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vfr700
15th May 2013, 22:20
hi i am a nz resident but held a learner licence overseas from 1998-2000. i let it lapse and never did get full licence overseas. i have now resat my learners and passed.
i have years of biking experience on big bikes, and now find i have to wait 2 years till i can ride my bike which is not lams approved. i have sent in my details for a excemption but was pretty much told at best i may get to sit my restricted a little quicker,this still leaves me with 18 months before im legal on my bike. can anyone advise possible ways i can speed up process,as you all know your self its extremely hard not to ride your favourite toy. i may even be willing to travel overseas to sit a exam if i have too,anything so i can just get out there again. thanks in advance for any info put forward.

rastuscat
16th May 2013, 19:17
Good luck with this.

The system is designed for the lowest common denominator. It's been written alongside ACC and the stats they have, where crashes tend to happen to inexperienced riders. That's why they have made it harder to get a 6.

Don't know of a quicker way. You might just have to suck it up. One thing I know for sure is that the 2 years doesn't start until you get your 6L, so bite the bullet, consult Nike, and Just Do It.

Ocean1
16th May 2013, 19:31
It's been written alongside ACC and the stats they have, where crashes tend to happen to inexperienced riders. That's why they have made it harder to get a 6.

And why once you get experienced enough to ride your big bike they charge you more. :confused:

Akzle
16th May 2013, 19:32
fuck legislation homie. that shit's for ignorant white niggers. ride your bike and enjoy it. don't forget to flip the bird when you're wheelieing away from flashing red n bluez.

Akzle
16th May 2013, 19:33
wait. i see you have a honda. and live in auckland.




you're fucked.

Subike
16th May 2013, 19:34
You gotta do the hard yards like the rest of us now bud
Exemptions went out the door with the law change last October.
Go buy a lams approved bike, park up your toy and do the time.
I have two in the garage I want to ride, but cant for the same reason as you.
Bugger.

Gremlin
16th May 2013, 22:57
Until CBTA (or whatever it's going to be called) comes into effect, there is no way to speed up the licence process in NZ. CBTA is just about to enter a trial phase.

If you fancy a holiday in the UK, you could look at their Direct Access course. Full licence in 4 days I think, then convert to Kiwi perhaps?

Drew
17th May 2013, 07:17
Demerit points for getting caught riding a bike, bigger than licence restrictions motivated me to upgrade my licence.

But I have only ever owned a couple of 250's, and I rode on my learner licence for 15 years.

Road kill
18th May 2013, 22:47
I'd just get the licence procedure under way and ride.

If your carefull you seldom get pulled over.

I rode for around ten years with no licence and never got asked for one by the plod,,,just by being carefull.

vfr700
18th May 2013, 23:33
I'd just get the licence procedure under way and ride.

If your carefull you seldom get pulled over.

I rode for around ten years with no licence and never got asked for one by the plod,,,just by being carefull.

cheers for all the replys, yea i have been holding my nz learners for a few months now, but like as someone mentioned above, i have been pulled over and ticked up 200 dollars in fines and 35 demerits, and each time i get pulled over i will get this without full licence, so i have 2 chances left and then licence is gone for 3 months. someone told me the other day that doing a defensive driving course will take 6 months off the restricted so with my excemption and a defensive driving course i may be able to get full in half the time. it all just feels like a mission as i was first legal on a bike 15 years ago. thanks again guys

ducatilover
18th May 2013, 23:57
What do you need a licence for, ya big jessie. :bleh:

st00ji
19th May 2013, 08:27
remove plate and dont stop = no demerits.

this will give you a chance to enjoy the high speed potential of your bike also

:bleh:

Road kill
19th May 2013, 09:27
cheers for all the replys, yea i have been holding my nz learners for a few months now, but like as someone mentioned above, i have been pulled over and ticked up 200 dollars in fines and 35 demerits, and each time i get pulled over i will get this without full licence, so i have 2 chances left and then licence is gone for 3 months. someone told me the other day that doing a defensive driving course will take 6 months off the restricted so with my excemption and a defensive driving course i may be able to get full in half the time. it all just feels like a mission as i was first legal on a bike 15 years ago. thanks again guys

Sorry I didn't realise you had that much history already.

