Gb400 / 650

[lh4]

GB400 with an xr650 engine fitted.
It's got a few other fancy bits too.

Check out photos e.t.c. at the trade me link below

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=636751867

[nallac]

Cool bike... would make a wicked base for a stripped down cafe racer

[HenryDorsetCase]

I would pay you three grand for that today. but the tardme price is $4500?

[avgas]

Some parts of that bike I love (koni's, engine, fork insides) But the rest of your mods look like its made to be ridden with gumboots.
What's with the love hump?

[Paul in NZ]

Some parts of that bike I love (koni's, engine, fork insides) But the rest of your mods look like its made to be ridden with gumboots.
What's with the love hump?

Its likely pregnant..... According to TM anyway...

[Drew]

GB400 is on the LAMs list. Cool, this bike isn't.

No modifications allowed.

Even if the cop doesn't realise it's a 650, the pod filter would get someone a ticket.

[HenryDorsetCase]

GB400 is on the LAMs list. Cool, this bike isn't.

No modifications allowed.

Even if the cop doesn't realise it's a 650, the pod filter would get someone a ticket.

what about if someone had a proper motorbike licence?

[Drew]

what about if someone had a proper motorbike licence?I'm just pointing out that the Trademe listing is misleading.

I imagine it is still registered as a 400. Illegal to sell it as a road legal vehicle at all without a cert though, so doesn't really matter.

[lh4]

I'm just pointing out that the Trademe listing is misleading.

I imagine it is still registered as a 400. Illegal to sell it as a road legal vehicle at all without a cert though, so doesn't really matter.

Rego on hold. Did you also read on my listing that time wasters aren't welcome? Are you a genuine buyer, or just wasting my time?

[lh4]

Its likely pregnant..... According to TM anyway...

Ha, oddly enough the questions are in jest. He always thinks he's funny. Especially when he's wearing his batman costume.

[lh4]

Some parts of that bike I love (koni's, engine, fork insides) But the rest of your mods look like its made to be ridden with gumboots.
What's with the love hump?

Agreed, thankfully I'm only responsible for the cool stuff. It's hilarious seeing the look on people's faces when they can't shake you from their mirrors

[lh4]

Cool bike... would make a wicked base for a stripped down cafe racer

Sure would! It was actually, but then I got a bit old, and added some comfy stay out of the rain stuff. Easy to unbolt of course!

[Drew]

Rego on hold. Did you also read on my listing that time wasters aren't welcome? Are you a genuine buyer, or just wasting my time?"It turns out a gb400 is LAMS legal too, so you learner and restricted license holders are in luck!"

No, they fucken aren't! The bike is modified.

"Current WOF (Photo of clean WOF sheet attached) and Reg on hold"

Was the wof done prior to the motor transplant or summat? I don't see any pictures of the cert for the repower.

Wasting your time? I prefer to think, I'm saving some poor learner a shit load of their time instead.

No, I'm not a genuine buyer. The thing is over priced for what it is too!

[lh4]

"It turns out a gb400 is LAMS legal too, so you learner and restricted license holders are in luck!"

No, they fucken aren't! The bike is modified.

"Current WOF (Photo of clean WOF sheet attached) and Reg on hold"

Was the wof done prior to the motor transplant or summat? I don't see any pictures of the cert for the repower.

Wasting your time? I prefer to think, I'm saving some poor learner a shit load of their time instead.

No, I'm not a genuine buyer. The thing is over priced for what it is too!

Wow, that was quick.
Time waster for sure.
Thanks for all your valuable input.
You're awesome.
And should be knighted, if you're not already of course.

[lh4]

I would pay you three grand for that today. but the tardme price is $4500?

Oddly enough I need to visit chch shortly to see the in laws. There's been a heap of interest, so I wouldn't give him away, but I would be keen on one last decent ride if location is an issue. Give me a call on the cell number listed if you are truly keen, and we could work out a deal. Would need to post the goodies that aren't bolted on though I guess?

[ZondaX15]

I got away with riding my extremely loud KTM with obviously aftermarket bits with an L plate, going through a cop stop and after he checked my license. Didn't even bring it up.

Unless they looked close enough at the engine case to read the "649cc" or whatever, no one's gonna bother you.

[Madness]

I'm just pointing out that the Trademe listing is misleading.

I imagine it is still registered as a 400. Illegal to sell it as a road legal vehicle at all without a cert though, so doesn't really matter.

