What Now are Right Wing Socialists!

[Coyote]

This morning, just like always I couldn't be stuffed doing anything so I turn the TV on and watch What Now. Sad, I know.

Anyway, it was their election special. They had made up this bullshit political party 'The Banana Party' and were going on about what they would do for the country, like everyone getting free bananas and 3 day weekends.

Then suddenly I was bombarded by subliminal right wing messages!

Pledge #3 for what they would do when in power: Pocket money top ups. Basically, whatever amount of pocket money you already get, they'll double it. The presenter said to this girl holding a 50 cent piece "If you already getting 50 cents a week, we'll double it and you'll get... ANOTHER 50 CENTS A WEEK!" Then the crowd cheered, and he handed over 50 cents.

But this was the good part; he asks the girl next to him "How much pocket money do you get a week?" The little girl pulls out a 10 dollar note, so he says "Then you'll get... ANOTHER 10 DOLLARS A WEEK!" Crowd cheers in the background again, and he hands over a 10 buck note to the girl.

Yay, so the poor receive less and the rich receive more!!!!!!!!!!!

So What Now is teaching the New Zealand youth Right wing ideals so when we grow up, we will vote for parties such as Act and National! What ever happened to What Now? It used to be about the toilet humour, now its all bad karaoke and capitalism.

[Jantar]

Sorry, but what you have described is LEFT wing, not right wight politics. Right wing would be if they were given the choice of how to spend their pocket money, and were given equal opportunities to earn more. Left wing is when the government GIVES more to one sector than to another. :nono:

[TwoSeven]

Yes, left wing is for lazy sods who can only get buy when people give them things and complain when other people get more. Right wing is for people that put a heck of effort into working their butt off to earn stuff and use part of it to help those that cant help themselves.

:)

[Coyote]

I hate you people

It is right wing as it is all about giving more money to the rich than the poor. What would've been more to the right is if they had taken that 50 cents away from the kid and given it to the rich one

You're probebly both for selling schools and hospitals to the private sector too aren't ya?

[Jantar]

I hate you people

It is right wing as it is all about giving more money to the rich than the poor. What would've been more to the right is if they had taken that 50 cents away from the kid and given it to the rich one

You're probebly both for selling schools and hospitals to the private sector too aren't ya?

OK, I must be missing something here. What right wing party is offering to give me anything? The two main right wing parties that I'm aware of (National and Act) haven't offered to give me anything, but both have promised to take less from me.

As for your second comment, No, I'm against selling schools and hospitals to the private sector.

[Biff]

Righ wing would have been an offer to give her an extra 50c or $10 a week, but not telling her that in return the kid would have to walk to school, her bedroom wouldn't get decorated for another 5 years, and she'd have to eat chips instead of decent food for the forseable future, as the household's economy would collapse.

[TwoSeven]

OK, I must be missing something here. What right wing party is offering to give me anything? The two main right wing parties that I'm aware of (National and Act) haven't offered to give me anything, but both have promised to take less from me.

As for your second comment, No, I'm against selling schools and hospitals to the private sector.

See - standard leftie quote. I want I want, gimmie gimmie. :)

[John]

ACC \o/

(i am not to short !! shibbyyy)

[Magua]

Isn't the term "right wing socialist" a bit of an oxymoron? Socialism being far left and Fascism being far right.

[Coyote]

Isn't the term "right wing socialist" a bit of an oxymoron? Socialism being far left and Fascism being far right.
I dunno. I kinda bulls up this whole thread anyway

EDIT: yes you were right, it was meant to be capitalists. Messed that one up didn't I?

[mstriumph]

:violin:real fun for a while though ........
I dunno. I kinda bulls up this whole thread anyway

EDIT: yes you were right, it was meant to be capitalists. Messed that one up didn't I?

[Coyote]

:violin:real fun for a while though ........
To those who didn't make an arse of themselves

[Jantar]

To those who didn't make an arse of themselves

Hey cheer up alarumba, no-one made an arse of themselves. Its only through discussions like this that facts come out and misconceptions can be laid to rest.. Rather I would comment that what you picked up initially was bloody well noticed.

[mstriumph]

EVERYBODY does that once in a while - it don't matter :grouphug:
To those who didn't make an arse of themselves

[Ixion]

Isn't the term "right wing socialist" a bit of an oxymoron? Socialism being far left and Fascism being far right.

Not all all. /me is a right wing socialist.

Socialist refers to how the means of production are owned and controlled. It is an economic term. Left wing and right wing normally pertain to sociological opinions.They are non-economic. Remember, the Nazi Fascist party's offiical name was the National *SOCIALIST* party. They were right wing socialists. A monarchist socialist is perfectly possible. God save King Francis (/me is not only a monarchist but a Jacobite to boot) ; and hurrah for the people's socialist revolution.

[Skyryder]

I hate you people

It is right wing as it is all about giving more money to the rich than the poor. What would've been more to the right is if they had taken that 50 cents away from the kid and given it to the rich one

You're probebly both for selling schools and hospitals to the private sector too aren't ya?

In the scenerio that you desribe giving more to the rich than the poor is what we call a right wing policy.

Socialism is more often used as a description of a political party who sees the peoples welfare as a priority. This may take the form of a political system that allows for no other political party as in communism. Fascism on the other hand is no different other than the leadership alighns itself with the elite and buisness sector and or military, while in keeping with it's socialist ideology. Two examples would by Hitler and National Socialist Party (NSDAP) and the Peronists of Argentinia. It is interesting to note that both these parties ideology was that of socialism and the empowerment of the working classes. Both are fascist in ideology; right wing.

Skyryder

[SPORK]

I'm a leftist hippie metal warrior of excellence, I think.

But you know what rules? If labour stay in goverment, then our household will be paying negative tax! Yuss!

[Indiana_Jones]

Did they say what they did to earn their pocket money? lol

-Indy

[Drunken Monkey]

I hate you people...

One guess as to who didn't get to click anywhere near the 100k+ button on Biff's poll the other day.

Dittums. Typical bloody poor people...Gimme gimme gimme. If I can't be rich, nobody else can...

[SPORK]

One guess as to who didn't get to click anywhere near the 100k+ button on Biff's poll the other day.
Could you please point me towards a 15 year old that could?

[Drunken Monkey]

Could you please point me towards a 15 year old that could?

One would think a 15 y.o. "rocket surgeon and demolition repairmen" would easily find contracts with remuneration in that amount ;)

[SPORK]

One would think a 15 y.o. "rocket surgeon and demolition repairmen" would easily find contracts with remuneration in that amount ;)
Touche.

Oh well. My massive $250 a month will overthrow all!

(Need more hours! You listenin', Countdown??)

[Indiana_Jones]

Touche.

Oh well. My massive $250 a month will overthrow all!

(Need more hours! You listenin', Countdown??)

COUNTDOWN THE PRICE, COUNTDOWN THE PAY!

Me and Magua know all about that, we used to work together there :)

-Indy

[Lou Girardin]

Isn't the term "right wing socialist" a bit of an oxymoron? Socialism being far left and Fascism being far right.

That's the 'Labour' party in it's present form. I'm not sure about oxys but there are a lot of morons as members.

[SPORK]

COUNTDOWN THE PRICE, COUNTDOWN THE PAY!

Me and Magua know all about that, we used to work together there :)

-Indy
Oh really? I just started. Checkouts all the way!

Nah, but I just got a pay rise. Got to love not being in the union, but still getting the benifits!

[Magua]

Oh really? I just started. Checkouts all the way!

Nah, but I just got a pay rise. Got to love not being in the union, but still getting the benifits!

I was on a dollar more than Indiana :D, as the store used to be a woolworths and so when it changed I keep all my old benefits and pay. Where as Indy had to start on like $7 or something pitifull like that when he joined. :rofl: .

[Pixie]

Not all all. /me is a right wing socialist.

(/me is not only a monarchist but a Jacobite to boot) ; and hurrah for the people's socialist revolution.
Sure you're not a trilobite?
Or worse...a cenobite?

[Pixie]

In the scenerio that you desribe giving more to the rich than the poor is what we call a right wing policy.



Skyryder
More newspeak.
none of them are giving anything,just taking different amounts

[Wolf]

Not all all. /me is a right wing socialist.

Socialist refers to how the means of production are owned and controlled. It is an economic term. Left wing and right wing normally pertain to sociological opinions.They are non-economic. Remember, the Nazi Fascist party's offiical name was the National *SOCIALIST* party. They were right wing socialists. A monarchist socialist is perfectly possible. God save King Francis (/me is not only a monarchist but a Jacobite to boot) ; and hurrah for the people's socialist revolution.
Actually, the fiscal policies of Hitler's National Socialist German Workers' Party were predominently "Centrist" - certainly a lot less "Right Wing" than most of Britain and America's goverments over the years. The Nazis were also heavily Authoritarian (State Control focus) which is a different scale altogether independant of fiscal "Left" and "Right" (e.g. The US is predominently Authoritarian Right, pre-Glasnost Russia was Authoritarian Left and Hitler was Authoritarian Centre.)

The polar opposite of Authoritarian is "Libertarian" - little or no State control over people's lives. I tend to Libertarian Left - think in terms of the Dalai Lama - though not extreme in either case (I think in certain areas there should be state control but not in others.)

[Wolf]

Sure you're not a trilobite?
Or worse...a cenobite?
I think he's old enough to have seen Trilobites...