Dustybutt 2014?

[Transalper]

By active do you mean running a GPS app full time or just ticked on in settings?....

Just ticked on the settings so it only takes a second to show your position locked when you actually start an app that wants to know where you are (or was that just my imagination? perhaps I just hadn't moved far enough to worry it)...
But yes, just having the likes of OruxMaps logging your track devastates battery life, tried that while on foot for several hours and will go back to track logging with a real GPS again... though I thought it may be the constant writing to SD card that did it.

End of story really is as you say unless you have external power for the phone it won't last half a DB1k day.



Edit: ok, dmoo1790's the post made me more curious about the way things work, I guess I only had it enabled but the GPS probably doesn't track until an app looks for the location so if I've moved or been long enough between times of using a GPS app then it likely will still take some time to lock on location again.

[dmoo1790]

The other gotcha with phone GPS is most are A (assisted) GPS which means they need cell or wifi network to get data to make a quick fix. Without Internet access they make take a very long time to lock or not lock at all. So the trick is start your app in town where it can lock fast before you go bush.

[vegeman]

Hi,
Festy pinged Gordon from Epic about the GPS maps/route (as he has just to a garmin) and like a few newbies, wants to get it on soon and learn how to use it. This was their reply

20th Feb
"Hi Andrew,
You should have received an email from us about a week ago saying that as soon as the pre-ride audit has been completed then the GPS files will be finalised and sent out to you?
The boys are on their way back now, so I expect this will all be completed and ready for downloading over the next 2-3 days.

Best regards,
Claire"

Not long now....

[vegeman]

Just got these installed for the DB ride...really nice bags. I like saddle bags as they get the weight low, and having them soft means that they don't break or squash ya legs like the hard box's. The have heaps of straps and securing points and fully waterproof.

Got them from revzilla and it took about 4 days to arrive...from USA

Now I can carry a 5L container inside one bag and have enough fuel for 340K's

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/wolfman-expedition-dry-saddle-bags

[GPS MAN]

Good to hear the GPS files are about ready....still mighty close to start time....:facepalm:

[pampa]

so we have the chart, now my question is how to open it, anybody can enlighten me :eek5:

[vegeman]

so we have the chart, now my question is how to open it, anybody can enlighten me :eek5:

its in the wrong format, .rbf is not a valid file format...I've gone back to them and so have a few others to fix and resend.

[Transalper]

its in the wrong format, .rbf is not a valid file format...I've gone back to them and so have a few others to fix and resend.

Yes and no, technically is a valid format if you have the program they created the roll chart with but most of us do not so our computers do not recognise and can not open it. I'm surprised they made that mistake.
I had also replied to them requesting it to be resent as a .pdf (same as the fuel chart) as soon as I saw the email arrive.
Now we wait again... though it is the GPS files I really want a look at.

[Transalper]

GPS files arrived but the instructions don't really match the files confusing the definition of track with route in a couple of places in the instructions.
I'm fine with it and I like what they have tried to do with cutting the route up in to smaller sections of better detail but.... :facepalm: they should probably have just sent end product instead of trying to get people to convert stuff themselves. Instructions have confused Tracks and Routes, they have sent track files and want us to convert them to route files ourselves presumably to better suit our own devices, I'll be interested to see how others get on.

I have Saturday free for me mates locally if they want help.... I don't really know how to work the zumos but the Legends, the Map60, and Map 62's I can do.

Personally I will keep the tracks (tidied in a couple of places I see have gone astray) and have them highlighted on the GPS screen in the background and also navigate using the 250 point routes I create from them to get the distance to and eta type features of the gps to work.
I also keep a separate lot of waypoint flags on screen to match roll chart cells but need to double check that they are still accurate when the roll chart files arrive.

Edit: I'd delete track point #50 from Db1ksatAM14 file as it will take you to the house instead of just turning left up the hill... it's at S44 06.654 E170 52.820
It's where Ryan used to paint the road to get people to turn through the gate. I'd guess when they were making the new track logs they either missed the turn or visited the farmer and forgot to clean the point off the track. GPS reflection may be another possible cause of the anomaly. It is a corner I remember well having seen issues there every year.

[NordieBoy]

RBF files are for Roadbook Editor which hasn't been updated since 2008.

[Transalper]

RBF files are for Roadbook Editor which hasn't been updated since 2008.

Hasn't been updated, have you even tried to find a copy to download recently, it seems to have vanished altogether.
I found several mentions of it online but the download links all point to a place holder with no software to be found.

[Crim]

is it the same as last year, TA?

[Transalper]

is it the same as last year, TA?

Yes, but the new GPS files they sent are semi clean track logs instead of route files this time (it is hard to catch and erase all the little unnecessary detour points from stops or wrong turns in a log hence 'semi' clean) so they have more detail than previous years.
Epic appear to want us to convert their track logs to route files ourselves which is actually the way I'd prefer to do it anyway.
Just the instruction sheet that came in the email is a bit backward.

[Crim]

new GPS files they sent are semi clean track logs instead of route files this time (it is hard to catch and erase all the little unnecessary detour points from stops or wrong turns in a log) -
convert their track logs to route files

See now you are saying that and all I am hearing is "thank god last years are still on the old GPS"

[Transalper]

See now you are saying that and all I am hearing is "thank god last years are still on the old GPS"

lol, I suspected as much, well while you are following a few straight lines crossing the map the rest of us will be following wiggly lines more or less constantly on the same path we are on.

[thepom]

See you sat to upload files to my gps...what shall I bring...Milo...soup...chocolate as payment lol?

[Transalper]

See you sat to upload files to my gps...what shall I bring...Milo...soup...chocolate as payment lol?

Might be doing a roady to Kaikoura or Cheviot for lunch now Saturday, evening might be ok or Sunday.
I'll look at doing a bit more of a track tidy then prep some 250 point routes ready to go so we can simply select them and send to GPS without the need for you guys to mess with Basecamp.

[NordieBoy]

Hasn't been updated, have you even tried to find a copy to download recently, it seems to have vanished altogether.
I found several mentions of it online but the download links all point to a place holder with no software to be found.

Still got it in my archives. The latest version too.

[Transalper]

The received track files are messier than I first thought, if you start navigating the main route files there is nothing other than local knowledge to show you where the Challenge options start on day two. I'm going to cut my routes at the Challenge/bypass option points.
Got some work to do to neaterise everything this evening, there were doublebacks and extras like a trip up to a motel and back included that I've already erased to save points when converting to the route format, will have a closer look later, going to Kaikoura shortly, it a beaut day out there now.

[pampa]

The received track files are messier than I first thought, if you start navigating the main route files there is nothing other than local knowledge to show you where the Challenge options start on day two. I'm going to cut my routes at the Challenge/bypass option points.
Got some work to do to neaterise everything this evening, there were doublebacks and extras like a trip up to a motel and back included that I've already erased to save points when converting to the route format, will have a closer look later, going to Kaikoura shortly, it a beaut day out there now.
do you generate kmls?

