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John
11th September 2005, 06:57
Crap I baleted the wrong post, anywho heres the latest rain-dar (oh tricky)

From my place, it looks - crappy, cold and slippery :oi-grr:

Antallica
11th September 2005, 07:07
So how's it lookin in Aucks?

DEATH_INC.
11th September 2005, 07:38
Lookin north from south aucks looks sweet,sunny here.

TLDV8
11th September 2005, 07:46
Lookin north from south aucks looks sweet,sunny here.

WindowCam :ride:


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RiderInBlack
11th September 2005, 07:54
Drizzling here and I cann't be fartarsed, Not going to risk the bike before the Rust Nuts GC. Will kick myself if if fines up. Ride carefully if doesn't.

RiderInBlack
11th September 2005, 08:02
If the Sun comes out up here by 9am, I'll get on my bike. Otherwise It's DVD time

Korumba
11th September 2005, 08:18
The Sky is sitting on the Ground..but has just stated to lift.
Will see at 9.00am
BTY the Lions live out the way the Photo has been taken, about 5Km away and I can here them " going off" right now.

TLDV8
11th September 2005, 08:36
Its not as blue now,but still good for a ride...will do the bit to Wellsford and a quick blat back down the middle as a minimum...TL's ready to go :woohoo:

bugjuice
11th September 2005, 08:38
on the north shore - high dense cloud, but not really mush chance of heavy rain. May be a few drizzles, but doubtful. The sun has broke thru, and this will blow over given a few hours, so it should be a good day for the ride.. see ya soon :)

Antallica
11th September 2005, 08:42
What's moving in a northern direction? Nasty shit or good weather?

eliot-ness
11th September 2005, 08:44
Warkworth looking north to Wellsford. Dull, High cloud cover. Mist on hills but lifting. Temp 15degrees. Roads damp. Light easterly breeze. Should be a good ride. Sorry I can't be with you.

RiderInBlack
11th September 2005, 08:47
OK, Putting in Contacts and heading for Maungatapere

Korumba
11th September 2005, 09:04
On my way!

Antallica
11th September 2005, 14:59
Well that turned out to be a bloody marvellous day out.

Antallica
11th September 2005, 15:18
Some pics I took with my phone

GR81
11th September 2005, 15:18
Pics here...

http://gr81.orcon.net.nz/bikerun/

John
11th September 2005, 15:23
well farken good time was had by all? - Only one semi comical incident that I am aware of - but we will let the unfortunate one explain that one.

Anywho was a crapload of people turn up pitty I was to fat and lazy to get to know some of you!

Here are some pictures - I missed alot because most of you poofs ran off :psst:

Here are the remaining group who were scared off by the rain, Dont worry I know your bikes are all shiney and nice and you dont want water to get on them :sherlock:

John
11th September 2005, 15:27
The group who had balls and followed RIB awesome roads - was fecken awesome you all missed out big time :hbd:


Isnt RIB a ..... sexy beast?

and doesnt ant look innocent, what have you done ant?

Thanks PF for organisation good to see you and you woman turn up (can I say that?):woohoo:, nice to have the blat with those on the northern roads and nice to meet Korumba :hbd:

MacD
11th September 2005, 15:35
Thanks PF for organising the ride! Here are a few more pics taken at Kaukapakapa and Puhoi. Including the cafe racer line-up for Yokai!

(PS: SpankMe - if you were wondering where we got to on the ride back I was day-dreaming and missed the Silverdale turn-off, so just continued on down SH1 back to Auckland. Oops!)

Firefight
11th September 2005, 15:38
Great to see so many out today having a good ride, thanks for the pics, makes being stuck at work all day ...sort of worth it.


F/F

Phenoix
11th September 2005, 16:10
Awsome ride.
Good for my first proper KB ride instead of just seeing a group fly past me in the opposite direction.
Got to know a few poeple, but still hard to match names to bike to profiles.
Thanks to all the help point out the way to go : :Punk:

R6_kid
11th September 2005, 16:15
was an awesome day out. We'll have to train you people on the 250's up, i got lonely out in front by myself after the gixxer thou crew left me for dead. Spose i should slow down a bit but i was really loving it today and felt quite at home despite my rather shifty rear end.

Good to catch up with you crazy lot again, hope to see you lot out on another big ride in a few weeks.

:ride:

El Dopa
11th September 2005, 16:20
Hmmm, let me see now....

That's one, two, three KB rides I've attended, and one, two, three trips home in a truck.

Is anyone else spotting a patterm?

Thanks to everyone who stopped and helped. I dunno what went bang. I'll go and have a look when I feel brave eough to cope with the disappointment.

Lou Girardin
11th September 2005, 16:47
That was a lovely little meander through the northwest, I so enjoy a little waft on a Sunday.
A hint of fried Michelin on the breeze mingling with the scent of hi octane. Marvelling at a Gixxer thou going past on one wheel. Ducking behind the screen as we pepper each other with stones.
I do seem to lose all my races on the straights though.
I really must do one of the fast rides.
A great day thoroughly enjoyed, well done PF.

Dodgyiti
11th September 2005, 17:24
Great day out. It was almost dry, the whole day.
Big group and no bins is always good.
Good pictures thanks folks.. :clap:

aff-man
11th September 2005, 17:26
was an awesome day out. We'll have to train you people on the 250's up, i got lonely out in front by myself after the gixxer thou crew left me for dead. Spose i should slow down a bit but i was really loving it today and felt quite at home despite my rather shifty rear end.

Good to catch up with you crazy lot again, hope to see you lot out on another big ride in a few weeks.

:ride:

Hahahahah seeing you tucked behind the fairing going hard and i look down to see i'm only doing like 70 and passing you was funny.

I had fun. Sorry i piked on the up north ride but ominous weather and a hangover didn't help. Had fun on the way back though with some others. Was kinda laxed out near the end which was pretty cool. Good ride Good company and great to meet some new faces. See you on the next one.

crashe
11th September 2005, 17:35
well farken good time was had by all? - Only one semi comical incident that I am aware of - but we will let the unfortunate one explain that one.

I assume that you could be talking about me...

Yes folks I had a "Bin" today...



Nope not the bike but me...

Farkin McDonalds had wet floors and had the signs miles away from where it was wet and I didnt know that they had washed them. My back was turned when they did it so had no idea what was about to happen.

I stood up and down and I went with a thud..
With one word coming out of my mouth very loud was "FUCK"

I jarred my back really badly and it hurt for a long time afterwards...
Wasn't pleasant riding with the back like that...

Probably be sore tomorrow thou.

Otherwise a great day....

I played tail end charlie from Kaukopakopa to wellsford for our newbie...

Went to the Puhoi pub and then afterwards went to PF's...

Well done PF...... no real "bins" to speak of.

52 bikes meet at Wellsford....

Avignon
11th September 2005, 17:37
That was a great ride. Do you concur, yes doctor I concur. Thanks for whoever organised it. It was good the weather held off. This was my first ride with KB. I touched 240 a couple of times following a gixxer thou :chase: and this was a slow/medium ride. Cant wait for a fast one.

R6_kid
11th September 2005, 17:39
Hahahahah seeing you tucked behind the fairing going hard and i look down to see i'm only doing like 70 and passing you was funny.


AYE??? When was that? Loved the little drag series at the lights in to albany!!! Did you see how much attention 5 bikes lined up at the lights gets!

To be honest (without getting an ego) i did ok today considering the shit i had on my back :violin: when you add my fat ass, and the fact that im a tad oversized for the lil old zxr it does make me looks like a half decent rider :devil2:

I might have to take that 600 of yours out for a short spin at some stage, if i dont get my own one first :motu:

crashe
11th September 2005, 17:41
Hmmm, let me see now....

That's one, two, three KB rides I've attended, and one, two, three trips home in a truck.

Is anyone else spotting a patterm?

Thanks to everyone who stopped and helped. I dunno what went bang. I'll go and have a look when I feel brave eough to cope with the disappointment.


Was that you that broke down...

Time to get a new bike mate...
Thats 3 times now...

Or is it that particular road that doesnt like your bike....

R6_kid
11th September 2005, 17:43
I touched 240 a couple of times following a gixxer thou :chase: and this was a slow/medium ride. Cant wait for a fast one.

lol, there was quite a mix in there today, the really fast KB guys (that i know of) werent there.

Only difference between the higher pace of today and a 'fast' ride is that they dont deviate their speed much into corners, its pretty much like Isle of Man TT racing, just without the pit stops and closed roads!
(you wont see me there for a while yet)

Scorpygirl
11th September 2005, 17:44
The pics looked like there was a heap of bikes there and the comments suggest people had a great time.

Awesum that there were no real bins but I hope that your back is not going to be too bad Crashe - ouch :oi-grr:

Give me another couple of months to get my confidence up and I should be able to join you. :ride: :spudflip:

Right Charlie
11th September 2005, 17:56
was an awesome day out. We'll have to train you people on the 250's up, i got lonely out in front by myself after the gixxer thou crew left me for dead. Spose i should slow down a bit but i was really loving it today and felt quite at home despite my rather shifty rear end.

Good to catch up with you crazy lot again, hope to see you lot out on another big ride in a few weeks.

:ride:


I reckon once i sort out the Biscuit i call a rear tyre with some decent rubber i stand a chance of keeping up, i was only 5 seconds off the blistering pace of your blue beast around Puke, and that was with a top speed of 150kph..

Fantastic day aside from some cheeky Fella on a Kwaka shooting past me on the left as i was moving across to the left... :nono:

To all, i was the fellah on the Mad Max Replica (minus the chick wearing feck all holding a cross bow) Gixxer two fiddy, all noise, no go.

Bring on the next cruise.

R6_kid
11th September 2005, 17:58
The pics looked like there was a heap of bikes there and the comments suggest people had a great time.

Give me another couple of months to get my confidence up and I should be able to join you. :ride: :spudflip:

there were HEAPS of bikes! To be honest i'd say get out and join us. There were two virago 250's out today, one rider likes to give hers a bit of a hard time, the other just nanas along at her own pace :ride:

You will learn a lot faster riding with a group, and if you stick with people that have the similar/the same bike as you, you will very quickly learn that you can go quicker and still be fine - and feel comfortable doing it too.

Might see you out next time!

R6_kid
11th September 2005, 18:02
I reckon once i sort out the Biscuit i call a rear tyre with some decent rubber i stand a chance of keeping up, i was only 5 seconds off the blistering pace of your blue beast around Puke, and that was with a top speed of 150kph..

LOL, yeh man. Might be a new bike you need, not new rubber! I did lap you, but that will be more because i had more power than you.

I suggest getting out and doing the Ride Right Ride Safe course, it'll make you a quicker, safer and more confident rider (sounds like a sales pitch!), either way it helped me loads and i will be returning to do it again in a month or two.

Scorpygirl
11th September 2005, 18:05
there were HEAPS of bikes! To be honest i'd say get out and join us. There were two virago 250's out today, one rider likes to give hers a bit of a hard time, the other just nanas along at her own pace :ride:

You will learn a lot faster riding with a group, and if you stick with people that have the similar/the same bike as you, you will very quickly learn that you can go quicker and still be fine - and feel comfortable doing it too.

Might see you out next time!

Thanks Gareth_D for the assuring words and yes you will see me out there. I am determined to over my nerves!!! :devil2:

R6_kid
11th September 2005, 18:08
Thanks Gareth_D for the assuring words and yes you will see me out there. I am determined to over my nerves!!! :devil2:

no problems, after all it is all about getting out there and doing it!

TLDV8
11th September 2005, 18:09
You will learn a lot faster riding with a group, and if you stick with people that have the similar/the same bike as you, you will very quickly learn that you can go quicker and still be fine - and feel comfortable doing it too.


Sounds good to me..as long as folk stick to a pace that is comfortable and enjoyable its all fun.......... That was a great ride..Cheer's PF and KB :clap:

crashe
11th September 2005, 18:13
The pics looked like there was a heap of bikes there and the comments suggest people had a great time.

Awesum that there were no real bins but I hope that your back is not going to be too bad Crashe - ouch :oi-grr:

Give me another couple of months to get my confidence up and I should be able to join you. :ride: :spudflip:


There was a real newbie out there today.... and I was her tail end charlie..
you should have come and rode along with her... and that would have helped you get over your nerves... The more you ride... the better it will be for you to help you get over those nerves.

How would you like to just go out for a ride with me...
Just you and me.... to see how you do...
We could just do my favourite loop... it isnt that long but a really nice ride.
I am available to go out on a ride most days.

Scorpygirl
11th September 2005, 18:22
How would you like to just go out for a ride with me...
Just you and me.... to see how you do...
We could just do my favourite loop... it isnt that long but a really nice ride.
I am available to go out on a ride most days.[/QUOTE]

That would be great Crashe - just got to get a new battery for the Virago and the get it warrented and registered. Could be a few more weeks yet as Rhino and I are away to Adelaide/Melbourne this weekend.

But I will take you up on the offer. :woohoo:

RiderInBlack
11th September 2005, 20:48
Bloody good day considering I nearly rolled over and went back to bed. Good to see the weather was better South of the hill.
Great meeting Korumba on the ZZR. Good to have another KBer up here.
Finally meet the infamous John. You ride a lot better that you post:devil2: No getting too excite about my pic, aye. Specially when you are looking at it on your laptop in bed (very dodgey that:wait: ).
Glad Curious managed to find us @ Maungatapere. Left there 9:45 and arrive @ Wellsford 11am.
Had to laugh @ the 1000 boys from AK who were trying to workout how we got there before them:motu: They though that they were Nana riders until they worked out that we had come from Whangarei not Westgate:sherlock:

Hope JSG and Chickenfunkstar found their way back OK after coming up with the WhangaRain KB'ers.

Didn't get really wet until Korumba and I headed back up Otiaka Valley Rd and out to Ruatangata (good GC practice that was:whistle: ). John and Ant had wisely headed back to Whangarei at that time.

All in all a good day, thanks Placid:Punk:

Cibby
11th September 2005, 21:02
AYE??? When was that? Loved the little drag series at the lights in to albany!!! Did you see how much attention 5 bikes lined up at the lights gets!

To be honest (without getting an ego) i did ok today considering the shit i had on my back :violin: when you add my fat ass, and the fact that im a tad oversized for the lil old zxr it does make me looks like a half decent rider :devil2:

I might have to take that 600 of yours out for a short spin at some stage, if i dont get my own one first :motu:

I learned today that when dragging with other bikes that one doesnt not try to start out in thirdy gear, then one might have chance of keeping up with bigger bikes.. :rofl:

Oh dear.. I think the whole ride turned a few heads,, was awesome everyone!!!!! Thanks PF!!!!!

N4CR
11th September 2005, 21:19
One of my most enjoyable rides yet!

Was good seeing a few 250's, not as many as the fishshop run that BJ organised last time but still not a bad turnout.
Good to meet placid/sam finally, smorgen cibby chick and a couple of other fullas I can't remember right now.


Had a great deal of fun thrashing it round with the 600/1k's at the end :devil2: jeez you guys don't hold your corner speed that well though eh (big over compensating 'suv' bikes/engines) :rofl: :rofl: (j/k)

SP: "yeah I was just were rolling it off top gear"
while I chop and change to wring the snot outta the bike :motu:

Nice uhh... 'paintjob' mr g-dog... Go 'team milf' (can I be the test/reserve rider :D ?) p.s I need to buy those kras tubes off ya, one of mine has started cracking :/

Suppose I'll see you guys next at puke track day then eh?

edit: finally clocked my bike.... 190+ ;)

Krayy
11th September 2005, 22:48
Hmmm, let me see now....

That's one, two, three KB rides I've attended, and one, two, three trips home in a truck.

Is anyone else spotting a patterm?

Thanks to everyone who stopped and helped. I dunno what went bang. I'll go and have a look when I feel brave eough to cope with the disappointment.
No worries mate. That's all part of the group ride ethic I suppose. Dunno how the hell Gareth_D and I got to be Tail End Charlies, but I consider it to be our civic service for the week :ride:

BTW, fess up who had the idea to take the wrong turn to Riverhead township instead of Old North (how many did we lose at the first tunrnoff?) :rofl:

aff-man
11th September 2005, 23:48
One of my most enjoyable rides yet!

Was good seeing a few 250's, not as many as the fishshop run that BJ organised last time but still not a bad turnout.
Good to meet placid/sam finally, smorgen cibby chick and a couple of other fullas I can't remember right now.


