Upgrade advice: Thoughts on these super sports bikes?

[pratik8890]

Hey guys I've saved enough dosh to buy one of these super sports bike ( second hand only):

Yamaha R1 ( Year 04 t0 12') or R6 ( year 06 to 12')
Kawasaki ZX10 ( Year 05 t0 12')
Honda CBR ( Year 05 t0 12')
Ducati 749, 999 and 848 ( their respective years)
Mv Agusta F4 750 or 1000 ( their respective years)
KTM Rc8 ( their respective years)


Some of my mates tell me not to go with European bikes as they are super expensive to maintan, their parts cost too much etc. So I was hoping to get your input if you happen to be the owner of such bike or otherwise.

So please give me your thoughts on each or either of them. Thank you

P.S- I would be keen to know if any of you have any plans to sell any of these bikes.

[F5 Dave]

Sure. Everyone will tell you what they would buy & ignore the fact your profile says you have a 250, but then justify it by saying the throttle works both ways & you should jump straight on a thou. Sure you can handle it. blahblah, thread in 2 months time.


Heck I never thought I was ready for such a step & went to a 500 single first.

[Smifffy]

Save time & money and buy this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-654048027.htm

[Swoop]

Get the R6. Spend all the extra coin on good rider training courses and protective gear.

[Ender EnZed]

Get a GSXR1000.

[EJK]

Get a busa

[pratik8890]

Sure. Everyone will tell you what they would buy & ignore the fact your profile says you have a 250, but then justify it by saying the throttle works both ways & you should jump straight on a thou. Sure you can handle it. blahblah, thread in 2 months time.


Heck I never thought I was ready for such a step & went to a 500 single first.


Thats true but I've been riding couple of my work mates 1000cc bikes which includes Yamaha R1 and Kawasaki ZX10 R when ever we go for long bike rides. And I may be not the best rider around but I can be one of the best when it comes to riding carefully on the road and staying safe. The new rules sucks cos I had to wait for 18 months before getting my full license as I am still under 25.

I'm keen to buy a R6 but there are hardly any decent ones around :(

[pratik8890]

Get a busa

I feel the sarcasm, its still tempting tho but I will wait until Im 30 or above before getting a busa cos it's too bulky for now unless I get a shorty exhaust :)

[pratik8890]

Get a GSXR1000.

Might do, thank you for the advise.

[pratik8890]

Get the R6. Spend all the extra coin on good rider training courses and protective gear.

Yeah i'm keen to buy one but there are hardly any decent ones around for sale. Plz lemme know if you know of any. cheers

[pratik8890]

Save time & money and buy this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-654048027.htm


That right there is the bike of the decade mate but I'm not worthy enough to buy it yet so imma have to pass your generous offer for now :P

[Tazz]

Save time & money and buy this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-654048027.htm

Yours? What does it need for a WOF? Couple of bulbs?

[The Reibz]

I feel the sarcasm, its still tempting tho but I will wait until Im 30 or above before getting a busa cos it's too bulky for now unless I get a shorty exhaust :)

Don't mean to shit in your sandwich but that isn't going to make the busa any less bulky. You should still get one though, I went from a FZR250 to a FZR1000 for 3 weeks and then a busa. They are a loose bike when you want them to be.

[pratik8890]

Don't mean to shit in your sandwich but that isn't going to make the busa any less bulky. You should still get one though, I went from a FZR250 to a FZR1000 for 3 weeks and then a busa. They are a loose bike when you want them to be.

I m a secret/big admirer of Busa since 2004 when I first saw it in a movie. I really like the orange/black model from 2008 onwards. I Might give it a crack but have to save up few more $$$ cos atm they're going between 12 to 15 k second hand. Thanks for restoring my interest in them again.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-651822814.htm


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-652458485.htm


sorted

[rapid van cleef]

The power of a 1000cc sports bike is great fun but complete overkill on the road in my opinion. If you want a sports bike, buy a 600. Still capable of travelling far too fast, more than capable of speeds that are way more than most people would ever use and you have to ride it hard to get the same result as a 1000.

[Road kill]

Do yourself a favor and at lest consider the Triumph Speed Triple.

It doesn't have the HP of most of the list but the perfectly placed tourqe makes it more useable in everyday conditions.

The only other bike on the list I've actually ridden is the R1 from about 02.

I got off it thinking I want one,,but I'm gonn'a die,,,but I still wouldn't mind one.

The Triumph I got off thinking I want I want I want,and I still want.

In fact there's a bloody good chance a Speedy will be my next bike.

[300weatherby]

You have listed so many widely varied options, you clearly don't actually know what you want or need. Test a few, decide on a particular platform, then go looking.


For a Busa!!!!!!!!!!!:yes:

[The Reibz]

This is soon to be a collectors item. Keep it stock and you should get a big pay out from it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-652278949.htm

Could be worth a bid. Chuck 7.5k on it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-653432565.htm

[tigertim20]

Hey guys I've saved enough dosh to buy one of these super sports bike ( second hand only):

Yamaha R1 ( Year 04 t0 12') or R6 ( year 06 to 12')
Kawasaki ZX10 ( Year 05 t0 12')
Honda CBR ( Year 05 t0 12')
Ducati 749, 999 and 848 ( their respective years)
Mv Agusta F4 750 or 1000 ( their respective years)
KTM Rc8 ( their respective years)


.
since everyone else has lready told you youll die, Ill take the other path. if youve decided what you want, youre going to do it anyway, you arent 5 years fuckin old, im sure you can make your own decisions.
The R1's are great, imo the 04-06 were the best looking, I have an 08 and it's insane!!, but Id probably tell you out of the whole lot, to go buy a cross plane, I think the '12 R1 had all the extra goodies like TC and shit, if you have the coin, thats where Id spend it. I wanted one, but couldnt quite afford it so settled on the 08.
The R6's arent a terrible bike, but they LOVE to be revved - great fun in the hnds of a confident rider in the right place like a track:Police::bleh:

The ZX10, the 05 is an awesome bike, but has a reputation as being a real handful, so approach with caution, the slightly later 07~ or so with the undertails were a little more watered down and might be your style, but I personally think they look a bit clunky and heavy - Im not saying they ARE, just they look like it. since all your options have loads of power, It's not unreasonable to have what looks the prettiest as a factor in your decision!

for me, the pick of the duc's would be the 848, personal preference only.

dont know much about the MV's so Ill leave that for some one who is familiar with them.

the RC8 is a nice bike, I have a couple friends who own them, and they love them. a nice bike but not my cup of tea.

If you want to know what I would buy from that list, it would be the 12 R1, followed shortly after by any of the other crossplane models (09+) but most on that list are pretty damned equal so you might need to whittle your list down to 3-4 models, then go test riding.




The power of a 1000cc sports bike is great fun but complete overkill on the road in my opinion. If you want a sports bike, buy a 600. Still capable of travelling far too fast, more than capable of speeds that are way more than most people would ever use and you have to ride it hard to get the same result as a 1000.

I dont understand the get a 1000, get a 600 argument when put like this. a 600 ALSO has WAY more power than one NEEDS, most will do around 250km/hr or more, and arent a huge amount behind than their 1000cc counterparts. after all the speed limit is 100 right? if youre going to make the argument that a 1000 is overkill, you should be advocating something like a gs500 or something else equally bland.

motorcycles are rarely about what you need, and more about what you WANT.

regardless of what the OP buys next, the cost of ongoing training should be factpred into their finances, the benefits of it can be as valuable on a 250 as a 1000.

[Motig]

Heres a revolutionary idea - how about sorting out what bike you really would like then researching it. Buy the one YOU like.

[bluninja]

I think you should go for a Busa...since your legs are so short....:rolleyes:

Personally I think you should spend the money on better gear, then get a better bike. Are you still wearing fingerless gloves? If so maybe you should switch to a Harley where they won't look out of place :cool:


Seriously though, pick one from the list that appeals to you most. Then go and check it out and see if it really floats your boat. If you aren't in love with it, try the next model. All people can give their opinions on the bikes they've ridden and owned, but they aren't you. Their stature, build, skill level, experience, life stage and what they want out of the bike will all influence their decision.

[Asher]

Have a go on a either a new zx6r or and 05-06 one, they are 636cc which doesnt sound like much but makes a decent difference to the low and mid range torque. Same goes for a 675 daytona.

I think litre sport are over kill and have never regretted buying a super sport bike

[Gremlin]

The ZX10, the 05 is an awesome bike, but has a reputation as being a real handful, so approach with caution, the slightly later 07~ or so with the undertails were a little more watered down and might be your style, but I personally think they look a bit clunky and heavy - Im not saying they ARE, just they look like it. since all your options have loads of power, It's not unreasonable to have what looks the prettiest as a factor in your decision!
For the ZX10R, the 04-05 was the first model and a handful. The 06-07 (wheelbarrow) was much easier to ride, sat further into the bike etc. Also had a steering damper standard, and while not brilliant, the 04 didn't have one standard (well advised to fit one if one hasn't been already fitted)


I dont understand the get a 1000, get a 600 argument when put like this. a 600 ALSO has WAY more power than one NEEDS, most will do around 250km/hr or more, and arent a huge amount behind than their 1000cc counterparts. after all the speed limit is 100 right? if youre going to make the argument that a 1000 is overkill, you should be advocating something like a gs500 or something else equally bland.
For me at least, it's more the torque. The bike is simply too fast to comprehend for a learner, and especially if they've been used to ringing a 250 (hopefully not happening with LAMS) you really can't have a concentration lapse. Common for a learner to crash a big bike entering a corner as they simply had no idea just how quick they had accelerated since the last corner. Even with a 600 it can happen, but you do need to try a little harder. A thou can easily spin up in top gear when doing 80-90kph as well...

[Erelyes]

1. Work out whether the following gizmos are 'must have', or just 'nice to have' - positive neutral finder (kwakas only), gear position indicator, slipper clutch.

2. Browse trademe/youtube and work out which bike looks the coolest, sounds the coolest, comes in a your favourite colour. We can't answer this for you.

Pick the three bikes that best fit this criteria. Go and sit on each (I wouldn't worry about test riding unless you REALLY want to). Go with your gut and hesitate no further, it's just money.

Still can't decide after that? Assign each bike a number, roll a die and go with what the die says (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dice_Man) (no matter what).

[caspernz]

Get the R6. Spend all the extra coin on good rider training courses and protective gear.

Good logic. Going from a 250 to a 600 is a much safer bet than straight to a thou, regardless of what anyone says they've done. :killingme

To OP - Work out what style of bike you want though, that list of yours is a laugh! :rolleyes:

And you may think you're a safe rider, but have you had any actual roadcraft training by a proper instructor? If you haven't, allot a few dollars for some courses to up your skills, and buying a decent 600 or 750 will allow that. :2thumbsup

Oh, and a Busa will always be a bulky bike regardless of what exhausts are on it. I've got a Busa, and while it's a pussycat of a bike when just dawdling along...it's also got an alter ego that isn't so sedate haha :banana:

[rustyrobot]

Some of my mates tell me not to go with European bikes as they are super expensive to maintain, their parts cost too much etc. So I was hoping to get your input if you happen to be the owner of such bike or otherwise.

It's definitely the case that European bikes cost a little more to service and that parts are harder to find in NZ, and therefore likely to be more expensive. Something that I totally overlooked was how much more a large bike would cost in general over a 250. Expect your petrol costs to double, at least. They take a lot more oil when it comes time for a change and the tyres are significantly more expensive AND disappear quicker (depending on the bike and your riding). And make sure you are sitting down when you ask about the cost of insurance, especially if you are under 25.

I'm not by any means trying to put you off, I'm excited for you and your bike shopping (FUN!). Just make sure you calculate these things first before you splash out on the biggest flashest most expensive bike your budget affords.

[pratik8890]

Don't mean to shit in your sandwich but that isn't going to make the busa any less bulky. You should still get one though, I went from a FZR250 to a FZR1000 for 3 weeks and then a busa. They are a loose bike when you want them to be.



Thanks for the advise mate, whats the regular/ time to time cost involved to maintain your Busa?

[pratik8890]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-651822814.htm


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-652458485.htm


sorted


Thanks Mossy but i'm not fan of of zx14, I'll rather have zx10r instead.

[pratik8890]

The power of a 1000cc sports bike is great fun but complete overkill on the road in my opinion. If you want a sports bike, buy a 600. Still capable of travelling far too fast, more than capable of speeds that are way more than most people would ever use and you have to ride it hard to get the same result as a 1000.


Thank you for the reply. Yip thats right but I'm been riding my 250 cc Yamaha since last 3 years and I always wanted to rid e a bigger one but I couldnt cos of teh restrictions but not anymore hence the upgrade.

[pratik8890]

Do yourself a favor and at lest consider the Triumph Speed Triple.

It doesn't have the HP of most of the list but the perfectly placed tourqe makes it more useable in everyday conditions.

The only other bike on the list I've actually ridden is the R1 from about 02.

I got off it thinking I want one,,but I'm gonn'a die,,,but I still wouldn't mind one.

The Triumph I got off thinking I want I want I want,and I still want.

In fact there's a bloody good chance a Speedy will be my next bike.



Thank you for the feedback. I think Triumph speed triple are mean bikes but i'm more into Sportsbike and they're more like a street ones and I've always been a fan of R1, they're wicked both on tracks on on road. I'm looking for a decent on on trademewhich will be 2008 + model but cant find the right one at this stage.

[pratik8890]

You have listed so many widely varied options, you clearly don't actually know what you want or need. Test a few, decide on a particular platform, then go looking.


For a Busa!!!!!!!!!!!:yes:


Yip but they are the one I like the most and I've always been into sportsbike ever since I was a kid so they appeal a lot to me. And yes you are right so I will be doing some test rides oce I come across the right bike for sale on trademe and Yes Busa is the Boss!!!

[pratik8890]

This is soon to be a collectors item. Keep it stock and you should get a big pay out from it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-652278949.htm

Could be worth a bid. Chuck 7.5k on it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-653432565.htm


I've actually come across this 08' model on Trademe which comes in Orange and Black which is my fav color of them and the asking price is 12.5 k and the bike has done 27k. its also in excellent condition so yeah I'll just wait for sometime before I can negotiate about the price.

P.S- The only thing i dont like on them is the big bulky silence but this ones comes with Yoshmira and they look alright on them.

[pratik8890]

[QUOTE=tigertim20;1130629780]since everyone else has lready told you youll die, Ill take the other path. if youve decided what you want, youre going to do it anyway, you arent 5 years fuckin old, im sure you can make your own decisions.
The R1's are great, imo the 04-06 were the best looking, I have an 08 and it's insane!!, but Id probably tell you out of the whole lot, to go buy a cross plane, I think the '12 R1 had all the extra goodies like TC and shit, if you have the coin, thats where Id spend it. I wanted one, but couldnt quite afford it so settled on the 08.
The R6's arent a terrible bike, but they LOVE to be revved - great fun in the hnds of a confident rider in the right place like a track:Police::bleh:

The ZX10, the 05 is an awesome bike, but has a reputation as being a real handful, so approach with caution, the slightly later 07~ or so with the undertails were a little more watered down and might be your style, but I personally think they look a bit clunky and heavy - Im not saying they ARE, just they look like it. since all your options have loads of power, It's not unreasonable to have what looks the prettiest as a factor in your decision!

for me, the pick of the duc's would be the 848, personal preference only.

dont know much about the MV's so Ill leave that for some one who is familiar with them.

the RC8 is a nice bike, I have a couple friends who own them, and they love them. a nice bike but not my cup of tea.

If you want to know what I would buy from that list, it would be the 12 R1, followed shortly after by any of the other crossplane models (09+) but most on that list are pretty damned equal so you might need to whittle your list down to 3-4 models, then go test riding. "







Thank you for +veness, Yeah If dont mind Yamaha R1 and I think they're great bike. So If I end up buying one then it'll have to be atleast between 06' to 12' model.

And Ducati 848 is like the best looking bike from the lot so yeah I dont mind getting one but i'm fussy about th colro and it has to be in red. I've been keeping an eye out for them on tradme and the cheapest one I saw went for 12.5 k through an auction and that was the highest bid so yeah I'm just waiting for the price to fall around 10k so i can buy it and have the rest of teh dosh put towards its maintenance etc.

I'd really like to know whats the cost involved in maintaining them ( how often does the biek require to change the chain and sprockets, oil and filter and any other stuff thats needs doing ) Would like to know all of these details so that I can have a seprate budget per anum to maintain it.


Yeah Ktm RC8 looks mean but I've heard they're suit more on a track then the road so yeah I've go some mixed view on them but hey if someone is selling them cheap the I'm happy to give them a shot and find it out for my self.