Look at the last TM pic, it's registered as a 1992 NX 650 Dominator, which it isn't.

:facepalm:

Cool bike though.

[Murray]

Look at the last TM pic, it's registered as a 1992 NX 650 Dominator, which it isn't.

:facepalm:

Cool bike though.

The engine could be though???

[Madness]

The engine could be though???

It is, what's your point?

[Murray]

It is, what's your point?

So what should it be registered as?? Im interested and dont know the answer but my wife has a GB400 and I have been thinking of putting a 500 or something bigger in it - But Drew has bought up some points I hadn't thought about.

Strange how reggie sticker shows NXD650 - something must have happened somewhere

Happy for you to share your knowledge on the matter

[Madness]

So what should it be registered as?? Im interested and dont know the answer but my wife has a GB400 and I have been thinking of putting a 500 or something bigger in it - But Drew has bought up some points I hadn't thought about.

Happy for you to share your knowledge on the matter

If you repower an old Morry Minor with a 4AGE Toyota motor you're not going to transfer the plates from the donor car onto the Morry & get away with it. As Drew has eluded, certification is required for such a repower and it appears that this bike has simply had short-cuts taken (oops, I stuck the wrong plate on, officer). In all honesty I doubt it would pose a problem but any prospective buyer should be aware of what exactly they're buying - a potentially illegal vehicle.

[Murray]

If you repower an old Morry Minor with a 4AGE Toyota motor you're not going to transfer the plates from the donor car onto the Morry & get away with it. As Drew has eluded, certification is required and it appears that this bike has simply had short-cuts taken. In all honesty I doubt it would pose a problem but any prospective buyer should be aware of what exactly they're buying - a potentially illegal vehicle.

Thanks - so if I understand best scenario is to leave as GB400 registered but also display relevant certification.

cheers

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you repower an old Morry Minor with a 4AGE Toyota motor you're not going to transfer the plates from the donor car onto the Morry & get away with it. As Drew has eluded, certification is required for such a repower and it appears that this bike has simply had short-cuts taken (oops, I stuck the wrong plate on, officer). In all honesty I doubt it would pose a problem but any prospective buyer should be aware of what exactly they're buying - a potentially illegal vehicle.

repower fail. Rover V8 or nothing. or 13B Rotang.

[Madness]

repower fail. Rover V8 or nothing. or 13B Rotang.

You're showing your age, it's Lexus or Nissan Quadcam V8 these days.

Rotaries are for homos and vege farmers.

[HenryDorsetCase]

:( its true I am old.

the big issue with Morris minor repowers was the dire brakes, and weird front suspension with torsion arms and odd kingpin type arrangement. Not to mention the four inch wide crossplys and kind of vague steering.

I have got a magazine article somewhere about one done really well with rover V8, some sort of 5 speed manual trans and a cut down ford 8 inch diff. It was basically all new from the firewall forward.

[Madness]

:( its true I am old.

the big issue with Morris minor repowers was the dire brakes, and weird front suspension with torsion arms and odd kingpin type arrangement. Not to mention the four inch wide crossplys and kind of vague steering.

I have got a magazine article somewhere about one done really well with rover V8, some sort of 5 speed manual trans and a cut down ford 8 inch diff. It was basically all new from the firewall forward.

I'll wager $5 and a bag of chips that it was certified as well. ;)

[Drew]

Thanks - so if I understand best scenario is to leave as GB400 registered but also display relevant certification.

cheers
The bike is still a GB400. It should be registered thus.

Whole thing seems less and less legit, with every detail.

[Drew]

I think that picture of the dominator reg, is actually the back end of the dominator, rather than the GB.

Having had another look.

[Madness]

I think that picture of the dominator reg, is actually the back end of the dominator, rather than the GB.

Having had another look.

I think you're right. Underpaying licencing fee then?

[Drew]

I think you're right. Underpaying licencing fee then?
I'm all for it. I just think it's rough to encourage a learner to get the thing.

[lh4]

I got away with riding my extremely loud KTM with obviously aftermarket bits with an L plate, going through a cop stop and after he checked my license. Didn't even bring it up.

Unless they looked close enough at the engine case to read the "649cc" or whatever, no one's gonna bother you.

Oh my god. Someone finally gets it. Thank you sir.........

[lh4]

So what should it be registered as?? Im interested and dont know the answer but my wife has a GB400 and I have been thinking of putting a 500 or something bigger in it - But Drew has bought up some points I hadn't thought about.

