Riding naked and with no protection

[Maha]

The quandary is, though I very much like riding naked, it’s the ‘’no protection’’ bit that now has me thinking. …. The wind wash (or buffering) from some of the smaller trucks whilst following is annoying, even for a few moments.
A few weeks ago, I found it tiring riding into a stiff south wester.
The Yamaha has a small deflector out front, but you sit higher on it than what you do on say, a CB/XJR etc.

Not a great believer in adding screens to naked bikes, they are naked after all, and you buy them like that for a reason.
I relented and put a very small screen on CB, could hardly notice it and it worked a treat.
Don’t won’t to add a screen to the Yamaha, I like the aesthetics as they are.

Quite taken with the Tiger, had a decent ride on one late last year. That bike is a serious option and looking forward to the new breed arriving in March. (pic below)
The Sprint GT is a very nice bike in the flesh.
Still have soft spot for the ST also (Yes, I want another Triumph, can you tell?)
Outside chance I will look at both the VFR1200 and Z1000sx.

Don’t know, maybe I am just looking for an excuse to buy another bike?

[Banditbandit]

You need an excuse to buy another bike??? Or do you need an excuse to justify it to her indoors?

[bluninja]

I thought about the VFR1200....but the tank and range were not good in 2011 spec. Also thinking about the Z1000sx, but think for a second bike I want the ZXR14 in blue and black....seems NZ only gets them in green :(

[Road kill]

Yeah buy a Tiger,or a Sprint.

How bout a speed triple,,,Oh baby:drool:

Rocket,,,,,:devil2:

[Maha]

You need an excuse to buy another bike??? Or do you need an excuse to justify it to her indoors?
My wife is very understanding with such matters...no justification needed..:msn-wink:


I thought about the VFR1200....but the tank and range were not good in 2011 spec. Also thinking about the Z1000sx, but think for a second bike I want the ZXR14 in blue and black....seems NZ only gets them in green :(

Just can't see myself sticking with a naked bike, I love what I have and enjoy it very much, it just becomes quite taxing at times, physically.....and mentally after a long stint riding in the wind.
Both the Honda and Kawasaki (would have to be black) have been on my watchlist from time to time.

[ducatilover]

I have never seen the problem you bunch cry about with naked riding.
My Kawasaki is more fun without the fairings, there's no real neck strain unless you're above the top of third gear.

Are you just really, really old? :apumpin:

[Haggis2]

Naked riding? What about ATGATT? plus you might get a bug up the eye or something :lol:

[PrincessBandit]

The quandary is, though I very much like riding naked, it’s the ‘’no protection’’ bit that now has me thinking. ….



Pics!! Pics!!




On second thoughts, maybe not

[ducatilover]

Pics!! Pics!!




On second thoughts, maybe not

New bums on bikes thread?

[Maha]

Pics!! Pics!!




On second thoughts, maybe not

...and I was just about to load a pic, lucky I spotted the small text...:rolleyes:

[Madness]

But the VFR1200, that way you won't have to be naked to invoke vomiting from others you ride past. Fuck they're ugly.

[Maha]

But the VFR1200, that way you won't have to be naked to invoke vomiting from others you ride past. Fuck they're ugly.

The term 'outside chance' was an attempt to fill the list..in saying that, I like them but not really what I would look for in NEDWN VI.

[ducatilover]

Considered the Zuki GSR750? Kind of cool looking, if a bit over designed.
The Z1000 is cool
STAY NAKED!

[nallac]

Are you just really, really old? :apumpin:

This part is true.......

[Number One]

I very much like riding naked.... blah blah about the fairing etc...


I feel so let down Maha... I thought THIS thread had some promise.. alas

[Gremlin]

Small wind deflectors taking the full force off your chest can make a significant improvement. On the other hand, get the height of it wrong, and it can create more buffeting and/or turbulence around the helmet.

As for bikes... the VFR1200 is a pretty wicked ride, until you look at it again... it is bloody ugly, but it can get up and go. I prefer the old Z1000 over the new one, the new one looks like it's been flattened a bit with a press so it's shorter. Perhaps consider a CB1000R (except you can't buy them new). If you like the fazer though, I'd consider a small screen...

The new Tiger Sport has gone back to being more road orientated again, now that Triumph has the Explorer...

