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bosslady
13th October 2013, 19:25
Looking at maybe picking up a 2nd hand road bike off trade me for a few hundy or so as I only live 6.5km from work, could do with saving some $$ but really it's cause im a fat bitch and could do with losing a kilo (or ten). I dont know anything about push bikes as in what i should be looking for, what size of bike, etc? Would really appreciate any advice and even better a link on TM to look at? As I really have no idea what Im looking for... Chur!
ellipsis
13th October 2013, 19:35
...the devil's contraptions...be very wary...
bosslady
13th October 2013, 19:37
...the devil's contraptions...be very wary...
lol why? :-P ...
speeding_ant
13th October 2013, 19:42
Take up mountain biking. Road biking is way too dangerous in my opinion, NZ drivers are out there waiting to smash into with much glee.
If you want advice on a mountain bike, I can help!
The Reibz
13th October 2013, 19:45
Take up mountain biking. Road biking is way too dangerous in my opinion, NZ drivers are out there waiting to smash into with much glee.
Might as well give up motorcycling then too ay. This could be the stupidest thing I have ever read on KB
bosslady
13th October 2013, 19:46
Take up mountain biking. Road biking is way too dangerous in my opinion, NZ drivers are out there waiting to smash into with much glee.
If you want advice on a mountain bike, I can help!
Can you ride a mountain bike on the road? road bikes with the lean forward position look ghey? Its not far to work, youre right though. I have early starts though so not much traffic and thought i might get one of those flashy lights and i might wear high vis.... for once.
mashman
13th October 2013, 19:47
There's more pedaling than pushing.
bosslady
13th October 2013, 19:49
Might as well give up motorcycling then too ay. This could be the stupidest thing I have ever read on KB
I reckon push bikes must be way scarier than motorcycles? i wont have the power or speed to keep up with traffic and will be less visible on the road.
sil3nt
13th October 2013, 19:51
Can you ride a mountain bike on the road? road bikes with the lean forward position look ghey? Its not far to work, youre right though. I have early starts though so not much traffic and thought i might get one of those flashy lights and i might wear high vis.... for once.You can put slick tyres on a MTB which will make the job a lot easier. But plenty of people commute to work on chunky off road tyres. They just have to pedal a bit harder.
I say find a cheap one on trademe. Give it a test ride, make sure brakes and gears work, and then you are away sailing (pedaling). 6.8km isn't far at all so even a piece of shit will get you there no worries.
Tazz
13th October 2013, 19:52
So you want a bike that makes you look cool....?
http://www.howtolivealifeofadventure.com/sites/default/files/images/cards/pic-card-bikes-in-bloom-3.jpg
Go into a bike store and have a look to figure out what you want and either buy it from them or look for similar secondhand.
Just to get to work though you should be able to pick something up for $100-200 that will do the trick.
bosslady
13th October 2013, 19:56
You can put slick tyres on a MTB which will make the job a lot easier. But plenty of people commute to work on chunky off road tyres. They just have to pedal a bit harder.
I say find a cheap one on trademe. Give it a test ride, make sure brakes and gears work, and then you are away sailing (pedaling). 6.8km isn't far at all so even a piece of shit will get you there no worries.
Good advice, sounds like a plan. How much do tyres for a bike sting you? The easier it is to pedal, the better, my ride will start with a reasonably sized hill, might have to walk up it initially since im such a weak fatty.
nzspokes
13th October 2013, 19:58
One of these will get you there quickly.
bosslady
13th October 2013, 20:00
Man I know nothingggggk about bikes. Guess it doesnt matter if im only going to and from work..
sil3nt
13th October 2013, 20:04
Good advice, sounds like a plan. How much do tyres for a bike sting you? The easier it is to pedal, the better, my ride will start with a reasonably sized hill, might have to walk up it initially since im such a weak fatty.Tyres are fairly cheap. $20 - $80 each.
Something like this might do
http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/INTYMNNPP/title/innova-mtb-slick-tyre---puncture-resistant
or
http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/MXTYMN8DT/title/maxxis-detonator-slick-mtb-tyre---26-inch
Trouble with commuting is that you ride in all the rubbish on the side of the road so you need to be careful of punctures.
The only way to get good at riding up hills is to ride up hills!
bosslady
13th October 2013, 20:08
One of these will get you there quickly.
Im thinking that might be a tad OTT
bosslady
13th October 2013, 20:10
Tyres are fairly cheap. $20 - $80 each.
Something like this might do
http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/INTYMNNPP/title/innova-mtb-slick-tyre---puncture-resistant
or
http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/MXTYMN8DT/title/maxxis-detonator-slick-mtb-tyre---26-inch
Trouble with commuting is that you ride in all the rubbish on the side of the road so you need to be careful of punctures.
The only way to get good at riding up hills is to ride up hills!
Geez that aint bad innit. Maybe I should have taken that up as a hobby instead, id be wayyyyy richer.
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 20:34
Second hand bikes can be a bastard, if they are flogged out already then they will suck up a lot of money and never be as good as a new one. I'd avoid buying someone elses shit unless you're an expert, And Im going to assume by your line of questioning that your not.
MTB vs road bike?
Fuck no, the difference is huge, Buy the bike that suits your purpose. Someone doing a daily commute on a road bike is either so fuckin fit they just want shit to be hard, or they don't know any better.
I wouldn't stop to piss on a $20 tire, nor would I fit one on my bike.(though having looked at that link I do like the $40 set)
What I done is I went to talk the the fucker I worked with who does 150km bike rides and asked him for a good brand, Specialized got the nod.
Then I had a look at the range, and picked out the flat bar road bike. Its not only got the flat bar but the frame is taller in the stem so I sit something like I do on my MTB.
Then, I visited the dealer and took her for a spin.
Fuckin beautiful, I gave the man the cash and took her home.
I was concerned about the wheels, Im a fat bastard and Im a rough fucker, Ive broken wheels on road bikes and on mtn bikes in the past, So far so good, They are still in the shape they were when I got her.
bosslady
13th October 2013, 20:36
This one looks tidy. Maybe just change the tyres etc.?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/cycling/mountain-bikes/front-suspension/auction-649760027.htm
bosslady
13th October 2013, 20:39
Second hand bikes can be a bastard, if they are flogged out already then they will suck up a lot of money and never be as good as a new one. I'd avoid buying someone elses shit unless you're an expert, And Im going to assume by your line of questioning that your not.
MTB vs road bike?
Fuck no, the difference is huge, Buy the bike that suits your purpose. Someone doing a daily commute on a road bike is either so fuckin fit they just want shit to be hard, or they don't know any better.
I wouldn't stop to piss on a $20 tire, nor would I fit one on my bike.(though having looked at that link I do like the $40 set)
What I done is I went to talk the the fucker I worked with who does 150km bike rides and asked him for a good brand, Specialized got the nod.
Then I had a look at the range, and picked out the flat bar road bike. Its not only got the flat bar but the frame is taller in the stem so I sit something like I do on my MTB.
Then, I visited the dealer and took her for a spin.
Fuckin beautiful, I gave the man the cash and took her home.
I was concerned about the wheels, Im a fat bastard and Im a rough fucker, Ive broken wheels on road bikes and on mtn bikes in the past, So far so good, They are still in the shape they were when I got her.
Not too sure what you're saying but I'm not going to buy a new bike, I just can't. Also not sure if you were trying to say mountain bikes with slicks fitted are a good or bad idea...?
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 20:39
I got one of these
http://www.specialized.com/au/en-au/bikes/fitness/sirrus/sirrus
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 20:41
Not too sure what you're saying but I'm not going to buy a new bike, I just can't. Also not sure if you were trying to say mountain bikes with slicks fitted are a good or bad idea...?
ffs.
You need to get a bit shitfaced and read my post again, then it may make sense.
But yeah.
Nevermind.
Grashopper
13th October 2013, 20:43
I would go for a hybrid bike. Hybrid as in not as hard work as a mountain bike, and not as flash as a road bike, but easy to ride. Especially if you're not used to it. The tires are not as wide as mountain bike tires, and about twice the width of a road bike tire. Have a look on trademe. But yeah, definitely try before you buy. Second hand bikes are fine, as long as you had a look at it in person and took it for a ride. Mine is an ex-rental hybrid bike. Never had any problems with it.
One of my friends bought a cheap warehouse mountain bike to ride to work. And did it once. She got so fed up with how heavy it was and how much work it was that she stopped riding it after this one ride. And she was pretty fit and used to cycling to begin with.
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 20:44
Also not sure if you were trying to say mountain bikes with slicks fitted are a good or bad idea...?
Yes, Bad idea.
Gearing is unsuitable
Seating position is unsuitable
They carry extra weight which makes it hard work
The extra tire width and size makes it hard work.
Fitting slicks will help in a small way, But you are better off with a bike that suits your purpose.
sil3nt
13th October 2013, 20:50
Yes, Bad idea.
Gearing is unsuitable
Seating position is unsuitable
They carry extra weight which makes it hard work
The extra tire width and size makes it hard work.
Fitting slicks will help in a small way, But you are better off with a bike that suits your purpose.I think you are missing the point that she is only riding 6.8km
Any fkn bike will do.
It's like someone wanting a motorbike to ride to the end of the road. Someone suggests a CT110 and you start suggesting supersports or superbikes.
If she wanted to start riding the bike for more than just commuting then sure get a decent bike.
Chances are she will commute twice and never do it again. No offense Bosslady :bleh:
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 21:00
The point is to simply buy a suitable bike, Not to buy the wrong shit, spend extra money on it, and then to still have the wrong shit.
Fuck, I only do an 8km loop, and now I know better I'm fucked if I'd do it on a mtb.
Making shit hard is pointless, whether over 6km or 60km.
sil3nt
13th October 2013, 21:02
Making shit hard is pointless, whether over 6km or 60km.Nah they call it exercise :bleh:
bosslady
13th October 2013, 21:03
ffs.
You need to get a bit shitfaced and read my post again, then it may make sense.
But yeah.
Nevermind. Gees bit cranky eh, have a cup of warm milk and CTFD...
Yes, Bad idea.
Gearing is unsuitable
Seating position is unsuitable
They carry extra weight which makes it hard work
The extra tire width and size makes it hard work.
Fitting slicks will help in a small way, But you are better off with a bike that suits your purpose.
Now, that actually makes sense, thank you.
haydes55
13th October 2013, 21:06
Buy a cruiser. My brother got a single speed beach cruiser brand new for $150. Rides mint, cruise everywhere, no need to wear a gimp suit.
If you buy a shitty rusty bike, I'd recommend wrapping tin foil around pairs of spokes to give the illusion of you being a rich cunt rolling on some massive chromies.
Alternatively tape a playing card to the front forks so it makes badass sounds against the spokes (scientifically proven to improve wheelies).
Start a thread about helmets now ;) I have other ideas about them to retain your coolness whilst rocking the polystyrene lid.
bosslady
13th October 2013, 21:06
I would go for a hybrid bike. Hybrid as in not as hard work as a mountain bike, and not as flash as a road bike, but easy to ride. Especially if you're not used to it. The tires are not as wide as mountain bike tires, and about twice the width of a road bike tire. Have a look on trademe. But yeah, definitely try before you buy. Second hand bikes are fine, as long as you had a look at it in person and took it for a ride. Mine is an ex-rental hybrid bike. Never had any problems with it.
One of my friends bought a cheap warehouse mountain bike to ride to work. And did it once. She got so fed up with how heavy it was and how much work it was that she stopped riding it after this one ride. And she was pretty fit and used to cycling to begin with.
Is there a certain brand or should I just type hybrid into the search box?
I think you are missing the point that she is only riding 6.8km
Any fkn bike will do.
It's like someone wanting a motorbike to ride to the end of the road. Someone suggests a CT110 and you start suggesting supersports or superbikes.
If she wanted to start riding the bike for more than just commuting then sure get a decent bike.
Chances are she will commute twice and never do it again. No offense Bosslady :bleh:
That sounds like a challenge.
ellipsis
13th October 2013, 21:08
...see, I fukn told ya... devils contraptions...
Laava
13th October 2013, 21:14
thought i might get one of those flashy lights and i might wear high heels....
What sort of bike?
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 21:18
If you do look at Hybrids, Try and get one without suspension, You don't need or want it for road use and it is extra weight and maintenance, and makes certain types of use hard work (namely going up steep hills, But then who the fuck wants to do that anyhow?)
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 21:20
Gees bit cranky eh, have a cup of warm milk and CTFD...
I have a persona to maintain.....
Can't be a shithead for 10 years then just drop the fucking act now can I?
Fuck no.
bosslady
13th October 2013, 21:21
If you do look at Hybrids, Try and get one without suspension, You don't need or want it for road use and it is extra weight and maintenance, and makes certain types of use hard work (namely going up steep hills, But then who the fuck wants to do that anyhow?)
unfortunately for me my ride would start with a couple of small hills...
Headbanger
13th October 2013, 21:23
Then I suggest a bike with a motor attached.;)
bosslady
13th October 2013, 21:25
Right, so, bike Sizing? what's what? how do you know what size to look At? I'm about 5ft 8?
scissorhands
13th October 2013, 21:26
This one looks tidy. Maybe just change the tyres etc.?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/cycling/mountain-bikes/front-suspension/auction-649760027.htm
It dont really matter what you get for a first bike, just get one that fits. Google 'bike size fit'
Fitness is the motive, so slower fat tyres would be better for you, being more work. The upside is the extra comfy ride and less strain on the wheels from extra pork, when you hit a curb or pot hole.
Get an 18speed shitter with low miles for $70. You live on the shore so need gears for the hills, a single speed cruiser would be fine on the flat only
Ride upwind of traffic unless you like sucking down exhaust gases. That means being on the footpath at times, so a mountain bike is best for that bumpy terrain.
A gel pad for the seat and a shocked seat stem will cushion your chubby tushy just nice.
Put a photo of Drew on the seat
bosslady
13th October 2013, 21:28
Then I suggest a bike with a motor attached.;)
Hmm I think I might have one of those already in the garage, hang on,..... yup sure do. It would be cheaper for me to buy a push bike and lose weight than it would be to buy a new pair of motorcycle pants as I'm really struggling to fit my lard ass in the ones I have and I'm not shelling out another 5 hundy for that! I seem to have gained more weight since I started Riding!
bosslady
13th October 2013, 21:34
It dont really matter what you get for a first bike, just get one that fits. Google 'bike size fit'
Fitness is the motive, so slower fat tyres would be better for you, being more work. The upside is the extra comfy ride and less strain on the wheels from extra pork, when you hit a curb or pot hole.
Get an 18speed shitter with low miles for $70. You live on the shore so need gears for the hills, a single speed cruiser would be fine on the flat only
Ride upwind of traffic unless you like sucking down exhaust gases. That means being on the footpath at times, so a mountain bike is best for that bumpy terrain.
A gel pad for the seat and a shocked seat stem will cushion your chubby tushy just nice.
Put a photo of Drew on the seat Haha funny. Thanks for the advice. Need to change my location im actually more central / west now.
Berries
13th October 2013, 22:25
Right, so, bike Sizing? what's what? how do you know what size to look At? I'm about 5ft 8?
Why don't you try a pushbike forum, found this one quickly enough - http://www.vorb.org.nz/
You shouldn't limit the amusement you provide just to KB.
nerrrd
13th October 2013, 22:32
I seem to have gained more weight since I started Riding!
Maybe it's muscle, muscle weighs more than fat I keep telling myself.
I went the comfort route for my pushbike, nice big fat cushiony tyres, wide sprung seat that doesn't cut you in half, front suspension, but the bike itself is a bit porky and very un-styley - as others have said, I figured if I was riding it for exercise then more weight was a good thing. I only ride it to and from Cornwall Park every now and again, so getting somewhere on time isn't an issue (unlike cycling to work).
If you're riding anywhere near the gutters on the road you will get punctures, I've had several all from slivers of broken glass, but don't worry even I can fix a puncture on a pushbike.
And as far as hivis goes, during daylight in traffic I'd say that it's not so much that the cars can't see you, it's more that you're in their way, so be ready to be bullied - some drivers only see cyclists as obstacles, not as actual squishy, vulnerable human beings. At night definitely go reflective hivis and lights, freaks me out how invisible some cyclists are at night.
nzspokes
14th October 2013, 05:51
Why don't you try a pushbike forum, found this one quickly enough - http://www.vorb.org.nz/
You shouldn't limit the amusement you provide just to KB.
Vorb is dead these days.
Maha
14th October 2013, 06:11
Whatever you buy, it will end up on TM within two months anyway so don't waste to much time/effort and money.
unstuck
14th October 2013, 07:13
Didn't I see you taking your kid for a ride this weekend??
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/3icrJFszexA/hqdefault.jpg
speeding_ant
14th October 2013, 07:36
Might as well give up motorcycling then too ay. This could be the stupidest thing I have ever read on KB
Truly? Ever ridden a road bike in Wellington mate? I'm talking from experience, not from a lack of brain cells.
speeding_ant
14th October 2013, 08:02
The point is to simply buy a suitable bike, Not to buy the wrong shit, spend extra money on it, and then to still have the wrong shit.
Fuck, I only do an 8km loop, and now I know better I'm fucked if I'd do it on a mtb.
Making shit hard is pointless, whether over 6km or 60km.
8km is fuck all on a mountain bike (or a road bike).
DISCLAIMER: Don't read the rest if you only want to spend $500.
Bosslady, at 5.8', presuming you're quite new to cycling, I'd be looking at spending around $1200 on a relatively light cross country bike with front suspension. I'm not against road bikes, but for a newbie their riding position is scary, and if you don't spend a lot of money they are REALLY uncomfortable on anything other than nicely paved roads. Road bikes are also too specific if you're just travelling that distance, so you may as well get an XC bike to enjoy off-road as well. If you really get into it, anything crap will quickly get on your nerves due to shite components.
Suspension: anything with anodised stanchions will be good enough and will last a relatively long time (just service them once a year or so). Chrome usually means cheap heavy suspension, and it rusts and pits within months. Usually crap dampening, leaving you with the equivalent of a 3 inch pogo stick. Rockshox are dependable at the cheaper end. Don't get Manitou cheapies. Fox will be too expensive. I've heard Suntour is upping their game too, but I don't think big brands OEM them yet.
Brakes: most hydraulic brakes these days will be by far good enough to do the job for a newbie.
Running gear: Shimano: Deore, SLX or above. SRAM: X7 or above.
Brands: if you're buying new, $1200 may get you a decent bike with the above components if you get a 50% off deal from Giant, Specialized or Kona.
Those are the most important bits. I'm speaking from experience, have played this game many times over 8 years or so. Don't listen to sales people either, get a really good idea on what you want to get first.
duckonin
14th October 2013, 08:39
You're a smart lass, now do the job properly. "Head to a bike shop" for the best advice, or maybe two/three for comparison.
You can spend a lot of time on TM finding what you may think is suitable. Then time and trouble to go to where bike is only to fine it is a heap of shit.
A good bike shop will size you up to your bike and that is very important. Re-sale of a bike second hand is 1/4 of what you paid for it new. Good makes include, Avante, Trek, Giant, these will last you a life time.
Banditbandit
14th October 2013, 08:44
Hmm I think I might have one of those already in the garage, hang on,..... yup sure do. It would be cheaper for me to buy a push bike and lose weight than it would be to buy a new pair of motorcycle pants as I'm really struggling to fit my lard ass in the ones I have and I'm not shelling out another 5 hundy for that! I seem to have gained more weight since I started Riding!
Damm .. and here I was thinking that you were going to make the stalkers happy with pictures of Bosslady in lycra ...
http://www.thecultureconcept.com/circle/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Perhaps-a-reason-for-the-anti-lycra-brigade.jpg
bosslady
18th February 2014, 22:10
Oh my gosh... just picked a bike up. Rode it down the driveway and have thus far figured out I have bloody awful balance!
FJRider
19th February 2014, 07:50
Oh my gosh... just picked a bike up. Rode it down the driveway and have thus far figured out I have bloody awful balance!
At low speed in confined areas ... it can be tricky. Just like on a motorbike.
Once you get the hang of the gears (and changing up and down) you'll feel more comfortable. You just have to remember to keep moving forward (read pedaling)to change gears ...
Maha
19th February 2014, 07:56
I look forward to the TM listing in approximately three months.
SMOKEU
19th February 2014, 08:02
Ride the push bike when you're pissed. Drunk cycling is awesome.
rustyrobot
19th February 2014, 08:12
Ride the push bike when you're pissed. Drunk cycling is awesome.
And keeps the ambos busy. In the 3 years I was a volunteer for St. Johns I attended 1 motorcycle accident and more drunken bicycling accidents than I could count. Broken collar bones were a favourite. Drunken cyclist vs kerb the most common cause.
SMOKEU
19th February 2014, 08:19
And keeps the ambos busy. In the 3 years I was a volunteer for St. Johns I attended 1 motorcycle accident and more drunken bicycling accidents than I could count. Broken collar bones were a favourite. Drunken cyclist vs kerb the most common cause.
I've been riding push bikes very drunk for many years almost every weekend, and have never binned a push bike when pissed. I do quite a bit of cycling though so I know how to handle a push bike. It's all about riding to your buzz.
FJRider
19th February 2014, 08:29
Oh my gosh... just picked a bike up. Rode it down the driveway and have thus far figured out I have bloody awful balance!
Post a pic of said machine ...
rustyrobot
19th February 2014, 08:34
I've been riding push bikes very drunk for many years almost every weekend, and have never binned a push bike when pissed. I do quite a bit of cycling though so I know how to handle a push bike. It's all about riding to your buzz.
I know this is controversial, and I seriously do NOT condone drunk driving, but I think that the more you do something (eg. ride a bike) in a certain state the better you are IN THAT STATE. So if you never drive your car stoned, for example, and then you do one time it's going to be a nervous first drive. If you have done it lots of times then you will be more in control than someone who is only doing it for the first time.
Having said that - cars, trucks, tanks and motorbikes are deadly weapons when used incorrectly and no one should ever get behind the wheel/throttle if they are: over emotional, over-tried, over-hungry, drunk, stoned or otherwise impaired.
Yamahardman
19th February 2014, 08:37
my bomber 55's are still mint and they're chrome, haha.
I go with the idea of having a budget, and then buying yesteryears expensive technology as opposed to todays cheaper technology.
Example- I own a gt xcr1000 from the mid to late 90's. Got the frame for free, brought some forks, converted some stuff from my hardtail.
cost all up= $600.
you'll be paying well over $1500 for any kind of frame that actively manages pedal bob and has suspension and frame that can handle the national downhill track in rotorua.
the downside to my bike though, is that its heavy... 18kg to be exact.
SMOKEU
19th February 2014, 09:26
I know this is controversial, and I seriously do NOT condone drunk driving, but I think that the more you do something (eg. ride a bike) in a certain state the better you are IN THAT STATE. So if you never drive your car stoned, for example, and then you do one time it's going to be a nervous first drive. If you have done it lots of times then you will be more in control than someone who is only doing it for the first time.
Having said that - cars, trucks, tanks and motorbikes are deadly weapons when used incorrectly and no one should ever get behind the wheel/throttle if they are: over emotional, over-tried, over-hungry, drunk, stoned or otherwise impaired.
