Rapist says victim "get over it"

[PrincessBandit]

So he's apparently angry that she's upset because he chose to walk down her street ("not his usual route" - I do hope the media report didn't intend that as a pun) because he has every right to walk wherever he likes.

Interesting that he was also quoted as saying "I got over it, she should too"

Yesterday, Crofts said he lived four blocks from the woman and had every right to walk down the street.

He had been returning from his father's house and, though it was not his usual route, he had done nothing wrong.

There was "no particular reason" he had chosen to walk down that street, he said. As he was walking past the woman's house, her neighbour had called out to him. He had said hello to the neighbour, but he did not stop at the end of her driveway, he said.

"It's been eight years - it's in the past. It's a public area and it's my right to walk down the street. I don't want anything to do with her. I got over it; she needs to get over it, too."

Strange how the perpetrator seems to think that because he's put it behind him his victim is the one with the problem.

[scissorhands]

Sounds like hes getting off by worrying her
Still has domination issues

[Flip]

So he's apparently angry that she's upset because he chose to walk down her street ("not his usual route" - I do hope the media report didn't intend that as a pun) because he has every right to walk wherever he likes.

Interesting that he was also quoted as saying "I got over it, she should too"

Yesterday, Crofts said he lived four blocks from the woman and had every right to walk down the street.

He had been returning from his father's house and, though it was not his usual route, he had done nothing wrong.

There was "no particular reason" he had chosen to walk down that street, he said. As he was walking past the woman's house, her neighbour had called out to him. He had said hello to the neighbour, but he did not stop at the end of her driveway, he said.

"It's been eight years - it's in the past. It's a public area and it's my right to walk down the street. I don't want anything to do with her. I got over it; she needs to get over it, too."

Strange how the perpetrator seems to think that because he's put it behind him his victim is the one with the problem.

We have a unique "criminal justice" system in this country.

I would just lay a formal complaint that he was stalking his victum.

[oneofsix]

She does have the problem, just like the victim of an assault with an iron bar has the problem - it doesn't hurt the thug.


Sounds like hes getting off by worrying her
Still has domination issues

Agreed and he needs to be stopped. The news report will just be feeding him.

[Madness]

http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/Image/database/croftscraig.jpg

Sick bastard.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I dont understand why her new partner and a few of his friends havent explained to this guy why it isnt a good idea to come within a mile of the place. In fact why it might be a good idea for him to move out of the town altogether.

Wait for the po po to do anything? Yep, you might be waiting for a while.

[Paul in NZ]

Ha - he's probably had a hundred bashings but hes still convinced hes 100% right. Nutters gotta be nutters and last time I looked you can't lock em up for that no matter how much you might want to...

[oneofsix]

Ha - he's probably had a hundred bashings but hes still convinced hes 100% right. Nutters gotta be nutters and last time I looked you can't lock em up for that no matter how much you might want to...

Colins is looking to change that for this type of nutter anyhow. This guy goes beyond nutter into dangerous.

[SMOKEU]

The government should introduce chemical castration for these kinds of people. It is reversible, while should keep the PC lefties somewhat happy.

[ducatilover]

The government should introduce chemical castration for these kinds of people. It is reversible, while should keep the PC lefties somewhat happy.
Fuck the PC pricks.

Sounds like hes getting off by worrying her
Still has domination issues

Yep. Would be a simple job just to put him down.

[SMOKEU]

Fuck the PC pricks.


My thoughts exactly, but they are the ones running this country.

[Paul in NZ]

Colins is looking to change that for this type of nutter anyhow. This guy goes beyond nutter into dangerous.

I agree... That boy aint right in the head....

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ha - he's probably had a hundred bashings but hes still convinced hes 100% right. Nutters gotta be nutters and last time I looked you can't lock em up for that no matter how much you might want to...

I think if the point was made forcefully enough, an explanation might suffice. Rhetoric, thats the answer.

[MIXONE]

Ha - he's probably had a hundred bashings but hes still convinced hes 100% right. Nutters gotta be nutters and last time I looked you can't lock em up for that no matter how much you might want to...

A hundred half arsed beatings maybe.One decent bash and he wouldn't be back.:bash:

[MIXONE]

http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/Image/database/croftscraig.jpg

Sick bastard.

Is that him?Should start a fb page....

[wysper]

I dont understand why her new partner and a few of his friends havent explained to this guy why it isnt a good idea to come within a mile of the place. In fact why it might be a good idea for him to move out of the town altogether.

Wait for the po po to do anything? Yep, you might be waiting for a while.

Because if they do that, they will be in prison faster and for longer than he ever was.

[oneofsix]

Because if they do that, they will be in prison faster and for longer than he ever was.

Too true. Provocation is no-longer a valid defence, it might be the reason but you can't use it as a defence.

[MIXONE]

Too true. Provocation is no-longer a valid defence, it might be the reason but you can't use it as a defence.

It wasn't me.I didn't do it.


Luckily denial is a form of defence...

[oldrider]

Because if they do that, they will be in prison faster and for longer than he ever was.

The law and the police are supposed to be there for the protection of our society and while they do a good job they do it for the benefit of the villains!

The PC do gooder brigade tie the police hands behind their back and flaky lawyers and Judges set the villains free while the victims are trodden under the carpet!

If you want to see a vision of future NZ just look at Cuba or North Korea, then pick one ... most likely Cuba, North Korea does at least have discipline! :facepalm:

[ducatilover]

If the PC do-gooder brigade are so useless and fuck things up, how are they still here? I was once told we live in a democracy and apparently that means something.

Can we kill them too? Cunts.

[awa355]

"I got over it, she should too",

Same atitude a certain 'father' has. My wife had her childhood destroyed when she was 9 years old. For four years no one listened. 44years later, it still affects her.

[blue rider]

"I got over it, she should too",

Same atitude a certain 'father' has. My wife had her childhood destroyed when she was 9 years old. For four years no one listened. 44years later, it still affects her.

sexual assault is a life sentence for the victim and a nothing sentence for the criminal, it just never goes away.

[Akzle]

Strange how the perpetrator seems to think that because he's put it behind him his victim is the one with the problem.

you trying to one-up laava's thread huh? i don't reckon this'll go the distance.

1) i'm assuming he breached a restraining order?

there are so many factors at play here. i'm assuming they knew each other before "she was raped", and i'll stand by his right to walk down a street, even if she does live on it.

2) she does need to get over it. i'm sure that's even the state line, victim, recovery and so on.

however. she also has a right to not feel threatened, at home or anywhere else, and as big bad and scary as society at large is, if he's knowingly doing it, he should get neutered, becuase that's bad form.

[Akzle]

The PC do gooder brigade tie the police hands behind their back and flaky lawyers and Judges set the villains free while the victims are trodden under the carpet!

nononono. don't worry about the judges and lawyers, they get paid either way. nothing like repeat business...

[awayatc]

The government should introduce chemical castration

Chemical....?

2 bricks would work well...

be way more fun....


hard to tell one "burka" apart from the other....

[awa355]

Chemical....?

2 bricks would work well...

be way more fun.....


They reckon getting your thumbnails caught between the two bricks can be bloody painfull. :doh:

[Winston001]

Nutters gotta be nutters and last time I looked you can't lock em up for that no matter how much you might want to...

Mmmm....yep.

I remember Crofts from many years ago in my professional life. He was a regular offender not obviously a threat when young but as the psychologists tell us, behaviour escalates. He is not your average person - but then most criminals aren't.

[rebel]

Criminal justice in NZ, an oxymoron.
So the boyfriend saw him standing at the end of the drive. Don't know about you fellas but if I were in his shoes I wouldn't have mucked around in getting down there to meet him.
This is the whole problem with modern white western males. A pack of push over pussies, just how the media/Hollywood portray them. No wonder our countries are going down the shiter.