[Maha]

I feel so let down Maha... I thought THIS thread had some promise.. alas

In title only it would seem...those MNZ peeps might have it removed if it were anything untoward.....:shake:

Small wind deflectors taking the full force off your chest can make a significant improvement. On the other hand, get the height of it wrong, and it can create more buffeting and/or turbulence around the helmet.

As for bikes... the VFR1200 is a pretty wicked ride, until you look at it again... it is bloody ugly, but it can get up and go. I prefer the old Z1000 over the new one, the new one looks like it's been flattened a bit with a press so it's shorter. Perhaps consider a CB1000R (except you can't buy them new). If you like the fazer though, I'd consider a small screen...

The new Tiger Sport has gone back to being more road orientated again, now that Triumph has the Explorer...

I always look for something different when buying a new bike. Rode a CB1000R a while ago, that Ohlins gear is something else!!! :rolleyes:
Think I would go the ZED THOU way if it came to that, even over the FZ1.
But them being nakeds are off the list. At least with the Tiger Sport, you sit in the bike, it has a sports screen and, in my opinion, looks/sounds :drool:

Like I said in the begining, maybe I am just looking for an excuse.

PS: Thanks to the alert staff, this thread is now in it correct forum..

[gijoe1313]

Wind blast has always been an issue for some riders, others don't seem to notice or mind it (I'm in the enjoy it totally camp) - good to see you are sounding out some options, but it just boils down to an itch to buy yourself a new bike! Lucky man, you've got a good girl there who knows how you are! :msn-wink:

Use this as the perfect excuse to go and test ride plenty of options! :yes:

[Maha]

Wind blast has always been an issue for some riders, others don't seem to notice or mind it (I'm in the enjoy it totally camp) - good to see you are sounding out some options, but it just boils down to an itch to buy yourself a new bike! Lucky man, you've got a good girl there who knows how you are! :msn-wink:

Use this as the perfect excuse to go and test ride plenty of options! :yes:

Mmmmmm yeah options?...it used to be evey second year in July that I would walk into a bike shop and ,well, ride away on something different that what I rode there on.
Kept the Honda longer than two years, it was that good...exceptional for two-up riding loaded with gear.

[SPman]

Apparently most Tiger riders are long distance riders. Know a couple over here and they love them - and rack up the miles - in comfort.

[Banditbandit]

I guess I can sit in either camp. I loved the high screen on my BMW Paris Dakar (airhead 1000 version) ... it was the first faired bike I ever owned .. it's how I learnt to appreciate the value of a good screen.

My 1250 Bandit has what we used to call a "bikini" fairing ... and I know some people increase the size of the screen to cut down wind draft ... I don't notice it ... it's not as bad as trying to get 100miles an hour from a 650 Meridan Triumph with 12-inch ape-hangers. (Yeah, I am old)

I put a fly screen on my naked Bandit (a clear version of the one in pix below - bolts straight on to later model naked Bandits) I'm not sure how it affects the wind - I tend to think it affects it bugger all ... it certainly catches flies ... I put it there because I like the aesthetics more than the practicality - so I'm not disappointed ...

http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/img/p/21475-151-large.jpg

[Maha]

See, that to me, looks so wrong. It may well do the job but, I said earlier, we buy naked bikes for a reason.
And that reason is for the sensation the eliments throw at you whilst riding..well, for me anyway.
Under ''normal'' riding conditions, the FZ8 is absolutely fine, the purpose built tiny fly screen works a treat...

[Edbear]

See, that to me, looks so wrong. It may well do the job but, I said earlier, we buy naked bikes for a reason.
And that reason is for the sensation the eliments throw at you whilst riding..well, for me anyway.
Under ''normal'' riding conditions, the FZ8 is absolutely fine, the purpose built tiny fly screen works a treat...

Truth is we are so spoiled for choice these days we all want a variety in our garages. However most of us being not well endowed in the financial sense can only afford one at a time. Go and have fun testing as many as you can and maybe you'll find one you want to take home to meet the Missus...

[Grant`]

Im don't notice it anymore riding a naked bike. Used to affect me quite a lot..

Back protector helps me a lot just supports my riding position.

Have a few of them if you want to try riding with one for a while Mark?

But new bike would be a lot more exciting.

[Banditbandit]

See, that to me, looks so wrong.

