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crfchick
30th September 2013, 09:22
Hopefully they pull through....scary stuff
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9225044/Crash-victims-still-in-ICU

FlangMasterJ
30th September 2013, 11:42
Only a matter of time with all the blind corners and people riding at silly speeds.

I think kezzafish had a head on up there.

Jay GTI
30th September 2013, 13:19
Yeah I won't ride uncontrolled areas anymore for that reason. I have a few too many close calls as a kid riding in open access forests and the like (had even less braincells back then).

Anyways, hope the guys involved get through ok!

Blagger
30th September 2013, 15:29
Farkin quads

I won't ride there in the weekend because of this sort of thing - only midweek

Crasherfromwayback
30th September 2013, 15:36
Hopefully they pull through....scary stuff
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9225044/Crash-victims-still-in-ICU

Yeah not cool. One is a mate of one of the boys here at WMCC.

jellywrestler
30th September 2013, 16:06
Farkin quads

I won't ride there in the weekend because of this sort of thing - only midweek

so you saw what happened, best get in touch with the cops as a witness eh?

Drew
30th September 2013, 17:08
so you saw what happened, best get in touch with the cops as a witness eh?Looked to be mumbled due to tongue in cheek to me bro.

unstuck
30th September 2013, 17:12
Ratshit for all involved. There are a couple of places I wont ride down here on the weekends if there are too many trailers parked up, I have seen a couple of guys get airlifted out after meeting in the wrong spot. Hope these fellas pull through ok.

jellywrestler
30th September 2013, 17:42
Looked to be mumbled due to tongue in cheek to me bro.

yeah but it might be offensive to those involved eh???

Mom
30th September 2013, 17:46
Only a matter of time with all the blind corners and people riding at silly speeds.

I think kezzafish had a head on up there.

Where is he now? I used to love his posts, and things...

Drew
30th September 2013, 17:53
yeah but it might be offensive to those involved eh???I tend to think, "sod it". But I see your point.

Jay GTI
1st October 2013, 09:32
yeah but it might be offensive to those involved eh???

I would say those involved will have a lot more important shit to worry about at this point in time.

fridayflash
1st October 2013, 09:39
I won't ride there in the weekend because of this sort of thing - only midweek

im with you there, i only go to places like this mid week etc now, woodhill has the best system (one way) but of course it takes a lot of time and money to setup and maintain that type of thing

Blagger
1st October 2013, 17:13
so you saw what happened, best get in touch with the cops as a witness eh?


No I didn't see this one happen but the news article said a quad and a bike were involved which is why I said farkin quads. They aren't real bikes and are only good for hunting or farms.

What I based it on is several hairy moments in the Akatarawas meeting quads around blind corners where they don't get out of the way cos they've got two wheels too many. That is why I said I don't go in there weekends any more. Maybe you do in which case we will never meet so everyone's happy.

Do you even ride trailbikes or are you another road rider who thinks he knows what offroad is like? Here in the dirt section we get that quite a bit


Fuck quads, fuck em sideways, fuck em twelve ways to Sunday and

Jelly wrestler; fuck you too.

Ocean1
1st October 2013, 18:44
Quads have as much right to be there as the rest of us.

Having said that they're a fucking sight harder to miss when you come across one. Most oncoming bikes seem to know the generally accepted rules, (although I've seen the odd idiot up there), but almost every time I've met an oncoming quad there's drama.

The obvious fix is to groom the rock garden a bit and turn the main trail into a one-way circuit. Trouble is it's a reserve, so we're more likely to get banned from it than get any actual work done.

Now that I think about it, though, the Karapoti classic sees thousands spent on trail grooming every year....

jellywrestler
1st October 2013, 19:04
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Do you even ride trailbikes or are you another road rider who thinks he knows what offroad is like? Here in the dirt section we get that quite a bit




Jelly wrestler; fuck you too.
I dont even have a bike.

unstuck
1st October 2013, 19:20
No I didn't see this one happen but the news article said a quad and a bike were involved which is why I said farkin quads. They aren't real bikes and are only good for hunting or farms.

What I based it on is several hairy moments in the Akatarawas meeting quads around blind corners where they don't get out of the way cos they've got two wheels too many. That is why I said I don't go in there weekends any more. Maybe you do in which case we will never meet so everyone's happy.

Do you even ride trailbikes or are you another road rider who thinks he knows what offroad is like? Here in the dirt section we get that quite a bit


Fuck quads, fuck em sideways, fuck em twelve ways to Sunday and

Jelly wrestler; fuck you too.

Bit harsh, I love going for a hoon on a decent quad. I even like hooning around on the farm on one and hunting with one. We cant hate and ban everything we do not like, cos it would be a boring place then.:msn-wink:

Boxabits
11th October 2013, 13:19
Maybe it is time to get a permit. Given that it is legally a public road, just like some beach roads. Like most people I have not bothered until now.
A six month permit is free: http://www.gw.govt.nz/trail-riding-permit/
They make it pretty clear: 30kph limit, keep left etc.

Legally your bike should be registered. Let's hope that doesn't get enforced.

It all boils down to someone making a bad judgement call. In this case with tragic consequences. Such incidents occur on the roads too.

A drastic life change for one family and a tragic loss for the other.

pampa
13th October 2013, 20:53
that's a good idea :2thumbsup. My only problem is I left to lapse have done it 2 or 3 times since I started to ride there a few years ago

Jay GTI
14th October 2013, 09:25
The issue with permits is only the responsible riders get them, who tend to ride responsibly as well. The single braincell, knuckle-dragging muppets that cause most of the issues will continue to ride illegally and dangerously.

(not directing any of that at the people involved in this particular accident).

drdoud
14th October 2013, 10:27
Came across the crash site yesterday. Hope the guys are doing ok.
My 2 cents :
Quads .... made for those who can't get proper balance on 2 wheels.
Clearly some don't have enough brain cells to realise that sliding in blind corners will eventually end badly.

Having said that got a lucky escape from a head on on my way out to car park with a bike.
Guy was coming in the gorge full throttle on the right side of the track on his RM :baby:
Plus the usual morons who are riding with singlets (got a video of it !!) or T shirts. What do they expect ?

As for grooming the devil staircase ??? :clap:; that'll be great, with toilets and free wifi as well ?
That's 1 of the only challenging parts of karapoti; if you can't make it as it is best to go for golf or darts.

Boxabits
14th October 2013, 15:26
Without wishing to offend or upset anyone. Where exactly was the crash site? from the news articles it sounds like it was somewhere near long crossing or orange hutt area.
There is no easy fix for this. Enforcement of the rules may help for a while. And, indeed, preventing just 1 crash is still a plus. But there is not much else except closing it altogether.
Some people suggested making parts of it one way. But that is impractical. And potentially more dangerous as riders may think they have the whole track and run into the poor bloke who broke down and is limping back home the short way. I think 1 way only works in a managed situation.

Anyway. Hope to be back in there soon. Now I have fixed the wife's car (The one with the towbar)