[Paul in NZ]

Criminal justice in NZ, an oxymoron.
So the boyfriend saw him standing at the end of the drive. Don't know about you fellas but if I were in his shoes I wouldn't have mucked around in getting down there to meet him.
This is the whole problem with modern white western males. A pack of push over pussies, just how the media/Hollywood portray them. No wonder our countries are going down the shiter.

Oh FFS... Yeah do that you end up in front of a judge quicker than you can order a flat white. Then what defense has the poor girl got and the arse wipe knows it too....

Take a walk around any city in NZ and the place is full of people opnly too happy to dish out a few whacks for any one of a thousand imaginary transgressions that often result in death or a long rehab for the unsuspecting victim...

Also - think about what you are saying... This guys a nutter and hes been in jail off and on for ever and in the company of other nutters. You think he hasnt had considerable experience with confrontation? Even if you got lucky he wont stop until hes dead... He is a nutter....

What society has to do is grow some balls and say -'YOU are a bloody nut job mate - heres a nice cozy cell'

[Paul in NZ]

Mmmm....yep.

I remember Crofts from many years ago in my professional life. He was a regular offender not obviously a threat when young but as the psychologists tell us, behaviour escalates. He is not your average person - but then most criminals aren't.


And thats the shame of it really... Almost predictable.....

[awa355]

Anyway, the Indians have developed the ideal deterant to sexual predators.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10878043

[_Shrek_]

The government should introduce chemical castration for these kinds of people. It is reversible, while should keep the PC lefties somewhat happy.

sod the chemical!!! it was proved that he raped her & now he walks past her drive, cut his dick & balls off & give him a tube to piss out of,

& not just on this one on all these sick bistards that beyond dought have raped or fiddled with kids etc... & stuff the pc brigade & the spinless pussies who don't have the guts to make a stand

[oneofsix]

sod the chemical!!! it was proved that he raped her & now he walks past her drive, cut his dick & balls off & give him a tube to piss out of,

& not just on this one on all these sick bistards that beyond dought have raped or fiddled with kids etc... & stuff the pc brigade & the spinless pussies who don't have the guts to make a stand

Whilst I understand your point in this case I don't know that would fix him and the problem he is causing for the victim. This creep is about control and even castrated he would still try to control her through fear. He is a sort of bully and needs to be disempowered.

[_Shrek_]

Whilst I understand your point in this case I don't know that would fix him and the problem he is causing for the victim. This creep is about control and even castrated he would still try to control her through fear. He is a sort of bully and needs to be disempowered.

aye I see ya point, if the 1st method didn't work, then a very tall place with rocks at the bottom option number 2

I don't have alot of time for these peeps, in other parts of the world you get your hand cut off for stealing, firing squad for murder, rape etc.. bout time we brought back some of the old laws that were used to stop this shyte....

[oneofsix]

aye I see ya point, if the 1st method didn't work, then a very tall place with rocks at the bottom option number 2

I don't have alot of time for these peeps, in other parts of the world you get your hand cut off for stealing, firing squad for murder, rape etc.. bout time we brought back some of the old laws that were used to stop this shyte....

For shits like this that aren't going to learn and aren't going to "get better" and it has been well and truely proven well beyond doubt (as you said above) I tend towards agreeing

[oldrider]

Whilst I understand your point in this case I don't know that would fix him and the problem he is causing for the victim. This creep is about control and even castrated he would still try to control her through fear. He is a sort of bully and needs to be disempowered.

Disempowered??????

The status quo have "rewarded" this guy by letting him behave like this and what is more they will punish anybody who tries to stop him!

Why should he not believe that "he" is the one who has been wronged! ... Fucked up Justice system supports him too!

Only a six sided locked room forever or death will prevent him from re-offending against this victim and they won't do that, will they! :doh: