Rear-ended and the driver tries to escape!

[tobbera]

Writing this because I'm upset as hell and to warn you about this Fucktard that is in Auckland CBD.

Today when me and my girlfriend on the back was riding along a two lane road in Auckland CBD, an oncoming car suddenly does a U-turn over double solid lines and tries to merge straight into my lane (and me!). I stay in my lane, the car driving along half way into my lane, half way in the opposing traffic lane, he starts to push me out of my lane! :eek5: I press the horn and made my presence very clear with eye contact. Didn't help, he kept jamming into me so he hit my girlfriends right leg and rear end of my bike with his front left side bumper. I come to a stop in front of him, but he takes me over to the right and drives off. By now I'm so pissed off, I gun it and chase him up, over taking him, stopping, and being rear ended again! :angry2: WTF!!?? :mad:

I was so upset, I parked my bike in front of him, went up to the driver side. He showed the courtesy to open his window and tell me I should have moved over in the first place. From there I cant remember exactly what happened or came out of my mouth. I ordered him out if his car, but he refused. I got a picture of his drivers license and told him this story is not going to end here. :brick:

I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. The bikes tail is a bit f***ed up, but that's not the worst. The worst is how vulnerable I feel on the bike, the and though of what could happened to my girlfriends leg.

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The Fucktard that could cause peoples death in traffic.

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[pete376403]

Formal complaint to the police for a start

[EJK]

Be careful, he might bomb you.

[BuzzardNZ]

That dirty fucken scum. Make sure the cunt doesn't get away with it.

[tobbera]

Yeah, that would be the natural thing to do. But is it going to make any difference? Will they actually do something other than put in the trash bin after a week?


Formal complaint to the police for a start

[FJRider]

I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. The bikes tail is a bit f***ed up, but that's not the worst. The worst is how vulnerable I feel on the bike, the and though of what could happened to my girlfriends leg.



Go see the Police and report it. Show them the photos.:yes:

Please post photo's of girlfriends legs ... :innocent:

Aside from that ... just your average day in Auckers ... I'm just glad I don't live there ... :nya: :lol:

[tobbera]

It happened somewhere along Parnell Rd, towards and close to Newmarket, riding out from the city.

[Grizzo]

Very tolerant of you not to hit the cunts teeth straight through the back of his head.:mad:
And shove pork down his neck hole:devil2:

[sil3nt]

That guy sounds like an asshole.

But have to ask why you didn't get the hell out of the situation sooner?

[tobbera]

Alright, police it is tomorrow.

Another thing that just came to my mind. The woman started to beg me to come down, "We have kids in the car!". :sick: Yeah, what the HELL do I care about that when you just deliberately put my life at risk! :bash:

[tobbera]

But have to ask why you didn't get the hell out of the situation sooner?

Yes, that bothers me too. I could have braked and let him in. But my stubbornness said "NO, I'm riding along in this lane. You cant just assume you can do an illegal U-turn and then merge straight into me." :mad:

[fridayflash]

be pressing with your complaint with the police, tell them if you dont get some action/charges against fucken 'ahmed' youll send the story to all known forms of press/media and internet bloggers

[BigAl]

That guy sounds like an asshole.

But have to ask why you didn't get the hell out of the situation sooner?

2 up on a 200, he's not going to outrun 'em.

He could have dropped back possibly, prob had to be there.

Bloody cagers

[tigertim20]

Be careful, he might bomb you.

hes got a class 5 and dangerous goods on the license, could transport a fair size bomb!

[300weatherby]

Have to admit, I have zero expectation of the law or justice system doing anything about stuff like this, and tend to react on a level some consider a touch agressively because of that, armoured fist down on the drivers mirror (smash it off!) would have been my first act upon catching up, then a grip on the windpipe and make him believe he is about to die, while delivering my tirade of abuse.

Can get you into trouble, but may save the life of another motorist, 2 or 4 wheeled.

I am utterly hate filled toward anything afgan/nth paki, allowing it to live here and drive here and it makes me worse.

Be glad you girl and you are ok, had he knocked you off, he would have pretended nothing happened and driven away.

[FJRider]

I could have braked and let him in. But my stubbornness said "NO, I'm riding along in this lane. You cant just assume you can do an illegal U-turn and then merge straight into me." :mad:

That "Stubbornness" might get you AND your girlfriend killed the NEXT time.

And you can't assume you will ALWAYS live to tell the tale ...

If you do ... you're just as (more) stupid as him ...

[vifferman]

Mohammed Ahmad could've gone all jihad on you arse, then you would have been truly fukt.:confused:

[Maakz]

This persons MO is that of a $hit driver with zero driving skills and zero respect for other road users, particularly motorcycles. I work in the Auckland CBD and used to commute on my bike until 1 week out from Christmas an Indian woman in the left hand turn lane only (where Kitchener St meets Victoria) decided to go straight ahead and literally merged into my lane en-route to the Kitchener St carpark (exits High St) where I was heading. Almost took me out and my leg. Caught up to her at the barriers which had malfunctioned, she wound down her window wanting to know why I seemed a wee bit upset with her, so I explained her driving faux pas in almost taking me out and costing me a leg-her response was that it was all my fault for being in the wrong lane and to leave her alone cos she has children in the car? WTF you stupid entitled woman. Almost took my leg off cos ur A talking on ur mobile phone and B in the wrong gawdamn lane and undercut, thank god for head checks, but Christ it was that close. Followed her intending to take her details, *555 her A$$ and give her a bollocking. Eventually she stopped at level 12. While um on the phone to the cops she calls security and says she's being stalked by a scary biker who's following, harassing, and intimidating her, AT security guy comes by 10 mins later to take in the scene (another Indian), takes one look at her and then me, then assumes i'm in the wrong and orders me to piss off. I complain to the cops and AT then go park in the regular spot I been parking in for the last 3 years, fast forward after work, come back to the bike and there's a warning notice the next time I park there they'll tow my bike cos it aint in a designated zone. My bike can't fit in the entrance to the motorcycle bay and the measly parks they do have on the lower levels, are taken up by local residents who park their scooters or cram their crotch rockets in there...bloody little Chinatown.

Long and short of it-AT & the Cops don't give a flying F*UCK. Am aghast at what happened to you and your Lady.
So GET THAT A$$hole and roast his A$$ for all its worth.
If I wasn't so concerned about flushing my career down the toilet and therefore my means of paying my bills i'd of taken another course of action. These people just don't give a F*UCK, is a so what event for them...probably evade their comeuppance like a Muslim does pork. Wished i'd have some offal and pork on me, so I coulda thrown it at her.

[Akzle]

ahh. Anger and vitriol.
Another day on kb.
Build a bridge.

And yes. Post pics of your girls legs.

And vagina.

[pritch]

This persons MO is that of a $hit driver with zero driving skills and zero respect for other road users, particularly motorcycles. .

Hi,

Interesting first post and welcome to KB. Condolences on living in Auckland. :devil2:

[SVboy]

ahh. Anger and vitriol.
Another day on kb.
Build a bridge.

And yes. Post pics of your girls legs.

And vagina.

What do you want to see a vagina for? You are a cunt already.
My condolences to the op-yes, go to the police-he cant be allowed to get away with that.

[Waihou Thumper]

What do you want to see a vagina for? You are a cunt already.



:laugh: Brilliant! Love it! Kudo's coming your way....:Punk:

[Akzle]

What do you want to see a vagina for? You are a cunt already.
My condolences to the op-yes, go to the police-he cant be allowed to get away with that.

someone will be along to tell you i dont have the depth or warmth.

Thanks though.

[kiwi cowboy]

What do you want to see a vagina for? You are a cunt already.
My condolences to the op-yes, go to the police-he cant be allowed to get away with that.

He wants to see what size is a use full cunt though and sadly its not his size:laugh:

[neels]

Did he ask if anyone was hurt? If he stopped to ascertain if there was any injury the he's done his legal duty, after that it's just your word against his unless there were witnesses for any charges by the police for driving like a fucktard.

Of course, you probably should put a claim in with your insurance company for any damage, at least make the prick pay his excess for fixing your bike.

[iranana]

To the op, that fucking sucks and glad you're ok. I don't imagine the cops will do much, especially as the photos dont really show a whole lot in themselves. Did you have any witnesses other than your girl? If all else fails, find out where he lives and slash his tyres.

[bosslady]

Hi,

Interesting first post and welcome to KB. Condolences on living in Auckland. :devil2:Look again, thats not her first post :-)

[@ndy]

Yep... As others said be very careful of over the top pride and stubbornness while riding in Auckland... It could get you killed. Mostly from foreigners (and I'm one too) that come from a very different background and get their license way too easy once in NZ.
They usually have no respect of motorcyclist or anything smaller than what they drive. That's why you see many Asians with huge SUV with L plates on them.
Its all about... " I'm bigger or faster than you, get out of my way" ... Type of mentality.

I consider myself a reasonable good driver but I was surprised when all I have to do to get my Full NZ driving license was to present my foreigner license translated and sit a silly basic True or False test. I was allowed to drive any type of vehicle in a matter of 20 minutes, pretty scary when you consider Before that I never driven/ridden on the left side in my life.

Auckland... Not my future.

[AllanB]

Meh - welcome to motorcycledom.

Move or be moved out there.

Go to police - it will be formally recorded and take gf as a witness. The police will not doubt have a chat with the driver and most importantly it will be recorded on file.


To be fair somewhere in NZ on some 'family sedan' website there is a guy complaining about the knob I saw on a motorcycle today passing straight into head on traffic........on the open road.

[Katman]

Yes, that bothers me too. I could have braked and let him in. But my stubbornness said "NO, I'm riding along in this lane. You cant just assume you can do an illegal U-turn and then merge straight into me." :mad:

That attitude will get you killed here.

[Katman]

I am utterly hate filled toward anything afgan/nth paki, allowing it to live here and drive here and it makes me worse.


Yeah, like that's really rational.

[FJRider]

What do you want to see a vagina for? You are a cunt already.


Exactly ... All he needs is a mirror ...

[haydes55]

But he was going under the speed limit.

Seriously, indians/asians etc come from countries where little vehicles give way to bigger vehicles. The driver was driving how he was trained to drive. And because NZ doesn't actually care if drivers have any level of skills, the last time he was tested for driving ability was 20years ago on a dirt toad on a 60cc scooter.

Insert Katman line "it doesn't matter if you were right if you're dead".

Either form a political party or get an MP to support a bill to actually reduce the risk of driving/riding by actually testing/training people regularly.

Or accept that it takes 2 people to crash.... Don't let people involve you in a crash.

Or vigilante justice.

[300weatherby]

Yeah, like that's really rational.

To make it more rational: Add Katman to the list.

[R650R]

After doing a 3 and a half year tour of duty as a resident professional driver in,out of and around Auckland I can confirm that once a barrage of toots and expletives as been exchanged it is standard practise to continue whatever move both parties were upset about.
You should be aware that where he comes from the most popular assassination method by the Mossad is two armed people on a motorcycle!
This incident sounds like one of those avoidable situations as others have said.
I've had my fair share of road crashes over the years through work and personal journeys, three majors and a few minors, the offending drivers have all been average joe pakeha people.
The whole race thing is one of those overstated stereotypes/urban myths, we have plenty of our own bad drivers already before the immigrants.
BTW with that class 5 and DG I'd say he probably carts containers, I wouldn't be parking that KTM near the strand after abusing him in front of his wife and kids...

[FJRider]

Insert Katman line "it doesn't matter if you were right if you're dead".


Or accept that it takes 2 people to crash.... Don't let people involve you in a crash.


Or vigilante justice.

You don't need Katman to tell you it's a bad idea to play chicken with a car if you're on a motorbike ... :pinch:

Many manage to successfully crash on their own ... but expecting others NOT to crash into YOU because YOU are in the right ... is just plainly stupid.

Vigilante justice actions ... can tend to bite you in the ass. On the odd occasion things don't work out just how your (not very well thought out) plan was supposed to go ...

[BuzzardNZ]

Vigilante justice actions ... can tend to bite you in the ass.

Worked out just fine for Charles Bronson in Death Wish :eek:

[SNF]

Glad you are both okay.

Sounds like vehicular assault. Obviously had seen you, who the fuck does a U-turn into someone? Gather evidence, get pics, make sure the cops do something about it - drag him through hell backwards! Hopefully something good will happen like no license for a long time.

[unstuck]

Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

:whistle:

[nerrrd]

Yeah make a formal complaint but don't expect too much.

I had a similar coming together with a van back in the day pushing past me in a single lane after I'd undertaken him at a two lane intersection. Made a formal complaint, eventually got a phone call, was asked if I'd abused the van driver during/after the incident, said well yeah, I swore at him in my helmet, and was told that there was no point in pursuing it because he might lay a complaint against me, have a nice day.

So the impression I got was that no-one was particularly interested. Who knows, you might get someone who will make the effort to track this guy down and get a good outcome for you (and the rest of us). Don't be surprised if he lays a complaint against you for threatening behaviour - I don't think you can claim provocation as a defence.

But like everyone else has said, better to be wronged and in one piece than right and injured (or worse) - and should you be making that decision for your pillion as well? Easy for us to say with hindsight and a bit of distance, but something to consider if you find yourself in the same situation again.

[mrchips]

Tobbera..... on the bright side, you live to ride another day.

Unfortunately there's plenty more where that came from.

Sent from my GT-I9300T using Tapatalk

[avgas]

BTW with that class 5 and DG I'd say he probably carts containers, I wouldn't be parking that KTM near the strand after abusing him in front of his wife and kids...
On that note - complain to the cops. If that gets no where - find his boss and complain.
He has pretty much lost his job if you get to see the day in court. Not only will they remove his license - but he will get a criminal conviction and find it very hard to drive a truck.

[avgas]

Also...
http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=FHK980

[unstuck]

- but he will get a criminal conviction and find it very hard to drive a truck.

I have a long list of criminal convictions, and find it really easy to drive a truck.:bleh:

[awayatc]

Also...
http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=FHK980


Buying his car...?

that will teach him................

[awayatc]

licence 1,2,3,4,5...?
For the 50 cents it cost you there to buy a "licence" you may as well tick all the boxes......

Police?............
What are they gonna do...?
Was the driver speeding....?


Pissed off?
how come then that at the very least Achmed wasn't wearing his wing mirrors around his neck?

whatever you choose to be, or do, you got to be or do it with a bit more conviction...........
just blabbering about it won't make any difference neither to him nor you......

[R650R]

On that note - complain to the cops. If that gets no where - find his boss and complain.
He has pretty much lost his job if you get to see the day in court. Not only will they remove his license - but he will get a criminal conviction and find it very hard to drive a truck.

LOL you don't know the industry very well or haven't mixed with many truck drivers then. That "must pass criminal background check" fluff you see in ads is just for appearances for many companies along with "must have current DG endorsement" or willing to stash it in the toolbox...

If it does end up in court all he will get is $150 for failing to stop in time. You wont be able to muster enough evidence to prove he deliberately hit you and it all appears low speed, no injury.

[James Deuce]

The OP managed this horribly badly and has made a giant mountain out of a molehill. If you don't, a. learn to avoid this sort of situation in the first place and, b. let it go, you will get yourself and your girlfriend killed. It's not worth dying over someone else's real or imagined incompetence.

Get. Some. Training.

[BadSarah]

And shove pork down his neck hole:devil2:

doing that will prevent him going to "heaven", or whatever they call it, he'd have to make a trip to mecca to be blessed before he can do the suicide bomb thing

[iranana]

Everyone here is pretty spot on when they say it was an avoidable situation. I've learnt over the years that there's no point in fighting with cagers. many of them are cunts and will do what they'll do. I learnt my lesson after i got cheeky with this dude who was presumably on meth. It's a bit of a long story but he basically tailgated/undertook/nearly hit me, so I got cheeky with him. But...he chased me down, overtook me (on a blind corner, too), cut me off by parking across the road, got out of his car in the middle of the road and charged at me beating his chest. I'm not kidding, it was mental and at this point I was seriously concerned he was going to beat the shit out of me. I high tailed it out of there pretty damn quick (ran a couple of red lights) and hid in a car park. didn't ride for the next week, and I was paranoid for months.... let sleeping dogs lie, it's just plain not worth it. you don't have much evidence, you wronged him as much as he wronged you... in my earlier post i did say the cops, won't do much, and i still don't think they will, but you live and learn eh

[quickbuck]

I empathised with the OP right up to the point he said, "NO, this is my lane...." Okay, the car driver made a mistake. We ALL do! If you don't believe that you are mistaken. Let it go, and move on. It all should have ended right there.

As James Deuce said, get some training. You can do an ACC subsidised course for $50. Just click on the ProRider banner in my signature for details.

I seriously hope you learn from this and don't end up hurt or killed.

Sent from my Nokia using Tapa talk.

[caspernz]

Road rage is essentially subordinating ones' life to a stranger. (Quoted from Denis Waitley)

Yes I can understand the described situation, and it must have been hard to imagine that letting the drongo driver in was a 2 second inconvenience, for the red mist had already clouded the OP's thinking. We've all been guilty of that at times of course.

Right or wrong had nothing to do with the situation described by the OP, it was just about ego. Oh well, plenty of fellas with a big ego in the cemetery...

[Mike.Gayner]

who the fuck does a U-turn into someone?

The cops do.

[Smifffy]

Weird. I had a very similar experience in Taupo on Friday. Rubbish truck ahead on opposite side of road wanting to merge into our lane, was already sitting halfway across other lane. Gave way to the car in front of me, then started pulling out right onto me. Clearly he'd seen the car and decided he was going to pull around as soon as it had passed.

I'd had my eye on him, moved a little, tooted a bit and he stopped, and did the "yeah I'm a dumb cunt and SMIDSY" wave, and I carried on my way. I guess I should have just let him run me over since I was in the right?

Afterwards I never bothered to mention it to anyone.


Maybe not so similar after all.

[TheDemonLord]

I was having a thought on this sort of subject the Other day:

What if Bikers were allowed to have Medieval Jousting Lances with the tips aimed at Drivers head heights? After a few Smidsy type incidents where the result was the Cage Driver got a giant lance through their head - maybe Car Drivers might start thinking along these lines:

"I should look out for Bikes, cause if I pull a dumb fuck move - I might get a Lance through my head and Die"

as opposed to the current thought process of:

"herp Derper Duuuuuuuur"

Is just a thought at the moment.

[James Deuce]

I'm also leaping to conclusions here, but KTM Duke 200 plus a relatively recent joining date on KB - I hope the OP's license conditions allow a pillion or a visit to the Police with this story as well as the self-confessed reckless riding may not end well.

[tobbera]

Many different thoughts from posters.

Some comments:

Yes, anyone can make a mistake. But deliberately drive into someone. Twice! No no, that's just pure evil. Even when I had stopped him, he didn't make any effort to take any blame.

Yes, I partly blame myself for letting me be provoked. The rational thing would be to just brake and let him go. But the fact that I didn't, does not excuse him to jam into me. He should have stopped where he was, when there was no room for him to merge in after doing his stupid U-turn. It would make him look like a dork standing still in the opposing lane, but that's the price of making "mistakes". Been there, done that.

I have a full license since 4 years. Done track days and rider training. Driven everything from 50cc scooter to GSXR750 race prepped. Daily driver is my Duke 200, weekender Hornet 900.

[Katman]

Yes, I partly blame myself for letting me be provoked. The rational thing would be to just brake and let him go. But the fact that I didn't, does not excuse him to jam into me. He should have stopped where he was, when there was no room for him to merge in after doing his stupid U-turn. It would make him look like a dork standing still in the opposing lane, but that's the price of making "mistakes". Been there, done that.


I see tears in your tea leaves.

[caspernz]

I see tears in your tea leaves.

That's mighty positive today Katman! I was expecting something a bit more somber...try harder next time would you :wings:

[pzkpfw]

This was the bit that amazed me: "By now I'm so pissed off, I gun it and chase him up, over taking him, stopping, and being rear ended again!"

So the guy proves he's a dick, and you go park your bike in front of him?

Maybe following, to memorise plate # to make a complaint with the cops without doing anything to make the cops think it's a 50-50 situation, was the thing to do.

[tigertim20]

On that note - complain to the cops. If that gets no where - find his boss and complain.
He has pretty much lost his job if you get to see the day in court. Not only will they remove his license - but he will get a criminal conviction and find it very hard to drive a truck.

bwahahahahaha, You are kidding right?
One bloke I worked with at a furniture company locally was a class 5 driver, and had lost his licence for drink driving FOUR TIMES, in a VERY short space of time. every time while working for the same employer. every offence occurred while ON the job, driving a company truck. Every time, (bar one) the truck he was in at the time was loaded with someone's entire collection of worldly possessions.

He only lost his job after the last one, and even then it was only because the judge said he was losing his licence for over a year this time, and the company didn't want to be paying driver's wages to what would effectively be a labourer for over a year.

and that's far from the only horror story of drivers with class 2, 4 or 5 on their licences that I have known to be still allowed to legally drive (and remain employed) despite some horiffic driving history. another in the same company has had three accidents in 15 years that have resulted in the death of another (one a motorcyclist).

I won't name the company in case I get in the shit, but they are nationwide and the trucks are white . . .

[Smifffy]

Many different thoughts from posters.

Some comments:

Yes, anyone can make a mistake. But deliberately drive into someone. Twice! No no, that's just pure evil. Even when I had stopped him, he didn't make any effort to take any blame.

Yes, I partly blame myself for letting me be provoked. The rational thing would be to just brake and let him go. But the fact that I didn't, does not excuse him to jam into me. He should have stopped where he was, when there was no room for him to merge in after doing his stupid U-turn. It would make him look like a dork standing still in the opposing lane, but that's the price of making "mistakes". Been there, done that.

I have a full license since 4 years. Done track days and rider training. Driven everything from 50cc scooter to GSXR750 race prepped. Daily driver is my Duke 200, weekender Hornet 900.

How is your girlfriend's leg?

[avgas]

LOL you don't know the industry very well or haven't mixed with many truck drivers then. That "must pass criminal background check" fluff you see in ads is just for appearances for many companies along with "must have current DG endorsement" or willing to stash it in the toolbox...

If it does end up in court all he will get is $150 for failing to stop in time. You wont be able to muster enough evidence to prove he deliberately hit you and it all appears low speed, no injury.
If you lose one licence.....you lose the lot and unless your gonna push a 40ft container your fucked.
He hit you - that is dangerous driving causing harm. That's 6 months license disqualification. All licenses.

Very illegal to fill out your log book in a Semi with no license. Which is investigated at the end of the year. OSH requires it of all freight firms (but most do a 3 year check).

So yeah I know a little bit about trucks and drivers. Good bunch of blokes (most of em).

[avgas]

I see tears in your tea leaves.
What fucking horrible chamomile do you drink? Brine?

[James Deuce]

I have a full license since 4 years. Done track days and rider training. Driven everything from 50cc scooter to GSXR750 race prepped. Daily driver is my Duke 200, weekender Hornet 900.

So you're not a n00b and you still thought you'd brake test an incompetent in a car from a culture where the bigger the vehicle, the more right of way you get, with your girlfriend between you and the car. I'd suggest that the policeman taking that report may frown a little.

[avgas]

licence 1,2,3,4,5...?
For the 50 cents it cost you there to buy a "licence" you may as well tick all the boxes......
Nothing special - means he has the ability drive a very big truck in his home country......which translates to 5 steps of licence here.
So this guy probably drove a Kamaz with 16 speed and a trailer at home and now he has free reign over everything when he transfer his license here.

We can clearly see a 7 seater van is outside of his driving ability.

[jasonu]

Get. Some. Training.

IAMS maybe.

[James Deuce]

IAMS maybe.

Definitely. The Chicken and Vegetables one is really good.

[Mike.Gayner]

By now I'm so pissed off, I gun it and chase him up, over taking him, stopping, and being rear ended again! :angry2: WTF!!?? :mad:

WTF were you thinking? You got exactly what you deserve, and were a huge contributor to this incident. You're on a slow bike and you have another person's life in your hands - if someone is driving like a psycho, back the fuck off. The fact that you risked your girlfriend's well-being says a lot about the kind of person you are.

[caspernz]

WTF were you thinking? You got exactly what you deserve, and were a huge contributor to this incident. You're on a slow bike and you have another person's life in your hands - if someone is driving like a psycho, back the fuck off. The fact that you risked your girlfriend's well-being says a lot about the kind of person you are.

Once the girlfriend wises up and dumps him, he'll be ordering an inflatable girlfriend :rolleyes:

[Indiana_Jones]

The Sheik he drove his Cadillac.....

http://www.constructionphotography.com/ImageThumbs/A033-00232/3/A033-00232_Arab_man_driving_car_whilst_using_mobile_pho ne_Dubai_United_Arab_Emirates.jpg

-Indy

[Grubber]

I have a long list of criminal convictions, and find it really easy to drive a truck.:bleh:

Sorry but you wouldn't get a job with me. Bit fussy about who we have working for us.

[unstuck]

Sorry but you wouldn't get a job with me. Bit fussy about who we have working for us.

Fair enough, probably wouldn't want to work with a company with that attitude anyway.:2thumbsup

[Grubber]

If you lose one licence.....you lose the lot and unless your gonna push a 40ft container your fucked.
He hit you - that is dangerous driving causing harm. That's 6 months license disqualification. All licenses.

Very illegal to fill out your log book in a Semi with no license. Which is investigated at the end of the year. OSH requires it of all freight firms (but most do a 3 year check).

So yeah I know a little bit about trucks and drivers. Good bunch of blokes (most of em).

Thanks1 I think we are too.
There is not may companies now days that don't play ball. TSL's are getting harder to come by now, you have to be squeeky clean at most points now days to operate.
Road side checks daily now are putting the cowboys out of business real quick. Random drug tests in 90% of all transport companies. Not much that isn't checked.:niceone:

[Grubber]

Fair enough, probably wouldn't want to work with a company with that attitude anyway.:2thumbsup

What attitude ..... Legal???
For your info we have a top reputation in our field. We have not one claim in 2 years and not one abusive phone call about drivers. We pay well above standard rate and we have the best of the best drivers....this is why you wouldn't get a job, we would be far too good to have you.
Attitude is....we want to be the best at what we do...whats your attitude?

[unstuck]

What attitude ..... Legal???
For your info we have a top reputation in our field. We have not one claim in 2 years and not one abusive phone call about drivers. We pay well above standard rate and we have the best of the best drivers....this is why you wouldn't get a job, we would be far too good to have you.
Attitude is....we want to be the best at what we do...whats your attitude?

Never had a bad word said about my work.:niceone:
Personal life, different story.:msn-wink:
I work with a heap of different people from all walks of life, and choose who I do work for carefully, so can understand where your coming from. I employ people based on their ability to do the job, not their past. Each to their own though aye. If it works for you, and your successful, good for you.:niceone:

[pritch]

Yes, I partly blame myself for letting me be provoked.

Well I seem to recall that when I was a lot younger I used to have the odd rush of testosterone when driving in Wellington, and have on rare occasions swung the boot at a car. It's best to check though that you are in fact wearing boots and not sneakers, and that you do have an escape route.

These days though things have changed, cars have side intrusion beams too close to the spot on the door that you'd aim a kick at. And if I have a rush of anything it's probably just a reminder to take my blood pressure meds. :doctor:

[tobbera]

Regarding the comments on me taking him over and getting rear ended again, putting me and my gf in more risk etc. I think you have misinterpreted the situation a bit. The speed was quite low, about 30 kmh. I took him over and slowed down, came to a halt. He slowed down as well, but let his car bump into me. The alternative was to just let him drive of from the accident scene where he hit me from behind in the first place. At that time, in that situation, in that particulate case, I chose to do what I did.

My gf leg is alright, she just felt the bumper when the car merged into us and I braked.

[James Deuce]

All he had to do was accelerate and his immediate stress would have been relieved. Never make decisions on a motorcycle, in traffic, based on hope, supposition, and rage. You were very lucky he stopped.

I was once rear-ended by the gang-member to who had earlier removed my brother-in-law's right arm and leg while driving under the influence. His argument was that someone on a sportsbike cut him up and made him brake hard and his daughter flew from the back seat into the dashboard and hurt her head. I turned onto the main road a long time after the incident but this dickhead was still in pursuit and decided I was the guy who did it. I slowed for a truck pulling onto the road and he rammed me. He was about to deal to me while I was on the ground and the truckie dealt to him instead.

Never trust other road users to do the rational thing, especially when you've engaged the red mist. You need help with that attitude. Just because it worked out for you this time doesn't mean it will work in future. Other road users aren't worth a single point raise in systolic blood pressure.

[oldrider]

If that guy stopped and was prepared to discuss the incident with you to the point of presenting his licence etc for you to photograph it, then I would say that he was not hostile to the situation and from what you have told the thread, you did not help the situation at all! :no:

Just sayin based on this thread! Kinda like takin a knife to a gun fight! ... Bang beats cut, every time in my experience! ... Just sayin! :mellow:

[aderino4]

Luckily we didn't end up with what happened in NYC
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html

Reading through the situation, they are very similar.

A minor incident of car brushing a bike and the motorcyclist over-reacted.

Have you recently look at yourself in the mirror while wearing your gears (helmet, jacket, gloves)?
And thought to yourself "I look cool". But from a non-rider perspective you can actually look quite intimidating. Not to mention in you have tinted visor and black leather jacket with possibly some patches (even a Snoopy patch).