Ride safe mate.

Wayz
22nd May 2013, 22:27
I totally hate our system! I have a mate that has just received his full license, he has never owned a bike, learnt all the basics e.g. U-turns, hill starts and probably clocked up 1000km from learner to full licence....good on him I say!

Banditbandit
27th May 2013, 16:35
hi i am a nz resident but held a learner licence overseas from ... anything so i can just get out there again. thanks in advance for any info put forward.

Sorry - but suck it up and do it ...

It's also shit for people who are disqualified from driving for 12 months and one day .. they too have to go through it all again .. because after 12 months your licence is expiredd .. gone .. they have to suck it up too - no matter how many years they've been riding .... a good reason NOT to lose your licence - and exactly why judges diqualify people for 12 months and one day ..

If you get caught with a learners on a big bike it will cost you demerit points .. and may eventually lead to a suspension period ... then you're really screwed ..

But my advice is suck it up and do it .. and once you start see it right thrugh otherwise in a couple of years you will be in the same position ...

vfr700
27th May 2013, 17:24
Sorry - but suck it up and do it ...

It's also shit for people who are disqualified from driving for 12 months and one day .. they too have to go through it all again .. because after 12 months your licence is expiredd .. gone .. they have to suck it up too - no matter how many years they've been riding .... a good reason NOT to lose your licence - and exactly why judges diqualify people for 12 months and one day ..

If you get caught with a learners on a big bike it will cost you demerit points .. and may eventually lead to a suspension period ... then you're really screwed ..

But my advice is suck it up and do it .. and once you start see it right thrugh otherwise in a couple of years you will be in the same position ...

no need for me to "suck it up" mate,
i just got my excemption in the post, im sitting my full licence in 10 days. looks like 15 years experience amounts to something with nz transport, they had a much more positive attitude than you.

onearmedbandit
27th May 2013, 17:48
no need for me to "suck it up" mate,
i just got my excemption in the post, im sitting my full licence in 10 days. looks like 15 years experience amounts to something with nz transport, they had a much more positive attitude than you.

I know someone in the same boat as you. Who did you talk to?

Xsannz
27th May 2013, 17:55
holy sssssshiiiit .. nzta actually did somthing and responded to somebody on a case by case basis...


well thats it that persons gonna get fired...

Drew
27th May 2013, 19:36
Sorry - but suck it up and do it ...

It's also shit for people who are disqualified from driving for 12 months and one day .. they too have to go through it all again .. because after 12 months your licence is expiredd .. gone .. they have to suck it up too - no matter how many years they've been riding .... a good reason NOT to lose your licence - and exactly why judges diqualify people for 12 months and one day ..

If you get caught with a learners on a big bike it will cost you demerit points .. and may eventually lead to a suspension period ... then you're really screwed ..

But my advice is suck it up and do it .. and once you start see it right thrugh otherwise in a couple of years you will be in the same position ...You cannot apply to sit your licence, untill your disqualification ends I always thought. I also understood it was two years.

Has this changed, or did I just have it wrong like normal?

Drew
27th May 2013, 19:38
no need for me to "suck it up" mate,
i just got my excemption in the post, im sitting my full licence in 10 days. looks like 15 years experience amounts to something with nz transport, they had a much more positive attitude than you.

Now THAT, is incredibly rare. You silver tongued devil you.

Tell the truth, you have to go down on a fat chick before it gets rubber stamped aye?

vfr700
27th May 2013, 21:53
i was never disqualified, but if i kept getting caught on my non lams approved bike i would be eventually. i just rang nz transport told them i got my first licence overseas in 1998 and and was a bit gutted i had to start from scratch all over again, as the learner-restricted phase is really to get experience up and i already have 15 years, and i sent them a letter from the licence athourity in europe stating the date of my first licence. they were good enough to reply saying i can sit my full licence and if i pass no worries, if i dont i have to do the waiting period.which is very fair.
thanks again for the help and info everyone, much appreciated.
keep biking and stay safe

Banditbandit
28th May 2013, 09:07
no need for me to "suck it up" mate,
i just got my excemption in the post, im sitting my full licence in 10 days. looks like 15 years experience amounts to something with nz transport, they had a much more positive attitude than you.

Excellent - good outcome ... happy riding ...

Banditbandit
28th May 2013, 09:08
You cannot apply to sit your licence, untill your disqualification ends I always thought. I also understood it was two years.

Has this changed, or did I just have it wrong like normal?

Yes - that is absolutely correct - and why I said if you are suspended you are really screwed ...

Staticam
28th May 2013, 21:01
.. i just got my excemption in the post, im sitting my full licence in 10 days. looks like 15 years experience amounts to something with nz transport..

A bit late chiming in here. Well done getting the exemption. From all accounts getting one is rare. I managed it several years ago, wrote about it here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=101382

Nail that test.

superjackal
31st May 2013, 11:56
hi i am a nz resident but held a learner licence overseas from 1998-2000. i let it lapse and never did get full licence overseas. i have now resat my learners and passed.
i have years of biking experience on big bikes, and now find i have to wait 2 years till i can ride my bike which is not lams approved. i have sent in my details for a excemption but was pretty much told at best i may get to sit my restricted a little quicker,this still leaves me with 18 months before im legal on my bike. can anyone advise possible ways i can speed up process,as you all know your self its extremely hard not to ride your favourite toy. i may even be willing to travel overseas to sit a exam if i have too,anything so i can just get out there again. thanks in advance for any info put forward.

Might be easier to go back to your origin country and sit your full there? Then transfer your licence to NZ?

Ripperjon
22nd November 2013, 10:13
Might be easier to go back to your origin country and sit your full there? Then transfer your licence to NZ?

Or got to Raro for a holiday and get a foreign licence for $20 which can be converted too. You can immediately book in for a full test here and skip all the bollocks. I did it last week. Had a learners for 6 years and didnt fancy wasting time and money on the restricted, so a holiday it was.

haydes55
22nd November 2013, 11:07
Or got to Raro for a holiday and get a foreign licence for $20 which can be converted too. You can immediately book in for a full test here and skip all the bollocks. I did it last week. Had a learners for 6 years and didnt fancy wasting time and money on the restricted, so a holiday it was.





Firstly, wow thread dredge.

Secondly, no can do. Loop hole has been blocked.

Ripperjon
24th November 2013, 20:17
Firstly, wow thread dredge.

Secondly, no can do. Loop hole has been blocked.

Settle down,cupcake.

If the 'loophole has been blocked' how come i did it last week?

An intranet genius strikes again,i see.

Akzle
24th November 2013, 20:22
Settle down,cupcake.

If the 'loophole has been blocked' how come i did it last week?

An intranet genius strikes again,i see.

the intranet eh

oneblackflag
24th November 2013, 23:41
Settle down,cupcake.

If the 'loophole has been blocked' how come i did it last week?

An intranet genius strikes again,i see.

Yea seems people are getting confused because you used to be able to just swap you Raro one for a NZ full, no test required. Now they actually make you take the full test right?

I'm seriously considering a little getaway myself. :sunny::ride:

Ripperjon
30th November 2013, 20:49
Yea seems people are getting confused because you used to be able to just swap you Raro one for a NZ full, no test required. Now they actually make you take the full test right?

I'm seriously considering a little getaway myself. :sunny::ride:

Thats right, you go straight to the full test. So you just gotta prove you can ride and pay about $110 for the test n card, i think it was.
I got a return flight for $450 i found with skyscanner a few months back. I wanted a holiday anyway and took the opprtunity to skip the restricted test i could've/shouldve done years ago.

Wayz
1st December 2013, 00:59
Haha me and a mate fly out Thursday to Raro.....bring on the full test!