[RemoteMoto]

do you generate kmls?

Are you looking for the KML file for a web application or your GPS?

Without knowing exactly what you want the KML file for, this may help: a GPX file adheres to an XML file format and is imported into GPS devices (as long as the GPX file is complaint with the GPS unit). A KML file is a geographic data file and used with Google's programs as KML overlays such as Google Maps and Google Earth etc. If you want to view the DB1K route in Google Earth, simply import the GPX file you received from Epic Events into Google Earth and it will render to a KML overlay.

Hope that helps

Josh

[Transalper]

do you generate kmls?

I've not really delt with kml's but I imagine google earth or Basecamp may be able to create those from a .gpx for you, but why would you want one of those?

Edit: Just noticed Joshes reply.

[pampa]

erm :blink: I rather ignorant about this particular topic (and and in general as well). I use my android phone and oruxmaps application. I have the topomaps loaded on oruxmaps and only need the track and is a reasonable (for me) setup. I have done it only once before I was of the impression I used kml (however it could also have been kmz).

Now after reading the issues with the loading the maps (I have basecamp installed but have never used, though shouldn't be a problem) I was expecting it to be a straightforward affair



Are you looking for the KML file for a web application or your GPS?

Without knowing exactly what you want the KML file for, this may help: a GPX file adheres to an XML file format and is imported into GPS devices (as long as the GPX file is complaint with the GPS unit). A KML file is a geographic data file and used with Google's programs as KML overlays such as Google Maps and Google Earth etc. If you want to view the DB1K route in Google Earth, simply import the GPX file you received from Epic Events into Google Earth and it will render to a KML overlay.

Hope that helps

Josh


I've not really delt with kml's but I imagine google earth or Basecamp may be able to create those from a .gpx for you, but why would you want one of those?

Edit: Just noticed Joshes reply.

[pampa]

ok actually oruxmaps can load the gpx, just need to join the tracks per day or something now

[pete-blen]

All sounds to hard to me :angry:...... I will use Josh's files from last year since I found them hideing a some dark corner of the puter..

[pampa]

All sounds to hard to me :angry:...... I will use Josh's files from last year since I found them hideing a some dark corner of the puter..

can u share :D:sweatdrop

[Transalper]

I have a tidied set of 'Track files' now ready to play with.
Probably work ok on the smart phone Pampa if you just want it to display in the background on the map, I've manually got rid of a lot of wasted points to help the phone and gps do their thing and also ensured all the important turns that I am aware of are still in place.
It's a set of 8 files cut at the start of the challenge options labeled D14_1... to D14_5.... D14 being Dusty Butt 2014 but with older GPS limited to 13 characters in their names I couldn't write full descriptions. Challenge files are like D14_2C_Awakino for example and the bypass is D14_2_Easy.

I'm now doing a conversion to make 250 point route files, and then will check the turns are still correct again as the automatic filtering process tends to delete the best positioned corner points unfortunately.

Link to track files Zipped folder HERE (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62877090/DB1k-2014/DB1k-2014-GPX_TrackFiles.zip)

[Transalper]

All sounds to hard to me :angry:...... I will use Josh's files from last year since I found them hideing a some dark corner of the puter..

What gps are you using Pete?
I'm wondering if Josh did you a special set of files?

[pampa]

great I'll check it out, many thanks


I have a tidied set of 'Track files' now ready to play with.
Probably work ok on the smart phone Pampa if you just want it to display in the background on the map, I've manually got rid of a lot of wasted points to help the phone and gps do their thing and also ensured all the important turns that I am aware of are still in place.
It's a set of 8 files cut at the start of the challenge options labeled D14_1... to D14_5.... D14 being Dusty Butt 2014 but with older GPS limited to 13 characters in their names I couldn't write full descriptions. Challenge files are like D14_2C_Awakino for example and the bypass is D14_2_Easy.

I'm now doing a conversion to make 250 point route files, and then will check the turns are still correct again as the automatic filtering process tends to delete the best positioned corner points unfortunately.

Link to track files Zipped folder HERE (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62877090/DB1k-2014/DB1k-2014-GPX_TrackFiles.zip)

[pete-blen]

can u share :D:sweatdrop


yer... If I can figger out how to send them... PM me yer E-mail addy

I have printed out the track log... " I like paper its easy to under stand"
Think I will use the paper with the 5" nuvi 50 is almost bigger enough for me to see..
don't think i could load the files onto the nuvi 50 ????

[pampa]

yer... If I can figger out how to send them... PM me yer E-mail addy

I have printed out the track log... " I like paper its easy to under stand"
Think I will use the paper with the 5" nuvi 50 is almost bigger enough for me to see..
don't think i could load the files onto the nuvi 50 ????
ok don't worry I have transalper version now. I only need one, in case I cannot do it myself.

[Woodman]

My first Dustybutt using a GPS and you guys are freaking me out.

Gonna download the files after dinner. It had better be easy.

[cynna]

My first Dustybutt using a GPS and you guys are freaking me out.

Gonna download the files after dinner. It had better be easy.

beats trying to find an eftpos roll to print the chart out on......

[pampa]

beats trying to find an eftpos roll to print the chart out on......

i can see a traffic jam behind transalper <_<

[pete-blen]

beats trying to find an eftpos roll to print the chart out on......


took 24 pages to print them... cut them into strips & taped them togeather....:facepalm:
printer don't do eftpos rolls..

[Woodman]

Ooookay, just downloaded the files onto my GPS. All went well until I got to the "create track from selected route" option, the problem being that that option didn't exist.

In the end I just sent the files to the GPS and they are on their. Will this be a problem? How will I know if it will work prior to getting their?

Are the instructions they sent wrong???



Might take a roll chart as a backup.

[Transalper]

files now in post #290 down the page a bit further.

[Transalper]

Ooookay, just downloaded the files onto my GPS. All went well until I got to the "create track from selected route" option, the problem being that that option didn't exist.

In the end I just sent the files to the GPS and they are on their. Will this be a problem? How will I know if it will work prior to getting their?

Are the instructions they sent wrong???



Might take a roll chart as a backup.

Yes their instructions are wrong and to do what they intended through the automatic filtering in Basecamp will create a messy thing.

Also see my last post... I'm manually adjusting things as best I can to make things work but to create a 200 point route still leaves us following straight lines roughly following the route but with much more detail than previous years.

You could get by using the messy thing Basecamp can create but it could be a little annoying in places along the ride.

