Fuel prices.

[Lou Girardin]

With the lastest rise, supposedly because a storm near the southeastern US oil oilfields 'may' affect production, it's come time to do something about it.
There have been amazing examples of how quickly an idea can spread via email/text, so how about emailing/ texting everybody you know and suggest a boycott of BP until the end of September.
Why BP?
Because they are invariably the first to raise prices, they are the biggest and because a yearly profit increase of up to 138% is clearly price gouging.
Let's squeeze them till they squeak for a month. It won't hurt us, there's always other brands. Then perhaps hit one of the others if there has been no response.
What do you think?

[WRT]

I'm all for it - dont shop at BP anyway. Have seen this idea spread around via email for some time, but never seems to get taken up by the general public.

So . . . I'm in, how about everyone else?

[pyrocam]

easy not to shop at BP (my poor bike wont get to eat their loverly BP ultimate but oh well)

have seen this around for some time but its nigh impossible to gauge how many people are doing it.

[crashe]

My local is BP... there is a Mobil just across the way, but find the servicee there not to good.
The other Caltex further up the road is shut and they are redoing it all up.
and riding down the other way is another BP.

Guess I am kinda stuck with BP.. and I do get AA rewards points from them as well.

[rfc85]

sweet-no BP :Punk:

[Matt Bleck]

im in :Punk:

[idb]

With the lastest rise, supposedly because a storm near the southeastern US oil oilfields 'may' affect production, it's come time to do something about it.

Only shop at Mobil me.
It all seems a bit odd. How many months/years is this storm expected to last?

[oldrider]

How big a lobby group could the whole motorcycle group ever hope to be?
What is the total number of bikes registered in NZ.
We are generally a fragmented group at the best of times. bit like the Arabs.
How many KiwiBikers are there? Just a thought. John. :mad:

[bluninja]

So how much is fuel in NZ these days??? I'm paying 90p a litre...over NZ$2.

[poorbastard]

I always hated BP anyway. Im in

[inlinefour]

Maybe they will say that due to the local boycott @ KB they have to put the price up further. At the end of the day they are going to charge whatever and we are going to pay. Either that or no more motorcycling :puke:

[SARGE]

Maybe they will say that due to the local boycott @ KB they have to put the price up further. At the end of the day they are going to charge whatever and we are going to pay. Either that or no more motorcycling :puke:


i wonder just how much the oil companies make per day.. i saw on the news last night that the wholesale price of gas is 0.69 a litre.. then you add the 0.05 tax.. the Crown gets 0.18 and ACC gets some ( DONT WE ALREADY PAY HUGE ACC LEVIES???).. i wonder just how much we could affect the market if NOBODY bought fuel for 1 day?

could be a good protest if we could get some press on it,..
(some more gouging figures.. this is sick..)
* Crown account 18.71c.

* Land transport fund 22.49c.

* ACC levy 5.78c.

* Petroleum fuels monitoring levy 0.025c.

* Local authority petroleum tax 0.66.

* GST (based on 132.9c pump price) 17.76c.

[Jackrat]

Shit,I sugested this last year an all the whingers had to say was that mum an pop operators would suffer an the big Co's would ignore it anyway.
Good idea Lou,but to many soft cocks about to make it work. :no:

[myvice]

What we need is a united front on this and more important issues, e.g.: ACC, licenses, 70k limits, cheese cutters, ACC, parking, roads, snail trait road repairs, painted lines, ACC, rego costs...

[crazylittleshit]

something needs to be done these bastards are ripping us off. :motu:

[Motohaus]

get used to it not defending them but nz has some of the cheapest petrol in the world in england they are payingf $3.00 a liter
buy the end of year we will be paying $2.00 a liter and by xmas 2006 it will be $3.00 inline with rest of world got this from friend who works in the biz
if you really want to do something get rid of fuc@#*! labour with the kioto bullshit
worry more about the wire barriers along the motorways with have just been given the go ahead to be used over concrete barriers and ualso to be used on the shoulders to protect cars from going into the colverts drains and the like

[poorbastard]

Other places in the world mite pay more for fuel but then their pay is generally alot more as well. Shit $1.47 is bloody bad enough if it gets much higher there will be no more weekend riding for me. I can barely afford it as it is. Poor student and all.

[SARGE]

Other places in the world mite pay more for fuel but then their pay is generally alot more as well. Shit $1.47 is bloody bad enough if it gets much higher there will be no more weekend riding for me. I can barely afford it as it is. Poor student and all.


i think this whole fuel prices / Kyoto Treaty thing is funny as.. back when the Kyoto thing was getting voted on.. all the Greenie Hippy fucktards were all for it .. now that its hitting them in the wallet.. they are all bitching about it..

"no Blood for oil, but i reserve the right to bitch when i have to fill up my car.."

[poorbastard]

"no Blood for oil, but i reserve the right to bitch when i have to fill up my car.."

If it keeps going up like it is I may end up having to trade blood for oil

[SARGE]

If it keeps going up like it is I may end up having to trade blood for oil


wonder if you can donate Sperm in NZ.. seems a shame to let it all go to waste like this.. :rofl:

[idb]

wonder if you can donate Sperm in NZ.. seems a shame to let it all go to waste like this.. :rofl:
Just what were you actuall doing when you wrote this?

[jimbo600]

Right on no BP. Dirty money flogging maggots

[dhunt]

It's quite interesting really as Kiwi's seem quite placid about the whole issue, sure we complain (me included) but that's as far it goes.
My parents in the Philippines were saying that they tried to put up the petrol prices there and everyone striked/protested etc and accordly they were promptly lowered again. Maybe this is more what we should do? I.e more visual, get some media coverage etc.

[froggyfrenchman]

how bout a ride? how many bikes could we get to appear at parliment? im willn to bet each kber member knows 4 or 5 non member bikers that would be up for it

[SARGE]

there IS of course an Upside to this fuel crisis...

there has never been a better time to get great deals on V8 Holdens and Falcons, Turbo Riceboy cars and 4WD's...

[scumdog]

there IS of course an Upside to this fuel crisis...

there has never been a better time to get great deals on V8 Holdens and Falcons, Turbo Riceboy cars and 4WD's...

And being the winner I am I 'only' have a grand total of 20+ litres of various engines to 'feed'
And another 7 litre one in the wings, waiting....

[Lou Girardin]

And being the winner I am I 'only' have a grand total of 20+ litres of various engines to 'feed'
And another 7 litre one in the wings, waiting....

Time for a commision based salary package.

[bugjuice]

thing is, as good as it sounds on paper, it isn't really going to work.
The easiest way for this to fail (amongst many), is that;

a) BP start dropping in sales. So they pump their prices up to compensate. Other companies see this, 'If BP can do it, so can we..', so prices go up.

b) other brands are shopped, which leaves them running low. They have to start rationing gas in areas, or buy off others, such as BP..

c) the gas stations see a protest going on, and BP being avoided. So they hike their price up to take advantage..

And that's just before my brain starts thinking, and they will do it. why? cos they have us by the short n curlies, and they know it. I hate it so much. Fucks me off beyond reason, so I try not to think about it too much, and hope I get a payrise to compensate the fuel rise. Probably won't, but hey..

The only way I can think of anything happening and being effective, is to copy what happened in the UK in 2000, where a few guys just parked their tractors in front of the oil company gates, and then everyone went mad for a few weeks, then petrol dropped in price for a while.. If people want to make a dent, you have to make a bloody big noise. These fatcats don't hear anything below a million people in a place like NZ. It took 30 million for the UK to run it dry in a few days.. Some one has to have the balls to do something more drastic, than a bunch of people avoiding a company. Plus there's not enough people to make the slightest bit of noise by avoiding BP. You'd need all of Auckland to avoid it to start with, and how would you do that? banners by their stations? on the motorway? in the newspaper?

no. we need a cunning plan. so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel..

[Postie]

the thing is, we get pissed off about our fuel prices soaring and the good old government don't help with their levies and GST, but thats life. Anyway as i was saying, the price of gas is going up in every country, not just NZ and they know that even if its double what it is now, people will still pay it as its a consumer product (to state the obvious)

anyway, heres where your hard earned green goes.

out of $20 in your tank

$9.47 is tax, that is GST, Petroleum Excise, National Land Transport Managment Fund, Petrol Fuels monitoring levy, ACC levy and Local authority tax............. or to sum up, GOVT FUCKING US.........

$8.27 is International Oil Producers Marging

$1 is the Oil Company Margin

$0.69 is the Service station margin

$0.57 is international freight and insurance...... ???? (insurance for gas???)

thuis data from this year but when fuel was $1.29 for 91 octane and taken from the MTA site.........

[Motu]

There was a hurricane in the US yesterday - today fuel goes up again...like,don't you have to buy a product at the increased price to pass it on - that fuel has been in the tanks all week.....Diesel now costs what 91 did just a few months ago.