Exactly. I'm against drink driving and riding (motorbikes), so the push bike is the most sensible way of getting around when I'm pissed. After so much experience riding a push bike absolutely shitfaced, I'm quite safe to ride (a pushbike) in that state.
FJRider
19th February 2014, 09:51
Exactly. I'm against drink driving and riding (motorbikes), so the push bike is the most sensible way of getting around when I'm pissed. After so much experience riding a push bike absolutely shitfaced, I'm quite safe to ride (a pushbike) in that state.
The legal definition of a bicycle is .. a vehicle. And is actually an offense to be "In charge" of a vehicle while intoxicated. It is even an offense to ride a bicycle on o footpath (as an adult) without appropriate legislation in place to allow it (As Postie's have).
Regardless of the fact that no license is required to "operate" it ...
SMOKEU
19th February 2014, 10:40
The legal definition of a bicycle is .. a vehicle. And is actually an offense to be "In charge" of a vehicle while intoxicated. It is even an offense to ride a bicycle on o footpath (as an adult) without appropriate legislation in place to allow it (As Postie's have).
Regardless of the fact that no license is required to "operate" it ...
I'm yet to hear of a single verified case of anyone being charged with EBA on a push bike, or the equivalent. I've heard plenty of stories about "my mates uncles friend got busted DIC on a push bike" (even though there's no such thing as DIC in NZ), yet each time I ask which specific charges were laid, I get told a bunch of bullshit that has no basis in fact whatsoever.
The fact remains, that as long as the cyclist is obeying the majority of the basic road rules, such as giving way and stopping at intersections when required, wearing an approved helmet (or one that looks like it), and has the appropriate lights in hours of darkness, the cops really don't give a fuck about cyclists unless they're doing something really dumb like swerving all over the road or riding in an obviously dangerous manner, or if they're wanted for another crime. I've been stopped by police many times when either operating a motor vehicle or being an occupant of a motor vehicle, yet I've never had any attention from cops on a push bike. I've been waved right through alcohol checkpoints even when I'm pissed as fuck, and I've showed up to the skids on my push bike, and when the cops busted it they checked all the cars over but let me right through. Moral of the story? Ride a push bike sensibly when drunk and the cops really don't care.
rustyrobot
19th February 2014, 11:02
The legal definition of a bicycle is .. a vehicle.
I'm not sure about that. The Land Transport Act appears to disagree. Perhaps our learned friend Mr HenryDorsetCase esquire would be able to weigh in on this.
Part 6
Driving offences involving drink or drugs, and penalties and procedures
Offences and penalties
56Contravention of specified breath or blood-alcohol limit
(1)A person commits an offence if the person drives or attempts to drive a motor vehicle on a road while the proportion of alcohol in the person's breath, as ascertained by an evidential breath test subsequently undergone by the person under section 69, exceeds 400 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath.
Part 1
Preliminary provisions
2 Interpretation
motor vehicle—
(a)means a vehicle drawn or propelled by mechanical power; and
(b)includes a trailer; but
(c)does not include—
(i)a vehicle running on rails; or
(ii)[Repealed]
(iii)a trailer (other than a trailer designed solely for the carriage of goods) that is designed and used exclusively as part of the armament of the New Zealand Defence Force; or
(iv)a trailer running on 1 wheel and designed exclusively as a speed measuring device or for testing the wear of vehicle tyres; or
(v)a vehicle designed for amusement purposes and used exclusively within a place of recreation, amusement, or entertainment to which the public does not have access with motor vehicles; or
(vi)a pedestrian-controlled machine; or
(vii)a vehicle that the Agency has declared under section 168A is not a motor vehicle; or
(viii)a mobility device
neels
19th February 2014, 11:26
(viii)a mobility device
Mobility scooters for getting home from the pub when too pissed to drive :2thumbsup
There are other laws they could get you on related to being intoxicated if they wanted I guess..
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