[Bluft]

I have loaded the orininal tracks onto my 62s and they seem to be alright?? As soon as I loaded them as changed over route files the gps would not open them or run right

[Transalper]

You can use mapsource to load them if that's what you're used to.
They are 200 point Route files this time, use as per last years method in off road mode.
200 points should work on the Garmin Zumos, Map60/62 and Etrex legends.

Link to my cleaned up and converted to ROUTE files version ready to go - DB1K 2014 All 200 point Route files ready to go in one zip file here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62877090/DB1k-2014/DB1K-2014%20Route%20Files%20TAs%20200%20point%20version .zip).

[umopom]

Ooookay, just downloaded the files onto my GPS. All went well until I got to the "create track from selected route" option, the problem being that that option didn't exist.

In the end I just sent the files to the GPS and they are on their. Will this be a problem? How will I know if it will work prior to getting their?

Are the instructions they sent wrong???



Might take a roll chart as a backup.

Just follow someone thats using the 2009 route:confused:

[Transalper]

Just follow someone thats using the 2009 route:confused:

Of course the 2009 route was a different one though.

[GPS MAN]

Well, Mr. Transalper ~ I have loaded your files and I do say they appear to make more sense...

Time will tell ~~~~

[Transalper]

Interestingly enough I have learned something today about the more modern Garmins as in the Map62s and similar and what Epic have intended us to do is much cooler than using a route file. This is something I wish I had known before.
In my opinion their files still needed a good clean up and slight re organisation of cuts and joins, but I am inclined to use their method of navigation now... because I can on the 62s.

The instructions are still wrong considering they sent track files, not route files where the instructions indicated the other way round.
If you ignore the first bit of the Epic instructions and go straight to the bit where the talk about transferring to internal storage you'll be fine **if you have a compatible GPS for this method.

Anyway what they had planned for us is to load track files in to our GPS and navigate directly off those, no conversion needed, no route files needed. Now what's cool about the Garmin Map 62s is that it really is that simple, once the track file has been sent to the GPS you then simply press ‘find’ and then ‘tracks’ then select the one you want, press 'go' and you’re good to go as if you're navigating a thousand point route.

Here's the link to my trimmed and cleaned and slightly tweaked TRACK files again. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62877090/DB1k-2014/DB1k-2014-GPX_TrackFiles.zip) I'll be navigating with the 62s straight from these as Tracks.

**will not work with Garmin Etrex Legend as the tracks get cut off 500 points in. I'm not sure about the Zumos but doubtful of the Garmin MAP60 too.

[Woodman]

Bla bla bla bla garmin 62s bla bla bla works with 62s good bla bla bla

Cheers Transalper, I have a 62s so it should be tickety boo then.

[chasio]

Interestingly enough I have learned something today about the more modern Garmins as in the Map62s and similar and what Epic have intended us to do is much cooler than using a route file. This is something I wish I had known before.
In my opinion their files still needed a good clean up and slight re organisation of cuts and joins, but I am inclined to use their method of navigation now... because I can on the 62s.

The instructions are still wrong considering they sent track files, not route files where the instructions indicated the other way round.
If you ignore the first bit of the Epic instructions and go straight to the bit where the talk about transferring to internal storage you'll be fine **if you have a compatible GPS for this method.

Anyway what they had planned for us is to load track files in to our GPS and navigate directly off those, no conversion needed, no route files needed. Now what's cool about the Garmin Map 62s is that it really is that simple, once the track file has been sent to the GPS you then simply press ‘find’ and then ‘tracks’ then select the one you want, press 'go' and you’re good to go as if you're navigating a thousand point route.

Here's the link to my trimmed and cleaned and slightly tweaked TRACK files again. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62877090/DB1k-2014/DB1k-2014-GPX_TrackFiles.zip) I'll be navigating with the 62s straight from these as Tracks.

**will not work with Garmin Etrex Legend as the tracks get cut off 500 points in. I'm not sure about the Zumos but doubtful of the Garmin MAP60 too.

This is fascinating and, as noted by Woodman a bit scary. My first DB, first GPS routed event and, if I am lucky, I will be getting in last. Just as well I got my new lights fitted today.

Thanks for sharing your output. Could you suggest which of your sets would be best to load onto a 76cx? (They're the same as a 60cx functionally, I believe.)

[Transalper]

.... Could you suggest which of your sets would be best to load onto a 76cx? (They're the same as a 60cx functionally, I believe.)
I'm getting hands on a borrowed Map60 tomorrow evening to double check a few things but I expect the 200 point Route files (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62877090/DB1k-2014/DB1K-2014%20Route%20Files%20TAs%20200%20point%20version .zip) be the best option for you. Use Mapsource or Base Camp programs or what ever you normally do to transfer things to the GPS.
For navigation of the Route files you use the off road option on the GPS. If you don't see that option there may be some settings to adjust.

[chasio]

I'm getting hands on a borrowed Map60 tomorrow evening to double check a few things but I expect the 200 point Route files (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62877090/DB1k-2014/DB1K-2014%20Route%20Files%20TAs%20200%20point%20version .zip) be the best option for you... Use Mapsource or Base Camp programs or what ever you normally do to transfer things to the GPS.
For navigation of the Route files you use the off road option on the GPS. If you don't see that option there may be some settings to adjust.

Awesome, cheers.

Which mapset do you reckon? I was planning on the latest standard OpenGPS mapset but wondered if the combined topo one might be a good idea. A bit tricky to read on the 76cx, mind you.

[Transalper]

Awesome, cheers.

Which mapset do you reckon? I was planning on the latest standard OpenGPS mapset but wondered if the combined topo one might be a good idea. A bit tricky to read on the 76cx, mind you.

Probably just use your favourite mapset.
I feel Topo lines sometimes get in the way, sometimes they are nice to see but neither mapset mentioned has roads through the Awakino for one example.
The OpenGPs mapset without topo is probably more up to date.

[Skinny_Birdman]

Spent a pleasant evening chatting to Mr TA last night, and he took me through some of the issues with the route files (which I hadn't noticed:Oops:) such as the route deviating up to the house, and going to a motel in Alex. Pretty half-arsed for a 'professional' job is all I am going to say.

[_Shrek_]

Spent a pleasant evening chatting to Mr TA last night, and he took me through some of the issues with the route files (which I hadn't noticed :Oops:) such as the route deviating up to the house, and going to a motel in Alex. Pretty half-arsed for a 'professional' job is all I am going to say.

:shifty: may be there is a prize there for some one :corn:

[XF650]

Once again I'm not riding this year but by coincidence will be intersecting parts of the route with ute & trailer. PM me here if you think you might need my cell #.
Bike mechanic Neil @ Two Wheels Alexandra will be available Sat evening for light maintenance work (tyre changes etc.) but please, only by appointment Ph: 0272 905 008.
XF

[chasio]

Probably just use your favourite mapset.
I feel Topo lines sometimes get in the way, sometimes they are nice to see but neither mapset mentioned has roads through the Awakino for one example.
The OpenGPs mapset without topo is probably more up to date.