Aesthetics are always personal taste ...


It may well do the job but, I said earlier, we buy naked bikes for a reason.
And that reason is for the sensation the eliments throw at you whilst riding..well, for me anyway.
Under ''normal'' riding conditions, the FZ8 is absolutely fine, the purpose built tiny fly screen works a treat...

I'm not sure the flyscreen on my naked Bandit actually does affect the wind ... I didnt really notice a change whern I put it on ..

[Maha]

WHOA!...I like this...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=508050841
It has that tourer screen going on, panniers and polished rims and best of all, it's black.

[Edbear]

WHOA!...I like this...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=508050841
It has that tourer screen going on, panniers and polished rims and best of all, it's black.

:2thumbsup. :drool: :niceone: :first: :love: :cry:

[Maha]

:2thumbsup. :drool: :niceone: :first: :love: :cry:

I have sent them an email about the bike, it was listed last year, just to enquire at this stage, thing is though, it doable and that it's a very nice (if not the best) example of a 1250 Bandit I have seen.

[BigAl]

Fark, talk about storage, you could even include the kitchen sink on that one.

[Edbear]

I have sent them an email about the bike, it was listed last year, just to enquire at this stage, thing is though, it doable and that it's a very nice (if not the best) example of a 1250 Bandit I have seen.

Heyup! That is gorgeous! I loved riding the 1250!

[Maha]

Fark, talk about storage, you could even include the kitchen sink on that one.

With Anne on the back, do I really need to pack that?...:dodge:


Heyup! That is gorgeous! I loved riding the 1250!

...just off the check if the new tyres will fit, learned my lesson last bike change....how keen am I?....:lol:
Have to wait for my finance advisor to talk me out of this...:rolleyes:

Tyres are a straight swap.

[Stylo]

Can the riders be naked as well ? :cool:


279914

[Maha]

My FA has informed that this can be done, just waiting to hear back from the Dealer re my email...such fun! :cool:

[Ocean1]

I have sent them an email about the bike, it was listed last year, just to enquire at this stage, thing is though, it doable and that it's a very nice (if not the best) example of a 1250 Bandit I have seen.

Think you'll find it's technically not a bandit. A TNAB, in fact.


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140568-Suzuki-GSX1250FA-(2011)-road-test


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151491-Suzuki-s-sport-tourer-GSX1250FA-review

[Maha]

Think you'll find it's technically not a bandit. A TNAB, in fact.




A Suzuki T'NAB?... I have subcribed to Hitcher's thread and will give a read tomorrow.
Real kean on this paticular 1250 tnab, just have to sit tight and see what Colemans come back with...if it does not happen for what ever reason, there is another option.

[Ocean1]

A Suzuki T'NAB?... I have subcribed to Hitcher's thread and will give a read tomorrow.
Real kean on this paticular 1250 tnab, just have to sit tight and see what Colemans come back with...if it does not happen for what ever reason, there is another option.

Basically a Bandit with GSXR suspenders, (+brakes?) and some touring related bling.

H found a novel way of disposing of his. Has a Z1, now, another nice semi-neked offering.

They were always a nice engine, only got better with the injection.

Not, y'understand a match for a big V twin...

[Mom]

WHOA!...I like this...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=508050841
It has that tourer screen going on, panniers and polished rims and best of all, it's black.

Bandit eh?


Fark, talk about storage, you could even include the kitchen sink on that one.

Eh?


With Anne on the back, do I really need to pack that?...:dodge:
Have to wait for my finance advisor to talk me out of this...:rolleyes:
Tyres are a straight swap.

Eh?


My FA has informed that this can be done, just waiting to hear back from the Dealer re my email...such fun! :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmezIIrFQmY

[BigAl]

Oh oh someone's on to you:clap:

[gwigs]

proper naked riding
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[Banditbandit]

WHOA!...I like this...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=508050841
It has that tourer screen going on, panniers and polished rims and best of all, it's black.


I still love mine ..

Yes, that's pretty - I'm not that impresed with the full fairing - I think the bikini looks better ... but that's a great touring bike

[Ocean1]

Real kean on this paticular 1250 tnab, just have to sit tight and see what Colemans come back with...if it does not happen for what ever reason, there is another option.

I see TSS have a blek one on the floor, $149mumble iirc. Give young Jimmy a call.