Had a great deal of fun thrashing it round with the 600/1k's at the end :devil2: jeez you guys don't hold your corner speed that well though eh (big over compensating 'suv' bikes/engines) :rofl: :rofl: (j/k)

SP: "yeah I was just were rolling it off top gear"
while I chop and change to wring the snot outta the bike :motu:

Nice uhh... 'paintjob' mr g-dog... Go 'team milf' (can I be the test/reserve rider :D ?) p.s I need to buy those kras tubes off ya, one of mine has started cracking :/

Suppose I'll see you guys next at puke track day then eh?

edit: finally clocked my bike.... 190+ ;)

Listen you..... when i am NOT hung over and we are actually going for it then we'll see. We were discussing at BJ's house how the ride home was actually quite sedate. .. :clap: :clap:

But yeh good to see you actually getting some good open road skills finally :Punk: :Punk:

N4CR
12th September 2005, 01:06
Listen you..... when i am NOT hung over and we are actually going for it then we'll see. We were discussing at BJ's house how the ride home was actually quite sedate. .. :clap: :clap:

But yeh good to see you actually getting some good open road skills finally :Punk: :Punk:

Yeah I don't know why but you guys were going in faster ('Gooody we are going fast now') and then lulling around mid corner and accelling out - once or twice I had to pretty much stand the bike up so I didn't rear end some of you (that was the sudden speed difference). I'm guessing its just different engine sized sports bikes that handle differently and negotiate corners differently???

/wants SP's gixxer :love:

p.s. don't do too many water births in the SRAD compartment :rofl:

SPman
12th September 2005, 06:32
. ---I'm guessing its just different engine sized sports bikes that handle differently and negotiate corners differently???

Coz we ALL had hangovers and were riding like nanas....:psst:

placidfemme
12th September 2005, 07:31
Wow what a great turnout.

thanks to everyone that took pics... my cheap lil digi cam gave out on me in wellsford, dunno if I even got any pics :(

Anyway... 52 bikes all up... 178+/- Km's and no bins... FANTASTIC ride!!!

Sam was stoked with her first group ride, even if she did get left behind most of the time...

I will be posting a ride report later on today :)

Sorry about my slack organisation skills... big thanks to Bugjuice and Crashe for picking up my slack :)

Got a new personal best top speed of 170kph yay!

aff-man
12th September 2005, 09:55
Coz we ALL had hangovers and were riding like nanas....:psst:

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaha. :rofl: :rofl:

P.s. Cheers PF for organising the ride it was good fun.

placidfemme
12th September 2005, 09:57
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaha. :rofl: :rofl:

P.s. Cheers PF for organising the ride it was good fun.

Your welcome :) Thanks for coming... hungover and all :)

Tried keeping up with you at first then completely lost sight of you lol

crashe
12th September 2005, 10:27
Update re my fall at Wellsford McDonald's 11/9/05.

I have rung and laid a official complaint at Head Office at McDonald's.
They are going to contact me back either this arvo or tomorrow morning. They were not impressed with the Manager on duty with his dealings with me and with him not getting me to fill in a "accident report" of what happened for OSH or even checking that I was ok after my fall. Or moving the signs to a better place on the wet surface so that it didnt happen again.

They are not impressed with what he said to me either.
"Oh yeah, sorry" and "Where did it happen?" and again "Oh yeah sorry"

I am a bit sore still but will recover...
I was uncomfortable riding back to Auckland after having twisted my back in such a way when I landed. I could knew something wasn't right in my back.
I was trying to stretch a bit when riding back to take the pain away.

placidfemme
12th September 2005, 16:12
hows your back feeling today?

Heard back from them yet?

pyrocam
12th September 2005, 16:54
I didnt go on this one but my boss did and hearing from him and seeing the pics and the reports im a bit dissapointed I didnt go.

looks like all the regulars turned out for this one even the holiest spankme.

looking forward to more summer rides :)

placidfemme
12th September 2005, 16:57
I didnt go on this one but my boss did and hearing from him and seeing the pics and the reports im a bit dissapointed I didnt go.

looks like all the regulars turned out for this one even the holiest spankme.

looking forward to more summer rides :)

yah man where were you? how could anything else be more important than a ride with KB? lol

I'm thinking of organising another ride in about 2 or 3 weeks time, mainly focusing on 150's and 250's. The bigger bikes just blitz us when we ride with them.

R6_kid
12th September 2005, 17:04
I was gonna do a ride on coromandel in two weeks. Its a long day but is awesome fun, had the 250's showing the big bikes how to do it on the way up and around, but on the way back it opens out a bit and they get ahead by a fair while.

