View Full Version : drink driveing not worth it.
soundbeltfarm
15th August 2005, 19:38
of those 3 people that got killed in the van here in taranaki i knew 1 and knew his father really well one of the others is a close cousin of one of my mates and i also knew the driver of the car responsible for doing this to them.
it really hits home when this happens and you know alot of the peopple involved.
ive never drunk and drivin or even ridden when im full but ive never really thought about other people doing it.
but if you live in a small populated place and you drink drive its not if you get caught by the cops its if you hit someone you are probably going to know someone affected.
all i say is is you drink then drive you are a fuck head.
the guy that hit them i thought was a good guy but now im like what a fucktard.
anyway thats my veiw.
please if you are out and on the wee's dont even contemplate driving or riding home or wherever, its not worth it.
onearmedbandit
15th August 2005, 20:00
Drink drivers rate very low on my list. I have no respect for them, wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire. Fuckers.
Paul in NZ
15th August 2005, 20:00
Genuinely sorry to hear that mate!.... Everyone has family, every accident has many many victims..
If you drive drunk you are risking too much thats not yours to risk...
Sniper
15th August 2005, 20:53
Drink drivers cause so much shit
Lou Girardin
16th August 2005, 12:40
The difference between drunks that kill and us is that we do give a shit. Most of those scum are recidivists, nothing will stop them short of removing limbs.
That filth in Taranaki kept driving for 40 mins after losing the cops. How much warning did the prick need?
DemonWolf
16th August 2005, 12:49
Sorry to hear that soundbeltfarm.. its always hardest when you know someone.
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bugjuice
16th August 2005, 14:09
doesn't take an accident like that to know it's a fukin stupid thing to do.. My heart goes out to those who knew the good people in the van. They all seemed like there were on agood paths in their lives, and so lifelife fukwit robs them of it. Just not fair.
TonyB
16th August 2005, 14:24
It always amazes me when I talk to seemingly rational, intelligent people who think that the reason you don't drink and drive is because "it's not worth it- you might get caught". What about "you might kill yourself, or worse, have to live with killing someone else"?
As for the dickheads who think it's all right to smoke dope and then drive "cause it makes you safer- you drive slower". Erm- have they considered that they might be driving slower because their brains are operating slower and have difficulty processing all of the information being thrown at them?? A bit like your 83 year old granny, she drives slow for the same reason- slowed reaction times and a slower 'processor speed'.
onearmedbandit
16th August 2005, 14:45
Tony, while I don't condone driving after smoking, I would beg to differ about generalising the effects on the smokers brain. I do smoke and I don't find it slows my mind down at all. In fact I feel I process things quicker as for myself it is both a pain 'relief' and also a stimulant. I love learning new things after a smoke, I retain what I've learnt impeccably. I enjoy reading books, currently reading a book by Stephen Hawking, always pick it up after a smoke. I know it has different effects on different people, just don't generalise it. You may have a different opinion than me on this issue, and I respect what you believe, but don't put me in the same group of un-motivated brain dead people who choose to smoke.
TonyB
16th August 2005, 14:59
don't put me in the same group of un-motivated brain dead people who choose to smoke.
Not something I would ever do- I didn't realise you smoked it, but I can see why you would. As you say it has different effects on different people. I'm pretty sure my doctor smokes the stuff for stress relief, and it certainly doesn't slow his brain down. If it did, he wouldn't be my doc. With some people it definitely fucks with their minds, which is why I don't smoke it.
onearmedbandit
16th August 2005, 15:13
Exactly, you never realised I smoked it. I don't exactly fit the typical view of someone who smokes. But I can understand your point, as I too know people who shouldn't drive after a smoke. I also know people who shouldn't drive fullstop.
Lou Girardin
16th August 2005, 16:32
5th Gear did a test with a regular dope smoker who did a set route sober. Then he had a spliff and redid the course. The second time had fewer errors and was done in the same time.
Although he thought it took longer, maaaan.
Beemer
16th August 2005, 16:33
It always amazes me when I talk to seemingly rational, intelligent people who think that the reason you don't drink and drive is because "it's not worth it- you might get caught". What about "you might kill yourself, or worse, have to live with killing someone else"?
I would feel dreadful if I ever had an accident and harmed or killed someone even I were sober - I don't think I could live with myself if I had been drinking at the time. There would always be that "what if I hadn't had a drink? Would I have reacted quicker?" Yes, the financial penalty is one thing, but the likelihood of harming some other innocent motorist (have you noticed how most of the drink drive offenders survive the horrific accidents that kill their victims?) is the biggest reason why I don't risk drinking and driving. It would NEVER be worth it.
I don't care if the offender is a rubbish collector, unemployed, a lawyer or a mother of three - if they choose to drink and drive, they aren't worth a toss. My condolences to the families and friends of the victims - they did all the right things and were decent people but all it takes is one idiot and the fact of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
sir.pratt
16th August 2005, 16:44
So where are all those wanky civil libertarians that have laid the base for police pulling out of 'dangerous' pusuits now? Their silence is deafening
Lou Girardin
16th August 2005, 17:15
So where are all those wanky civil libertarians that have laid the base for police pulling out of 'dangerous' pusuits now? Their silence is deafening
Wasn't the reason something to do with an unacceptable number of deaths during pursuits.
Or is it OK if someone gets killed while you're trying to stop a driver from killing someone :confused:
scumdog
16th August 2005, 17:30
Genuinely sorry to hear that mate!.... Everyone has family, every accident has many many victims..
If you drive drunk you are risking too much thats not yours to risk...
Sorry PINZ, it wasn't an ACCIDENT.
BTW Most 1st or 2nd time E.B.A.s only get fines equal to their breath-alcohol level yet the top limit is $4,500 for 1st timers!!!
Soft-cock judges. :weird:
And the drink drivers we pull in feel hard done by :crazy:
Paul in NZ
16th August 2005, 17:35
Sorry PINZ, it wasn't an ACCIDENT.
Good call...
sir.pratt
16th August 2005, 18:18
Wasn't the reason something to do with an unacceptable number of deaths during pursuits.
Or is it OK if someone gets killed while you're trying to stop a driver from killing someone :confused:
so by that logic, 3 deaths after a pursuit has been called off are ok though, cause at least the cops weren't chasing.
i see he's been charged with manslaughter. that's a start at least. as well as at least 10 years cumulative per death, he should be fined $100 000 per death - if he has to take a mortgage, too bad. if his family has to pay, too bad. THEN maybe other drunken killers might start to take notice.
spudchucka
17th August 2005, 09:52
Wasn't the reason something to do with an unacceptable number of deaths during pursuits.
Or is it OK if someone gets killed while you're trying to stop a driver from killing someone :confused:
The cops should have been able to ram the arsehole off the road. Too bad if he gets killed, he's just a worthless piece of shit anyway. At least they would have prevented the three innocents from getting killed.
Lou Girardin
17th August 2005, 10:02
The trouble is, sirr pratt and Spud, you cannot predict WHO may get killed. As the young woman south of Whangarei discovered. (Just before she died)
These killers will never take notice. You guys are thinking like relatively normal humans, this scrap of pond scum will not give a shit for what he's done. The number of psycho/sociopaths in society is generally not realised, he is almost certain to be one too. I'd be interested to know his previous history.
BTW What's with rep rugby players and fatals? Eric Rush, this guy?
spudchucka
18th August 2005, 21:32
The trouble is, sirr pratt and Spud, you cannot predict WHO may get killed. As the young woman south of Whangarei discovered. (Just before she died)
These killers will never take notice. You guys are thinking like relatively normal humans, this scrap of pond scum will not give a shit for what he's done. The number of psycho/sociopaths in society is generally not realised, he is almost certain to be one too. I'd be interested to know his previous history.
BTW What's with rep rugby players and fatals? Eric Rush, this guy?
If a psyhcho was walking down the street with a gun, threatening people he or she would likely be shot. If the same psycho is driving a car down the road, posing a very real threat to innocent people then he or she should be taken out in a similar manner but instead me pussy foot around them and they end up doing what this cock has done.
Rugby clubs + Booze culture + cars + little to no intelligence = you know the answer.
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