[gijoe1313]

Yeup, I can definitely see you riding that Maha! Good on ya for being such a bike slut! :niceone:

[Maha]

Yeup, I can definitely see you riding that Maha! Good on ya for being such a bike slut! :niceone:

Emails thus far have been favourable, and after reading Hitcher's threads on the bike, I'll be making an appointment with Mr Bank Man later......:sweatdrop
Anne does not like my option 2...:rolleyes:

[Maha]

I see TSS have a blek one on the floor, $149mumble iirc. Give young Jimmy a call.

Yes I have seen that, add an extra $2-2500 for the bits the one at Colemans has on it, and it's $15995.
I may try and neg a better price since its been on the floor for a while, full payment upon ride away must work in my favour......possibly? :rolleyes:

[Ocean1]

Yes I have seen that, add an extra $2-2500 for the bits the one at Colemans has on it, and it's $15995.
I may try and neg a better price since its been on the floor for a while, full payment upon ride away must work in my favour......possibly? :rolleyes:

The std zorst is a tad bulky, what extras has the Colemans item got other than the luggage?

And not nescessarily, the shop usually makes more if you finance it through them. That's why HD got into such trouble early in the GFC, they're basically a finance house that happens to make bikes.

[Maha]

The std zorst is a tad bulky, what extras has the Colemans item got other than the luggage?

And not nescessarily, the shop usually makes more if you finance it through them. That's why HD got into such trouble early in the GFC, they're basically a finance house that happens to make bikes.

The Touring screen, panniers, fittings, top box and fenda extender... $2000 worth all for $16995 incl ORC.
TSS bike is $13995 + ORC of $450 and if I want the gear on it like the Colemans bike (which is the deal sweetner here) another $2K bringing it to $16445...though they state it's 1450cc :rolleyes:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=511481919



Plus, the polished rims and black look stunning in my opinion.

[Ocean1]

The Touring screen, panniers, fittings, top box and fenda extender... $2000 worth all for $16995 incl ORC.
TSS bike is $13995 + ORC of $450 and if I want the gear on it like the Colemans bike (which is the deal sweetner here) another $2K bringing it to $16445...though they state it's 1450cc :rolleyes:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=511481919



Plus, the polished rims and black look stunning in my opinion.

Looks like there's no shortage of them. Stunning price outa the box, though, I'd struggle to buy a new dirt bike for that.

[ducatilover]

:rolleyes: I've always been a fan of how Red Baron have good pictures and a lot of details about the botormike they have advertised.


Sent from here, using sarcasm.

[Maha]

This part is true.......

........and on that, how ''BIG'' are you?...see in in a couple of hours :apint:

[Big Dave]

I am just looking for an excuse to buy another bike?

Pretty much.

Fairings are ghey.

[Maha]

Pretty much.

Fairings are ghey.

Your name came up late night when some crazy chap tried to entice me onto a Buell Ulysses...
....I asked about panniers for it, his comment about those, were the same as yours about fairings...;)
Was going to take it for ride this morning but, the rain is finally here so had a cooked breakfast in town and drove home.
It's as tall as the Tiger (which is not a problem) but the issue I have re wind wash, is prominant on the Buell as well, so it's off the list.

[Big Dave]

but the issue I have re wind wash,

I just don't get this sorry. Never bothered me on any naked motorcycle under 140kph.

I hate the racket and buffeting a lot of screens and bodywork make much worse.

FWIW I sold my Buell partly because it's a parts dead end.

Don't get me started on Buell panniers - the worst value POS I ever bought for a motorcycle.

[Kittyhawk]

This thread is highly misleading! :lol:

[Big Dave]

This thread is highly misleading! :lol:

If you are offering to rectify that I can bring a good camera.

[Kittyhawk]

If you are offering to rectify that I can bring a good camera.

Lol, this fairy elephant dont do cameras

[Ocean1]

I just don't get this sorry. Never bothered me on any naked motorcycle under 140kph.

I hate the racket and buffeting a lot of screens and bodywork make much worse.

Those effects are hugely dependant bike/rider/helmet combinations, what's a good combination for one guy will be crap for another. Maha orta know that, so I suspect ruling the X out without having riden it isn't the real dealbreaker, eh?


FWIW I sold my Buell partly because it's a parts dead end.

