eastwoodhill Arboretum
North Shore Hospice
Kidz First
Sport Waikato
Big Brothers Big Sisters
Waipuna Hospice
Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
South Canterbury Hospice
Otago Hospice
Hospice Southland
Arohanui Hospice
North Haven Hospice
Ronald McDonald House Wellington
Nelson Region Hospice Trust

2008 total raised $395,926

Invercargill's Hospice Southland
Dunedin's Otago Hospice
Timaru's South Canterbury Hospice
Christchurch's Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
Nelson Region Hospice
Wellington Free Ambulance
Palmerston North's Arohanui Hospice
The Napier Pathway Trust
Rotorua's Life Education Trust
Hamilton's Sport Waikato
Auckland's Kidz First

2007 total raised $287,126

Invercargill's Hospice Southland
Christchurch's Canterbury Charity Hospital Trust
Nelson Hospice
Wellington City Mission
Palmerston North's Arohanui Hospice
Big Brothers Big Sisters of Taranaki
The Napier Pathway Trust
Lake Taupo Hospice
Gisborne's Eastwoodhill Arboretum
Life Education Trust Rotorua
Tauranga's Trustpower TECT Rescue Helicopter
Hamilton's Sport Waikato
Auckland and Manukau's Kidz First
Waitakere's Karekare Surf Club
North Shore Hospice
Timaru's South Canterbury Hospice

That doesn't make $40m


"..allowed to trespass by law"?

Sez who?

So if someone moved in next door with a dozen cats, you'd be OK with that?
BTW - they don't all bury their crap.

I would like to see cats try and crap on our section...... well the dog would.

[Zedder]

"..allowed to trespass by law"?

Sez who?

So if someone moved in next door with a dozen cats, you'd be OK with that?
BTW - they don't all bury their crap.

Look it up, like you did about the morgan foundation, it's all there on the wondrous interweb.

[Oscar]

That doesn't make $40m



I never said it did. In fact, the words "some of that money" were used.



I would like to see cats try and crap on our section...... well the dog would.

I miss my dog...

[Oscar]

Look it up, like you did about the morgan foundation, it's all there on the wondrous interweb.

I posted a link.
You're just making shit up.

[Zedder]

I posted a link.
You're just making shit up.

Sigh, here ya go curmudgeon: http://www.malley.co.nz/assets/images/pdf/OvertheFence.pdf

Read section 4. Or do you want me to tell you all about it?

[Oscar]

Sigh, here ya go curmudgeon: http://www.malley.co.nz/assets/images/pdf/OvertheFence.pdf

Read section 4. Or do you want me to tell you all about it?

Nope.
It's jolly interesting.

It's not gonna stop me evicting them with the toe of my boot.

[BoristheBiter]

He was actually reasonably well off before the Trade Me thing.
Notwithstanding that, he formed a foundation to give away that windfall (about $40m) to charity.


I never said it did. In fact, the words "some of that money" were used.

Yes you're right you said "about" because $749961 is so much like $40m



I miss my dog...

get another, easiest way to keep cats away.

[Oscar]

get another, easiest way to keep cats away.

Do try and keep up..

Actually the website http://www.morganfoundation.org.nz/ says that the foundation was endowed with some of that money. Despite that, money has certainly been given away.

I'd like another dog, but there's no one home for most of the day and can't take one to work.

[Zedder]

I'd like another dog, but there's no one home for most of the day and can't take one to work.

What about a cat then? They pretty much look after themselves, are very territorial and keep other cats and the odd dog away.

The family cat we had years ago used to chase dogs away, it was amazing to see.

[Oscar]

What about a cat then? They pretty much look after themselves, are very territorial and keep other cats and the odd dog away.

The family cat we had years ago used to chase dogs away, it was amazing to see.

I'd rather own a Harley than a cat.
I might invest in an air rifle...

[Zedder]

I'd rather own a Harley than a cat.
I might invest in an air rifle...

A Harley? Now I know you're trolling. What sort of person buys a Harley instead of an air rifle?

[Banditbandit]

The family cat we had years ago used to chase dogs away, it was amazing to see.

I had a cat-killing dog ... any cat that tried to stand up to him just died ...



A Harley? Now I know you're trolling. What sort of person buys a Harley instead of an air rifle?

You can't ride a cat to the Cemetry Circuit races - or between Auckland and Welington (well, I wouldn't try that on a Harley either) ... unless you want bad scratches on your thighs!!!

[Zedder]

[QUOTE=Banditbandit;1130489657]I had a cat-killing dog ... any cat that tried to stand up to him just died ...


It depends on the breed of dog. We had a Labrador and cat that got on really well.

[Banditbandit]

It depends on the breed of dog. We had a Labrador and cat that got on really well.

Bwhaha .. my cat killing dog was a Lab - great bush dog - always should me where the deer were .. and then sat behind me as soon as I worked the bolt .. he treated cats and possums the same - kill them all ...

[Zedder]

[QUOTE=Zedder;1130489673]

Bwhaha .. my cat killing dog was a Lab - great bush dog - always should me where the deer were .. and then sat behind me as soon as I worked the bolt .. he treated cats and possums the same - kill them all ...

That's interesting 'cos Labradors are mostly known for retrieving, not shoulding (showing I take it) or killing.

[Banditbandit]

[QUOTE=Banditbandit;1130489690]

That's interesting 'cos Labradors are mostly known for retrieving, not shoulding (showing I take it) or killing.

Yeah .. should = showed .. spelling is even more non-neurotypical than usual today .. and "edit" function is turned off ..