I'll use the latest set and have a topo card and the DOC track card with me, just in case.

Just loaded up your routes and they went on OK. Someone mentioned having the tracks on in the background. Presumably their tracks are not aligned with your routes, so I'm guessing that would not be a good plan in combination with your routes.(?)

Thanks for your help. :niceone:

[Transalper]

I'll use the latest set and have a topo card and the DOC track card with me, just in case.

Just loaded up your routes and they went on OK. Someone mentioned having the tracks on in the background. Presumably their tracks are not aligned with your routes, so I'm guessing that would not be a good plan in combination with your routes.(?)

Thanks for your help. :niceone:

Been investigating the MAP60 and the answer is no.... the the track files are cut off at the first 500 points by the GPS while it is receiving them, all points after that are lost so you end up with a very small partial track ending in the middle of nowhere.
I'd imagine the 76cx being basically the same will do the same... other than that you'd have done it with my track files to avoid re introducing the errors I cleaned out such as in the picture attached...

The open maps has been corrected now so that would help this year, previously the road appeared on the map to go straight on and when actually there it appeared to do the same but we needed to turn left through a gate up a track.
Lots of people overshoot this one.
The grey line is the Epic track file, see the extra squigles, the big one is a good 100m up the wrong way.
The Red line mostly shares the same path as the grey except I turn you at the corect place instead of visiting the house then returning to the turn.
The pink line represents the 200pt Route file.

All files have areas of limited detail in some areas of the ride. If I knew how things were going to play out I'd have preped a much fuller track and route set filling in the gaps but then you still need to read the terrain for yourselves a lot of the time anyway, rivers crossed here last year may be washed to a different crossing this year.

Cheers.

[thepom]

I.d like to say a big thank you to neil at two wheels in alexandra for the help and support he gave me and my mate col at bannockburn bike week with our punctures and thanks for being available again this weekend if needed...cheers mate...

[Woodman]

All this chatter about routes and tracks and points has confused me, so just gonna follow the epicevents trackroute.

Anyway its the third year using the exact same route so I reckon i know where to go now anyway. Mostly

[Transalper]

All this chatter about routes and tracks and points has confused me, so just gonna follow the epicevents trackroute.

Anyway its the third year using the exact same route so I reckon i know where to go now anyway. Mostly

You doing all the challenge options?

[Woodman]

You doing all the challenge options?

Thats the plan, but if daylight runs out I am going to bug out and road to either Alex or Fairlie.

[Transalper]

I'm going for a bit of an easier time this year, taking the WR and the easy options.


I should have time and energy to burn :laugh::bs:

[Transalper]

Had a last minute look at the bike, got some stuff to do, just picked up a new rear tyre, chain and rear brake pads. Should take care of all the bit's of concern, just got to get it all installed now. Ahh, no tv tomorrow evening I guess. :rolleyes:

[XF650]

Had a last minute look at the bike, got some stuff to do, just picked up a new rear tyre, chain and rear brake pads. Should take care of all the bit's of concern, just got to get it all installed now. Ahh, no tv tomorrow evening I guess. :rolleyes:

We know the feeling Carl. Rogson has caught my (last minute maintenance) disease & tonight is doing front wheel & swing arm bearings in my garage, with advice from TimG. Plus tomorrow morning he has to get a front tyre fitted & a WOF, all before heading to the Pre Ride.

[mattsdakar]

We know the feeling Carl. Rogson has caught my (last minute maintenance) disease & tonight is doing front wheel & swing arm bearings in my garage, with advice from TimG. Plus tomorrow morning he has to get a front tyre fitted & a WOF, all before heading to the Pre Ride.

Good luck getting a wof before 0830 in the morning, suspect he will be playing catch up, I wouldn't bother, not like he is going to spend that much time on the seal!

[XF650]

Good luck getting a wof before 0830 in the morning, suspect he will be playing catch up, I wouldn't bother, not like he is going to spend that much time on the seal!

He's aiming to meet you guys at the Gorge & got his Freewind here as back-up. Carb is now in bits & last comment I heard was "where does that bit go?"

[Woodman]

Same shit here. Started the KLR the other day and the water pump seals have given out. No replacements, so have boogied it up and it don't leak anymore. Yesterday went for a wee shakedown ride and the carb was pissing petrol out the overflow. Pulled carb, cleaned it up and all good, musta been a bit of shit n the needle and seat. Hopefully the bikes back to its usual reliable self.:sweatdrop Must have been all this talk about selling it.

Anyway all loaded up and ready for the ride to fairlie tomorrow. See you guys there.

[_Shrek_]

Had a last minute look at the bike, got some stuff to do, just picked up a new rear tyre, chain and rear brake pads. Should take care of all the bit's of concern, just got to get it all installed now. Ahh, no tv tomorrow evening I guess. :rolleyes:


We know the feeling Carl. Rogson has caught my (last minute maintenance) disease & tonight is doing front wheel & swing arm bearings in my garage, with advice from TimG. Plus tomorrow morning he has to get a front tyre fitted & a WOF, all before heading to the Pre Ride.


Good luck getting a wof before 0830 in the morning, suspect he will be playing catch up, I wouldn't bother, not like he is going to spend that much time on the seal!


He's aiming to meet you guys at the Gorge & got his Freewind here as back-up. Carb is now in bits & last comment I heard was "where does that bit go?"


Same shit here. Started the KLR the other day and the water pump seals have given out. No replacements, so have boogied it up and it don't leak anymore. Yesterday went for a wee shakedown ride and the carb was pissing petrol out the overflow. Pulled carb, cleaned it up and all good, musta been a bit of shit n the needle and seat. Hopefully the bikes back to its usual reliable self.:sweatdrop Must have been all this talk about selling it.

Anyway all loaded up and ready for the ride to fairlie tomorrow. See you guys there.

:laugh: nothing like leaving it to the last minute to get things done, makes quite an amusing read cheers guys :corn: :apint:

[XF650]

:laugh: nothing like leaving it to the last minute to get things done, makes quite an amusing read cheers guys :corn: :apint:

....and in the rush back from the Testing Station this morning, Roger got a ticket....

[Crisis management]

He's aiming to meet you guys at the Gorge & got his Freewind here as back-up. Carb is now in bits & last comment I heard was "where does that bit go?"

I am glad I'm not there Struan, I can see Roger pressing me into his work gang!

Have a good ride you lot, I'm having a wonderful time at work, not!

[XF650]

I am glad I'm not there Struan, I can see Roger pressing me into his work gang!

Have a good ride you lot, I'm having a wonderful time at work, not!

Just heard some thunder in the distance. Not sure if it's the weather or if it's Roger....

[Transalper]

Raining at Mayfield, been heavy at times.
No sign of them here yet but I'd expect that for another half hour yet at least.

[Transalper]

Wet riders in Mayfield now.

[_Shrek_]

if you are stuck down this way need a trailer, place to park, workshop or a tyre to get you home, we have a couple of 21's & 19's Front or 17's rear

027 3525 616

have a great :ride: & make sure you get pic's :whistle:

[_Shrek_]

bit of an update guys it's snowing on the tops bit of sleet down below, :cold: the high passes will be lotsa fun if this keeps up :Punk:

[Crisis management]

Well it's a bit humid up here, I was considering a dip in the pool to cool off, maybe I'll knock off early and have a beer too.....

[Transalper]

First injury at Fairly river, guy out hurt shoulder, crf230L.

[Transalper]

Breakfast in Waimate with Ryan and Alex.

[Transalper]

Kurow, doing Dansys next, taking it easy. River after Waimate was a little tricky again.

[FJRider]

Kurow, doing Dansys next, taking it easy. River after Waimate was a little tricky again.

There's been heavy rain in the area ... the water levels will be up in all the rivers/streams. And a tad slippery(er) in places ... (you know where)

[Transalper]

Rivers all really low but rocks a bit slimey, Fairlie was just a very narrow deepish/swift channel with steep entry and Waimate one was short and extra lumpy. Ground is muddy though, only got bad dust through Thompsons.

[Transalper]

Alexandra now. Guy broke a chain up Hawksburn. Need-It in action to fix the hole in crank case it made.

[NordieBoy]

Sounds like a proper adventure ride.

[Transalper]

And away we go again.

[XF650]

Trailer already full: 1 x EXC250 with munted clutch, 1 x WR450 with wrecked countershaft & 1 x DR650 with hole in crankcase ( I wonder if 3rd gear is still in there??)
Still wish I was riding though....

[Shoshoni]

And away we go again. I hope you have your camera's running :corn:

[Transalper]

Lawerance, fuel easy, think most riders been through already. No camera on me this year.
Cynna used $100+ to fill. Guess you get that when we all share the pump on one card swipe.

[Aslan]

Trailer already full: 1 x EXC250 with munted clutch, 1 x WR450 with wrecked countershaft & 1 x DR650 with hole in crankcase ( I wonder if 3rd gear is still in there??)
Still wish I was riding though....


I'm with Struan on this one - wish I was riding - travelling vicariously through this thread - ride safe everyone - and big ups for Struan and others like him doing the 'Samiritan' thing for those with busted steeds :)

[Transalper]

Heard of snow and burnt clutches on Awakino yesterday.
Helicopter picked up rider with broken collarbone in Lammimores today. Im just dropping down from there now. Great day so far.

[Night Falcon]

Thanks for the up dates TA :niceone:

[Transalper]

Stopped for a snack at start of Serpintine. Still taking the bypass and it's raining lightly with sunshine too.

[Transalper]

Past Poolburn approaching Moa Creek i think. Come up behind another group with flashg and others lead by pouakai on the Elephant.. sorry, Elefant , the Cagiva, not the animal with big ears and a trunk..

[Transalper]

Tea, as in Bear battered cod at Omarama now.
Pete blen had his clutch cable break but was carting a spare... thumbs up. Rain is chasing us but we've mostly stayed clear of it.
Just thought I'd add I had plenty of entertainment in the Lammimores this morning with Skinny Birdman and sideways Transalp action.

[Waihou Thumper]

Good work mate....
I don't have Sky TV, so ball by ball commentary of the cricket was cool..
This is another bonus.....
Next time I want live streaming like Dakar okay....:laugh:
Oh, I do hope the Cellphone stayed dry...

Enjoy the Dinner....You all earned it! and the fishing tales will be abundant no doubt...:)

[Skinny_Birdman]

All? There's only 2 of us here in real time! :p Mighty 'alp was on fumes coming into Omarama-or else I have a fueling problem. :wacko:

[Transalper]

About 100 to 150km to yet. Over the Black Forest next.

[Transalper]

And we're back. At least Alex and I are. Thepom and cynna were last seen heading to Albury.
Saw them at the Gladstone so all good.
Sleep now.

[Crisis management]

Trailer already full: 1 x EXC250 with munted clutch, 1 x WR450 with wrecked countershaft & 1 x DR650 with hole in crankcase ( I wonder if 3rd gear is still in there??)
Still wish I was riding though....

This sounds remakably like a bunch of Jaffas' Struan, please tell me I'm wrong?

[cynna]

And we're back. At least Alex and I are. Thepom and cynna were last seen heading to Albury.
Saw them at the Gladstone so all good.
Sleep now.

was better pies in Albury....

Glad to hear pete-blen made it back after we lost him before the omarama sadde option

[XF650]

This sounds remakably like a bunch of Jaffas' Struan, please tell me I'm wrong?

Correct - all my assists are from north of the border. Even the very sore rider I brought out last night was from up your way.
Unloaded the DR in Fairlie & replaced it with Lee's KTM (countershaft issues from busted chain). Will drop that @ Mainfreight ChCh then load a certain 'Berg, with similar issue. So still full load to Picton.
Big thanks to DR Dave for letting us use his rear wheel. After 3 flats, swapping out the rear hoop for Chasio was the quickest option. We were still late into Fairlie though.
There were a lot of virgins this year but still a great event. Theme last year was wheel bearings - this year it seems to be chains.

[Crisis management]

Ouch!
There seems to be something about the DB that doesn't like my bunch of friends, did Roger actually comlete the course this year?

[Transalper]

was better pies in Albury....

Glad to hear pete-blen made it back after we lost him before the omarama sadde option
I don't believe you and yes.


....We were still late into Fairlie though.
There were a lot of virgins this year but still a great event. Theme last year was wheel bearings - this year it seems to be chains.

Think I may have seen you pull in as I was leaving the Gladstone heading to the motel.
I think it takes a first attempt to learn the biggest lessons for a better run next year. It did with us too way back when it all started having never done anything like it before.
And now that I think of it I'm actually still doing something a little different every time.
Usually do pies on the run, usually works for me but this year I took the main route having done some of the other stuff down there a month ago. This let me enjoy myself a little more and be able to complete the whole thing without burning out.
Sat down for a decent brunch each day and had a good pub meal in Omarama to carry me through the sleepy straights ahead each side of the Black forest. Then there was the nana nap in Naseby next to the fire at the cafe while we waited on food and the newspapers I stuffed in my boots drew out some of the water still in them from wading the Fairlie river at the start of the day. I think that time spent there made the rest of my Saturday a breeze.

I've tweaked some of my posts, I see I wrote we (Ryan, Alex and I) had a late breakfast in Fairlie for example... but we were in Waimate!

Only a hand full of photos caught on my phone....
At the Fairlie River this post.

[Transalper]

Hawksburn Range - Busted chain busted the case... oil escaped, need-it to patch the hole and borrowed chain breaker from SkinnyBirdman to help get the chain in to a loop again.

Black Forest - I've only heard of about half a dozen cases of people trying to use a tyre pando can to fix a puncture in a tubed tyre. Only once did they actually manage to get to help with it and even then it needed topping up along the way.
Every other case it failed miserably and that's what happened when they tried it here.
These guys were cleaning up the mess it made and attempting to patch the tube properly when we happened by.
Seemed to be all under control so after grabbing the picture and swapping out my GPS batterys we continued on our way.

[brp]

I've only heard of about half a dozen cases of people trying to use a tyre pando can to fix a puncture in a tubed tyre. Only once did they actually manage to get to help with it and even then it needed topping up along the way.


Was told to give the pando the best chance of working the wheel has to be off the ground, and wheel has to be rotated
as the panda pumped in. Was this done ?

(Cannot recall if you give few pumps and rotate wheel few times or rotate as its pumping in, can
find out from the guy that has had success with them on trail bikes)

[Transalper]

Was told to give the pando the best chance of working the wheel has to be off the ground, and wheel has to be rotated
as the panda pumped in. Was this done ?

(Cannot recall if you give few pumps and rotate wheel few times or rotate as its pumping in, can
find out from the guy that has had success with them on trail bikes)

Don't know, wasn't there, we arrived after they had made the mess, white foam all over the place.
I can imagine having the wheel off the ground and rotating as you put a bit of the pando stuff in at a time to let it find the hole and set would help.
I'll always patch the tube properly or replace it myself.

[brp]

Don't know, wasn't there, we arrived after they had made the mess, white foam all over the place.
I can imagine having the wheel off the ground and rotating as you put a bit of the pando stuff in at a time to let it find the hole and set would help.
I'll always patch the tube properly or replace it myself.

Think the rotating is to ensure the foam is even around the tube too, use of a panda
is in the xr manual, would assume Honda would not bother if they did not work.

[thepom]

When we got there they were taking it out the second time as they pinched it putting it in ...

[pete-blen]

was better pies in Albury....

Glad to hear pete-blen made it back after we lost him before the omarama sadde option


Took a wrong turn... by the time I sorted it out...no one anywhere in site...

Run across rigley at the gate at the gorge with a millon river crossing leading to the Omarama saddle..
Then we came across Poraki/flashg & another... all was going well till the elephant done the starter clutch in a crossing..
pushing/pulling & tow starting he got it though... some how I managed to de-rail a chain in one of the crossing..

that was a good dusty..:niceone: apart from my little 70/80kmh get off.. think I passed cynna "Colin" doing cartwheels..:facepalm:

great to ride withe yers all....:niceone::niceone:

[Woodman]

Just got home, me and Umopom decided to come home through the rainbow. Heavy snow all the way through so am now thawing out.

Great dusty, The noob that came with me loved it even though he completely submerged his KTM at the first river crossing. Welcome to the dustybutt. Wade had to bug out at Kurow as an old ankle injury meant he couldn't stand up and was worried about the Awakino. Was a good decision as the Awakino was the hardest it has ever been for some reason.

KLR done me proud for the 5th dusty in a row. Both fork seals blown (again) and a broken headlight (again). Not selling it now so stop lining up ok.

[timg]

Well that was another awesome DB done and dusted.
Saturday was a pleasant run thru doing the easy options with Chasio and getting into Alex at 7.20 and a well earned feed at Monteiths after Struan had finished rescuing dead bikes.

Sunday was more challenging with the Lammermoors wearing my riding buddy out :( and by the time we reached Struan's fuel stop it was well late. Chasio stayed to repair his bike, have a rest and continue back with Struan. Bad luck mate but there's always next year, and having done most of it you know what to prepare fore next time.

Having a deadline to be home/at work I skipped the Omarama section and zapped thru Dansey's and Black Forest getting home at 9.30. Despite the short cut it was an awesome and enjoyable weekend with great company.

Big ups to Struan for once again saving the day for so many.:2thumbsup

See you all again next year :)

[XF650]

Ouch!
There seems to be something about the DB that doesn't like my bunch of friends, did Roger actually comlete the course this year?

Roger doesn't reply to DNS's.

[pouakai]

Took a wrong turn... by the time I sorted it out...no one anywhere in site...

Run across rigley at the gate at the gorge with a millon river crossing leading to the Omarama saddle..
Then we came across Poraki/flashg & another... all was going well till the elephant done the starter clutch in a crossing..
pushing/pulling & tow starting he got it though... some how I managed to de-rail a chain in one of the crossing..

that was a good dusty..:niceone: apart from my little 70/80kmh get off.. think I passed cynna "Colin" doing cartwheels..:facepalm:

great to ride withe yers all....:niceone::niceone:

Big ups to guys I was riding with for the moral support and rigley for the tow starts. I really thought I was in trouble for a moment - a 200kg bike stalled in the middle of the river with no starter ! Really glad I wasn't on my own! It was quite an intimidating prospect getting out of the Omarama saddle valley all the way home without stalling once, but it's all good experience to have under the belt.

Cheers all.

[XF650]

Black Macpac bum bag lost on Dunstan Trail, possibly at start of Serpentine.
Anyone pick it up?

[_Shrek_]

Black Macpac bum bag lost on Dunstan Trail, possibly at start of Serpentine.
Anyone pick it up?

might just have to go for a :ride: when we get back from out northern trip :shifty: then have a garage sale ;)

[slicker]

I believe it was a blue Fox bumbag. I'll buy back number plate 40WQA if found and a Trailtech stand from last year too.


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[pampa]

made it back home last night had good ride with even more awesome riders
started with 3.5h cross through Molesworth nonstop
then some deep gravel at night looking for a hutt which was not without many "moments"
then a wet ride from Oxford to Fairlie where heated greaps stopped working on the last 50k

Saturday saw us with early start (6am), being the second group till a ktm 690 and stock dr passed us like standing.
first minor issue there chain came off on a river but no biggie other than wet foots for me and Jack who pushed me out.
It was then were ktm and dr passed. but it wasn't a race :killingme. later on dropped the bike on a gate when stopping to close it. it was were my finger got caught and as it turned is Broken which I found today.
Then some more gravel fuel and into Awakino. It was one of the hardest things I have rode on. It totally and utterly burned me. I'm reasonably fit but griping the bike to death must have caused me to totally burn. Finally needed help to lift the bike several times. Help to ride bike down on one small section and after the first Hutt started to get multiples cramp all at once.
One of my buddies ride bike up that section while I took energy gel and sodium to help with cramps. While I rested the bike electric s were on which depleted my Small battery. Luckily the ktm could run without one so we swapped battery. The rest was very slow for me half burned half panicked with lot of snow and awesome views. We could see Mount Cook awesome again.
The final descent was scary for me. My brakes, worked extra hard
Finally on last challenge between Cromwell and Alexandra was more my thing (read easy) and had some fun. regrettably was very dusty specially final fast section
we got back 8pm

[pampa]

Sunday my finger was really swollen and decided to bypass most of the day except last easy section through black forest with Crim. it was fun and on parts very dusty.
finally Monday saw us chasing the storm which for the most part left us dry, except maybe 10k around kaikoura
the sailing got me bad and passed two hours throwing out so got back petty bad. many thanks to vegeman that helped me with some distractions and bottle of water (sorry mate couldn't talk much and also all the water went back to the sea and a bit on my backyard :-S)

[Aslan]

very descriptive account of your time Pablo - sounds like you had a great time - that Awakino Saddle is certainly something else and yes the descent can be challenging!

Nice report thanks for posting :scooter:

[pete-blen]

I believe it was a blue Fox bumbag. I'll buy back number plate 40WQA if found and a Trailtech stand from last year too.


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While we are on the subject of things lost , things found....
I picked up a First Alert fire extinguisher lying by a gate somewhere on sunday..
May have been on the Old Dunstan road..????

[pampa]

I lost mine some were after awakino no idea brand but bought it super cheap auto 500g one slight melt in it

[pete-blen]

I lost mine some were after awakino no idea brand but bought it super cheap auto 500g one slight melt in it

1lb - 14.1oz red mini gas bottle type with a black plastic trigger thing on top...

[cynna]

Took a wrong turn... by the time I sorted it out...no one anywhere in site...

: apart from my little 70/80kmh get off.. think I passed cynna "Colin" doing cartwheels..:facepalm:
:

we waited at the challenge and bypass intersection for a while then thepom went up the road you must have went up for a while but you were no where to be seen. we thought you kept going up that road or maybe we missed you and you headed up the big saddle while we were crossing the river - glad you got out in the end....

thought there was no way you were getting up after that crash but you didnt even get hurt - you were rolling like a broken doll and i thought i was going to be picking you out of the fence

1 - how you landed (did check to see if he was ok before i took the pic.....)
2 - landed 8 m from the bike
3 - skid in the gravel to where the ditch launched your back wheel and where your bike landed
4 - my second off in the lammamores - didnt get pic of the first one as the bike was hurting my leg too much

[cynna]

1 - someone didnt quite make the corner
2 - Ryan in action
3 - Olly having a quick rest
4 - best mango smooty ever at laurence
5,6 - chopper looking for someone with a broken collar bone
7 - watching the weather close in

[chasio]

Well that was another awesome DB done and dusted.
Saturday was a pleasant run thru doing the easy options with Chasio and getting into Alex at 7.20 and a well earned feed at Monteiths after Struan had finished rescuing dead bikes.

Sunday was more challenging with the Lammermoors wearing my riding buddy out :( and by the time we reached Struan's fuel stop it was well late. Chasio stayed to repair his bike, have a rest and continue back with Struan. Bad luck mate but there's always next year, and having done most of it you know what to prepare fore next time.

Having a deadline to be home/at work I skipped the Omarama section and zapped thru Dansey's and Black Forest getting home at 9.30. Despite the short cut it was an awesome and enjoyable weekend with great company.

Big ups to Struan for once again saving the day for so many.:2thumbsup

See you all again next year :)

Thanks for all your help, Tim. Your willingness and patience were invaluable to my first DB.

Who'd have thought hitting the deck and then picking up a little mite like the Freewind out of ruts 5 times in 45 minutes would be so tiring? I felt a lot better after a wee rest and a cuppa down the road.

After the puncture identified at Moa Creek added insult to incompetence, Gordon from Epic and the omnihelpful Struan did most of my flat fix for me. Gordon had some good technique to borrow as well.

Heading back to Danseys with Struan on sweep behind I got another flat and his idea to borrow the wheel off Dave's broken DR was genius.

Thanks, Dave for the loan and later for the tube as well. You're a gent.

Made it back to Fairlie via the Haka at night (an experience in itself) to have done close to 1100 km for the weekend. Got in about 9pm I think, with my trailer-toting chaperone.

Currently stuck in Picton with Rogson and many others (this posted from my phone). We hope to be on the 7pm tonight but Neptune may have other ideas.

Lots of people helped this first timer and it was much appreciated. Tim, Struan, Rogson, Cooneyr and Transalper spring to mind but I am sure there were others.

Looking forward to coming back for another go, with at least a fresh rear tyre and maybe a more suitable machine.

Photos to follow when we finally get home!

Cheers, Chasio

[flashg]

My first Dusty Butt done. I had a fantastic time. Thanks Pouakai for organising the Friday ride which got very interesting doing the orari gorge section, i wouldn't have coped as well as you did, i was most impressed. Saturday was great, i hooked up with Matt and Dwayne riding 570 Husabergs who led me over the Awakino ranges. ( i watched many videos of this on youtube) nothing prepared me for what was in front of me. It was without doubt the hardest terrain i have ever ridden on. I somehow managed to get over without an off. Cheers Matt and Dwayne for leading me over. The Lamamoors managed to throw me off once, got through serpentine and big Omarama saddle no problem. What a great weekend thanks to cynna thepom and pete-blen as well. Taking the WR 450 was the best idea thanks SE950. My son is keen for next year on my XTZ 660. The hard standard seat on WR was ok even riding back to ch ch. I plan to return next year.

[rigley]

Took a wrong turn... by the time I sorted it out...no one anywhere in site...

Run across rigley at the gate at the gorge with a millon river crossing leading to the Omarama saddle..
Then we came across Poraki/flashg & another... all was going well till the elephant done the starter clutch in a crossing..
pushing/pulling & tow starting he got it though... some how I managed to de-rail a chain in one of the crossing..

that was a good dusty..:niceone: apart from my little 70/80kmh get off.. think I passed cynna "Colin" doing cartwheels..:facepalm:

great to ride withe yers all....:niceone::niceone:

Glad to meet up and have a "wing man" Pete, was feeling a bit knackered after all those river crossings, pushing bikes out of rivers, towing etc. We all managed to get back safely to Omarama, good to meet Chris, his son and Gordon along the way.

[rigley]

Big ups to guys I was riding with for the moral support and rigley for the tow starts. I really thought I was in trouble for a moment - a 200kg bike stalled in the middle of the river with no starter ! Really glad I wasn't on my own! It was quite an intimidating prospect getting out of the Omarama saddle valley all the way home without stalling once, but it's all good experience to have under the belt.

Cheers all.