[Lou Girardin]

thing is, as good as it sounds on paper, it isn't really going to work.
The easiest way for this to fail (amongst many), is that;

a) BP start dropping in sales. So they pump their prices up to compensate. Other companies see this, 'If BP can do it, so can we..', so prices go up.

b) other brands are shopped, which leaves them running low. They have to start rationing gas in areas, or buy off others, such as BP..

c) the gas stations see a protest going on, and BP being avoided. So they hike their price up to take advantage..

And that's just before my brain starts thinking, and they will do it. why? cos they have us by the short n curlies, and they know it. I hate it so much. Fucks me off beyond reason, so I try not to think about it too much, and hope I get a payrise to compensate the fuel rise. Probably won't, but hey..

The only way I can think of anything happening and being effective, is to copy what happened in the UK in 2000, where a few guys just parked their tractors in front of the oil company gates, and then everyone went mad for a few weeks, then petrol dropped in price for a while.. If people want to make a dent, you have to make a bloody big noise. These fatcats don't hear anything below a million people in a place like NZ. It took 30 million for the UK to run it dry in a few days.. Some one has to have the balls to do something more drastic, than a bunch of people avoiding a company. Plus there's not enough people to make the slightest bit of noise by avoiding BP. You'd need all of Auckland to avoid it to start with, and how would you do that? banners by their stations? on the motorway? in the newspaper?

no. we need a cunning plan. so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel..

1/ Price rises have never been the answer to falling sales.
2/ All oil companies buy from the same source. (Except Gull)
3/ I doubt that any of the other companies would risk being left on a limb. Don't underestimate the power of schadenfraude.

Local CEO's are still answerable for their bottom line to their parent companies, who generally do not accept excuses.

[bugjuice]

yup, well, Katrina has hiked up the prices again. News just said that 91 is now around $1.53 and 96 is $1.58.. those weekend rides are gonna be something to save for soon..

[jimbo600]

Prices up again today. I questioned this at the attendant. He merely said fill up now as they are going up again on Friday. Now they obviously have planned for this increase and will no doubt look for something else to blame the price hike on. We are being plundered by the oil companies. How do we react to this. Fuckers.

[Lou Girardin]

It's got to the stage where the oil companies are taking the piss. They think we're inured to rises so they just keep piling them on plus some extra for themselves.
Sure, crude briefly reached $US70 a barrel, but it's back to $US66.53 this morning.
When are Kiwis going to cry enough?

[skelstar]

Kiwis cant cry 'enough' all they like but where else are we going to get our fuel from. Im sure the govt isnt going to interveen. Although a preelection stand by a party may garner more votes...

[eliot-ness]

Just got an e-mail from friends in Arizona. Gas prices are predicted to rise to US$4 a gallon over there as a result of the hurricane. No good blaming politicians or BP. Looks like we're stuck with it.

[bugjuice]

k, well I still don't think stuff like this works well, but it'd be interesting to see if there were any effects on a big enough scale. Just sent this, along with probably a squillion other peeps..

<blockquote>It has been calculated that if everyone in New Zealand did not purchase
a drop of petrol for one day at all the same time the oil companies
could possibly choke on their stockpiles.

At the same time it would hit the entire industry with a net loss at the
current prices of $1.50 per litre (30 litres for a full tank) $45.00 x a
conservative estimate of 2,000,000 vehicles in NZ that would equate to
$90 million dollar loss (one day) to the oil companies and hit their
profit margins.

*Therefore September 5th has been informally declared "Stick it up their
butts day".*

*Motorists of New Zealand should not buy a single drop for that day!*

The only way this can be done if your forward this e-mail to as many
people as you can to get the word out.

Waiting on this Government to step in and control prices is not going to
happen and there is an Election coming so why not throw them into a
panic.

BOTH PARTIES HAVE REFUSED TO REMOVE THE EXTRA 0.05 CENT SURCHARGE ON
PETROL INTRODUCED ON 1st APRIL 2005.

Remember one thing about raising gas prices:


* Airlines are forced to raise their prices
* Trucking companies forced to raise their prices
* These prices affect the cost of shipping
* Flow on effect that your GROCERY BILL goes up
* Flow on effect on clothing, building, medical supplies!
* It effects all of us in every area while companies can write off
these expenses, consumers cannot.

Who pays in the end?

WE DO - The consumer!

We can make a difference if they don't get the message after one day we
will do it again and again.

Enough of these ridiculous excuses that the oil companies use to justify
their increases everything from President Bush missing a golf stroke on
the 9th hole to Aunt Fanny's artificial leg falling off.

If you are sick of this manipulation vote with your car and do not buy a
drop. Spread the word and mark the date on your calendars.

PLEASE FORWARD THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU CAN!!!!</blockquote>

[Sniper]

I wonder if we can get away with it