Which Gopro?

[nzspokes]

Im thinking of getting a Gopro so I can watch what I do wrong. :brick:

Ive seen an old Hero HD cheap on The Warehouse site, http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/catalog/product/GoPro-HD-Hero-Naked-Action-Sports-Camera?SKU=1671530

And the White 3 version for $339.

Im not after mega movie type quality, just so I can look at it later. Which of these two is better or should I look for one of the other versions?

I don't know much about them but borrowed a older Hero HD and it worked well.

[Asher]

Slightly off topic but i just ordered this pack:
http://dx.com/p/waterproof-multifunction-dv-mounting-holder-bracket-for-rd32-rd32ii-rd33-rd36-more-black-154085

Way cheaper than the genuine stuff.

[steve_t]

If you can get a cheap second hand HD, I rate that as better value for money than a new Hero3. All sorts of problems with the H3!! :brick:

[nzspokes]

If you can get a cheap second hand HD, I rate that as better value for money than a new Hero3. All sorts of problems with the H3!! :brick:

What problems? The Warehouse one is on of the original HDs.

[andy 101]

I have been using the hero 3 for filming close ups on the tracks and are having alsorts of problems with it, will not turn on, loses wifi connection to phone, some times does not fully charge up, and the camra settings are changing all by themselves. until they sort the problems out I would not recommend one, I think the problems are caused by the updated firmware.

[motor_mayhem]

Have a Hero3 (black) and no troubles with it at all. The video quality is outstanding.

[noobi]

How computer 'literate' are you?
What kind of computer would you be viewing/editing footage on?

[Coldrider]

I've got the original 1080 HD GP, from the dealers at $175, so how does the wharryhouse parallel import them for more?, nothing wrong with the original model.

[Coldrider]

Alot of the problems associated with GO Hero cameras is using the incorrect 'class' of SD cards. The original hero recommends class 4, using class 10 creates all sorts of agony (lost recordings), even though it should be better. Class 6 is required for continuous shot stills. Have no experience with Hero 2 & 3, but stick to the minimum class recommendations, and find a cheap source of SD cards, (the local big box stores will not be cheap enough).
NZSpokes, find your local GP Hero stockists and get a proper price for the original model.

[nzspokes]

Alot of the problems associated with GO Hero cameras is using the incorrect 'class' of SD cards. The original hero recommends class 4, using class 10 creates all sorts of agony (lost recordings), even though it should be better. Class 6 is required for continuous shot stills. Have no experience with Hero 2 & 3, but stick to the minimum class recommendations, and find a cheap source of SD cards, (the local big box stores will not be cheap enough).
NZSpokes, find your local GP Hero stockists and get a proper price for the original model.

Cool, will do. Thanks for that.

[nzspokes]

How computer 'literate' are you?
What kind of computer would you be viewing/editing footage on?

Im ok on the computer. Not really after making professional vids just to laugh at myself and maybe put the odd bit up on utube for mates.

Im on a HP laptop with windows 8.

[steve_t]

If it's just for basic stuff, you can either just upload to youtube as is or you can edit. You can use the free GoPro Cineform software to do some basic editing and the free Movie Maker software with windows (if you have windows) to add some basic fancy schmancy things like a song in the background. Just be aware that if you use mainstream music, youtube will take your video down. There are a few sites to get 'free for non-commercial use' music like Jamendo

[noobi]

The problem with the newer 2 and 3 model gopros is that they record at such a high video quality that you can run into issues with computers not being able to even smoothly play back video. Which is related to the speed of the graphics card, hence why I asked.
Also, you need the class 10 SD cards, as the write speed on lower class cards isn't capable of writing certain video settings, resulting in choppy video or corrupt recordings.

[jt119]

ive got the two and it seems ok but fogs up in the wet even with the open back door looks good when you plug them into the tv to watch

[oldskool]

ive got the two and it seems ok but fogs up in the wet even with the open back door looks good when you plug them into the tv to watch

Yeah that totally sux ay. You think you've got some good footage to shame your mates and it's unusable because of the fog. They run too hot inside the protective casing.

[nzspokes]

The problem with the newer 2 and 3 model gopros is that they record at such a high video quality that you can run into issues with computers not being able to even smoothly play back video. Which is related to the speed of the graphics card, hence why I asked.
Also, you need the class 10 SD cards, as the write speed on lower class cards isn't capable of writing certain video settings, resulting in choppy video or corrupt recordings.

I see above if I get a early model its best I run a class 4 card?

[Big Dave]

I have H1 and H2 - the H2 does fog up annoyingly in some circumstances - particularly with the LCD back installed. Has better qual then the H1 overall.

Computer isn't that critical anymore - You can edit videos on You Tube if you don't mind waiting for it to crunch them.

[Big Dave]

A good quality class 4 card. A Dick Smith will only disappoint. DAMHIK.

[noobi]

I see above if I get a early model its best I run a class 4 card?

The class is related to how fast the card can write data, no more. So specifying a class 4 most likely means 4 or greater, to avoid issues with not writing sufficient data from the camera. However, not all SD cards are created equal, a class 10 16GB card from one brand may not be of equal performance to another class 10 16GB card from another brand. Name brand isn't always a guarantee of performance either.

I run class 10 cards in my HD hero with no issues.

[NordieBoy]

H1 is fine, H2 is much better in low light.

Both fog up but gopro do inserts to remove the moisture.

I want an H2 so I can use the wifi back and remote and preview it on the phone.
The H1 will use the remote but not do preview.

I usually use the battery backpac and record at 720p onto a 16Gb card. The batteries will last about 5hrs and the card is about full at the end.

[nzspokes]

The class is related to how fast the card can write data, no more. So specifying a class 4 most likely means 4 or greater, to avoid issues with not writing sufficient data from the camera. However, not all SD cards are created equal, a class 10 16GB card from one brand may not be of equal performance to another class 10 16GB card from another brand. Name brand isn't always a guarantee of performance either.

I run class 10 cards in my HD hero with no issues.

Whats a good brand to get for the card then?

[noobi]

Whats a good brand to get for the card then?

Kind of like asking, whats a good oil to use in my bike.

I've used Apacer, and Kingston with not too many bad experiences. The SanDisk Extreme is often touted as 'the best sd card'. Its up to you.

[motor_mayhem]

Using Sandisk Extreme - works great.

Had to put a dual core processor in my pc so it could play the footage though

[nzspokes]

Kind of like asking, whats a good oil to use in my bike.

I've used Apacer, and Kingston with not too many bad experiences. The SanDisk Extreme is often touted as 'the best sd card'. Its up to you.

Im not that a bigger user of SD cards to be picky. Just want to start out with a good brand.

[nzspokes]

H1 is fine, H2 is much better in low light.

Both fog up but gopro do inserts to remove the moisture.

I want an H2 so I can use the wifi back and remote and preview it on the phone.
The H1 will use the remote but not do preview.

I usually use the battery backpac and record at 720p onto a 16Gb card. The batteries will last about 5hrs and the card is about full at the end.

Not to ask an obvious question but when do they fog? Is it anytime or just when its humid? The one I borrowed had a non waterproof case and it was fine.

[Coldrider]

Kingston is recommended for hero 1, i use Transend 32GB class 4(cos i got them for $37 each and they worked) and record at 720 30 f/p/s and record 8.5 hours of riding time, with the battery continuously charged from a USB wired to my ride. 3 SD cards generally cover a SI tour.

You can get info from the Go pro site about which brands do and don't work before you spend your hard earned dollars.
Class 4 is recommended for my camera on their technical brochure, they know better than me and they have worked. I agree with the write speeds on full HD and the class speeds of the SD cards, but i have had no issues with my camera. If anything technical does not work for me as planned it is binned instantaneously. I love my Hero 1.

[nzspokes]

So going by whats being said here, a Hero HD will be fine for the basic stuff I want.

Anybody got a preference to which mount for a helmet?

And is the chest strap better? As in it gives a better view for the replay?

[nzspokes]

Kingston is recommended for hero 1, i use Transend 32GB class 4(cos i got them for $37 each and they worked) and record at 720 30 f/p/s and record 8.5 hours of riding time, with the battery continuously charged from a USB wired to my ride. 3 SD cards generally cover a SI tour.

You can get info from the Go pro site about which brands do and don't work before you spend your hard earned dollars.
Class 4 is recommended for my camera on their technical brochure, they know better than me and they have worked. I agree with the write speeds on full HD and the class speeds of the SD cards, but i have had no issues with my camera. If anything technical does not work for me as planned it is binned instantaneously. I love my Hero 1.

How long do you get from your battery when its not being charged? I wouldn't want to do that as it will be helmet/chest mounted and I fall off lots.

[Coldrider]

So going by whats being said here, a Hero HD will be fine for the basic stuff I want.

Anybody got a preference to which mount for a helmet?

And is the chest strap better? As in it gives a better view for the replay?watch a few youtubes clips to decide what is best and the view you want to see. vibration is to be avoided, putting them on helmets may give the appearance of motion sickness in viewing.

[Coldrider]

How long do you get from your battery when its not being charged? I wouldn't want to do that as it will be helmet/chest mounted and I fall off lots.about 2 and quarter hours.

[steve_t]

Helmet is recommended. The trick to getting a seemingly stable video is to include a corner of your helmet in the frame. Just a tiny bit is all you need. When I use the chest mount, there's definitely a lot more vibration perceived.
GoPro sell Anti-Fog inserts though I've never needed to use one

[NordieBoy]

Not to ask an obvious question but when do they fog? Is it anytime or just when its humid? The one I borrowed had a non waterproof case and it was fine.

In the winter. Anytime they spend time pointed into the sun to warm them up when using the waterproof case.

[NordieBoy]

Chest mount is good. Helmet cam can be a bit shaky and look very high on replay.

[NordieBoy]

GoPro sell Anti-Fog inserts though I've never needed to use one

I have to use them all winter. But I hardly ever use the vented back.
Too much riding through wet trees...

[nzspokes]

Having just watched a few vids of helmet and chest mounts I think helmet is the go.

Whats the best helmet mount? Just use the Velcro system?

[nzspokes]

Just to throw it out there, how do the Contour roam2 cameras compare?

http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/1699-contour_cameras_and_accessorie/10488-contourroam2_camera_in_black_b.aspx

[Lawrence]

I have used the original gopro HD with helmet and chest mount. But mainly use chest now as it gives the viewer the feeling they are on the bike with the hands and bars visible. I have stuck a gopro mount to my roost deflector and it seems to work fine. I also definitely get the anti-fog inserts.

Here is some of my footage, nothing special just plodding along. Also cool for water sports too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7jfaEw30do

[nzspokes]

I have used the original gopro HD with helmet and chest mount. But mainly use chest now as it gives the viewer the feeling they are on the bike with the hands and bars visible. I have stuck a gopro mount to my roost deflector and it seems to work fine. I also definitely get the anti-fog inserts.

Here is some of my footage, nothing special just plodding along. Also cool for water sports too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7jfaEw30do

Thanks for that.

Im very intrested in a Contour now with a goggle mount.

[NordieBoy]

Having just watched a few vids of helmet and chest mounts I think helmet is the go.

Whats the best helmet mount? Just use the Velcro system?

The one that comes with the camera.
The double sided tape is strong enough that Padmei got pulled off the bike by a vine that caught the camera and all it did was tilted the camera up slightly.

[steve_t]

Having just watched a few vids of helmet and chest mounts I think helmet is the go.

Whats the best helmet mount? Just use the Velcro system?


The one that comes with the camera.
The double sided tape is strong enough that Padmei got pulled off the bike by a vine that caught the camera and all it did was tilted the camera up slightly.

I don't think there is a velcro mount. Yeah, the 3M mounts that come with it (curved for helmet or flat for flat surfaces) are really good. You need to apply them and leave them for a few hours to get the best adhesion but once it's set, it's strong as (though you can pry it off using a hair dryer if you need).

Crack up story about Padmei. Any video of it? :clap:

[NordieBoy]

I don't think there is a velcro mount. Yeah, the 3M mounts that come with it (curved for helmet or flat for flat surfaces) are really good. You need to apply them and leave them for a few hours to get the best adhesion but once it's set, it's strong as (though you can pry it off using a hair dryer if you need).

Crack up story about Padmei. Any video of it? :clap:

3:40 into this...
http://youtu.be/wAyHs0xKq-Y


Never gets old :lol:

[steve_t]

Awesome :banana:

[BoristheBiter]

Thanks for that.

Im very intrested in a Contour now with a goggle mount.

They all have pros and cons but most just look at the price.

If the gopro has the fogging issue that some are claiming then I would stay clear of them.

I use the drift hd170 as it can hold a 32g card and a bigger battery that can last over 5 hours, downside is you need a pretty quick computer to edit them, but with powerdirector it is a breeze to edit.

[steve_t]

Those whose GoPros fog, is that only with the closed door? Or with the skeleton (open) door as well?

[Shadykiwi]

Those whose GoPros fog, is that only with the closed door? Or with the skeleton (open) door as well?I have the Hero2 HD. Have had issues with fogging when riding Taupo on cold days. I replaced the back door with the skeleton door and haven't had an issues since. Some people recommend using a small packet of those dry beads that come inside various products like new shoes. Otherwise as said Gopro have some inserts.

[slofox]

I'm pretty happy with the RePlay XD. It doesn't seem to give a fuck about which class of card it uses and needs no protective case.

[Big Dave]

Helmet is recommended.

Depends on the application somewhat.

For road (and dirt road) helmet mount removes most of the sensation of leaning and cornering speed - and is very difficult to hear a standard exhaust.
I only use helmet if there is nowhere else suitable - or really rough off road.

I made my own chest mount. You couldn't use it on the track though and it wouldn't be the best thing to land on. But it gives a better record than the melon.

[Night Falcon]

3:40 into this...
http://youtu.be/wAyHs0xKq-Y


Never gets old :lol:

:killingme hehehe think I've seen this before but your right Nordie, its still good :lol:

Havn't mounted my gopro yet or taken any film on it. Will try it out this weekend. As I havent got a chest mount it will have to go on my helmet....but will be carefull around vines!!

[Big Dave]

The handlebar kit isn't that expensive either. It give options like the footpegs and frame on some bikes too.

[Big Dave]

needs no protective case.

The protective case is the biggest advantage. Replacement outer lenses are $20. I've wrecked two so far.

[slofox]

The protective case is the biggest advantage. Replacement outer lenses are $20. I've wrecked two so far.

RePlay has a protective lens cover in front of the glass (real) lens. 6 cost $18.00 I think.

But then I don't go off road. Well, not on purpose anyway...:whistle:

[oldskool]

I've been using a gopro since they first came out..early adopter on this one I guess you'd call me. Yes it is true they fog up, they get hot inside the case. Gopro claim they designed a built in warmer for the battery (good on yah if you believe that one). It is true they are fussy with cards, even of the same brand, hang onto the one that works for you. Chest mounts are good but you do have to be mindful of the dreaded clicker noise, gopro have a shock plug that works to muffle it sometimes. Chestcam footage also makes you a bit 'seasick' watching it sometimes so vary your footage with helmet and other angles too. I'd feel naked trailbiking without one now. Regardless of what brand it is I'd like to give a goggle mounted cam a go. True point of view.

[nzspokes]

Hit buy now on a Contour today so will see how it works out. Liked the goggle mount. Price was right.

[BoristheBiter]

Hit buy now on a Contour today so will see how it works out. Liked the goggle mount. Price was right.

Goggle mount is the only way to go as all the others leave you with a sea sick feeling or have far to much movement.

[Lawrence]

Hit buy now on a Contour today so will see how it works out. Liked the goggle mount. Price was right.

Sweet. Be sure to post some clips...