Glad to be of help Chris, thanks for the loan of the jacket back to Fairlie, without it, I firmly believe hypothermia kills!!!!:cold:

[Skinny_Birdman]

Another pleasant DB1k, nice to ride with Ryan and TA again-just like old times. Thanks to TA for his help getting through the gooey bit over the Lammerlaws. Also a big thank you to Noel Jackson at High Country Motorcycles for dropping everything to help sorting my fuelling issues. Please look him up for all your specialist American bike needs.
Cheers
A

[rigley]

My first Dusty Butt done. I had a fantastic time. Thanks Pouakai for organising the Friday ride which got very interesting doing the orari gorge section, i wouldn't have coped as well as you did, i was most impressed. Saturday was great, i hooked up with Matt and Dwayne riding 570 Husabergs who led me over the Awakino ranges. ( i watched many videos of this on youtube) nothing prepared me for what was in front of me. It was without doubt the hardest terrain i have ever ridden on. I somehow managed to get over without an off. Cheers Matt and Dwayne for leading me over. The Lamamoors managed to throw me off once, got through serpentine and big Omarama saddle no problem. What a great weekend thanks to cynna thepom and pete-blen as well. Taking the WR 450 was the best idea thanks SE950. My son is keen for next year on my XTZ 660. The hard standard seat on WR was ok even riding back to ch ch. I plan to return next year.

Good to ride with you across the rivers heading back to Omarama Gordon :scooter:

[flashg]

Good to ride with you across the rivers heading back to Omarama Gordon :scooter:

without your tow rope Chris might still be there. A big thumbs up to you Rigley. It was great having you along as well. And your help with Pete-blen in the river went down very well. Cheer's

[timg]

Also a big thank you to Noel Jackson at High Country Motorcycles for dropping everything to help sorting my fuelling issues. Please look him up for all your specialist American bike needs.
Cheers A Wot! A Transalp having 'issues'? :wacko: Never! :oi-grr:

[Skinny_Birdman]

Wot! A Transalp having 'issues'? :wacko: Never! :oi-grr:
First 'major' issue in a cumulative 50000km? I'll take those numbers. It was still able to make it through Black Forest, even with shit in the carbs.

[MXNUT]

Sounds like the DB kept up its rep as a bike breaker ( or there were a lot more people un prepared this year ).

There must be a knighthood coming in next years honours list for Sir Struan.:mega:


Not many pics posted so far , hopefully there are more to come.

Was very Jealous last weekend and kept looking at my watch and thinking of all the cool places that the guys would have been at differnt times of the day

[slicker]

For those of you that wondered what the Awakino Saddle was like last week here are some pics.

Unknown Husaberg riders took one of me.

The track in the distance goes down from the summit into the valley with the stone hut.

[pouakai]

Thx slicker, pretty much confirms what I thought I might find up there...
P

[NordieBoy]

A bit cooler than in 2012...
<img width=640 src=http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20120121%20DB1K%20day%201/slides/20120121-154848.jpg>

[pete-blen]

A bit cooler than in 2012...



And the mighty 705 dose the Awakino...:niceone:

Knobblys.....:bleh:

[flashg]

And the mighty 705 dose the Awakino...:niceone:



Knobblys.....:bleh:




who was up there on 705's Pete ? I saw a bike up there on roady type tyres. Would have been ok. Traction was good. Snow was only on the tops

[pete-blen]

who was up there on 705's Pete ? I saw a bike up there on roady type tyres. Would have been ok. Traction was good. Snow was only on the tops


post 383.... Nordie in 2012 it would seem.......

[flashg]

post 383.... Nordie in 2012 it would seem.......




oh. He would've been fine this year as well.

[NordieBoy]

who was up there on 705's Pete ? I saw a bike up there on roady type tyres. Would have been ok. Traction was good. Snow was only on the tops

Snow and mud on the Lammamoors in 2012...
705's for the win!

http://youtu.be/W1W0cPCzsdo?t=3m35s
294731

[Underground]

A bit cooler than in 2012...


Is that a sheep you have strapped to the back of your bike nordie??

[NordieBoy]

Is that a sheep you have strapped to the back of your bike nordie??

One of the many trophies from the Awakino part of the ride.
Sheepy, mudguard, fire extinguisher, front number board and muffler off a KTM300 2 stroke...

[pampa]

from start to finish so is loooong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4qNDkjWBME

[NordieBoy]

from start to finish so is loooong

14:20 is Shrek's corner from 2012. Almost all the way out of the crap...

[pete376403]

That was a bit of an epic. I haven't finished watching (laptop battery about to die) but I'll get back to it. How many kms from start to end?

i wanted to do the dusty but after seeing this, maybe I' m not so sure.

[Transalper]

...i wanted to do the dusty but after seeing this, maybe I' m not so sure.
I've only skimmed the video so far but there's a big chunk of Awakino Challenge section in there so know that it's a challenge option you're looking at.

[pampa]

That was a bit of an epic. I haven't finished watching (laptop battery about to die) but I'll get back to it. How many kms from start to end?

i wanted to do the dusty but after seeing this, maybe I' m not so sure.

that section on the vid i believe is about 60/70K ... lots of loose rock, not a single baby head. To get there it was i believe 200k of easy gravel, and after that 100+ of mostly easy except the last challenge section after Cromwell, which would be really hard had it rained (clay surface) otherwise it was rutted but not too bad.

My main problem was burning too much energy and getting wasted after the first hutt, thus having to stop for 40' to recover :(

then of course I dropped the bike 5 times and got stuck once, of which 4 I needed some help. I'd say don't drop the bike makes it easier :chase:. I have good tyres and low pressure, possible needed to carry some more speed ... will have to keep practicing

but remember is a challenge ...

[flashg]

Great video Pampa it certainly reminds me how hard it was and i was on a wr450 but I'm a very average rider at best. I needed to stop a few times to suck in some air and rest. Never done anything quite like it before. Next year i plan to be fitter

[Woodman]

Great video Pampa it certainly reminds me how hard it was and i was on a wr450 but I'm a very average rider at best. I needed to stop a few times to suck in some air and rest. Never done anything quite like it before. Next year i plan to be fitter

Was harder than usual this year. My riding partner wanted to curl up in the snow and die he was that knackered, and he was on a 450exc. Poof.:shutup:

[flashg]

Was harder than usual this year. My riding partner wanted to curl up in the snow and die he was that knackered, and he was on a 450exc. Poof.:shutup:

thanks woodman it was my first now i don't feel so bad. My 32 year old son wants to take my 660 tenere over next year. He should be ok he's a much better rider than me and fitter. A new set of D606 should see him dig his way over. He's gonna make me do it again.

[pampa]

Was harder than usual this year. My riding partner wanted to curl up in the snow and die he was that knackered, and he was on a 450exc. Poof.:shutup:

can relate. My two riding partners were very good riders which is good as I had help on a couple of sections. The only think is they kept a very good rhythm which wore me out :sweatdrop