I've read some good stuff about Mv Agusta F4 750cc and 1000cc but my only concern is the cost invloved in maintaining them but if its close to maintaining a Japanese bike then I have no problem buying one .

[pratik8890]

Heres a revolutionary idea - how about sorting out what bike you really would like then researching it. Buy the one YOU like.



Thank you for the reply, Yes i've been doing it since last 3 years. Hence I got custom searches/ favorites on trademe where I can see all of these bikes as they come online for sale. Beside this I have been talking to my mates who ride some of them, I also watch a lot of stuff online( mcn, motorcylce.com channels on Youtube) , also do a lot of research on Bike forums from states etc but I thought it'll be good to get some advise from the local lads as you guys knows these bike and our roads. Therefore I started this thread and the pointers guve by you all so far has been really valuable.

[pratik8890]

I think you should go for a Busa...since your legs are so short....:rolleyes:

Personally I think you should spend the money on better gear, then get a better bike. Are you still wearing fingerless gloves? If so maybe you should switch to a Harley where they won't look out of place :cool:


Seriously though, pick one from the list that appeals to you most. Then go and check it out and see if it really floats your boat. If you aren't in love with it, try the next model. All people can give their opinions on the bikes they've ridden and owned, but they aren't you. Their stature, build, skill level, experience, life stage and what they want out of the bike will all influence their decision.



You are right Si, I shall act upon this but thought of doing lil bit of local research first before doing the upgrade. And yes I've got proper hand gloves now, they were really comfy when I did my big trip to Auckland and also got some mean Caterpillar shoes from the UK which are solid on the bike. Hope to catchup with you soon and then go for a ride.

[pratik8890]

Have a go on a either a new zx6r or and 05-06 one, they are 636cc which doesnt sound like much but makes a decent difference to the low and mid range torque. Same goes for a 675 daytona.

I think litre sport are over kill and have never regretted buying a super sport bike



I came across this mint ZX6r on trademe listed by Red Baron who are wantin 11k for it and its seems to be a nice bike but the only thig I dont like about it is the exhaust, I prefer to have the exhaust at the back of the seat :) and Daytona 675 is a great bike but for some reason I'm not a big fan of them.

[pratik8890]

For the ZX10R, the 04-05 was the first model and a handful. The 06-07 (wheelbarrow) was much easier to ride, sat further into the bike etc. Also had a steering damper standard, and while not brilliant, the 04 didn't have one standard (well advised to fit one if one hasn't been already fitted)


For me at least, it's more the torque. The bike is simply too fast to comprehend for a learner, and especially if they've been used to ringing a 250 (hopefully not happening with LAMS) you really can't have a concentration lapse. Common for a learner to crash a big bike entering a corner as they simply had no idea just how quick they had accelerated since the last corner. Even with a 600 it can happen, but you do need to try a little harder. A thou can easily spin up in top gear when doing 80-90kph as well...



Thank you for your thoughts , I really appreciate it.

[pratik8890]

1. Work out whether the following gizmos are 'must have', or just 'nice to have' - positive neutral finder (kwakas only), gear position indicator, slipper clutch.

2. Browse trademe/youtube and work out which bike looks the coolest, sounds the coolest, comes in a your favourite colour. We can't answer this for you.

Pick the three bikes that best fit this criteria. Go and sit on each (I wouldn't worry about test riding unless you REALLY want to). Go with your gut and hesitate no further, it's just money.

Still can't decide after that? Assign each bike a number, roll a die and go with what the die says (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dice_Man) (no matter what).




Thank you for the post, yes most of teh bike in my list are cool, some of them comes with fav color on tradme occasionally and some of them have mean exhaust also but I just wanted to get some of the pointers from you guys so I posted this and to be honest it has paid off by all the responses so far. And yes I shall roll the dice after picking my top three :)

[pratik8890]

Good logic. Going from a 250 to a 600 is a much safer bet than straight to a thou, regardless of what anyone says they've done. :killingme

To OP - Work out what style of bike you want though, that list of yours is a laugh! :rolleyes:

And you may think you're a safe rider, but have you had any actual roadcraft training by a proper instructor? If you haven't, allot a few dollars for some courses to up your skills, and buying a decent 600 or 750 will allow that. :2thumbsup

Oh, and a Busa will always be a bulky bike regardless of what exhausts are on it. I've got a Busa, and while it's a pussycat of a bike when just dawdling along...it's also got an alter ego that isn't so sedate haha :banana:



Thank you for the feedback, I can handle both 600cc or 1000 so it'll be either when I upgrade and I've always been into Sportsbike so it'll have to be a Sports style bike. I have ben doing group rides and they help out a lot with learining all the essential road skills and time to time I always got for Taranaki Rider day Training to revise/ learn new skills etc. But I'd still like to do the roadcraft training as recommended by you as it sound to be beneficial ( will sure look up on this )

So what are you timely expenses on mainitning your Busa? Please share with me. Thank you

[pratik8890]

It's definitely the case that European bikes cost a little more to service and that parts are harder to find in NZ, and therefore likely to be more expensive. Something that I totally overlooked was how much more a large bike would cost in general over a 250. Expect your petrol costs to double, at least. They take a lot more oil when it comes time for a change and the tyres are significantly more expensive AND disappear quicker (depending on the bike and your riding). And make sure you are sitting down when you ask about the cost of insurance, especially if you are under 25.

I'm not by any means trying to put you off, I'm excited for you and your bike shopping (FUN!). Just make sure you calculate these things first before you splash out on the biggest flashest most expensive bike your budget affords.



These are some of the great pointers mate, thank you for that. Yes bigger bike will cost more in maintenance, rego etc and I'm not sure about Motorbike insurance yet cos I never had one but I'd like to get one when I get a bigger bike. Please let me know if you know of any good insurance company for Motorbikes? Thank you

[Grashopper]

Please let me know if you know of any good insurance company for Motorbikes? Thank you

Have a look here: http://www.kiwibike.co.nz/ (Yes, without the 'r') There are quite a few people here that highly recommend them, me included. There are loads of insurance threads with more information around here, too...

[mossy1200]

Yes nigger bike will cost more.

Im not sure you can say that.

Maybe stretched out bling bike would be better.

[rustyrobot]

Please let me know if you know of any good insurance company for Motorbikes?

I would most definitely recommend that you go through Kiwibike insurance brokers. I had a 'mechanical failure' on my bike, which was worth about $7500, and majority owned by the bank. The insurance company weren't going to pay out (as they didn't initially see it as an accident), and Dave at Kiwibike gave me great advice and took care of the process. In the end they paid out - if they hadn't I would have had no bike and still owed the bank $7000.
www.kiwibike.co.nz

If you are getting a loan for the bike you will be required to get insurance. Mine costs about $600 a year and I'm in my 30s. I spoke to someone last week who was paying $1000/yr on their (admittedly brand new) <400cc bike.

From memory the Ducatis need a yearly service that cost in the range of $1200 (valve clearances), but I might have the frequency wrong. Sure someone here can clarify. I was lusting after a Duc and that was ultimately the thing that put me off. My Aprilia is about half that, but it still smarts. Talking of which - have you considered an RSV? :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-654811643.htm

[nzmikey]

I know of a 2002 R6 that is for sale with 21,xxxkm on the clock ....

[pratik8890]

Have a look here: http://www.kiwibike.co.nz/ (Yes, without the 'r') There are quite a few people here that highly recommend them, me included. There are loads of insurance threads with more information around here, too...


Thank you for the feedback. They seems to a good provider with great customer service, will definitely go with them after I upgrade.

[pratik8890]

Im not sure you can say that.

Maybe stretched out bling bike would be better.



Haha great spotting there Mossy.

[pratik8890]

I know of a 2002 R6 that is for sale with 21,xxxkm on the clock ....

Hi Mikey, Thanks for the reply but I want a newer model bike , so 06' + model of R6 is what I'm after.

[pratik8890]

I would most definitely recommend that you go through Kiwibike insurance brokers. I had a 'mechanical failure' on my bike, which was worth about $7500, and majority owned by the bank. The insurance company weren't going to pay out (as they didn't initially see it as an accident), and Dave at Kiwibike gave me great advice and took care of the process. In the end they paid out - if they hadn't I would have had no bike and still owed the bank $7000.
www.kiwibike.co.nz

If you are getting a loan for the bike you will be required to get insurance. Mine costs about $600 a year and I'm in my 30s. I spoke to someone last week who was paying $1000/yr on their (admittedly brand new) <400cc bike.

From memory the Ducatis need a yearly service that cost in the range of $1200 (valve clearances), but I might have the frequency wrong. Sure someone here can clarify. I was lusting after a Duc and that was ultimately the thing that put me off. My Aprilia is about half that, but it still smarts. Talking of which - have you considered an RSV? :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-654811643.htm



Wow! thats cool how they will look after you, good on them. I shall surely sign up with them after the upgrade.


I honestly didnt know the about the expense of valve clearance on Ducati, that's pretty expensive. They seem to be like a luxury to ride :( I hope its not that much but doesnt look like it from what you have said. Yeah I like Aprila Rsv but the only thing I dont like on them is the bulky exhaust. I personally think they spoil the whole show But I think the bike will look much better with small exhaust. I've just looked up and you can get those shorty exhaust and they look good on the bike

I've attached a link below:

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=shorty+exhaust+for+aprilia+rsv&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=VV9sUvTzGIiiiAfxg4HQBQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1088&bih=533#facrc=_&imgrc=8xV2UN0uLwt2YM%3A%3BIw2o_TLsGgqiFM%3Bhttp%25 3A%252F%252Fwww.gravesport.com%252Fimages%252FD%25 2Fgraves-motorsports-aprilia-rsv4-exhaust-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.gravesport.com%252F Graves-Motorsports-Aprilia-RSV4-Exhaust.html%3B1200%3B803



And that listing on trademe is already there on my watch list, I'd still give it shot if the buyer is happy to lower the price for it :)

[Tazz]

I've read some good stuff about Mv Agusta F4 750cc and 1000cc but my only concern is the cost invloved in maintaining them but if its close to maintaining a Japanese bike then I have no problem buying one .

Drooooool I have never seen these bikes, man they are purrrdy! Do it!

[tigertim20]

I'd really like to know whats the cost involved in maintaining them ( how often does the biek require to change the chain and sprockets, oil and filter and any other stuff thats needs doing ) Would like to know all of these details so that I can have a seprate budget per anum to maintain it.


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beside the quote button is another little box you can tick and do multi quotes, just fyi . . .
as for the running costs and servicing, thats going to depend on how hard you ride, and how often you ride etc. I have chewed through a rear tyre (no trackdays) an 2600km on my old R1. I can make them last much longer too though. factor in the cost of things like oil and filter changes every 5000km or so, a can of chain lube lasts ages. a set of chain and sprockets should last you 20,000km+ unless youre doing something wrong. brake pads have a variable life depending on how smoothly you can ride the bike.
bottom line is really that its impossible for us to give you an accurate idea of annual cost for running a bike without knowing all the other details, and knowing how you actually ride.

your major services arent really that bad, especially if you save money by doing things like your own oil, fluid, brake pad changes etc etc, and they dont come around all that often.

assuming you ride 15000km a year, at a guess, allow for a set of tyres $400-600, a couple of oil changes $100-$150, a set of plugs $80, maybe some brake pads $75, and add an extra couple hundred bucks for random shit. then theres your rego, and the cost of replacing things as they wear out like chain and sprockets, rotors etc etc

[pratik8890]

Drooooool I have never seen these bikes, man they are purrrdy! Do it!


Yes they are, the thing i like the most about them is the sound and 4 mini exhaust at the back of the seat..




beside the quote button is another little box you can tick and do multi quotes, just fyi . . .
as for the running costs and servicing, thats going to depend on how hard you ride, and how often you ride etc. I have chewed through a rear tyre (no trackdays) an 2600km on my old R1. I can make them last much longer too though. factor in the cost of things like oil and filter changes every 5000km or so, a can of chain lube lasts ages. a set of chain and sprockets should last you 20,000km+ unless youre doing something wrong. brake pads have a variable life depending on how smoothly you can ride the bike.
bottom line is really that its impossible for us to give you an accurate idea of annual cost for running a bike without knowing all the other details, and knowing how you actually ride.

your major services arent really that bad, especially if you save money by doing things like your own oil, fluid, brake pad changes etc etc, and they dont come around all that often.

assuming you ride 15000km a year, at a guess, allow for a set of tyres $400-600, a couple of oil changes $100-$150, a set of plugs $80, maybe some brake pads $75, and add an extra couple hundred bucks for random shit. then theres your rego, and the cost of replacing things as they wear out like chain and sprockets, rotors etc etc


I will be riding it only during the weekends if the weather is nice so yeah 15,000 km per annum sounds about right and I tend to lower the gear to reduce the speed so I hardly use any brakes unless I have to do a complete stop or when its really required. So I hope to get some extra longevity from the brake pads chain and sprockets etc. And I take your calculation is based on a Japanese bike?

[300weatherby]

Yip but they are the one I like the most and I've always been into sportsbike ever since I was a kid so they appeal a lot to me. And yes you are right so I will be doing some test rides oce I come across the right bike for sale on trademe and Yes Busa is the Boss!!!

The ride style differences between most of the bikes you list is huge, you must be talented indeed, if you can ride a 749 smooth, comfortably and with accuracy, then jump on an R1, then onto an R6, and do the same, generally one platform will work better for any given rider than the others, for anyone normal that is........Just what have you been riding all these years, and just what kind of riding do you do?

[pratik8890]

The ride style differences between most of the bikes you list is huge, you must be talented indeed, if you can ride a 749 smooth, comfortably and with accuracy, then jump on an R1, then onto an R6, and do the same, generally one platform will work better for any given rider than the others, for anyone normal that is........Just what have you been riding all these years, and just what kind of riding do you do?


I agree to what you say, I guess I will have to just find the right bike and evolve with it riding wise. Thank you for your feedback.

[bluninja]

Yes they are, the thing i like the most about them is the sound and 4 mini exhaust at the back of the seat..






I will be riding it only during the weekends if the weather is nice so yeah 15,000 km per annum sounds about right and I tend to lower the gear to reduce the speed so I hardly use any brakes unless I have to do a complete stop or when its really required. So I hope to get some extra longevity from the brake pads chain and sprockets etc. And I take your calculation is based on a Japanese bike?

Well dropping a cog and using engine braking (on a little 250) isn't the best way to go IMHO if you are concerned with servicing cost. Brake pads are cheaper than engines :cool: If you are a fan of engine braking then perhaps you should consider a v twin sports bike.

[pratik8890]

Well dropping a cog and using engine braking (on a little 250) isn't the best way to go IMHO if you are concerned with servicing cost. Brake pads are cheaper than engines :cool: If you are a fan of engine braking then perhaps you should consider a v twin sports bike.


Thank you for this valuable advise, I wasn't aware of this. Will do this from now on. Ta

[Tazz]

Well dropping a cog and using engine braking (on a little 250) isn't the best way to go IMHO if you are concerned with servicing cost. Brake pads are cheaper than engines :cool: If you are a fan of engine braking then perhaps you should consider a v twin sports bike.

Yeah I was thinking the same. Pads and discs are there to be the replaceable parts ;) Should only ever have to worry about rationing them if you're getting brake fade in a tricky section and would like to live lol


I'm just quietly going to mention the MV Agusta F4 again in the hopes of planting an subconscious seed =D

Go on, have another look at those pipes.

MV Agustaaaaa :bleh:

[Road kill]

Take a 2013 Daytona for a ride.

You owe it to yourself to know before spending your money.

[pratik8890]

Take a 2013 Daytona for a ride.

You owe it to yourself to know before spending your money.


Wouldn't Daytona 2013 be expensive? I just wanna spend 12 k max on a decent second hand bike out of my wish list.



Yeah I was thinking the same. Pads and discs are there to be the replaceable parts ;) Should only ever have to worry about rationing them if you're getting brake fade in a tricky section and would like to live lol


I'm just quietly going to mention the MV Agusta F4 again in the hopes of planting an subconscious seed =D

Go on, have another look at those pipes.



MV Agustaaaaa :bleh:




I ve been keeping an eye out on Trademe for 'em but there are hardly any around and the ones that are on trademe are wanting mora than 20k so that price range is out of my league for now but if a decent f4 750 or 1000 comes up in near future then i'll be more than happy to give it a crack.


I came across this listing for a mint f4 1000 and the guy sold it for around 13k and it was a 09' model from memory. I wish I had the dosh that time. Any how I'm sure the right one will come along my way.

[SMOKEU]

Find a budget, then buy the newest bike that you can afford, that also meets all your other requirements. I saw with some bikes you mentioned "2005-2012", the 2005 model will likely cost less than half what a 2012 model of the same bike will cost, so it's a bit hard to give advice without knowing how much you really want to spend.

Don't forget to have another $1000-1500 lying around to bring ALL the servicing up to date (including things like fork oil, brake fluid etc), unless the bike has a recent service history to prove these things have been done.

[pratik8890]

Find a budget, then buy the newest bike that you can afford, that also meets all your other requirements. I saw with some bikes you mentioned "2005-2012", the 2005 model will likely cost less than half what a 2012 model of the same bike will cost, so it's a bit hard to give advice without knowing how much you really want to spend.

Don't forget to have another $1000-1500 lying around to bring ALL the servicing up to date (including things like fork oil, brake fluid etc), unless the bike has a recent service history to prove these things have been done.




Thank you for the very imp advice, I will make sure to have a backup budget for any unkown cost after I buy the bike.

[ducatilover]

Test everything, buy whatever gives you the biggest wood.


Seriously, anything you're allowed to ride.


Early ZX10s occasionally cracked the chassis, so get which ever bike checked out.

[mossy1200]

Thanks Mossy but i'm not fan of of zx14, I'll rather have zx10r instead.

Jedi Knight you are not then Pratik.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=651822814 The dark side is still taunting you.

[300weatherby]

Jedi Knight you are not then Pratik.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=651822814 The dark side is still taunting you.

Will not achieve the more worthy title of Road Warrior mounted on the legendary HAYABUSA either:violin:

[Mongolian]

Seems to be some pretty sound advise here, not many people saying the usual don't buy a 1000cc sports bike because you will kill your self etc etc.

Like most people have said get which ever one feels good and looks good to you.

When i bought my ZX i was looking at bikes similar to you, my personal preference was for something Japanese, either a cbr, zx, gsxr or r1. I ended up going with the zx as i got a really good deal on it and it felt nice for me.
I love my zx and don't think im gonna part with it any time soon, it is relatively agressive, but tbh if your looking at something like a 1000cc bike you want it to be aggressive.
That being said its perfectly fine in traffic or sitting at 100k's and is pretty comfortable on long trips (aslong as you stop every few hundred k's for gas and a coffee)

FYI i also went from a 250 to 1000 and did not have any issues.
Although you may learn more on a smaller bike you will still be fine on the larger one, just have to decide for yourself I think.

[pratik8890]

Jedi Knight you are not then Pratik.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=651822814 The dark side is still taunting you.


I'd rather go with Hayabusa If I had to choose between zx14 and Busa :)



Will not achieve the more worthy title of Road Warrior mounted on the legendary HAYABUSA either:violin:



There's a mint one on Trademe atm but I'm few bucks short for it so if it's still around for next few weeks then I'd be able to save enough and give it a go..




Seems to be some pretty sound advise here, not many people saying the usual don't buy a 1000cc sports bike because you will kill your self etc etc.

Like most people have said get which ever one feels good and looks good to you.

When i bought my ZX i was looking at bikes similar to you, my personal preference was for something Japanese, either a cbr, zx, gsxr or r1. I ended up going with the zx as i got a really good deal on it and it felt nice for me.
I love my zx and don't think im gonna part with it any time soon, it is relatively agressive, but tbh if your looking at something like a 1000cc bike you want it to be aggressive.
That being said its perfectly fine in traffic or sitting at 100k's and is pretty comfortable on long trips (aslong as you stop every few hundred k's for gas and a coffee)

FYI i also went from a 250 to 1000 and did not have any issues.
Although you may learn more on a smaller bike you will still be fine on the larger one, just have to decide for yourself I think.


Thank you bro, I know some of my work mates with whom I ride also said the same thing about riding a bigger bike but then one of the them gave his R1 to me and I nailed it so the other one offered me right after it and thats how I got into riding bigger motortbikes and now the time is ripe so I shall buy one for my self and enjoy the riding, they can be agreesive if you wanted them to. You are always in control unless you are drunked to get carried away but for me I dont drink just that aint gonna happen. BTW thank you for your valuable advice, really appreciate your support.

[EJK]

If you have the money to maintain the bike, sure go for it. Before I got mine no one really warned me of the cost of owning a super bike.

Remember with a decent tyre a litre bike eats them for breakfast ($350+ for a sticky rear tyre which you WILL need for a bike delivering 160+hp at the wheel), insurance cost (full insurance depends but generally around $1,200 annually for a sensible rider living in a quiet neighbourhood), premium registration cost ($590+), fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY), ticket fines if you get caught, service and maintenance (topping over $1k for the big service) to name a few. With great power comes great responsibility.

Other superbike riders, please feel free to contribute to the list.

[baffa]

Another vote for a daytona.

I was actually thinking that was going to be my next bike, but was worried when I finally got around to giving one a hoon itd be too small to be comfortable.

Ended up falling in love with a new gen blade. I'd still like a daytona, but Ive kinda ruined it for myself now.

[ducatilover]

There's a mint one on Trademe atm but I'm few bucks short for it so if it's still around for next few weeks then I'd be able to save enough and give it a go..


Tried riding one? Bloody mind bending things them, I imagine the 14R is much the same too. I couldn't live with a 'Busa (aside from the fact that they're fucking fat and ugly as sin), I haven't got enough self control, far, far too easy to go intant-dead speeds. Far too easy to enter corners too fast.

Plus they're fucking ugly.

Just test ride everything, even 600s, or twins. Big twins are a good laugh

[Gremlin]

Other superbike riders, please feel free to contribute to the list.
Used race tyre while cheaper upfront cost exactly the same as a new rear tyre as it lasted 1500km. Depends how you ride I guess, but strictly speaking, by 1500km it was a slick and probably shouldn't have gone past 1000km. You're lucky if you're fined, as the bikes will easily get you into walking territory if you don't have self control.


fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY)
Get a car that drinks more. ;) Can't really get below 11L/100km in my V6 with around town running (make that sitting in traffic actually).

[300weatherby]

Tried riding one? Bloody mind bending things them, I imagine the 14R is much the same too. I couldn't live with a 'Busa (aside from the fact that they're fucking fat and ugly as sin), I haven't got enough self control, far, far too easy to go intant-dead speeds. Far too easy to enter corners too fast.

Plus they're fucking ugly.

Just test ride everything, even 600s, or twins. Big twins are a good laugh

Not really sure how a Busa would "bend" your mind? Contrary to popular opinion, The Busa is not some fire breathing monster that will drag you straight over the nearest bank, very few people are up to exploring where the Busa does go ballistic because you need to be up in the rev range to wake it up, they are actually quite docile- you, decide how fast you arrive at a corner, not the bike. Mine do what I tell them to....... Actually a much better choice for an inexperienced rider than a GSXR1000 or R1 or ZX10 ect.

[300weatherby]

If you have the money to maintain the bike, sure go for it. Before I got mine no one really warned me of the cost of owning a super bike.

Remember with a decent tyre a litre bike eats them for breakfast ($350+ for a sticky rear tyre which you WILL need for a bike delivering 160+hp at the wheel), insurance cost (full insurance depends but generally around $1,200 annually for a sensible rider living in a quiet neighbourhood), premium registration cost ($590+), fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY), ticket fines if you get caught, service and maintenance (topping over $1k for the big service) to name a few. With great power comes great responsibility.

Other superbike riders, please feel free to contribute to the list.

Worth considering this guy is not experienced enough to be eating rears, if he starts trying that hard, it won't be for long.........
Who does your insurance!!!!!?, that level of premium would make youe eyes water for sure!
Tickets? get a radar detector and practice braking (which should be practiced regardless anyway!)
Most servicing you should learn to do yourself, save money and learn, double win.

[ducatilover]

Not really sure how a Busa would "bend" your mind? Contrary to popular opinion, The Busa is not some fire breathing monster that will drag you straight over the nearest bank, very few people are up to exploring where the Busa does go ballistic because you need to be up in the rev range to wake it up, they are actually quite docile- you, decide how fast you arrive at a corner, not the bike. Mine do what I tell them to....... Actually a much better choice for an inexperienced rider than a GSXR1000 or R1 or ZX10 ect.

Who the fuck buys a Busa and doesn't open it up? They pile on speed incredibly easily without trying.
Yes, they are docile, but you'll still pile on speed faster than one expects. They don't have the greatest sensation of speed, 160 doesn't feel exciting in the least.

[mossy1200]

Who the fuck buys a 14r and doesn't open it up?, 160 doesn't feel exciting then you shift it into 2nd.

That's a lot better.

[haydes55]

Shit I'm paying under $500/annum for full insurance on my Z1000... And I'm 22.

Go with protecta insurance.

Also I vote for a jap bike. Don't do what gremlin did and get a perfect bike... You'll never get the excitement of getting a new bike again haha.



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[EJK]

Worth considering this guy is not experienced enough to be eating rears, if he starts trying that hard, it won't be for long.........
Who does your insurance!!!!!?, that level of premium would make youe eyes water for sure!
Tickets? get a radar detector and practice braking (which should be practiced regardless anyway!)
Most servicing you should learn to do yourself, save money and learn, double win.

I was trying to scare that guy. My first quote from Protecta gave me $1200 for full cover. I rang up Kiwibike and got me down to nearly $800 per annum.
Servicing? What's that? I thought that's something you pay slaves to do the work! :bleh: (VERY expensive slaves!!)


Shit I'm paying under $500/annum for full insurance on my Z1000... And I'm 22.

Go with protecta insurance.

$500?!?! I guess it's a Z1000 "street" bike vs ZX10R "racing" bike the insurance people have trouble understanding!! Only if they technically understand they are not too different. Also I think I recall reading one of your posts where you got a really nice insurance sales rep!

[ducatilover]

$500?!?! I guess it's a Z1000 "street" bike vs ZX10R "racing" bike the insurance people have trouble understanding!! Only if they technically understand they are not too different.

But they're not technically that similar either :bleh:

[mossy1200]

But they're not technically that similar either :bleh:

MT01 was classed a cruiser and was very cheap to insure.

[Ender EnZed]

They don't have the greatest sensation of speed, 160 doesn't feel exciting in the least.

It might not be anymore exciting than a litre bike at constant speed but it's not as frustrating either.

Riding a GSBZXR1000 in any remotely sensible fashion feels like holding the leash of a small puppy that really wants do some exploring - you can easily keep it in check but it feels a bit cruel and you're only waiting until you can let it go.

[pratik8890]

Test everything, buy whatever gives you the biggest wood.


Seriously, anything you're allowed to ride.


Early ZX10s occasionally cracked the chassis, so get which ever bike checked out.


Thank you for your wise words, I shall keep that in mind :)



Another vote for a daytona.

I was actually thinking that was going to be my next bike, but was worried when I finally got around to giving one a hoon itd be too small to be comfortable.

Ended up falling in love with a new gen blade. I'd still like a daytona, but Ive kinda ruined it for myself now.


You never know, I might end up with Daytona 675 :)




If you have the money to maintain the bike, sure go for it. Before I got mine no one really warned me of the cost of owning a super bike.

Remember with a decent tyre a litre bike eats them for breakfast ($350+ for a sticky rear tyre which you WILL need for a bike delivering 160+hp at the wheel), insurance cost (full insurance depends but generally around $1,200 annually for a sensible rider living in a quiet neighbourhood), premium registration cost ($590+), fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY), ticket fines if you get caught, service and maintenance (topping over $1k for the big service) to name a few. With great power comes great responsibility.

Other superbike riders, please feel free to contribute to the list.


Thank you for your advise, I guess Japanese and European will have he following things in common :

($350+ for a sticky rear tyre which you WILL need for a bike delivering 160+hp at the wheel), insurance cost (full insurance depends but generally around $1,200 annually for a sensible rider living in a quiet neighbourhood), premium registration cost ($590+), fuel (drinks as much as my 1.4 litre car. Approx $30 of 95/98 for almost 200kms on a GOOD DAY)

except for the servicing, I guess European will cost more on servicing, please correct me if I'm wrong?




Shit I'm paying under $500/annum for full insurance on my Z1000... And I'm 22.

Go with protecta insurance.

Also I vote for a jap bike. Don't do what gremlin did and get a perfect bike... You'll never get the excitement of getting a new bike again haha.

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Thank you for your input, Hmm I'm more convinced with KiwiBike Insurance as they seems to be a promising one but I'll checkout Protecta also in case they give me a flattering offer which I cannot resist.

[EJK]

except for the servicing, I guess European will cost more on servicing, please correct me if I'm wrong?


Ask Gremlin lol I'm sure he's reading this anyways. He can answer that question for you.

[Gremlin]

except for the servicing, I guess European will cost more on servicing, please correct me if I'm wrong?
Generally, I would say yes (Yes EJ, I was reading :lol:). Specifically, I would say it depends.

Jap bikes are more simple, usually less to go wrong, European bikes generally have more electronics involved. If those go wrong you may as well laugh and cough... That said, the quality of the European bikes is different to the Jap bikes, hard to put your finger on it, but you kinda feel the difference. However, in sportsbikes, I know a certain someone had an MV and got sick of it as it spent more time broken than working. Reckoned it was designed to be looked at rather than ridden like a designer imagined.

Bikes in general, I had a very nice KTM, but after breaking parts that shouldn't really break (rim, sub frame - both twice) I tried another tack. The BMW has actually been excellent, and I reckon I would of broken a jap bike with some of the things I have gotten up to. I think I'd take an S1000RR over the jap equivalent, but then the world would be a boring place if everyone had the same thing.

Oh, and I don't believe jap 1L bikes are all that cheap to service. As they start including the same sort of electronics, their costs will rise too. However, a BMW ABS unit, $4k ish. Suspension replacement front and rear for mine, $4800 +GST, Final drive is $2k ish. We just live in hope they don't break... :laugh:

[imdying]

Find out which ones don't have a slipper clutch, and discard those options. Best toy ever, seriously.

Decide whether ABS is a must have.

Rear tyres have a life of about five to six thousand kms, even just commuting, so factor that in.

Cost of servicing is no big deal, that's just life. I think it is more important to have parts and dealer availability. No matter where you go in New Zealand, getting your GSXR1000 serviced is no hassle. Your F4? I do not know, but if I owned one I'd take it to a specialist or do it myself.

Fuel consumption is generally pretty good on them, they only drink when you're up them, and with so much power you're not really up them that hard that much. They run on 91 just fine so no big deal there for a jap bike. The Euros, I do not know.

I would love an RSV4, but AFAIK you cannot get parts for any Aprilia, locally, in any thing resembling a reasonable time frame, so I've never bothered to even test ride one.

I have a blade for my daily, and you couldn't really ask for an easier bike to ride. The amount it lets you take the piss is obscene. It's about 4 years old now, but everybody who sees it just assumes it's new (I keep it clean), so although you pay a few more bucks, it's probably worth it for the build quality. Go look at some 4 year old GSXRs for comparison. The GSXR is probably 2-4k less in price though, so you'll have to decide what is most important for you. I like the build quality on the later R1s too, very nice.

Kawasakis are sluts and should be treated as such. They always sound mean as too :D

I assume the other IL4s are the same as the blade, very cheap to service. I also assume they have similar running costs, and that means tyres/chains/brake pads.

If I never left the track, I'd probably go for a new ZX6R, or a 675, or an 848. On the road, it's a thou any day of the week.


Once you make a few of those decisions, that'll pare the field back some. Get a slipper clutch though, they're too much fun.

[imdying]

Did I mention get something with a slipper clutch? :whistle:

[EJK]

Did I mention get something with a slipper clutch? :whistle:

Please do tell more. What fun stuffs can you do with a slipper clutch'ed bike?

[imdying]

Take the piss royally with the left foot :D Charging into a bend and just dumping gears while you smear the front tyre into the tarmac never ever gets old :banana:

God I remember the shit heaps I rode in my youth... they'd happily lock the rear and snake around on you if you were slack about your clutch control. Now you just go for gold like the motogp guys do, brilliant!

[pratik8890]

Generally, I would say yes (Yes EJ, I was reading :lol:). Specifically, I would say it depends.

Jap bikes are more simple, usually less to go wrong, European bikes generally have more electronics involved. If those go wrong you may as well laugh and cough... That said, the quality of the European bikes is different to the Jap bikes, hard to put your finger on it, but you kinda feel the difference. However, in sportsbikes, I know a certain someone had an MV and got sick of it as it spent more time broken than working. Reckoned it was designed to be looked at rather than ridden like a designer imagined.

Bikes in general, I had a very nice KTM, but after breaking parts that shouldn't really break (rim, sub frame - both twice) I tried another tack. The BMW has actually been excellent, and I reckon I would of broken a jap bike with some of the things I have gotten up to. I think I'd take an S1000RR over the jap equivalent, but then the world would be a boring place if everyone had the same thing.

Oh, and I don't believe jap 1L bikes are all that cheap to service. As they start including the same sort of electronics, their costs will rise too. However, a BMW ABS unit, $4k ish. Suspension replacement front and rear for mine, $4800 +GST, Final drive is $2k ish. We just live in hope they don't break... :laugh:

Thank you for your response. Wow Japanese Bike seems to have low cost for the maintenance, how ever Italian ones seems to be quite the contrary!



Find out which ones don't have a slipper clutch, and discard those options. Best toy ever, seriously.

Decide whether ABS is a must have.

Rear tyres have a life of about five to six thousand kms, even just commuting, so factor that in.

Cost of servicing is no big deal, that's just life. I think it is more important to have parts and dealer availability. No matter where you go in New Zealand, getting your GSXR1000 serviced is no hassle. Your F4? I do not know, but if I owned one I'd take it to a specialist or do it myself.

Fuel consumption is generally pretty good on them, they only drink when you're up them, and with so much power you're not really up them that hard that much. They run on 91 just fine so no big deal there for a jap bike. The Euros, I do not know.

I would love an RSV4, but AFAIK you cannot get parts for any Aprilia, locally, in any thing resembling a reasonable time frame, so I've never bothered to even test ride one.

I have a blade for my daily, and you couldn't really ask for an easier bike to ride. The amount it lets you take the piss is obscene. It's about 4 years old now, but everybody who sees it just assumes it's new (I keep it clean), so although you pay a few more bucks, it's probably worth it for the build quality. Go look at some 4 year old GSXRs for comparison. The GSXR is probably 2-4k less in price though, so you'll have to decide what is most important for you. I like the build quality on the later R1s too, very nice.

Kawasakis are sluts and should be treated as such. They always sound mean as too :D

I assume the other IL4s are the same as the blade, very cheap to service. I also assume they have similar running costs, and that means tyres/chains/brake pads.

If I never left the track, I'd probably go for a new ZX6R, or a 675, or an 848. On the road, it's a thou any day of the week.


Once you make a few of those decisions, that'll pare the field back some. Get a slipper clutch though, they're too much fun.

I take you have CBR firebload? What year is it? I'm talking to this guy who wants to sell his cbr 1000 rr 2005 model for around 8 K so any advise about the model would be really appreciated :) I'm also a fan of Kawasaki zx10 r and I really like em in Orange color and owning a 848 would be mint also.


Take the piss royally with the left foot :D Charging into a bend and just dumping gears while you smear the front tyre into the tarmac never ever gets old :banana:

God I remember the shit heaps I rode in my youth... they'd happily lock the rear and snake around on you if you were slack about your clutch control. Now you just go for gold like the motogp guys do, brilliant!


I just did some research on sipper clutch and they are quite a thing. I guess most of the newer super sports bike will have it in built?

[imdying]

It's an 09, no ABS, just a bike bike. Some do, some don't, worth researching though.

Do consider buying a track bike and a trailer instead. The first thing you'll discover about a thou is they're not as much fun on the road as they could be... these days the cops can take your ride for having too much fun... and first gear is knocking on 160km/hr... not a good combination :lol: Can't go pass the ease of use though... but if you really want to get up the bike constantly, you are much better off on the track. No registration, no wof, no fines... could save you the equivalent of your yearly track pass!

[baffa]

I have an 07 blade, the year before they came with a slipper. I can see why it would be useful, but there is something quite satisfying about rev matching.

Thous arent designed with pootling around in mind, but the blades do a remarkable job of commuting and buzzing around town.
The only problem I have is it runs really hot in slow traffic, but this is the price you pay.

I'd suggest getting a 600cc or daytona, it will be more than enough to have fun with, once you go to a thou, most other things just feel boring D=

[imdying]

True true... I blip subconciously now, probably wouldn't have that ability if the shitters I grew up with had slipper clutches... it's a fair point.

[300weatherby]

I have an 07 blade, the year before they came with a slipper. I can see why it would be useful, but there is something quite satisfying about rev matching.

Thous arent designed with pootling around in mind, but the blades do a remarkable job of commuting and buzzing around town.
The only problem I have is it runs really hot in slow traffic, but this is the price you pay.

I'd suggest getting a 600cc or daytona, it will be more than enough to have fun with, once you go to a thou, most other things just feel boring D=

Change out your thermostat, sorted.

There is nothing above 250 that can actually be ridden to it's full potential anywhere in the real world, only on the track can you explore your own, and the bikes ability. For the real world, if you are specifically sportbike focused, a 675D has torque that makes it less work everywhere compared to any of the ujm600's.

[pratik8890]

It's an 09, no ABS, just a bike bike. Some do, some don't, worth researching though.

Do consider buying a track bike and a trailer instead. The first thing you'll discover about a thou is they're not as much fun on the road as they could be... these days the cops can take your ride for having too much fun... and first gear is knocking on 160km/hr... not a good combination :lol: Can't go pass the ease of use though... but if you really want to get up the bike constantly, you are much better off on the track. No registration, no wof, no fines... could save you the equivalent of your yearly track pass!

Yes you are right but I just want it to ride it on road first to get the experience and then buy a track bike for the real fun. And Cops are just jealous cos they cant beat us in their fancy little Holdens but I tend to stick to road rules 95% of the time ( 100 - 110 k/oh max on an open road ) unless I'm riding in a group where I tend to speed occasionally, i,e endangering any one on the road ( in zero traffic ).



I have an 07 blade, the year before they came with a slipper. I can see why it would be useful, but there is something quite satisfying about rev matching.

Thous arent designed with pootling around in mind, but the blades do a remarkable job of commuting and buzzing around town.
The only problem I have is it runs really hot in slow traffic, but this is the price you pay.

I'd suggest getting a 600cc or daytona, it will be more than enough to have fun with, once you go to a thou, most other things just feel boring D=

Yip i'll try 600 first if not go with thous and blade seems be an all rounder bike..I hope the rest the bigger bikes are also like blad when its comes to commuting around town or riding on an open road or long trips ???Any ideas about the comfort these bikes provide on bigger trips? ( sore back or any other discomfort ) Thank you

[pratik8890]

Hey Lads, So I've come across this beautiful Mv Agusta F4 750 ( 2000 model ) on trademe and I'm have been talking to the seller who is a mechanic by himself so the Bike has regulalry serviced, well maintained as you can see from the pictures but my only concern is its a 2000 model and it has done 47,000 kms so do you all reckon it will have a good resale value when I sell the bike ( after 3 years or so ) I've also done some research on it and they are not like any other Italian bikes like Ducatis ( no Desmo valves or betlts etc. ) and they're similar to any Japanese inline 4 so they are easy to maintain than their other Italian counterparts. The seller is a real Bike enthusiastic and the only reason he is selling the Bike is because he's got his 2nd baby on the way so he's also happy to show/teach me how some of the basic tuning on the bike can be performed ( oil change, cleaning air filter, changing rear tires and re greasing the rear wheel bearing right after it and so on ) So thats the other reason I'm keen to have a bike like this. So its my humblest request if you all could give me your advise on the re sale vale of the Bike. Thanking you all in advance:

I'm putting the link below on for the bike which is currently listed on Trademe:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=656654252


There's also another listing on Trademe for a Suzuki GSXR 600 2007 model which has done 30,000 kms and the seller is wanting 10 k for it, I think its more than the market value for the bike. SO could you all please have a look at the link below for its listing on trademe and tell me if what he is asking is legit? Thank you again.



http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=563301525

[Gremlin]

You're on the wrong track. You shouldn't be buying a bike thinking of it's resale value in x years... :eek:

[Tazz]

Good man! I was wondering if you were looking into that one. Seems to be everything you were after in a bike and the ease of servicing re engine design is a nice bonus.
Make sure you double check everything he says though, to be sure to be sure. Not every mechanic is a GOOD mechanic XD

If I had to take a punt I think the resale on the Agusta would be better than most, but I haven't been watching the bike market for long and it probably depends a lot on how many KMs you put on it? In 3 years time it could be at 60,000 or 100,000?

Perhaps one other cost to check would be if there are insane insurance premiums on them or not.


You're on the wrong track. You shouldn't be buying a bike thinking of it's resale value in x years... :eek:

Yeah, in an ideal world. I bought my CBR with it in mind that I can more than likely break even on purchase price when I upgrade.

[haydes55]

You're on the wrong track. You shouldn't be buying a bike thinking of it's resale value in x years... :eek:





Yup. You should look at how much you can insure it for then get full cover.

Those MVs look the goods though. And don't worry about changing your own tires etc. Let a mechanic do that. Do your own oil and filters sure. But trust a pro to do a better job and cause you less damage to your wheel (presuming you fuck it up).

[nodrog]

.... he's also happy to show/teach me how some of the basic tuning on the bike can be performed....

LOL ROFFLE PSML BHFM EMOF!!! that's fukin hilarious, considering he is probably still riding around with the number plate bracket nearly falling off.

Buy the jappa.

[tigertim20]

You're on the wrong track. You shouldn't be buying a bike thinking of it's resale value in x years... :eek:

what he said ^^^
besides, there is no way to know its value in 3 years because theres no way to know its condition or mileage then. forget about resale, if you really like the bike youll keep it for aggggeeeeesss anyway, and if not, youll upgrade again in a year or so.

I was going to say the 600 looks a tad pricey, but it i a dealer so you get that, but you alo get some form of warranty etc too.

[EJK]

Hey, how about I make an offer for my bike. Interested? It's wayyyyy more reliable than the Italians and got MOOOORE power than the advertised 600.

[bucket boy]

LOL ROFFLE PSML BHFM EMOF!!! that's fukin hilarious, considering he is probably still riding around with the number plate bracket nearly falling off.

Buy the mv agusta.

i agree gordon

[SMOKEU]

If you go for that GSXR600, then get rid of that horrible stock exhaust and get a nice aftermarket can ASAP. It doesn't have to be obnoxiously loud, but that stock pipe will sound dreadful.

[Coldrider]

$10K for an Agusta, how much less could it ever be worth, bigger bikes seem to bottom out at $5K, so divided by 3 years say, cheap depreciation compared to a new blade, and no money is lost until you actually sell it.

[SMOKEU]

and no money is lost until you actually sell it.

I'd hate to think what the maintenance would cost on an old Italian bike like that.

[Tazz]

If you go for that GSXR600, then get rid of that horrible stock exhaust and get a nice aftermarket can ASAP. It doesn't have to be obnoxiously loud, but that stock pipe will sound dreadful.

:facepalm: Yet another reason to buy the MV lol

[pratik8890]

You're on the wrong track. You shouldn't be buying a bike thinking of it's resale value in x years... :eek:

I was just doing some research mate so that I can be prepared if I were to sell it in next 3 years:)



Good man! I was wondering if you were looking into that one. Seems to be everything you were after in a bike and the ease of servicing re engine design is a nice bonus.
Make sure you double check everything he says though, to be sure to be sure. Not every mechanic is a GOOD mechanic XD

If I had to take a punt I think the resale on the Agusta would be better than most, but I haven't been watching the bike market for long and it probably depends a lot on how many KMs you put on it? In 3 years time it could be at 60,000 or 100,000?

Perhaps one other cost to check would be if there are insane insurance premiums on them or not.



Yeah, in an ideal world. I bought my CBR with it in mind that I can more than likely break even on purchase price when I upgrade.

Thats a sound advise bud, He has told me almost everything about the bike ( when do the valve clearance need a check, teh impportanc eof thr torque settings on the rear pinch bolts at the time of servicing, when to check the can chain tensioner, about the life span of the current battery on the bike, speak plugs and fuel filetr check etc ) so I trust the guy cos he knows what he's talking about.

And I will surely find out from Kiwibike and Protecta insurances about the full premium for my next Bike. Thank you again for the advise. Cheers



Yup. You should look at how much you can insure it for then get full cover.

Those MVs look the goods though. And don't worry about changing your own tires etc. Let a mechanic do that. Do your own oil and filters sure. But trust a pro to do a better job and cause you less damage to your wheel (presuming you fuck it up).


Sure mate, I done some digging and If i end up buying an MV Agusta then I will have to prolly get it serviced from Red Baron in Tauranga as we dont have any Mv Agusta Specialist in Taranaki and you you reckon the insurance will cover the parts or please tell me what does it cover under the full insurance? Thank you




LOL ROFFLE PSML BHFM EMOF!!! that's fukin hilarious, considering he is probably still riding around with the number plate bracket nearly falling off.

Buy the jappa.

NA he's seems to be an alright Mechanic or ex mechanic and I'm just going by the flow bro so I might end up with a Jap or an Italian. Thank you for your input.



what he said ^^^
besides, there is no way to know its value in 3 years because theres no way to know its condition or mileage then. forget about resale, if you really like the bike youll keep it for aggggeeeeesss anyway, and if not, youll upgrade again in a year or so.

I was going to say the 600 looks a tad pricey, but it i a dealer so you get that, but you alo get some form of warranty etc too.

Yeah I wish some one hear have had sold their Mv Agusta ( an old model thro ) recently so that I could know how much will be the price drop on the resale etc?

And yes that gsxr 600 loks to be a good buy but its just wee bit pricey and I've offered em with 8k but they didnt bother replying back to me so I'll just wait cos it doesnt look like they getting any bite anyway so lets see if having patience gets me anywhere :)



Hey, how about I make an offer for my bike. Interested? It's wayyyyy more reliable than the Italians and got MOOOORE power than the advertised 600.
So you wanna sell your 2007 ZX10 R mate? Sure I might give it a crack if it falls under my interest so please show me few pics and a wee bit of description of the bike? Many thanks




If you go for that GSXR600, then get rid of that horrible stock exhaust and get a nice aftermarket can ASAP. It doesn't have to be obnoxiously loud, but that stock pipe will sound dreadful.

Yes thats a great advise mate, yip I surely get another exhaust and have the factory as a backup if I end up buying the bike. Thank you



$10K for an Agusta, how much less could it ever be worth, bigger bikes seem to bottom out at $5K, so divided by 3 years say, cheap depreciation compared to a new blade, and no money is lost until you actually sell it. You have a fair point there and I might keep it forever, i.e if I keep it nice and tidy after owning it and I have no doubt in its ageless beauty.


I'd hate to think what the maintenance would cost on an old Italian bike like that. I'd like to know that but the seller reckons it'll be close to maintaining a Japanese bike as Mv Agusta are not like Ducatis when it comes to maintenance but please share your wisdom if you know about these bikes. Thank you


:facepalm: Yet another reason to buy the MV lol

Yeah I know right :)

[ducatilover]

I'd like to know that but the seller reckons it'll be close to maintaining a Japanese bike as Mv Agusta are not like Ducatis when it comes to maintenance but please share your wisdom if you know about these bikes. Thank you



Yeah I know right :)

There are MV specific forums out there for you to look at. The F4s are delicate bikes, especially if it's a 5V head. They shit swing arm hubs. They shit electrics. They shit radiator mounts. They leak. They look and sound superb. They're hard to ride properly. They're no faster than a decent 600.

They're pretty, that's it.

[nodrog]

........


NA he's seems to be an alright Mechanic or ex mechanic .....


......

This is Roffling hiliariious!!!! Maybe you should ask him what he is. I know him, he wouldn't know the difference between a lefthand and righthand screwdriver.

[bucket boy]

There are MV specific forums out there for you to look at. The F4s are delicate bikes, especially if it's a 5V head. They shit swing arm hubs. They shit electrics. They shit radiator mounts. They leak. They look and sound superb. They're hard to ride properly. They're no faster than a decent 600.

They're pretty, that's it.

its not a 5v head,hubs only shit out if not maintained properly as the owner allready knows.Never heard about shit electrics and radiator tends do be only on the 1000cc and easy to overcome that worry as you can get a bracket that supports the left side of radiator so it wont viabrate and crack.But your write they look and sound superd

[BigAl]

its not a 5v head,hubs only shit out if not maintained properly as the owner allready knows.Never heard about shit electrics and radiator tends do be only on the 1000cc and easy to overcome that worry as you can get a bracket that supports the left side of radiator so it wont viabrate and crack.But your write they look and sound superd

Hmmmm, own an MV 750 for sale perchance?

[pratik8890]

This is Roffling hiliariious!!!! Maybe you should ask him what he is. I know him, he wouldn't know the difference between a lefthand and righthand screwdriver.



He sounded alright but I suppose you know him better :)

[pratik8890]

Hey Guys what are your thoughts on 2005 CBRR 1000?

There's one advertised on trademe and I'm just negotiating with the seller, bellow is the link :

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=627958653

I'm also attaching few screenshots that he has sent me by an email.

Please share your experiences and recommendations and any other information about the bike. Many thanks

P.S- There are few minor scratches on the right hand fairing and thats about it, the bike seems to be in good condition otherwise.

[bluninja]

Well it's a Honda and Hondas are ghey....so a CBR 1000 and bodybuilding; people may get the wrong idea about you :innocent:

[mossy1200]

Nice bike. Idd say your wanting it for 7k?

[pratik8890]

Well it's a Honda and Hondas are ghey....so a CBR 1000 and bodybuilding; people may get the wrong idea about you :innocent:

It takes one to know one :P and I guess 20 to 25 % of kb members are Honda owners so I dont think so. Therefore I honestly think your'e jealous cos Honda can kick your a$$ anytime :)


Nice bike. Idd say your wanting it for 7k?


Yip how'd you know that? I guess your mates with the seller?

[mossy1200]

Yip how'd you know that? I guess your mates with the seller?

Nope. Don't know him but it looks to be worth 7 not 8

Dealer would want 8 maybe but they would warranty it and need to turn profits.

[pratik8890]

Nope. Don't know him but it looks to be worth 7 not 8

Dealer would want 8 maybe but they would warranty it and need to turn profits.


This ones private sale and the seller had initially agreed upon selling the bike to some one for 7 K without the hardwire,detector stand and rear cowl but the guyswho wants to buy it keeps delaying in making the payment and picking up the bike as he is on an overseas trip so the seller has got back to me as i was he 2nd person interested in buying the bike. SO now im just trying to negotiate and buy the bike for 7k including the 2 extra items. Hope it goes well. Will keep you guys n the loop. Thank you

[BigAl]

Looks tidy but get it checked out and seller to throw in radar detector as you'll need it.

[imdying]

Looks very clean and tidy. The price is neither here nor there... you'll be able to work out a deal if you want to buy and he wants to sell. Have a look at some 8 year old GSXRs with 40,000km and you'll see where the extra money goes :laugh:

[bluninja]

It takes one to know one :P and I guess 20 to 25 % of kb members are Honda owners so I dont think so. Therefore I honestly think your'e jealous cos Honda can kick your a$$ anytime :)


Sounds like an admission to me...better go buy a Honda then :) 20-25% of KBers are Honda riders...wow that's a lot of ghey kbers. I don't think I got beaten in a race by a Honda ever...so no chance of having my ass kicked by one....their owners were too busy making sure they were looking their best to make the start line.:headbang:

[imdying]

Dude, you're riding a 650... that makes you gay!!! :P

[Tazz]

So no go on the MV? CBR seems like a good second bet. Probably something you'd worry a little less about when you park it in town and the like as well, but definitely doesn't look quite as awesome.

Did you enquire about insurance for the MV? What was the go with that? Expensive? Would have to be about on par with the 1000cc CBR though yeah?


Well it's a Honda and Hondas are ghey....so a CBR 1000 and bodybuilding; people may get the wrong idea about you :innocent:

What's with the homophobia? Just like women, gays have standards, so someone like you will have nothing to worry about (probably from either sex XD) I'm sure.

[imdying]

You can park either in town just the same, insurance is insurance.

[bluninja]

What's with the homophobia? Just like women, gays have standards, so someone like you will have nothing to worry about (probably from either sex XD) I'm sure.

No homophobia at all.......men have standards too...some prefer no to ride Hondas :bleh:

[bluninja]

Dude, you're riding a 650... that makes you gay!!! :P

Crushed :spanking: If I alternate between a 650 and a 1000 will I be bisexual, metrosexual, or just confused about what I like to ride?

[pratik8890]

Looks tidy but get it checked out and seller to throw in radar detector as you'll need it.

Will do but still negotiating with the seller and he's currently overwhelmed by the numbers of offers he has received so he has declined my offer of 7k for now. Thus I will keep watching it and re negotiate with him again in next week or so if the bike is still around.


Looks very clean and tidy. The price is neither here nor there... you'll be able to work out a deal if you want to buy and he wants to sell. Have a look at some 8 year old GSXRs with 40,000km and you'll see where the extra money goes :laugh:

As above and yes your'e right about the extra cost for an 8 year old GSXR..


So no go on the MV? CBR seems like a good second bet. Probably something you'd worry a little less about when you park it in town and the like as well, but definitely doesn't look quite as awesome.

Did you enquire about insurance for the MV? What was the go with that? Expensive? Would have to be about on par with the 1000cc CBR though yeah?



No go on MV as the seller is quite firm on his buy now and I'm not super keen for it cos its a Momoposto model and I really want a Biposto and I still havent had a chance to research about the insurance I could get for one of these bikes so I guess I will do that just before buying the bike ( maybe a week before ) so that I could get the proper quote depending on the year and the model of the Bike.


P.S- the GSXR 600 guy has come back to me with 9 k for it but I will still have to re register the bike etc. So I guess I will have to pass on this one also.

[Coldrider]

Crushed :spanking: If I alternate between a 650 and a 1000 will I be bisexual, metrosexual, or just confused about what I like to ride?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7bUaQ9jOOA
Maybe Tasha can help you decide.

[BuzzardNZ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7bUaQ9jOOA
Maybe Tasha can help you decide.

here's where she actually rides it ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7y-xLJaj0

[imdying]

Yeah, cause that's what we wanna see her ride.

[Tazz]

No homophobia at all.......men have standards too...some prefer no to ride Hondas :bleh:

:laugh::laugh: nice. Guess that could be flipped to say it is really Hondas that have standards too =P



No go on MV as the seller is quite firm on his buy now and I'm not super keen for it cos its a Momoposto model and I really want a Biposto and I still havent had a chance to research about the insurance I could get for one of these bikes so I guess I will do that just before buying the bike ( maybe a week before ) so that I could get the proper quote depending on the year and the model of the Bike.


Fair enough. Going from what I've read it's probably not an ideal 2up bike anyway if that is something you'll be doing a bit.
What kind of figure were you offering him?

Something will pop up dude. Plenty of bikes out there.


You can park either in town just the same, insurance is insurance.

Didn't say you COULDN'T park it in town =P People just like to damage things they're jealous of sometimes, and an MV sticks out. I'd still happily own one though =D
And insurance can be a big issue depending on the age and record of the person, that's all.

[imdying]

I guess, if you're paranoid. Damage, theft, run over by bus, insurance covers all of that.

Remember than an MV only sticks out to motorcyclists, to everybody else it is just another motorcycle. It's not like a Ferrari where it's a universally recognised symbol seen all throughout pop culture.

[Ender EnZed]

here's where she actually rides it ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7y-xLJaj0


Yeah, cause that's what we wanna see her ride.

So how long did you spend looking for the original?

[EJK]

Yes, you've read it correctly. $1 Reserve! Try your luck!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=662716775

[Tazz]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201913112062287&set=gm.335077609965503&type=1&theater

[pratik8890]

Fair enough. Going from what I've read it's probably not an ideal 2up bike anyway if that is something you'll be doing a bit.
What kind of figure were you offering him?

Something will pop up dude. Plenty of bikes out there.

Offered him 9k and i'm in no rush but i feel xmas to january will be a good time to buy one..



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201913112062287&set=gm.335077609965503&type=1&theater

Na I'm not into old models of R1 besides I really dont like the exhaust on the side of a bike.

[pratik8890]

Yes, you've read it correctly. $1 Reserve! Try your luck!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=662716775

Thank you for the head sup but i dont like blue color on them. I prefer either orange or black :)

[pratik8890]

Hey Guys, So I am still negotiating with the owner of the 2005 cbr 1000 rr, I've offered him 7 k earlier but he declined the offer so I have emailed him today and awaiting his reply.: Below's the link

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=627958653

The seller of Suzuki GSX 600R has also come back to me with an offer of 9 k down from 10 k which includes 3 months rego and warrant but my concern is, " Is it worth paying 9K for a 7 year old
bike " ?

below's the link:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=563301525

I've also come across a new listing of Yamaha R1 2007 model in blue color and the guy has a buy now of $8750 and the starting bid of $8 k on trademe. SO you you guys reckon I could offer him with 8K to seal the deal and will it be worth it?

Below's the

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=664462595&permanent=0


Please share your thoughts on this. Thanking you all in advance.

[EJK]

I've also come across a new listing of Yamaha R1 2007 model in blue color and the guy has a buy now of $8750 and the starting bid of $8 k on trademe. SO you you guys reckon I could offer him with 8K to seal the deal and will it be worth it?

Below's the

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=664462595&permanent=0


Please share your thoughts on this. Thanking you all in advance.

If you don't buy that, I will (when my insurance claim cheque comes through).

[imdying]

I know somebody with that model/colour R1... this finish is lovely, as good as the Hondas IMHO, and I would be proud to have one in my stable.

[BigAl]

The r1, cbr and then gsxr would be my order.

8k is probably a little low but who knows?

[pratik8890]

If you don't buy that, I will (when my insurance claim cheque comes through).

What happen to ZX 10 R mate?



I know somebody with that model/colour R1... this finish is lovely, as good as the Hondas IMHO, and I would be proud to have one in my stable.

I've requested him to upload few other pics from the side angle and yes the finish is just perfect



The r1, cbr and then gsxr would be my order.

8k is probably a little low but who knows?

I rate CBR/R1 on the same page with their particular model/year and I honestly dont like the 08 + model of cbr so 2005 is still good imo and gsxr would be the 2nd amongst the three.. Yeah 8 k is the number which came to my mind considering he's has put the starting bid at 8k so i guess that would be his reserve? I have also requested the seller of R1 to upload few other pics where we could see the both the sides of the bike, so just awaiting for him to upload them today. I might offer him more than 8K depending on the background/ service history of the bike. Will keep you guys in loop. Cheers.

[tigertim20]

8k for the r1 wouldnt be bad. even 8750 isnt entirely unreasonable. I have the 08 (same model) in blue and its a fantastic bike. will really come alive with a set of aftermarket pipes and a PCV too.

edited to add:

He says totally stock (aside from the screen he mentions) but it also has a tail tidy, rear indicators removed, and, presumably, n aftermarket integrated tail light. not that thats anything to be concerned about.

[pratik8890]

8k for the r1 wouldnt be bad. even 8750 isnt entirely unreasonable. I have the 08 (same model) in blue and its a fantastic bike. will really come alive with a set of aftermarket pipes and a PCV too.

edited to add:

He says totally stock (aside from the screen he mentions) but it also has a tail tidy, rear indicators removed, and, presumably, n aftermarket integrated tail light. not that thats anything to be concerned about.

Thanks Tim, Yes your'e right about getting the after market exhaust and Power commander 5 ! Could you please tell me how much do PC5 and a decent ( loudest ) exhaust cost for R1 these days? and thank you for pointing out the other stuff also from the listing.

[The Reibz]

Thanks Tim, Yes your'e right about getting the after market exhaust and Power commander 5 ! Could you please tell me how much do PC5 and a decent ( loudest ) exhaust cost for R1 these days? and thank you for pointing out the other stuff also from the listing.

$1700 - $3000+

K&N/BMC/Pipercross - 200
Headers - 800
Muflers - 800
PCV - 400
Dyno - fucks knows but they aint cheap.

Don't bother just getting slipons, they make fuck all power without headers and are cosmetic only. You don't need to do a dyno tune if your are mechanically minded and understand the basic fundamentals of the Dynojet software. You can do your own testing with a data logger like I have done, it just takes a month or so to get the bike to where you want (10.2 at 145mph+ is where i eventually want to be on my set up)

If you want loud just cut the pipe, remove baffle and come see me to get it welded back up.

GET HEADERS AND PCV, WORRY ABOUT MUFFLERS WHEN YOU HAVE THE CASH

[BigAl]

If you come to an arrangement with any of the sellers then I'd try and ride them as they are because you will find that any of the 1000s produce enough power in std form.

How often do you need in excess of 250kph?

[tigertim20]

Thanks Tim, Yes your'e right about getting the after market exhaust and Power commander 5 ! Could you please tell me how much do PC5 and a decent ( loudest ) exhaust cost for R1 these days? and thank you for pointing out the other stuff also from the listing.
depends how far you want to go, you could blow 3k just on some akra parts . . .

the stock bike is blisteringly fast, and doesnt NEED opening up at all.

Easiest way is to go power commander, Y pipe (ditches the heavy restrictive catalytic converter) and pipes if you want. I know a few guys who have put A & R race baffles in theirs, and love them. PCV can be had for around $260 USD. I can PM you a few links if you are really keen.

When I bought my 08 R1 it was bone stock and well under 10k on the clock, so I decided to ride it stock for a few months to feel it out before spending any money on it


If you come to an arrangement with any of the sellers then I'd try and ride them as they are because you will find that any of the 1000s produce enough power in std form.

How often do you need in excess of 250kph?

Ill give you the same response that I give everyone who bangs on about how you dont 'need' the power of a thou . . .
If we used that logic, we'd all be hooning around on SL125's and the like, that manage to do the open road speed limit (just) because, hey, thats all you NEED right? sp no 750s? no 800s? no goldiwngs or ducati monsters, or even GS 500s, or bmw 650's . . .

[Ender EnZed]

Ill give you the same response that I give everyone who bangs on about how you dont 'need' the power of a thou . . .
If we used that logic, we'd all be hooning around on SL125's and the like, that manage to do the open road speed limit (just) because, hey, thats all you NEED right? sp no 750s? no 800s? no goldiwngs or ducati monsters, or even GS 500s, or bmw 650's . . .

I agree that more power is always better and that there are very few things better than a good 180km/h+ powerslide, most things that are probably involve going faster. Having ridden a Hayabusa for more than a year I really can't imagine downgrading to a bike that won't light the rear tyre up at any speed, any gear, on (almost) any surface. This is coming from guy with (as far as I'm aware) just a noisy Chinese slip-on that was there when I bought it. But spending good money on a relatively cheap (in the scheme of things) bike that already has 170hp+ stock just seems kinda silly. If the money is not at all an issue then you'd probably already have an RSV4, S1000RR, or 1198.

In this particular thread we're talking about a dude who currently rides an FZR250. Power Commanders, headers and dyno tuning on his new 1000cc supersports bike are going to be about as useful as homeopathy to him.

[mossy1200]

If the aftermarket goodies are important and your buying second hand then buy one with the bits on it. They will have cost someone 3k but wont make the bike worth 3k extra.

I have spent almost 3k on mine with akra headers, Yoshi cans, pcV with drag maps, ecu flash gear, rearsets, filter and additional ignition maps and it hasn't made my bike worth more maybe just easier to sell and more fun to ride.

[tigertim20]

I agree that more power is always better and that there are very few things better than a good 180km/h+ powerslide, most things that are probably involve going faster. Having ridden a Hayabusa for more than a year I really can't imagine downgrading to a bike that won't light the rear tyre up at any speed, any gear, on (almost) any surface. This is coming from guy with (as far as I'm aware) just a noisy Chinese slip-on that was there when I bought it. Spending good money on a relatively cheap (in the scheme of things) bike that already has 170hp+ stock just seems kinda silly. If the money is not at all an issue then you'd probably already have an RSV4, S1000RR, or 1198.

In this particular thread we're talking about a dude who currently rides an FZR250. Power Commanders, headers and dyno tuning on his new 1000cc supersports bike are going to be about as useful as homeopathy to him.

bit like telling your teenage son not to go fucking the local sluts.
He's going to do it anyway, so you might as well tell him to do it right. if it gets him in trouble it's his own fault - old enough to make a decision, old enough to accept the consequences

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663187241.htm

Forget the rest. I found the best.

Road trip and ride home.

[EJK]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663187241.htm

Forget the rest. I found the best.

Road trip and ride home.

Booking my bus ticket tonight!!!

[mossy1200]

Booking my bus ticket tonight!!!

Can I have the steering damper as a finders fee?

[The Reibz]

If the aftermarket goodies are important and your buying second hand then buy one with the bits on it. They will have cost someone 3k but wont make the bike worth 3k extra.

I have spent almost 3k on mine with akra headers, Yoshi cans, pcV with drag maps, ecu flash gear, rearsets, filter and additional ignition maps and it hasn't made my bike worth more maybe just easier to sell and more fun to ride.

Truer words have never been spoken. I have spent closer to 5k on mine at this time, around 8k of parts left before I finally start installing them. Bike only cost $7900.
Agree with what ender said, power is always a good thing and rolling burnouts at 150 and shit are always awesome but a r1 is a whole different bike to a busa. I reckon this guy should get a 600cc shitter with wof and rego for 2k or something and thrash the living fuck out of it before moving up. Thats what I did, my FZR1000 didn't have enough gears so I upgrade to the bike I have always wanted since I first saw ghostrider.

Your not this guy that talked to me on youtube a few years back about my FZR250 video? Coz bro if you ride like this on a bigger bike you going to get dead real quick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQup-4obR4

[BigAl]

Ill give you the same response that I give everyone who bangs on about how you dont 'need' the power of a thou . . .
If we used that logic, we'd all be hooning around on SL125's and the like, that manage to do the open road speed limit (just) because, hey, thats all you NEED right? sp no 750s? no 800s? no goldiwngs or ducati monsters, or even GS 500s, or bmw 650's . . .

FYI Tim I wasn't "banging on" about not needing a thou, my point is try and ride them as is and then upgrade when ready & as time and $$ permit ;)

[nodrog]

This thread is full of Winners.

[Ender EnZed]

bit like telling your teenage son not to go fucking the local sluts.
He's going to do it anyway, so you might as well tell him to do it right. if it gets him in trouble it's his own fault - old enough to make a decision, old enough to accept the consequences

Fucking the local slut/s is fine. Buying her dinner and flowers afterwards is a waste of money.

[mossy1200]

This thread is full of Winners.

Im happy to be in the top 10.

[The Reibz]

Fucking the local slut/s is fine. Buying her dinner and flowers afterwards is a waste of money.

Sometimes shes the only option a cunts got

[tigertim20]

Fucking the local slut/s is fine. Buying her dinner and flowers afterwards is a waste of money.

by 'doing it properly' I meant take advantage of the slut part, by banging her up the arse and jizzing on her face. remember son, up the bum = no babies.

[Ender EnZed]

by 'doing it properly' I meant take advantage of the slut part, by banging her up the arse and jizzing on her face. remember son, up the bum = no babies.

In my analogy banging her up the arse and jizzing on her face are like hitting stupid speeds on a whim and lighting up the rear tyre. The flowers and dinner are the power commander and headers; unnecessary. You can spend the extra money, but it doesn't change the experience.

[mossy1200]

In my analogy banging her up the arse and jizzing on her face are like hitting stupid speeds on a whim and lighting up the rear tyre. The flowers and dinner are the power commander and headers; unnecessary. You can spend the extra money, but it doesn't change the experience.

Unless you have enough cash to buy twins.

[tigertim20]

Unless you have enough cash to buy twins.

someone gets it!:lol:

[bluninja]

someone gets it!:lol:
Both of them get it ...don't they?

[Ender EnZed]

Unless you have enough cash to buy twins.

I'd like a Superduke 1290. Or an 1198S. Or both.

[Erelyes]

Unless you have enough cash to buy twins.

"I never fucked a ten. Never fucked a ten. But one night, I fucked five two's. And I think that oughta count" - George Carlin

[mossy1200]

"I never fucked a ten. Never fucked a ten. But one night, I fucked five lady boys. And I think that oughta count" - George Carlin

HMM. Not sure that counts

[Erelyes]

HMM. Not sure that counts

Would this?

"I never fucked a ten. Never fucked a ten. But one night, five lady boys fucked me. And I think that oughta count" - George Carlin

[mossy1200]

Would this?

"I never fucked a ten. Never fucked a ten. But one night, five lady boys fucked me. And I think that oughta count" - George Carlin

I think so but im not an adventurous type so cant confirm.

[pratik8890]

$1700 - $3000+

K&N/BMC/Pipercross - 200
Headers - 800
Muflers - 800
PCV - 400
Dyno - fucks knows but they aint cheap.

Don't bother just getting slipons, they make fuck all power without headers and are cosmetic only. You don't need to do a dyno tune if your are mechanically minded and understand the basic fundamentals of the Dynojet software. You can do your own testing with a data logger like I have done, it just takes a month or so to get the bike to where you want (10.2 at 145mph+ is where i eventually want to be on my set up)

If you want loud just cut the pipe, remove baffle and come see me to get it welded back up.

GET HEADERS AND PCV, WORRY ABOUT MUFFLERS WHEN YOU HAVE THE CASH

Thanks for the info, so thats 3k easy incluing the labour. An how often do we have to do a dyno test on these superbikes? I mean it'll vary if youre riding it on a road or racing on a track? Cos I just looked the definitionof dyno test and it looks like it improves the performance of the bike. SO will a regular road bike requires a dyno test at x no. of kms like tyre and chain&sprocket change? Please advise. Ta




If you come to an arrangement with any of the sellers then I'd try and ride them as they are because you will find that any of the 1000s produce enough power in std form.

How often do you need in excess of 250kph?
Yip I'll surely ride it before buying it but i'd be awkwardly funny if I end up going to pickup/buy a bike from new plymouth to Auckland and teh bike turns out to be crap when it comes to riding :PI hope not to get in such situation cos it'll be a major waste of time. Haha



depends how far you want to go, you could blow 3k just on some akra parts . . .

the stock bike is blisteringly fast, and doesnt NEED opening up at all.

Easiest way is to go power commander, Y pipe (ditches the heavy restrictive catalytic converter) and pipes if you want. I know a few guys who have put A & R race baffles in theirs, and love them. PCV can be had for around $260 USD. I can PM you a few links if you are really keen.

When I bought my 08 R1 it was bone stock and well under 10k on the clock, so I decided to ride it stock for a few months to feel it out before spending any money on it

Ill give you the same response that I give everyone who bangs on about how you dont 'need' the power of a thou . . .
If we used that logic, we'd all be hooning around on SL125's and the like, that manage to do the open road speed limit (just) because, hey, thats all you NEED right? sp no 750s? no 800s? no goldiwngs or ducati monsters, or even GS 500s, or bmw 650's . . .

Yip I also stick to the bike in the begining and then add the extras when required/to have more fun. And I shall pm you when I need more info on the race baffles, PCV and you could send me the links then :)


I agree that more power is always better and that there are very few things better than a good 180km/h+ powerslide, most things that are probably involve going faster. Having ridden a Hayabusa for more than a year I really can't imagine downgrading to a bike that won't light the rear tyre up at any speed, any gear, on (almost) any surface. This is coming from guy with (as far as I'm aware) just a noisy Chinese slip-on that was there when I bought it. But spending good money on a relatively cheap (in the scheme of things) bike that already has 170hp+ stock just seems kinda silly. If the money is not at all an issue then you'd probably already have an RSV4, S1000RR, or 1198.

In this particular thread we're talking about a dude who currently rides an FZR250. Power Commanders, headers and dyno tuning on his new 1000cc supersports bike are going to be about as useful as homeopathy to him.
Yip youre absolutely right mate, Spending on cheapo exhaust on a beautiful machine like Hayabusa would be just an insult to the whole make of the bike. Oh I just remembered I still have a 2008 Orange/black hayabusa in my watchlist and the buyer is wanting $12.5k for it which has only done 28kms and comes with Yoshi exhasut! I'm getting tempted again. My 1st hesitation in not buying one is the thought, " is it really a big man/fat man's bike? " No offense to anyone besides we all have fat in us anyway and without it we wont survive :) And the 2nd reason is my age, I've just turned 25 and Im an athletic build and i'm 5foot 10 " tall with the shoes on so I think I might look abnormal with this amazing bike...Please see my profile pic and you shall see where I'm coming from. ANy who I still get the point Ender Enzed.


If the aftermarket goodies are important and your buying second hand then buy one with the bits on it. They will have cost someone 3k but wont make the bike worth 3k extra.

I have spent almost 3k on mine with akra headers, Yoshi cans, pcV with drag maps, ecu flash gear, rearsets, filter and additional ignition maps and it hasn't made my bike worth more maybe just easier to sell and more fun to ride.
Yes Mossy I totally agree with you on this unless its a classic bike so every extra penny you spend on it will increase the vale of the bike :)



bit like telling your teenage son not to go fucking the local sluts.
He's going to do it anyway, so you might as well tell him to do it right. if it gets him in trouble it's his own fault - old enough to make a decision, old enough to accept the consequences

Thats quite a metaphor Tim but I get the morale out of it so its all good. Haha


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663187241.htm

Forget the rest. I found the best.

Road trip and ride home.


You should really be a brand ambassador of Kawasaki Mossy ( first the zx 14r and now zx10 r ) . Haha jokes aside thats a really good bike but I dont like zx 10 in black color to be honest. My favoruite color on them is orange I think they really stand out when theyre in orange color.


Booking my bus ticket tonight!!!

I'll book an air flight mate :P


Can I have the steering damper as a finders fee?

Broker Alert!!!


Fucking the local slut/s is fine. Buying her dinner and flowers afterwards is a waste of money.

Haha thats funny on so many levels but its has the point in it :)

[The Reibz]

Thanks for the info, so thats 3k easy incluing the labour. An how often do we have to do a dyno test on these superbikes? I mean it'll vary if youre riding it on a road or racing on a track? Cos I just looked the definitionof dyno test and it looks like it improves the performance of the bike. SO will a regular road bike requires a dyno test at x no. of kms like tyre and chain&sprocket change? Please advise. Ta

You would only have to get it done once. Any fine changes you can do yourself. A map which works good on the dyno though might not necessarily be the best map for ones street riding.
I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Just get a bike and ride it. Worry about mods 6 - 8 months down the track.

[mossy1200]

You should really be a brand ambassador of Kawasaki Mossy ( first the zx 14r and now zx10 r ) . Haha jokes aside thats a really good bike but I dont like zx 10 in black color to be honest. My favoruite color on them is orange I think they really stand out when theyre in orange color.



Broker Alert!!!





Shame you don't like black as that's had the 3k extras added and only a little more than the others your looking at with its Yoshi extras and so on.

That ohlins set up for my bike is 200usd for the clamps and 500-600 usd for the damper. Cant blame a guy for trying. LOL

[bluninja]

And the 2nd reason is my age, I've just turned 25 and Im an athletic build and i'm 5foot 10 " tall with the shoes on so I think I might look abnormal with this amazing bike...Please see my profile pic and you shall see where I'm coming from. ANy who I still get the point Ender Enzed.




:lol::lol::lol:

5' 10"??? pull the other one...if you are then I'm 6' 2" :banana: ooops forgot the shoes...are they 6 " heels? Maybe you should post the NABBA pic on your profile.

Envy you the bike shopping.

[mossy1200]

:lol::lol::lol:

5' 10"??? pull the other one...if you are then I'm 6' 2" :banana: ooops forgot the shoes...are they 6 " heels? Maybe you should post the NABBA pic on your profile.

Envy you the bike shopping.

Wish I was shorter. My bike would look bigger. Im waiting for the zx22r and hoping it looks large.

[pratik8890]

You would only have to get it done once. Any fine changes you can do yourself. A map which works good on the dyno though might not necessarily be the best map for ones street riding.
I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Just get a bike and ride it. Worry about mods 6 - 8 months down the track.

Ok thanks for the intel, I will keep that in mind :)


Shame you don't like black as that's had the 3k extras added and only a little more than the others your looking at with its Yoshi extras and so on.

That ohlins set up for my bike is 200usd for the clamps and 500-600 usd for the damper. Cant blame a guy for trying. LOL


Yeah I know and thank you for your efforts, i really appreciate it but I dont wanna end being the guy who gets the bike and regret about the color in next 2 months or so. Thus I'm fussy and I really ZX 10 R man, i think they are some of the nicest looking bike ( specially in orange color and under the seat exhaust )

http://motorcycles.oodle.com/view/2006-kawasaki-zx10r/3294444446-mesa-az/

I remember there was a late model of zx 10 r on trademe ( 2004 + tho ) 3 to 4 months ago for 8 k asking price, i wish i had the dosh then cos that bike was a real stunner. Anyway I hope to see one soon.


:lol::lol::lol:

5' 10"??? pull the other one...if you are then I'm 6' 2" :banana: ooops forgot the shoes...are they 6 " heels? Maybe you should post the NABBA pic on your profile.

Envy you the bike shopping.

Yip I'm 5ft 8 " so my steel cap CAT shoes surely add another 2 inches or more easy to my height. And I reckon 5ft 8 " is the best height for many sports including BB and Biking so yeah I'm blessed :P

[pratik8890]

Hey Mossy what are your thoughts on this one? Others are welcomed to reply also. I had to mention Mossy as I have declared him the brand ambassador of all Kawasaki bikes :)


SO I came across this listing on trademe, its a nice looking bike but my only concern is the side exhaust. So I was hoping if you guys could please tell me if it's easy enough to put an exhaust under the seat of the bike( not the same one tho I'd look at getting a dual exhaust ) Below is the link:


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=663742613


Thanking you all.

[mossy1200]

Hey Mossy what are your thoughts on this one? Others are welcomed to reply also. I had to mention Mossy as I have declared him the brand ambassador of all Kawasaki bikes :)


SO I came across this listing on trademe, its a nice looking bike but my only concern is the side exhaust. So I was hoping if you guys could please tell me if it's easy enough to put an exhaust under the seat of the bike( not the same one tho I'd look at getting a dual exhaust ) Below is the link:


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=663742613


Thanking you all.

YOU NEED ASK HIM. Why did it need re vin process?
Is it an ex write off or did he have it parked and expire? Is it ex race bike returned to the road?

Looks ok. Personally the 2008 is a more valuable bike with added performance and handling over the 2005 but im not the one riding it.
If you like the 2005 its got some tasty extras and its a good buy at that price.
If you don't like black bikes then don't buy the 2008. I like black bikes and if I had an extra 9k idd be on a flight to collect it. Would look good parked beside the 14. Most of the litre bikes are worth owning. Im not into the Hondas. The shapes are a bit odd on the cbr to my liking.

Don't try under tail muffler conversions.
If you get 2005 move the plate out from underneath its going to give fuzz an excuse to pull you over and a get you a ticket if they don't like you.


How can anyone not like black bikes. That's just silly.

[pratik8890]

YOU NEED ASK HIM. Why did it need re vin process?
Is it an ex write off or did he have it parked and expire? Is it ex race bike returned to the road?

Looks ok. Personally the 2008 is a more valuable bike with added performance and handling over the 2005 but im not the one riding it.
If you like the 2005 its got some tasty extras and its a good buy at that price.
If you don't like black bikes then don't buy the 2008. I like black bikes and if I had an extra 9k idd be on a flight to collect it. Would look good parked beside the 14. Most of the litre bikes are worth owning. Im not into the Hondas. The shapes are a bit odd on the cbr to my liking.

Don't try under tail muffler conversions.
If you get 2005 move the plate out from underneath its going to give fuzz an excuse to pull you over and a get you a ticket if they don't like you.


How can anyone not like black bikes. That's just silly.


I wouldnt know and I dont wanna know after considering your valuable advise about the under tail muffler conversion and yes I do like black color but only on few bikes : the link below is one of them for sure :

http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/batman/images/e/e2/BatPod.jpg&imgrefurl=http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/File:BatPod.jpg&h=809&w=1200&sz=302&tbnid=oZNeHe8uk4uCKM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=133&zoom=1&usg=__z6iOglZclMcy2kCeKo2SKwo0-w8=&docid=nZlFR4QbIJJ9VM&sa=X&ei=Yh2RUpG1OqmtiQfcyYHYBg&ved=0CC4Q9QEwAA


And I have to admit your bike looks mean in black color and the exhaust also goes with the whole look of the bike. How often to do you wash/polish your bike Mossy? I remember doing that to my first bike ( which was in black color ) everyday before and after the ride..Thanks again for your input.

[mossy1200]

I wouldnt know and I dont wanna know after considering your valuable advise about the under tail muffler conversion and yes I do like black color but only on few bikes : the link below is one of them for sure :




And I have to admit your bike looks mean in black color and the exhaust also goes with the whole look of the bike. How often to do you wash/polish your bike Mossy? I remember doing that to my first bike ( which was in black color ) everyday before and after the ride..Thanks again for your input.

Not sure that any bat pod bikes will come up on tardme.

Mine gets cleaned when its dirty. It photos well because the black has a sparkle fleck in the paint.
The 2005 would be great bike but ask him why revin and if you get it move plate back to normal spot. A plate mount can be made easily or bought for 50-100 bucks.

[pratik8890]

Not sure that any bat pod bikes will come up on tardme.

Mine gets cleaned when its dirty. It photos well because the black has a sparkle fleck in the paint.
The 2005 would be great bike but ask him why revin and if you get it move plate back to normal spot. A plate mount can be made easily or bought for 50-100 bucks.


Yes I know they wont come on trademe anytime soon but parker bros and chopper city ( companies in states. )have built many of these puppies for their clients so its just a matter of time that some one in NZ starts building them. They look awkwardly unconformable to ride but they would be really fun to ride imo. Links below if any one wants to see 'em. Any way back to the silver zx 10 r, i will ask the seller and will let you know why he did that. Thank you



Parker bros:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wGvnXgHgM

Chopper city:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wGvnXgHgM

[Smifffy]

Booking my bus ticket tonight!!!

So what happened to the lifestyle change?