Was partly the reason I sold the CR. Very, very reluctantly. Don't worry me as much with the X, parts are interchangeable with a lot of other stuff, and if it's still a problem I can make it.


Don't get me started on Buell panniers - the worst value POS I ever bought for a motorcycle.

They were fucking huge, and still managed to look cool, not an easy design asignment. If the latches had actually lasted for longer than a week they'd have been as downright practical as the rest of the bike. Must admit you didn't want to forget they were there while navigating carparks and the like...

The later ones work faultlessly, they're just a bit lacking in style.

[Big Dave]

and if it's still a problem I can make it.

.

If I was in a martial arts movie it would be called 'Fists of Ham'.


Oh noes - he's got me started. The bags were close to $2k retail, the ironwork was so finicky installing it invented 6 new cuss words and in the end I just left it (the frames) on - ugly as it was as it rusted away.
The latches were made of cheese and the weather seal stayed intact for about 1 opening and closing. Then they filled up with water in a light shower.

Compared to the outstanding functionality of the rest of the bike it was a sad bit. Only other thing was the front mudguard was non-functional too.

[Maha]

Those effects are hugely dependant bike/rider/helmet combinations, what's a good combination for one guy will be crap for another. Maha orta know that, so I suspect ruling the X out without having riden it isn't the real dealbreaker, eh?


I have put some money down a bike today (NEDWN VI) hope to tidy things up at the other end of this week, mine is for sale on two sites but not such an issue if it does not sell quickly. Can get those tyres swpped over in between.
Anne likes buells, me?.....not so much, well not for what I want out of a bike anyway. My brief in a bike now is all about comfort, loaded up with shit or not. The CB I had was partly that.

[BigAl]

I have put some money down a bike today (NEDWN VI) hope to tidy things up at the other end of this week, mine is for sale on two sites but not such an issue if it does not sell quickly. Can get those tyres swpped over in between.
Anne like buells, me?.....not so much, well not for what I want out of a bike anyway. My brief in a bike now is all about comfort, loaded up with shit or not. The CB I had was partly that.

What are you getting Maha, the suzook?

[Maha]

What are you getting Maha, the suzook?

There were several I was keen on, the kawasaki 1000sx/1050 Tiger and the new Tiger sport (due in NZ about I think?)
The Kawasaki would have been at a stretch to be honest. One other bike popped into view last week that ticked all the boxes and yes, it's the Suzuki.
All personal reasons I went for the Suzuki, which is why you buy a bike right? Those reasons are...


The write-ups from Hitcher/Jantar
Long distance rider comfort.
Laggage capacity.
Its all that I want/need in a bike.
My wife likes it, and will suit her as a pillion if needs be.
Several thousand less than the other options.
Value for money.
Looks fanatstic.

[Ocean1]

Anne likes buells, me?.....not so much, well not for what I want out of a bike anyway. My brief in a bike now is all about comfort, loaded up with shit or not.

The only bike I've ridden that matches the X for comfort, for me, is the Bro's R1200GSA. And that doesn't meet some of my other requirements quite as well.


All personal reasons I went for the Suzuki, which is why you buy a bike right?

Correct. http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/EP102934.pdf

Disturbing, innit?

[gijoe1313]

:niceone: Good on ya mate!

[Mom]

:niceone: Good on ya mate!

At least he is trying all the makes. Not sure what I will do if he turns to the dark side though :laugh:

[nzspokes]

There were several I was keen on, the kawasaki 1000sx/1050 Tiger and the new Tiger sport (due in NZ about I think?)
The Kawasaki would have been at a stretch to be honest. One other bike popped into view last week that ticked all the boxes and yes, it's the Suzuki.
All personal reasons I went for the Suzuki, which is why you buy a bike right? Those reasons are...


The write-ups from Hitcher/Jantar
Long distance rider comfort.
Laggage capacity.
Its all that I want/need in a bike.
My wife likes it, and will suit her as a pillion if needs be.
Several thousand less than the other options.
Value for money.
Looks fanatstic.

Sweet. Nice bikes.

Good site here for info on them, http://nswbandits.forumotion.net/

[Maha]

At least he is trying all the makes. Not sure what I will do if he turns to the dark side though :laugh:

Not old enough for that to happen....nor do have enough badges for the vest that I also don't have...:nya: