Official political party policy on sports bikes

[Bartman10]

I wrote this to 7 political parties today... Check out the responses. Politics is amazing! :rofl:

Dear political party leaders

In light of the upcomming election, could you please state your
offical party policy on the use of high powered sports motorcycles?

1./ Are you going to increase speed limits for high powered sports motorcycles?

2./ Are you going to make any roads 'motorcycle only'?

3./ Are you going to reduce registration charges for on high powered
motorcycles?

4./ Will you make it legal to pull wheelstands and other motorcycle
stunts on public roads?

5./ Will you reduce fuel taxes for sports motorcycles?

There are potentially several thousand votes at stake here. I look
forward to your response.

GREEN:

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. No
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Progressives


The Progressive Party does not have policy positions on the matters you
raise, and is unlikely to develop policies specifically in this area.

The Progressives, unlike the way some other parties appear to operate, do
not set their policies solely on the basis of how many people they think
might vote for them if they take a particular line or position (although
they hope that their policies will be attractive enough for significant
numbers of people to do so). The policies are developed on the basis of
what the Progressives feel with be best for New Zealand and its citizens,
and in particular in the interests of maintaining and asserting that New
Zealand is a fair go society in which no-one if excluded or left behind.

Yours sincerely
_____________
UNITED FUTURE

Thank you for your e-mail. I have forwarded it onto our
Parliamentary research team to get back to you with an answer.
You can expect to hear from them shortly.
_____________
NZ FIRST

Thank you for your email.

I have forwarded your questions to our Transport Spokesperson, Peter Brown
MP, for his consideration.

Yours sincerely

_________

LABOUR:

Kia ora,

Thank you for your e-mail message. It is difficult to respond to
the many e-mail messages received. We do however read
everything that is sent and if a unique issue has been raised or
new information presented we will respond as soon as possible.

Naku noa, na


__________________

Is United future serious? Parliamentary research team? For wheelstands on public roads... Ha Ha.. At least the greens are honest!

I'll add more if I get any more replies from any other parties.

:rofl: :rofl:

[erik]

LOL :)  

[Riff Raff]

Well done there. Did you send one to Destiny? I'd be interested to see what Brian Tamaki comes up with. It should be an issue close to his heart - perhaps we should bribe him with a sportsbike and see what his reaction is!

[SuperDave]

Labour's is fucken classic. So is your issue one to respond to? I take it not. But then again, your questions arn't very serious or sensible and won't bring us motorcyclists any more favour, Nor do I think they will ensure that any political party gives more of a shit about us than they do at present.

[Sniper]

Lol, very good

[inlinefour]

For "A representative of Don Brash". Without asking if I wanted to talk to him, he started with the political bullshit. I stopped him after about thirty seconds and asked him "whats 20 inches long and hangs from a c%#t"? The bloke paused and said "err, I have no idea". I quickly replied "Don Brash's tie"! and hung up quick. Hope he forwards that on to Don. :devil2:

[Zapf]

How about NZ First? didn't he enter the stage on the back of a cruiser?

[placidfemme]

"whats 20 inches long and hangs from a c%#t"? The bloke paused and said "err, I have no idea". I quickly replied "Don Brash's tie"! and hung up quick. Hope he forwards that on to Don. :devil2:

:rofl: :rofl: LMAO... now that was good!

[crazylittleshit]

So going to vote for greens, at least they have a back bone. :psst:

[Smorg]

So going to vote for greens, at least they have a back bone. :psst:

Pity about their public face that dude with the dreads is sooooo fucken feral :nono:

[Wolf]

Pushing your own agenda a bit aren't you, bartman10? High powered sports bikes, wheelies on public roads, preferential treatment for high powered "sprots bikes"? What about the rest of the biker community? :devil2:

Interesting that the Greens obviously read it and replied while the others just sent an automated message of the "we are looking into it" variety. Shows exactly how much notice the political parties take of their constituents. They're too busy telling us they care about what we want to actually listen to what we want. :oi-grr:

I'd almost vote for Green but I think there are too many flakes in it (LiasTZ will be surprised - I'm a "hippy" in his opinion).

It would be interesting to see the parties' responses to questions about cheese-cutter barriers, reducing the number of cars on the roads, amendments to the motorcycle restrictions on Learner and Restricted licences, promoting motorcycles as an alternative to "one person per car", additional free motorcycle parking in towns etc.

[DemonWolf]

I agree with Wolf.. would be interesting to see what 'our' political parties policies (if any) are concerning motorcycles, or do they all just view truck \ car owners as the only road users. Cheap and effective measures dont 'cut' it... Effective measures should the be the standard for all road users. bah, I'm just sick of all the freaking patch-work roadworks going on.. its just plain stupid IMHO

[Wolf]

Cheap and effective measures dont 'cut' it...
Sadly, one of their cheap measures does 'cut' things - like any poor sap of a biker that hits the barrier.

[ManDownUnder]

Well done there. Did you send one to Destiny? I'd be interested to see what Brian Tamaki comes up with. It should be an issue close to his heart - perhaps we should bribe him with a sportsbike and see what his reaction is!

sick sick sick...

The Bish isn't after material goods - he's said so a thousand time - you only have to look at the man to see where his real interests lie..












:rofl:

[Lias]

(LiasTZ will be surprised - I'm a "hippy" in his opinion).
Then again I thiink everyone who's left of centre are hippies :violin:

Now Playing: Suicidal Tendencies - Hippiekiller :devil2:

[Wolf]

Then again I thiink everyone who's left of centre are hippies
Quoth the bloke who's further left-wing than me :rofl:

More accurately, he thinks anyone more liberal than Josef Stalin is a hippy

[hondacmx450]

hahah i like it thay r good points

[ManDownUnder]

At the risk of dragging this all back on topic...

What ARE the things that're sought? The ability to do wheelies etc aren't high on my list - in fact I see that as a threat to other road users (my good self included). There are tracks and other places to prcatice that.

For me I want
1) Safety. Barriers and other issues posing a threat to motorcylists need to be changed. I don't expect this to be at the expense of other road users, but similarly I don;t expect their safety to be at my expense.

2) Identification and removal of confounding policies. I.e. I can use a bus lane, sometimes, in some places and still can't go through traffic lights as they're under a different jurisdiction etc etc etc.

That's confusing bullshit and there is no way we're supposed to stay abreast of it, let alone obey.

One rule - you can, or can not use baus lanes and associated controls - nationwide, end of story.

Make your bloody minds up

3) Economy and efficiency of transport. Bikes are cheaper and faster than most other forms of transport - don't impede them. Give them priviledged access to special vehicle lanes, bus lanes (2 above notwithstanding) etc.

What else is there?
MDU

[Lias]

1) Safety. Barriers and other issues posing a threat to motorcylists need to be changed. I don't expect this to be at the expense of other road users, but similarly I don;t expect their safety to be at my expense.


I'd like to see wire barriers outlawed.. I dont CARE if they are safer for cagers, they are deadly piano wire for us, and every time I have to drive on a stretch of road with these barriers it really gives me the shits.


3) Economy and efficiency of transport. Bikes are cheaper and faster than most other forms of transport - don't impede them. Give them priviledged access to special vehicle lanes, bus lanes (2 above notwithstanding) etc.


I'd be all for it but I cant see it happening unless the Greens become a majority partner in an alliance (about as likely as George Bush declaring all is forgiven and hugging Osama Bin Laden)

[Pancakes]

Lanesplitting, (my favourite!). The law at present is you can pass in the same lane if there is room to do so and you indicate but only on the right of other vehicles not the left (undertaking). I feel that this was probably designed for single laned roads and should stay the same on single laned roads but for motorways there is as much chance of someone changing lanes left as there is of them changing to the right and all the same hazards are present in both situations. Eliminating the penalty for undertaking on multi-laned roads (not including the far left lane of course) would be worth petitioning but it might jeparise (sp?) the right to pass in the same lane on the right if the correct aproach isn't taken. There is normally more room on the left because boxes steer from the right and the box racers are more aware of where the right line is and hug it.

[raster]

At the risk of dragging this all back on topic...

What ARE the things that're sought? The ability to do wheelies etc aren't high on my list - in fact I see that as a threat to other road users (my good self included). There are tracks and other places to prcatice that.

For me I want
1) Safety. Barriers and other issues posing a threat to motorcylists need to be changed. I don't expect this to be at the expense of other road users, but similarly I don;t expect their safety to be at my expense.

2) Identification and removal of confounding policies. I.e. I can use a bus lane, sometimes, in some places and still can't go through traffic lights as they're under a different jurisdiction etc etc etc.

That's confusing bullshit and there is no way we're supposed to stay abreast of it, let alone obey.

One rule - you can, or can not use baus lanes and associated controls - nationwide, end of story.

Make your bloody minds up

3) Economy and efficiency of transport. Bikes are cheaper and faster than most other forms of transport - don't impede them. Give them priviledged access to special vehicle lanes, bus lanes (2 above notwithstanding) etc.

What else is there?
MDU

I'm with you on that MDU,
Whats wrong with bikes using the left side of the motorway with a limit of 80 Ks or something.
I spoke to a Cop who thort the Bus lane law was crap and not very well managed.