[pratik8890]

Hello my wonderful KB members, So I think i have found the right bike for me at the right price: below is the link, its a yamaha r1 listed for 7k on trademe, not bad aye!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=664462595#qna


So i was hoping if one of you who lives in Auckland could please go and check out the bike for me. I would really appreciate that and i'm more than happy to buy you 2 x big boxes of beer to return the favour :) Please pm me with your name and no. Many thanks

[BigAl]

7k that's a steal!

[tigertim20]

thats a bargain!

[pratik8890]

7k that's a steal!

Yeah I know right, hopefully one of the Aucklander could inspect the bike for me :)


thats a bargain!

Yip I hope nothing is wrong with it, I'm saying this cos I've requested the seller to post few pics from sides but he hasn't and the initial buy now was for $8750 and now its dropped to $7250 so I hope everything is legit about the bike? Does anyone know who the seller is?

P.S- His trademe feedback seems to be alright! And I'm still waiting for someone to pm or msg me here so that we could inspect the bike :)

[del-solider]

Bike has been re registered 3 times before and last time was September this year, so need to ask the seller whats up with that?
But apart from that looks like a mean bargain! if i had the spare dosh atm i would be dead keen

[pratik8890]

Bike has been re registered 3 times before and last time was September this year, so need to ask the seller whats up with that?
But apart from that looks like a mean bargain! if i had the spare dosh atm i would be dead keen


Thanks for the info but the seller has withdrawn the listing. I knew something was fishing about that listing anyway.


Guess the hunt is still on! Haha

[Erelyes]

Fishy? Or he just sold it :)

At that price I wouldn't bother inspecting, it already has a new WOF REG and service. Just buy it and give it a quick look over on pickup....

[pratik8890]

Fishy? Or he just sold it :)

At that price I wouldn't bother inspecting, it already has a new WOF REG and service. Just buy it and give it a quick look over on pickup....


Too late mate, its already gone :)

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663187241.htm

[Marmoot]

Hey Pratik, why 1000?
Let me tell you, having downgraded from a Fireblade to supersport before, the supersport bike is a hell of an enjoyment compared to the litre bike. Even in Pukekohe track.
Good late model CBR600RR (or R6) can be had for quite a decent price. Better yet if you can get ABS.

The best thing about having a 600 is that it makes you feel like a hero (even when commuting), being able to wring the throttle to let it scream and take corners with extreme, not worrying about weight. On 1000, it is less so. Sure the 1000's acceleration is super, but the fun is far fewer and novelty runs out too quickly.

Ducati 848 is super good once the suspension is sorted (budget around $3k for this), me having owned one for almost 6 years. If the suspension is not sorted, it does not feel that good at all (and can be quite dangerous, being overdamped and oversprung where grip on our bumpy roads become quite an issue on spirited riding).
Maintenance and running cost will (really....WILL !!) get expensive. Not to mention the stuff you'd be wanting to buy for it.
The amount of spareparts you'd have to replace can be quite staggering, depending on your luck (very lucky = not much. Normal luck = a lot. Bad luck = replace more than half the bike).
Service is every 12000kms (alternating between $700 and $1500 cost). Service for a Honda is only around $400.

Something like these I highly recommend....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-666010606.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663564532.htm

Even with just these you'll have lots of girls asking you to have their babies, so keep some spare money for condoms, nappies, and/or child support.

[EJK]

Something like these I highly recommend....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-666010606.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663564532.htm

Even with just these you'll have lots of girls asking you to have their babies, so keep some spare money for condoms, nappies, and/or child support.

Does it come with a pussy magnet?

[Marmoot]

They are the magnet. It works everytime.
Or maybe it's just them being next to me. I don't know....

[imdying]

He speaks the truth... a lot of fun to be had wringing the neck of something.

[Brett]

My personal experience:

First bike: ZXR250C (actually had 3 of them at once haha)

Mods: Stock

Most fun time of my motorcycle riding time. Handled well, screaming engine, cheap to run, got to the point where I could actually use all of its ability.

Upgraded to: 2005 GSXR600
Mods: Exhaust system, suspension set up.

Still a whole pile of fun, IMO the best balance in terms of engine capacity vs usability. Fast enough to make things exciting, sensible enough to not be insane. Handled brilliantly, only time I ever got frustrated by the lack of power was the back straight of Pukekohe. Only time ever.

Upgraded to: 2011 CBR 1000rr
Mods: Power commander 5, exhaust system.

Easily the best bike I have owned. PC5 has increased mid-range over a stocker something awesome. Exhaust sounds brilliant. Handles and stops excellently. Too powerful for every day use. You cannot use much of its ability on the road without a)running at a speed which will kill you and/or b) gets you in trouble with the law. Overall, unless on a track, ZXR250 and GSXR600 provided more day to day fun for me. Costs a lot more to run too.

My summary? Get a 600cc sports bike. Best bang for buck. Still BUCKET loads faster than a 250cc but while retaining some of the usability. *SOME* I said...they are still bloody fast and yo ucan easily get into trouble.
Easily the best bike I have owned.

[Marmoot]

I know certain people who run rings around 1000s at puke track on their 600. Stock standard, except suspensions.

[Brett]

I know certain people who run rings around 1000s at puke track on their 600. Stock standard, except suspensions.

Very readily believe it.

[imdying]

I know certain people who run rings around 1000s at puke track on their 600. Stock standard, except suspensions.Are they faster on a stock 1000 around Puke or on a stock 600?

[haydes55]

I know certain people who run rings around 1000s at puke track on their 600. Stock standard, except suspensions.







Moral of the story, buy a thou, otherwise you'd be lapped even more often.

[The Reibz]

I know certain people who run rings around 1000s at puke track on their 600. Stock standard, except suspensions.

I know certain people on 1300/1400cc bikes that completely destroy 1000/600cc bikes at meremere dragway. A VFR1200 is almost as quick down the strip as any supersport

[Marmoot]

Are they faster on a stock 1000 around Puke or on a stock 600?

Very good question.
One had a Cbr600rr, upgraded to cbr1000rr, then decided to downgrade back to Cbr600rr and went faster. The added weight on 1000 combined with arriving at the corner faster meant leas fun for him. He enjoyed the ability to go through the corners faster.

Another guy did the same (me), but from 1000 to ducati 848. The lighter weight means a lot more enjoyment. Or maybe it's justt he ducati. I don't know.

Another guy was not even remotely interested in 1000. He loves his r6 so much.

And i know of a guy who upgraded from cbr250rr to a 600. Now this young guy was fast. We're talking about him overtaking another guy (who is now one semi-pro racer) on an r1 round the outside on his 250 on a certain good road somewhere. From what i heard, he enjoyed that 600 less than his 250. Knowing him, i am not surprised.

Size is not everything.

[BigAl]

Size is not everything.

So sez the man with a small one.:laugh:

[nzspokes]

What about a GSXR750?

[The Reibz]

Size is not everything.
It honestly depends what track your on, one with corners or one without.
Puke/Hampton and 600 would run laps around me. At Fram Dragway I would run 2 seconds faster than most of them on a good launch. Personally I would prefer a faster quarter mile bike than one that could run a 1min round puke.
Its also a great performer on the street. I would never turn down a free 1000cc, fuck that. But I cant see myself changing from a busa in a very long time.

Thats the beauty of motorcycling, there is something for everone.

[Marmoot]

So sez the man with a small one.:laugh:

Indeed. But it does give a lot of satisfaction, if you know how to use it :)

And I refuse to call dragway a track. :oi-grr:

[Brett]

Very good question.
One had a Cbr600rr, upgraded to cbr1000rr, then decided to downgrade back to Cbr600rr and went faster. The added weight on 1000 combined with arriving at the corner faster meant leas fun for him. He enjoyed the ability to go through the corners faster.

Another guy did the same (me), but from 1000 to ducati 848. The lighter weight means a lot more enjoyment. Or maybe it's justt he ducati. I don't know.

Another guy was not even remotely interested in 1000. He loves his r6 so much.

And i know of a guy who upgraded from cbr250rr to a 600. Now this young guy was fast. We're talking about him overtaking another guy (who is now one semi-pro racer) on an r1 round the outside on his 250 on a certain good road somewhere. From what i heard, he enjoyed that 600 less than his 250. Knowing him, i am not surprised.

Size is not everything.


As I said before...my 250 provided my greatest entertainment. Would still ride one but for my size. Need to upgrade is sometimes an ego thing I reckon.

[Gremlin]

As I said before...my 250 provided my greatest entertainment. Would still ride one but for my size. Need to upgrade is sometimes an ego thing I reckon.
Stuff that... I love my 1200. Of course, it has as much power as a 600, but then being around double the size, it's more comfortable ;)

[pratik8890]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663187241.htm

Thanks again for the reminder Mossy and you know that I'm a fan of Kawa, right :)


Hey Pratik, why 1000?
Let me tell you, having downgraded from a Fireblade to supersport before, the supersport bike is a hell of an enjoyment compared to the litre bike. Even in Pukekohe track.
Good late model CBR600RR (or R6) can be had for quite a decent price. Better yet if you can get ABS.

The best thing about having a 600 is that it makes you feel like a hero (even when commuting), being able to wring the throttle to let it scream and take corners with extreme, not worrying about weight. On 1000, it is less so. Sure the 1000's acceleration is super, but the fun is far fewer and novelty runs out too quickly.

Ducati 848 is super good once the suspension is sorted (budget around $3k for this), me having owned one for almost 6 years. If the suspension is not sorted, it does not feel that good at all (and can be quite dangerous, being overdamped and oversprung where grip on our bumpy roads become quite an issue on spirited riding).
Maintenance and running cost will (really....WILL !!) get expensive. Not to mention the stuff you'd be wanting to buy for it.
The amount of spareparts you'd have to replace can be quite staggering, depending on your luck (very lucky = not much. Normal luck = a lot. Bad luck = replace more than half the bike).
Service is every 12000kms (alternating between $700 and $1500 cost). Service for a Honda is only around $400.

Something like these I highly recommend....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-666010606.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-663564532.htm

Even with just these you'll have lots of girls asking you to have their babies, so keep some spare money for condoms, nappies, and/or child support.


Thanks heaps for the detailed message Marmoot, I appreciate it but it looks like I might end up between a 600 cc and 1000cc bike, i.e 750 cc :) I've already looked at those ones but I'm really fussy and I do like them but I didnt like the color on them . SO I dont waana end up buying one of them half heartedly and then mourn later on.


I also came across this mean R6 listing on trademe recently but the guys has put an overpriced asking price of 9,600 for a 2007 R6. So i'm keen to buy it but he doesnt seem to lower the price than 9 k and IMHO i think its still too pricey, your thoughts?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=668169289




My personal experience:

First bike: ZXR250C (actually had 3 of them at once haha)

Mods: Stock

Most fun time of my motorcycle riding time. Handled well, screaming engine, cheap to run, got to the point where I could actually use all of its ability.

Upgraded to: 2005 GSXR600
Mods: Exhaust system, suspension set up.

Still a whole pile of fun, IMO the best balance in terms of engine capacity vs usability. Fast enough to make things exciting, sensible enough to not be insane. Handled brilliantly, only time I ever got frustrated by the lack of power was the back straight of Pukekohe. Only time ever.

Upgraded to: 2011 CBR 1000rr
Mods: Power commander 5, exhaust system.

Easily the best bike I have owned. PC5 has increased mid-range over a stocker something awesome. Exhaust sounds brilliant. Handles and stops excellently. Too powerful for every day use. You cannot use much of its ability on the road without a)running at a speed which will kill you and/or b) gets you in trouble with the law. Overall, unless on a track, ZXR250 and GSXR600 provided more day to day fun for me. Costs a lot more to run too.

My summary? Get a 600cc sports bike. Best bang for buck. Still BUCKET loads faster than a 250cc but while retaining some of the usability. *SOME* I said...they are still bloody fast and yo ucan easily get into trouble.
Easily the best bike I have owned.


I agree on this one cos most of my mates owning a thou used to swap their rides with mine so they can have mean fun going through the corner etc and they all reckon 250cc are more fun than 600 cc or thou..

[imdying]

Size is not everything.This is true... being a two stroke is everything! :D I have a couple of 250s, wouldn't be without them.

[pratik8890]

OK Guys, looks like I have found my one of my dream bike or at least the next upgrade. Its a 2001 Mv Agusta 750 f4. I've done all the digging and the bike is in top condition inside out. Please see the description below from the seller of this bike:



"Treat yourself to the Prince of Bikes with a pauper's price!

I have owned this for two years and done approximately 4000 dry kms apart from one wet afternoon.
The bulk of the kms were done by the first owner who clocked up 36,000 by 2005.This was apparently done on long trips around NZ

Since then it has been owned by Sunday riders such as myself who, I guess, bought it for the joy of owning and riding such a special marque but without breaking the bank.

I am the guy who has spent the money on the necessary maintanence.
4000 kms ago $1100 spent on fixing small oil leak and front forks completely overhauled.

It has some small marks on the right fairing and a small fracture at the bottom which is hardly noticable when not looking for it. There is also a scrape mark on the right chassis member under the fairing where some past owner went for a slide. This affects nothing and cannot be seen

About 1000km ago I took the bike to the suspension guru, Robert Taylor at KSS in New Plymouth, who completely rebuilt the rear shock and converted it to essentially an upmarket Ohlins shock. The bike has been set up for me, fairly short and light, but can be easily adjusted for others. At the same time new Conti Speed Attack Tyres fitted and bike also comes with spare set of Metzler Racetec about half worn

I have also done the handling tweak of swapping the clip-ons across from left to right and right to left which makes the bike INFINITELY easier to ride and not so extreme. I can ride it all day with no issues. It is an absolute joy to ride now the suspension has been sorted.


The respect that comes your way from riding this is something to experience. From the car driver at the petrol station who asked "Is that one of THOSE bikes" (to which I replied "Yes it is one of THOSE bikes) to the biker coming the other way who sat up high in his saddle and beat his heart with his fist! THAT never happened to me on my Yamaha! "


He is wanting 12.5 k and he's quite firm on the price. So my question to you lads is, " Is 12.5 k the right price for this bike " A part of me tells me it is right and the other says it might be a lil bit pricey? Your thoughts


And BTW I'm attaching the picture of the bike so please check em out.

In Nutshell

Year/mode: 2001 Mv Agusta 750 f4 ( two seater )

Kilometers done ( 49 K )

Asking Price = 12. 5k

Bike is in mint condition both mechanically and from outside.

Thank you all and I would really appreciate if you could give me your valuable opinions about the value of teh bike? Thanks again.

[pratik8890]

adding few more pics.

[Tazz]

Fark yeah. Your budget is getting bigger eh haha

Not really qualified to say on price but from this comment, "I am the guy who has spent the money on the necessary maintenance" I do wonder if he is placing some of the cost of servicing on the value of the bike? which doesn't work.

It has also been on there a while which can be a good indicator of what the market thinks of the price.

I reckon buy it anyway though haha Did you test ride it yet?

[pratik8890]

Fark yeah. Your budget is getting bigger eh haha

Not really qualified to say on price but from this comment, "I am the guy who has spent the money on the necessary maintenance" I do wonder if he is placing some of the cost of servicing on the value of the bike? which doesn't work.

It has also been on there a while which can be a good indicator of what the market thinks of the price.

I reckon buy it anyway though haha Did you test ride it yet?



Well the budget gets expandable for such a beautiful bike and I guess he may have included some of the maintenance cost in his asking price ( I spoke to him the other day and he told me about the suspension he got done by Suspension Guru ( Robert Taylor from the Naki ), further to this he said the only problem with the 750 f4 was the factory suspension which seems to be really stiff but after getting it sorted from Robert, the bike is on a whole new level in terms of comfort and performance. The price doesnt bother me cos I've saved enough in last 6 months but just wanted to know if I was paying the right price for it. I'm just 3 letter away from buying it ( YES ) but just wanted to get you guys feedback about the price before going for it. I havent had a chance to test ride the bike yet cos I live in New Plymouth and he is in Hawkes Bay but going by the conversations we had so far and his 100 % positive feedback on trademe gives me the confidence to believe in him. If everything works out then my mate and I will be going over on 1000cc sportsbike to test drive and pickup the bike. Would be fun riding back on our respective bikes. Haha

[Tazz]

Is he similar in size and weight to you? If there is quite a difference the suspension could be a bad thing as he said it was specifically set up for him, so if he or yourself eat a heap of pies there could be trouble :lol: Then again, if it has been done right it should be easy enough to adjust it yeah? (I don't know much about bike suspension to be fair). You'll find out when you ride it anyway.

I hope the test ride goes well bro, I had never heard of these till this thread and have read up on them heaps since. Wish I had the cash for the single seater you were considering. One day =D

Best of luck.

[pratik8890]

Is he similar in size and weight to you? If there is quite a difference the suspension could be a bad thing as he said it was specifically set up for him, so if he or yourself eat a heap of pies there could be trouble :lol: Then again, if it has been done right it should be easy enough to adjust it yeah? (I don't know much about bike suspension to be fair). You'll find out when you ride it anyway.

I hope the test ride goes well bro, I had never heard of these till this thread and have read up on them heaps since. Wish I had the cash for the single seater you were considering. One day =D

Best of luck.

He's of the same height but weighs less than me, he reckons the new suspension can be easily done using single adjusting bolt. Takes 2 minutes. Yeah I hope so too that the bike turns out as advertised, just waiting for few other members to share their opinions about the price and I will then do the final negotiation with the seller to seal the deal.
That single seater Agusta is also a nice bike but I really wanted to have a double seater and therefore this appeals to me a lot. Good luck with your future hunt for Mv Agusta and thanks for the feedback bro :)

[Brett]

He's of the same height but weighs less than me, he reckons the new suspension can be easily done using single adjusting bolt. Takes 2 minutes. Yeah I hope so too that the bike turns out as advertised, just waiting for few other members to share their opinions about the price and I will then do the final negotiation with the seller to seal the deal.
That single seater Agusta is also a nice bike but I really wanted to have a double seater and therefore this appeals to me a lot. Good luck with your future hunt for Mv Agusta and thanks for the feedback bro :)

That MV Agusta is a nice bike...but i would still pick a Yammie R6 over it. R6 - heaps of spares available, easier maintenance, cheaper maintenance, more reliable (if MV stories are to be believed). But then..the MV is definitely of a finer breed. Question really is...what does the heart say? If it isn't "hell yeah", keep looking. If you really love the look of it...then that can be a deal sealer on its own.

[Erelyes]

Seems to me that an MV is the sort of bike that you will go and buy completely on impulse, rather than analysing it?

[del-solider]

This one correct?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-650740680.htm

If it were me i would stay away from it and buy a more modern jappa for that price, 12.5k is quite a bit for a 12 almost 13 year old bike, heck you can get a 3-4 year old jappa thou for that.

The reliability and maintenance of this bike could cost you ALOT in the long run for not that much more performance over a jappa.
Sure it looks like sex but that's not all that counts.
The power is not even that great on them about the same as a modern jappa 600 with pipe n PC and nowhere near a 1000.

If you have your mine set on it then go for it im sure it'll be great bike!!.... When its running that is ;)

[SVboy]

This one correct?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-650740680.htm

If it were me i would stay away from it and buy a more modern jappa for that price, 12.5k is quite a bit for a 12 almost 13 year old bike, heck you can get a 3-4 year old jappa thou for that.

The reliability and maintenance of this bike could cost you ALOT in the long run for not that much more performance over a jappa.
Sure it looks like sex but that's not all that counts.
The power is not even that great on them about the same as a modern jappa 600 with pipe n PC and nowhere near a 1000.

If you have your mine set on it then go for it im sure it'll be great bike!!.... When its running that is ;)


This sums it up nicely-however if you are buying with your heart rather than your head- why are you asking us? Hardly any of us are MV experts or are well placed to give you a price appraisal! Go ahead and buy it. If you are actually using your head, then heed the advice and buy a late model Jappa. Jappas dont spin your wheels then FFS grow a pair and get the MV!

[ducatilover]

Just buy it already. Who gives a fuck about what keyboard warriors think?

[pratik8890]

That MV Agusta is a nice bike...but i would still pick a Yammie R6 over it. R6 - heaps of spares available, easier maintenance, cheaper maintenance, more reliable (if MV stories are to be believed). But then..the MV is definitely of a finer breed. Question really is...what does the heart say? If it isn't "hell yeah", keep looking. If you really love the look of it...then that can be a deal sealer on its own.

I've done all the necessary digging about this model and they are one of the most reliable ones being the old school. The only problem with them was the factory suspension and that has been taken care by Robert Taylor and he's no.1 in NZ when it comes to suspesnsion so thats one thing out of my way. The other thing is the part availability and they are available throughout nz through MV Agusta Dealers ( most them are Red Baron in Auckland, Wellington and Tauranga ) so like the previous owner I would shop around to hunt for the parts my self to save money and then provide it to the mechanic at the time of servicing. There are few other things which needs changing from time to time like any other motorbike are the chain & Sprockets, a compulsory oil change ever 6000 kms and valve clearance around every 10,000 kms and most of the things can be done own you own by following the service manual or by looking up the video tutorials on MvAgusta.net and for the rest the mechanic will come handy.

The other thing i found that needs attention on this bike will be failing of rear hub but there's a permanent remedy for it, a Mv Agusta specialist in Australia makes the custom ones will last for ever than the factory ones so that'll be the first thing I'll buy once I have the bike and it cost $1000 but I'll be worth it in the long run.

one more thing is to check the the fuel filter regularly to make sure the fuel hoses in the tank are all ok and the last thing would be to ckeck the fuses and relays if spmething goes wrong with the electronics and luckily I have a Auto electrician mate who will do this for free if need be. So yeah in other words its a simple MV Agusta being one of the oldest model cos the newer ones are more complex and their parts are way too expensive


Advice, if you are asking on here, you don't know what you are doing.
Get hold of someone in the game and ask them what its worth.I wouldn't have a clue and I been around a while and have had 50 bikes.
There is a rule with cars , touch nothing european unless you can buy it new !
I don't know ,ask Crasher on here, he might give ya an answer ?

Yeah mate, have already signed up on Mv Agusta. net forum and Mv Agusta owners all over the world have supplied me with enough info in terms of maintaining the bike ( parts and servicing etc . ) Some of them are also parts manufactureres themselves based in states and Aussie so getting parts would be piece of cake and they are heavily discounted for members so that will be convenient also.


Seems to me that an MV is the sort of bike that you will go and buy completely on impulse, rather than analysing it? Na mate i have been analysing the bike since ages. I was a noob when i first started but now I've become a guru in theory anyway :)


This one correct?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-650740680.htm

If it were me i would stay away from it and buy a more modern jappa for that price, 12.5k is quite a bit for a 12 almost 13 year old bike, heck you can get a 3-4 year old jappa thou for that.

The reliability and maintenance of this bike could cost you ALOT in the long run for not that much more performance over a jappa.
Sure it looks like sex but that's not all that counts.
The power is not even that great on them about the same as a modern jappa 600 with pipe n PC and nowhere near a 1000.

If you have your mine set on it then go for it im sure it'll be great bike!!.... When its running that is ;)


I understand where youre coming from bro but this Italian bike is like a Japanese bike in disguise, trust me on that I have done heaps of research to make me say that. Even a guy like me can easily do some of the basic things ( changing oil filter, chain and sprockets etc. ) by following the manual. The only other thing that I will have to get them to do for me would be the valve clearance and checking the bearing for the rear hub and keeping them lubed etc.


This sums it up nicely-however if you are buying with your heart rather than your head- why are you asking us? Hardly any of us are MV experts or are well placed to give you a price appraisal! Go ahead and buy it. If you are actually using your head, then heed the advice and buy a late model Jappa. Jappas dont spin your wheels then FFS grow a pair and get the MV!

I did all the research using my head and now I'm above to buy it with all of my heart and no regrets, i don't wanna be that guy who ends up buying a bike and than mourning after couple of months. I have done enough research so lets see whats destined for me in the future. Will keep you guys updated anyway or you guys will find it out anyway , i.e when I start winging about the bike on here. Haha


Just buy it already. Who gives a fuck about what keyboard warriors think? Haha thanks for teh support bud, I'm going to seal the deal today :)

[bluninja]

I sat on a mates MV in 2002....on full lock you trap your thumbs between the bar and the tank. You'll buy what you want to buy in the end, I guess you are just using the fine folks on KB to help you get the price down. Will you need help being shown how to put the rear up on a paddock stand? Or will you just go down to Mach 1 Yamaha and get them to show you with something you bought off Trademe? <_<

[pratik8890]

Well it's a Honda and Hondas are ghey....

First you winge about Honda ^^ and now you troll about MV. haha, jealous much ?


I sat on a mates MV in 2002....on full lock you trap your thumbs between the bar and the tank. You'll buy what you want to buy in the end, I guess you are just using the fine folks on KB to help you get the price down. Will you need help being shown how to put the rear up on a paddock stand? Or will you just go down to Mach 1 Yamaha and get them to show you with something you bought off Trademe? <_<

I think that's because your were oversized?? and if it were getting trapped then I'm sure the previous owners of this bike would have sushed it out by now.


Why would I use KB members to get the price down? Is that even possible if so then everyone who buys a 2nd hand motorbike in NZ would have got massive discounts for their bikes Divide and rule used to work back in the days but not anymore mate ! And I was 21 then so everyone has to start somewhere you know. Did you also get trolled by someone like you when you first started out riding a bike? Anywho you keeping do what you do best ( Underestimate people ) and I'll keep proving you wrong each time :)

[Gremlin]

Ok... you've rubbished anything anyone had to say about MV (unless it was positive).

Argued with the merits of other options.

I really have no idea what you're doing with this thread, as you're clearly doing what you wanted in the first place...

[SVboy]

Shush you two. The man has decided on the MV. Allow him to live his dream.

[pratik8890]

Ok... you've rubbished anything anyone had to say about MV (unless it was positive).

Argued with the merits of other options.

I really have no idea what you're doing with this thread, as you're clearly doing what you wanted in the first place...

Hi Gremlin, I've considered the negative points also about this bike and like any other bike this ones not bullet proof either so I guess I'll find out once I buy it and will keep you guys in loop ifI made teh right decision or not? And as I said earlier I love motorbikes it doesnt matter if its Japanes or Italian. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that but at the end of the day I will end up buying whats destined for me and not my choice . First I thought it was that Honda cbr 1000rr but it dint work out so I tried negotiating with seller of that blue R1 and then R6 but then didnt work either so now I'm close to buying this Mv Agusta but hey its still under negotiations and nothing has been finalized yet . Thus you never know I might end up buying some thing totally out of my list ( a Jetski ). Lol

[BigAl]

Good on you, it sounds as though you've carefully thought it out.

[pratik8890]

Shush you two. The man has decided on the MV. Allow him to live his dream.


Thanks mate I love them all and my current list has 7 t0 8 of them ( 2 Italian and the rest Jappa ) so I'm just going by the flow and hoping to have the right bike at the end of my quest. I was super keen to buy that Honda first but it didnt workout, then R1 and then R6 but not luck either so lets see what happens with Mv if not move onto the next available bike.


FYI KB Members- I've got got a quote for an insurance from Kiwibike ( attention BluNinja- see I do listen to everyones advice on here ) and they quoted $833 nzd including gst for a full comprehensive cover, it includes3.5 k towards gear and clothing cover plus 3 x roadside assistance per annum and the excess is $250, not bad eh!

[bluninja]

First you winge about Honda ^^ and now you troll about MV. haha, jealous much ?



I think that's because your were oversized?? and if it were getting trapped then I'm sure the previous owners of this bike would have sushed it out by now.
A factual observation on a 2001 MV Agusta....perhaps when you test ride it you can now see if this is sorted, or not :no:



Why would I use KB members to get the price down? Well if, as you've posted, the guy won't budge on price the only thing that matters is if YOU think it's worth $12.5k. Asking the audience I can only assume you are looking to see if the price is over inflated, so using input from KB you point some things out to the seller to try and reduce the asking price.


Divide and rule used to work back in the days but not anymore mate ! And I was 21 then so everyone has to start somewhere you know. Did you also get trolled by someone like you when you first started out riding a bike? Anywho you keeping do what you do best ( Underestimate people ) and I'll keep proving you wrong each time :)

That would be "Divide and Conquer" :innocent: when I first started riding bikes there was no internet to Google or forums to troll on :shit: As for underestimating people and proving them wrong.......say that to my face when you see me next and we'll see who underestimates whom :laugh:

Enjoy your bike, whatever you choose to purchase...just get it done already....there's been more pictures of bikes or sale than in the KB ads section. :gob:

[pratik8890]

Good on you, it sounds as though you've carefully thought it out.



Yeah I guess so and thanks to you guys for the support so far, I'd never gained so much knowledge about the bikes if not for you guys.

[pratik8890]

A factual observation on a 2001 MV Agusta....perhaps when you test ride it you can now see if this is sorted, or not :no:


Well if, as you've posted, the guy won't budge on price the only thing that matters is if YOU think it's worth $12.5k. Asking the audience I can only assume you are looking to see if the price is over inflated, so using input from KB you point some things out to the seller to try and reduce the asking price.



That would be "Divide and Conquer" :innocent: when I first started riding bikes there was no internet to Google or forums to troll on :shit: As for underestimating people and proving them wrong.......say that to my face when you see me next and we'll see who underestimates whom :laugh:

Enjoy your bike, whatever you choose to purchase...just get it done already....there's been more pictures of bikes or sale than in the KB ads section. :gob:



Haha sorry i was not given an instruction manual to be an efficient KB member so I suppose I'll learn as I go.

And if you start something then I will finish it

[bluninja]

Haha sorry i was not given an instruction manual to be an efficient KB member so I suppose I'll learn as I go.

And if you start something then I will finish it

Care to expand on this?

[pratik8890]

Care to expand on this?



If you start with A, I will finish with Z

[bluninja]

What can I say?

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 7982148086513282306647

:baby:

[BuzzardNZ]

What can I say?

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 7982148086513282306647

:baby:

LOL, nice reply :yes:

[pratik8890]

What can I say?

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 7982148086513282306647

:baby:

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 7982148086513282306647............................ .....∞ :wings:

[bluninja]

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 7982148086513282306647............................ .....∞ :wings:

FAIL! Pi is an irrational number and so it's decimal representation never ends...so what's the last number in Pi? What ? You can't finish what I started? I see you underestimated me :laugh:

(infinity is not a decimal number)

[pratik8890]

FAIL! Pi is an irrational number and so it's decimal representation never ends...so what's the last number in Pi? What ? You can't finish what I started? I see you underestimated me :laugh:

(infinity is not a decimal number)


Guess I have to fully finish my Khan's Academy..lol
:confused:

[imdying]

Jesus, you have to check all those things? Regularly? You can't even turn the bars fully without trapping your thumbs?

'Character' is what retards console themselves with... The rest of us call a spare a spade and know it is nothing more than crap engineering. But, if you want a motorcycling lifestyle instead of just having a motorcycle to ride, it might be right up your alley. You'll have to decide for yourself if your life is really that empty.

[nodrog]

.........
The other thing i found that needs attention on this bike will be failing of rear hub but there's a permanent remedy for it, a Mv Agusta specialist in Australia makes the custom ones will last for ever than the factory ones so that'll be the first thing I'll buy once I have the bike and it only cost $100 so I'll be worth it in the long run.


Fuck you have talked so much misinformed bullshit in this thread, you make the Nek Minute guy look like Alfred Einstein.

If you can get the hub for $100, I will come around and suck your pimply ball bag. They cost nearly 10 times that.


.....buying some thing totally out of my list ( a Jetski ). Lol

I wouldn't buy a jetski if I was you, if somebody said you cant breathe under water you wouldn't listen.

[imdying]

I know I know, budgets being what they are... but have you considered a new one with a factory warranty?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-554219261.htm

[bucket boy]

Fuck you have talked so much misinformed bullshit in this thread, you make the Nek Minute guy look like Alfred Einstein.

If you can get the hub for $1000, I will come around and suck your pimply ball bag.



I wouldn't buy a jetski if I was you, if somebody said you cant breathe under water you wouldn't listen.
Does your wife know your out doing this sort of thing.

[pratik8890]

Does your wife know your out doing this sort of thing.


Classic +1 :headbang:

[ducatilover]

They all do the thumb trapping trick. And the radiator mounts will break.

But buy it, it's sexy.


FWIW an early F4i 1000 sold recently for just under $10k, much moar betterer bike.

[pratik8890]

They all do the thumb trapping trick. And the radiator mounts will break.

But buy it, it's sexy.


FWIW an early F4i 1000 sold recently for just under $10k, much moar betterer bike.

Thanks for the update man

[nodrog]

Does your wife know your out doing this sort of thing.

does your wife know you could have got a hub for $100?

[bucket boy]

does your wife know you could have got a hub for $100?

I prob told her that anyway.

[Erelyes]

I prob told her that anyway.

Maybe she went and got the hub for ya.
IYKWIM

[del-solider]

Soooo...

Do you on a MV yet??

[BigAl]

Soooo...

Do you on a MV yet??

Prolly stuck on the side of the road somewhere.

[bluninja]

Nah it's raining. Who rides or buys bikes when it's raining. Of course he could have got confused between and MV and an envy and is currently piloting an HP tablet.....nah he'd probably have crashed the tablet by now :lol:

[imdying]

Yep, the beast demands to be fed pics!

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