[Murray]

Cat lovers backlash coming big time

love the picture

[Crasherfromwayback]

says that the foundation was endowed with some of that money.

And it's fucking awesome that he's given so much to charity. Pretty sure he originally said he was gonna give it all away, as he was as you stated, well off before the TM sale.

But him giving money to various charities doesn't really mean he should talk as much shit about everything else as he does now days.

[Oscar]

And it's fucking awesome that he's given so much to charity. Pretty sure he originally said he was gonna give it all away, as he was as you stated, well off before the TM sale.

But him giving money to various charities doesn't really mean he should talk as much shit about everything else as he does now days.

I'm with him about cats, but he knows fuck all about football...

[Zedder]

And it's fucking awesome that he's given so much to charity. Pretty sure he originally said he was gonna give it all away, as he was as you stated, well off before the TM sale.

But him giving money to various charities doesn't really mean he should talk as much shit about everything else as he does now days.

Donations to charities are tax deducible but it depends on the motive behind it. This guy certainly appears to be a major attention seeker but also may do it to assuage his conscience.

[Crasherfromwayback]

, but he knows fuck all about football...

Yeah love to see him go down to a Hurricanes training session and try to join in. Think Hammett would drop kick him out of the park.


This guy certainly appears to be a major attention seeker but also may do it to assuage his conscience.

Could be part of it for sure.

[Swoop]

Isn't Gareth part cat?

He has the whiskers.

[Bald Eagle]

I'm with him about cats, but he knows fuck all about football...

He knows fuck all about a lot things, he just doesn't know it.

Economist - worst oxygen thieves outside of our prisons.

[mashman]

No mention of Mr Morgan's fight, but similar discussions seem to be being had in the UK (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/killer-domestic-cats--bbc-presenter-chris-packham-says--there-are-too-many-cats-in-the-uk---171602889.html#7hdE9Ez), with Chris Packham at the helm (not that you foreigners would know who he is).

[Paul in NZ]

Its a global conspiracy man....


http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/culturing-science/2013/01/29/killer-cats/?WT.mc_id=SA_Facebook



I agree with Mr Morgan. The SPCA policy on feral cats is NUTS and inconsistent with the dog one. Our fat lazy Tom who thinks stalking a tin of jellymeat is the ultimate expression of manly cat virtue adopted a feral kitten - she just loves the fat lazy sob. So - I thought I'll call the SPCA and wonder of wonders - they dropped off a trap - neutered the wee thing and returned her... Weird...

ITS FERAL CAT ffs....

Then the pet mad Daughter #2 gave it a name.... Bugger - that wrecked it...

OK - so now I'm stuck feeding 2 cats still - Vicki thinks she is cute and is convinced she will get a pat out of here one day...

[Zedder]

No mention of Mr Morgan's fight, but similar discussions seem to be being had in the UK (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/killer-domestic-cats--bbc-presenter-chris-packham-says--there-are-too-many-cats-in-the-uk---171602889.html#7hdE9Ez), with Chris Packham at the helm (not that you foreigners would know who he is).

Packham Smackham, it's Morgan we're bitchin' about you insolent immigrant you.

[mashman]

Packham Smackham, it's Morgan we're bitchin' about you insolent immigrant you.

but but but, Morgan's a motorcyclist, a member of the brotherhood, what happened? Did he not wave?

[Paul in NZ]

but but but, Morgan's a motorcyclist, a member of the brotherhood, what happened? Did he not wave?

No - its vastly worse than that. He thought he could do something good for all motorcyclists... No one likes a smartarse....

[oldrider]

Isn't Gareth part cat?

He has the whiskers.

Rumour has it he originally came from a pussy! :mellow: ( behaves like the pussy equivalent of a reformed smoker, aren't they usually the worst kind? )

[Zedder]

but but but, Morgan's a motorcyclist, a member of the brotherhood, what happened? Did he not wave?

Well Masho you too are a motorcyclist, a member of the "brotherhood", and we still hassle you.

[mashman]

Well Masho you too are a motorcyclist, a member of the "brotherhood", and we still hassle you.

I think Paul explained the reason for that a couple of posts ago :D (albeit the smart is most definitely replaceable with other choice phrases)

[Zedder]

I think Paul explained the reason for that a couple of posts ago :D (albeit the smart is most definitely replaceable with other choice phrases)

You're comparing yourself with Gareth Morgan? The horror! The horror!

[mashman]

You're comparing yourself with Gareth Morgan? The horror! The horror!

Fuck no... I understand football.

[Swoop]

You're comparing yourself with Gareth Morgan?
He has gutter whiskers?:scratch:

[Zedder]

Fuck no... I understand football.

That compensates for it a little bit I s'pose.

[Zedder]

He has gutter whiskers?:scratch:

Nah, he's spouting off.

[madmartin]

Don't need numbers ... cats kill endangered native birds ... and assist to make them extinct ...

And yeah .. I have pet cats .. and yeah ... I shoot ferals (also swerve for possums)

i swerved to avoid a possom once, middle of the night 130 around a corner... hit the bugger tho, bloody slippery little shits under an NSR's wheels that's for sure :shit:

[Banditbandit]

i swerved to avoid a possom once, middle of the night 130 around a corner... hit the bugger tho, bloody slippery little shits under an NSR's wheels that's for sure :shit:

Yeah .. they are that - dead or alive .. I only swerve to hit hem in my 4X4 (or any four wheels I happen to be using) on two wheels I try to avoid them - dead or alive ..