[Ixion]

Yes. I think that NZ should follow the UK practice. There is neithe rlogic nor justification in the present rules.

I would also like to see changes to the learner regime. Especially removal of the idiotic L plate, 70kph and 250cc restrictions (restrict on the basis of approved models if they wish, like Oz )

EDIT : And ban the bloody cheesecutters

[mstriumph]

I'm a right wing extremist hippy [obviously with suicidal tendencies since i'm posting here ...] :chase:

Then again I thiink everyone who's left of centre are hippies :violin:

Now Playing: Suicidal Tendencies - Hippiekiller :devil2:

[Jabez]

At the risk of dragging this all back on topic...

What ARE the things that're sought? The ability to do wheelies etc aren't high on my list - in fact I see that as a threat to other road users (my good self included). There are tracks and other places to prcatice that.

For me I want
1) Safety. Barriers and other issues posing a threat to motorcylists need to be changed. I don't expect this to be at the expense of other road users, but similarly I don;t expect their safety to be at my expense.

2) Identification and removal of confounding policies. I.e. I can use a bus lane, sometimes, in some places and still can't go through traffic lights as they're under a different jurisdiction etc etc etc.

That's confusing bullshit and there is no way we're supposed to stay abreast of it, let alone obey.

One rule - you can, or can not use baus lanes and associated controls - nationwide, end of story.

Make your bloody minds up

3) Economy and efficiency of transport. Bikes are cheaper and faster than most other forms of transport - don't impede them. Give them priviledged access to special vehicle lanes, bus lanes (2 above notwithstanding) etc.

What else is there?
MDU

I agree... :Punk:

[Eurygnomes]

I agree with all of MDU's 3 points.
I agree with removing the speed restrictions for L-platers (up to 100kph).
I've no opinion on the lane-splitting (since I don't - but I had to defend those who do at dinner the other night)
I think that's the lot...

[Squiggles]

how bout someone ask them about their policy for motorbike licensing..... ;)

[Beemer]

how bout someone ask them about their policy for motorbike licensing..... ;)

True - I think it should be like driver licensing - one person, one licence for each class they need, not a separate licence for every vehicle/bike they use. We have three cars and six bikes - and only one is a dirt bike so that's a huge whack we have to pay every year if we want to use them all on the road. They should work out some equable way of paying it through your petrol taxes - so you only pay for what you are using at that time.

[Squiggles]

have united future replied yet? :D

[stunz]

sounds like the greens are the only ones that dont have auto reply turned on.

[ALTRON]

I would of thought the hippy greens would of been all for motorcycles? Bikes don't use as much gas as cars (I think?) Exhaust emissions are lower and don't cause mass traffic jams.

Stupid hippies.

[Lou Girardin]

I've no opinion on the lane-splitting (since I don't - but I had to defend those who do at dinner the other night)
I think that's the lot...

Would you like to elaborate on this?
Did they think we were queue jumpers?

[Pixie]

I would of thought the hippy greens would of been all for motorcycles? Bikes don't use as much gas as cars (I think?) Exhaust emissions are lower and don't cause mass traffic jams.

Stupid hippies.
The only bikes the greens endorse are powered by meusli and mung beans

[kerryg]

Would you like to elaborate on this?
Did they think we were queue jumpers?

At the risk of being scorned for saying this, lanesplitting is fine but I reckon it has to be done sensibly and courteously. Dumb things like hitting the mirror of a cage when lanesplitting (possibly illegally, depending on the circumstances) because you misjudged the gap gives bikers a bad rep. Slipping in front of the first car queued at the lights is OK but if in doing it you have your bike well out into the intersection, where you shouldn't be, or you're on the inside of the car in the left lane, or get in the wrong lane and just rely on superior acceleration to get clear from the lights etc...they make bikers seem inconsiderate arseholes. I think bikers have to show respect if they want to get it back. Just my humble opinion. It would help too to have a clearer public perception (no idea how to accomplish it..I leave that to smarter fullas) of when lanesplitting is allowed, and not...I know the whys and whereforea have been endlessly debated here but there seems a grey area at best. Most cage drivers (I am only speculating here) probably consider lanesplitting is illegal in whatever circumstance and therefore that bikers are flouting the law.

[BNZ]

Well done there. Did you send one to Destiny? I'd be interested to see what Brian Tamaki comes up with. It should be an issue close to his heart - perhaps we should bribe him with a sportsbike and see what his reaction is!

grrrrr. He aint getting anything from me.

[Smorg]

grrrrr. He aint getting anything from me.

He can have something from me................ :kick: :ar15: :finger: :2guns: :Pokey:
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