Doesnt need to be split up by bike capacity. When i tried doing that the first it was supposed to be 250's only, ended up with around 20 bikes, and only 5 were 250 or less.

aff-man
12th September 2005, 17:24
yah man where were you? how could anything else be more important than a ride with KB? lol

I'm thinking of organising another ride in about 2 or 3 weeks time, mainly focusing on 150's and 250's. The bigger bikes just blitz us when we ride with them.

Memememememe yadda yadda yadda.

We don't blitz you that much.

pyrocam
12th September 2005, 18:51
yah man where were you? how could anything else be more important than a ride with KB? lol

I'm thinking of organising another ride in about 2 or 3 weeks time, mainly focusing on 150's and 250's. The bigger bikes just blitz us when we ride with them.

tell me about it

justsomeguy
12th September 2005, 19:05
Awesome ride guys - thanks PF. :woohoo:

Decided to go on the north ride with RIB, John, Korumba, Chickenfunkstar and Antallica.:chase:

Great roads and great fun. .... the rain was a bit of a :oi-grr:....

El Dopa
12th September 2005, 19:11
Time to get a new bike mate...


Really? Ya think? :soon:

Korumba
12th September 2005, 19:35
Had a Blast, Thanks PF, and nice to meet you. Great job getting it all together!

(Must have been somewhat like herding cats at times)

Big thumbs up to R.I.B for organizing the Northern end of the ride can’t wait for the next trip.

Cheers

John
12th September 2005, 19:42
The bigger bikes just blitz us when we ride with them.

Maybe if you ride on the straight roads :ride:...

Its no fun riding with all newbies (as in small capacities) because the mental case riders like to try keep up with the bigger bikes, and I... I mean THEY love to try give the big bikes a shakeup - CC's are for the straights.

Anywho thanks again good ride Korumba make sure you turn up with a new rear tire next time :hitcher:..

Korumba
12th September 2005, 19:49
Anywho thanks again good ride Korumba make sure you turn up with a new rear tire next time :hitcher:..


Thanks Mate will do...Ill fit the Packrack and Bungie it on!
The extra weight may help stop the rear spinning in 5th while passing you...

RiderInBlack
12th September 2005, 20:07
Had a Blast, Thanks PF, and nice to meet you. Great job getting it all together!

(Must have been somewhat like herding cats at times)

Big thumbs up to R.I.B for organizing the Northern end of the ride can’t wait for the next trip.

CheersEyed some nice twisies up past your place heading to Pipwai:devil2: I wonder how far pass Pipwai they have seal? Might check them out this WE if your interested.

Korumba
12th September 2005, 20:15
Eyed some nice twisies up past your place heading to Pipwai:devil2: I wonder how far pass Pipwai they have seal? Might check them out this WE if your interested.

It turns to Metal just after Pipiwi,but havent taken the bike up to there, so sounds like fun....Im just pleased we dont have Hubcaps..cause they can nick em while the wheels are still turning up that way.

RiderInBlack
12th September 2005, 20:20
It turns to Metal just after Pipiwi,but havent taken the bike up to there, so sounds like fun....Im just please we dont have Hupcaps..cause they can nick em while the wheels still turning up that way.I wouldn'd stop there for lunch. Not unless I liked walking home naked. That's if I'm lucky, cause I think Puhia and Pakihia is still on the menu up there:wait:

Lou Girardin
13th September 2005, 11:31
Memememememe yadda yadda yadda.

We don't blitz you that much.

Yes we did.
(I really must act my age, maybe one day, not now)

placidfemme
13th September 2005, 12:42
Yes we did.
(I really must act my age, maybe one day, not now)

It's not so much an issue of being blitzed but rather, being on a smaller bike, wanting to push oneself too hard to try to keep up or summat...

Not a bad thing all the time... I dunno... but I pictured group rides as just that... "Group" rides... not a bunch of riders starting at the same point and going as fast as possible to the destination, leaving behind all the slower, less confident bikers...

Smorg
13th September 2005, 13:52
It's not so much an issue of being blitzed but rather, being on a smaller bike, wanting to push oneself too hard to try to keep up or summat...

Not a bad thing all the time... I dunno... but I pictured group rides as just that... "Group" rides... not a bunch of riders starting at the same point and going as fast as possible to the destination, leaving behind all the slower, less confident bikers...

Maybe they think their cool :psst:

I was happy just cruising on the wellsford ride, i got nothing to prove to anyone, although if your on a big bike why not do what big bikes are made for :ride: :ride: b