Strange how reggie sticker shows NXD650 - something must have happened somewhere

Happy for you to share your knowledge on the matter

Just do it Murray. Best mod was the race tech cartridge emulators, 2nd best mod more cubes. Normally I love cubes as much as the next guy, but the emulators blow me away every time I get on. Sooooooo smooth.

I've been stopped at wof checkpoints "whilst on the way to a certification meeting" and never had an issue.

Come on people, last time I checked we're still kiwis. What's with the nanny state bullshit?

[pzkpfw]

It's simply fair to point out (admit) to potential buyers that "getting away with it" is not the same as being legal.


(Seen the same thing on TradeMe with a guy selling a GSX250 that had had the 400 in it. (In the pre-LAMS days). It was one thing to claim learners "could" ride it, because it was still registered as a 250. But it was really a straight out LIE to say it was actually legal. It's not nanny state stuff, just honesty to the buyer. Let them make the decision with full facts.)




Edit: 'cause I want to avoid bump if possible ...

It'd be fair to note that while he's still playing the "you can get away with it" card, he's admitted it's not LAMs compliant in his auction comments section ...


Question: Hi is this LAMS approved?

Answer: Not with the 650, but if you're keen I could put the 400 back in. It would take a couple of weeks though. Its still registered as a standard GB400, so if the new owner wanted to leave it that way and use it as a lams bike, thats completely up to them. Externally the XR650 and GB400 motor are virtually identical, so you'd have to have a pretty good eye to pick the modification.

Gosh I like members who join KB only to sell a bike.

[mossy1200]

"It turns out a gb400 is LAMS legal too, so you learner and restricted license holders are in luck!"

No, they fucken aren't! The bike is modified.

"Current WOF (Photo of clean WOF sheet attached) and Reg on hold"

Was the wof done prior to the motor transplant or summat? I don't see any pictures of the cert for the repower.

Wasting your time? I prefer to think, I'm saving some poor learner a shit load of their time instead.

No, I'm not a genuine buyer. The thing is over priced for what it is too!


+1.
Listed claiming its lams when its not. The rules are clear. No performance modifications are accepted on the Lams list.

You cant join a motorbike forum and try and mislead future or present motorcyclists without getting a negative reaction.:facepalm:

[mathornet]

+1.
Listed claiming its lams when its not. The rules are clear. No performance modifications are accepted on the Lams list.

You cant join a motorbike forum and try and mislead future or present motorcyclists without getting a negative reaction.:facepalm:

+1 for this post
I'm a learner and i think they should be aware of these kind of acts.. trust me.. a hell lot of people don't even know anything about motorcycles.. you tell them its LAMS and they will believe you and get it if it attracts them.

[the oldstuff]

Just as well cops don't ride bikes and read public forums I guess.

[lh4]

Just as well cops don't ride bikes and read public forums I guess.

So the GB has sold. Not to a wide eyed learner that should be afraid of a dirt bike engined road bike capable of an eye watering 50hp (GASP) that will kill anyone at the slightests hint of throttle, but to a true lover of modified things mechanical.

To all you time wasters and nay sayers - thanks for your valued input - you're keeping NZ as a backwards, yokel loving piece of proverbial at the bottom of the pacific. Well done I say, now fuck off to australia.........

The whole process on KB has made me a bit sad actually. To me, Horace is the epitomy of everything that made kiwiland great.

If you don't get it, try having another think.

Or maybe get a book from the library, read it, then have one more think.

[Drew]

So the GB has sold. Not to a wide eyed learner that should be afraid of a dirt bike engined road bike capable of an eye watering 50hp (GASP) that will kill anyone at the slightests hint of throttle, but to a true lover of modified things mechanical.

To all you time wasters and nay sayers - thanks for your valued input - you're keeping NZ as a backwards, yokel loving piece of proverbial at the bottom of the pacific. Well done I say, now fuck off to australia.........

The whole process on KB has made me a bit sad actually. To me, Horace is the epitomy of everything that made kiwiland great.

If you don't get it, try having another think.

Or maybe get a book from the library, read it, then have one more think.Hahahahaha, I'm responsible for all that? I'll have to make a note of how important I am.

Or maybe, you could have another think. About the misleading line in the ad, and the legality of such maybe?

[the oldstuff]

capable of an eye watering 50hp (GASP) that will kill anyone at the slightests hint of throttle


Yeah i guess I would be crying as well if my bike only had 50hp. I guess you are talking about dying of old age on the last part of quote?