[Ocean1]

Hit buy now on a Contour today so will see how it works out.

Haven't used it much but I like mine so far.

[nzspokes]

My Contour HD is brilliant. Very easy to use. Gives a great picture. Well worth the $240 I paid for it.

Only thing I cant work out so far is how to edit the movies. :facepalm:

[BoristheBiter]

My Contour HD is brilliant. Very easy to use. Gives a great picture. Well worth the $240 I paid for it.

Only thing I cant work out so far is how to edit the movies. :facepalm:

Copy to computer, open with editing software, save your work and upload to where ever you want.

I think the CHD uses H.246 codec on a MP4 so you will need something that can read it.

If you want to pay get Cyberlink Powerdirector (it was only $49 download) as it has been the best for years.
If you want free software I wouldn't know but I'm sure someone will.

[PeloNZ]

Windows live movie maker is nice and easy to use, and free. The functionality is pretty basic, but does the job.

[shafty]

3:40 into this...
http://youtu.be/wAyHs0xKq-Y


Never gets old :lol:

Love it, the poor Bugger - lots of good verbal "Ohhhhhhhh"'s too, LOL, - no disrespect, thats exactly how I'd be, shyttin myself, lol :nya:

[meteor]

Hero3 silver, sandisc 32GB class 10, Windows movie maker, No issues. Copies to PC with quad core and 4 GB ram.
Settings can be changed to dumb down the HD recordings if necessary.
No fog, hasn't been wet or cold enough yet.
Helmet mount (3M type) sticky as. And all off road stuff so heaps of bounce and shaking.
Battery takes a while to charge via PC usb tho'

[oldskool]

This'll be my next POV action cam. Google Glass

http://youtu.be/v1uyQZNg2vE
<object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/v1uyQZNg2vE?hl=en_US&amp;version=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/v1uyQZNg2vE?hl=en_US&amp;version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

[BoristheBiter]

Hero3 silver, sandisc 32GB class 10, Windows movie maker, No issues. Copies to PC with quad core and 4 GB ram.
Settings can be changed to dumb down the HD recordings if necessary.
No fog, hasn't been wet or cold enough yet.
Helmet mount (3M type) sticky as. And all off road stuff so heaps of bounce and shaking.
Battery takes a while to charge via PC usb tho'

How long does the battery last?

[KTM200/stevo0987]

ive got a Contour as well, great and easy to use and i edit my videos with Sony Vegas... but i hardly ever edit them i just chuck them strait on :) haha but yea the only problem i have is the wind noise when riding at relatively high speed.. ive covered the led lights and the back of the lense with some tape.. it worked but still get it enough to be annoying... Anyone have one and got rid of the wind sound please help ;)

[Stylo]

Thought this was the 'Off Road' thread. ?

[steve_t]

Thought this was the 'Off Road' thread. ?

Moderators score card -1/10

Huh? It's a thread in the Off Road section. Do you want it to be titled "Which GoPro is the best for recording Off Road riding?" :blink:

[Jay GTI]

Thought this was the 'Off Road' thread. ?

A lot more dirt riders use helmet cams than road riders, would make sense to ask here.

[NordieBoy]

A lot more dirt riders use helmet cams than road riders, would make sense to ask here.

Or in the forum that combines both :D

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/130930-Helmet-cameras

[NordieBoy]

You missed the point my friend .....

Then what was your point?


The original poster rides a KDX200 and says "Im thinking of getting a Gopro so I can watch what I do wrong."

[nzspokes]

Or in the forum that combines both :D

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/130930-Helmet-cameras

That thread is soooo last year.......:lol:

[nzspokes]

Then what was your point?


The original poster rides a KDX200 and says "Im thinking of getting a Gopro so I can watch what I do wrong."

Well yeah, its for me offroad riding.

Wouldn't use it on my road bike as once you've seen one road you've seen em all.

[motor_mayhem]

This'll be my next POV action cam. Google Glass

In theory that sounds awesome and for most people not riding off road bikes probably would be but I dunno how good they'd be in a crash considering if they broke, your googles would ensure google glass went in your eyes.

[meteor]

How long does the battery last?

I reckon about 2 hours give or take. But turn it on and off and take snap photos etc.
At Tussock Buster I got almost the whole day out of it with stops etc.
Takes a while to recharge tho' via usb to PC or laptop.

[Transalper]

Speaking of batteries, my first one (the original came with the HD1) just puffed.
Lucky I still have two to go.

[oldskool]

I've just chucked in a Sony SDHC UHS-1 32GB card into my GoPro. Supposed to be mega fast. I bought it for $29.95 off OneDay. Sony has a RRP of $169.95 for them so it isn't a cheapy brand.
Sick of the 8GB cards running out halfway through the day. I'm not usually a fan of high capacity sd cards, but I'll see how it goes.

[steve_t]

Have read in another forum the short life batteries and unreliable software are problems with the latest GoPro. If you could connect an extension battery pack that would solve the battery problem. As for the software it sounds like the sort of problem that Microsoft/etc has when they release it too soon.

The GoPro Hero 3 does have a battery bacpac you can attach. It roughly doubles the recording time. There was a new firmware released the other day that has fixed a lot of problems. Many of the other problems have been found to be due to shithouse MicroSD cards whose write speed drops below the rate required by the camera and thus the camera freezes.

GoPro 3 with the newest firmware and a fast MicroSD card is pretty reliable now

[NordieBoy]

The GoPro Hero 3 does have a battery bacpac you can attach. It roughly doubles the recording time. There was a new firmware released the other day that has fixed a lot of problems. Many of the other problems have been found to be due to shithouse MicroSD cards whose write speed drops below the rate required by the camera and thus the camera freezes.

GoPro 3 with the newest firmware and a fast MicroSD card is pretty reliable now

Just got a couple of "Samsung" 32Gb micro sd's for our phones and they play merry hell with them.
Lockups, resets, errors...

Old 2Gb's in and no issues at all...

[jt119]

i use a 16gb sandisk and 32gb apacer class 10 and dont seem to have eny worrys

[IIIRII]

The GoPro Hero 3 does have a battery bacpac you can attach. It roughly doubles the recording time

Theres 1600 ma/h batteries that drop straight in
To replace the 1050 ma/h standard ones

[Dent]

Are these 1600 ma/h batteries the same physical size, or is this a 'fat' battery that means you need a different case etc?

[oldskool]

How's this for a different point of view?
281467

[nzspokes]

How's this for a different point of view?
281467

Just dont land on yer face.

I still dont understand Monster stickers.:facepalm:

[IIIRII]

Same size /
http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/video-cameras/accessories/batteries/auction-581895464.htm

[Dent]

Thanks.

However I am sceptical - I will have to find some reviews - tricky, brand not mentioned.
Its very easy these days for a Chinese made item to have false 'stickers' for various compliance or capacity.

Has anyone used these?

The first page of this thread has results from testing of some 'claimed' 1200mAh batterys.
http://www.goprofanatics.com/gopro-hd-hero3/3181-wasabi-power-battery-vs-gopro-kit-battery-ahdbt-201-a.html

[oldskool]

This is a tempting price
Liquid Image Impact Series Offroad 1080P Goggles White $229. Today only.
http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/redalert/product/837254003682

[IIIRII]

Dent, Ill let you know when I've trialled mine

[FlangMasterJ]

Just dont land on yer face.

I still dont understand Monster stickers.:facepalm:

That's not a sticker. One Industries are partnered with Monster. It sucks because One's clothing used to be awesome but now you can't buy it without hideous Monster branding all over it.

[noobi]

That's not a sticker. One Industries are partnered with Monster. It sucks because One's clothing used to be awesome but now you can't buy it without hideous Monster branding all over it.

You can, most of it doesn't have Monster on it.
http://www.crownkiwi.co.nz/crownkiwi/catalogue/?next=cool&CATID=198&CLN=1&pageCount=1
http://www.crownkiwi.co.nz/crownkiwi/catalogue/?CATID=197&CLN=1