Now imagine if you're the car driver. You have just pulled an illegal U-turn; you may not realise you've done something wrong. Then this motorcyclist that wasn't registered in your mind. Because research has shown that due to the size, motorcycle often is not registered in driver's mind.
Suddenly you heard this roar of a mighty single cylinder that sounds like a V8 in the driver's mind coming next to you then in front of you and stopped in the middle of the road. Blocking traffic on a busy road (up parnell rise)
He probably wasn't expecting you to stop completely since it's a busy road and people generally keep driving on the road.

Sorry OP but you over-reacted and you need to take a chill pill.

As other said, ride defensively, otherwise you're no better than cyclist who weaves in and out of traffic, ignore red light or ride 3 abreast on the road.

[James Deuce]

Comparing him to a cyclist was cruel.

[tobbera]

If that guy stopped and was prepared to discuss the incident with you to the point of presenting his license etc for you to photograph it, then I would say that he was not hostile to the situation and from what you have told the thread, you did not help the situation at all! :no:

Have you even read the thread? The guy takes off after deliberately hitting me. The only reason he stopped was because I parked in front of him at a place on the road where he could not drive around me. The only reason he took out his license was probably because I looked (and acted, and talked) like I would behead him if he didn't. If ha had a choice, he would just take off.

[Katman]

Have you even read the thread? The guy takes off after deliberately hitting me. The only reason he stopped was because I parked in front of him at a place on the road where he could not drive around me. The only reason he took out his license was probably because I looked (and acted, and talked) like I would behead him if he didn't. If ha had a choice, he would just take off.

I suggest you quit while you're behind.

[buggerit]

Have you even read the thread? The guy takes off after deliberately hitting me. The only reason he stopped was because I parked in front of him at a place on the road where he could not drive around me. The only reason he took out his license was probably because I looked (and acted, and talked) like I would behead him if he didn't. If ha had a choice, he would just take off.

In his defence did you see his Mrs AND the map on her lap,the poor barstard was probably trying to commit suicide and hoping you had a knife

[Tazz]

A minor incident of car brushing a bike and the motorcyclist over-reacted.

So basicly your stance on this is 'what's a casual rear ending between strangers?' You're living loose. Power to ya and all that :p

None of us were there so naturally we are all experts, but I think merging into the BACK part of someones vehicle is a bit different from not seeing them side on or just behind. It's really not that hard to be a dick and force yourself into a gap without hitting other traffic if you want too. I'm sure anyone who commutes on motorways sees it happen everyday...

[Akzle]

wow. What a lot of butthurt.
I hate to think what would have** happened if he'd adjusted your brakes...

[aderino4]

So basicly your stance on this is 'what's a casual rear ending between strangers?' You're living loose. Power to ya and all that :p

None of us were there so naturally we are all experts, but I think merging into the BACK part of someones vehicle is a bit different from not seeing them side on or just behind. It's really not that hard to be a dick and force yourself into a gap without hitting other traffic if you want too. I'm sure anyone who commutes on motorways sees it happen everyday...

The ideal situation would be to let the car go in front of him. As the OP said, he saw the car but decided to keep going on his lane rather then giving the car a chance to "merge illegally" in front of him.

We cannot determine beyond reasonable doubt where the OP bike is placed within his lane or at which point the car enter his lane after doing the illegal u-turn.

From reading the thread it's a case of 2 parties and none willing to yield whether deliberately or not.

I looked at the picture and see no noticeable damage on the bike, so it can't be hit very hard to warrant rough altercation in the middle of the road.

It's not a pleasant experience to be touched by stranger; but always look at both sides of the situation. My point is that I think the situation can be handled better with less amount of aggression and perceived intimidation.

Looking at the responses, it seems that some people agree with me that the OP has over-reacted
Some think that the car driver need better education
Some just randomly shout out/ given "example" highlighting the sad reality state of racism

If it ever gets to court, the car driver will be fined for performing illegal u-turn, possibly crossing the yellow line.
The motorcyclist will be fined for stopping illegally in the middle of the road
Each gets fine and everyone goes on their merry way.

[unstuck]

They say two wrongs don't make a right
Well maybe that is true
But I can't describe the feeling I get
When I take revenge on you

Suicidal Tendencies.:Punk::Punk:

[Smifffy]

It's not a pleasant experience to be touched by stranger; but always look at both sides of the situation.

I told her that, but she still wanted to press charges.....

[Marmoot]

I told her that, but she still wanted to press charges.....

Pics or it didn't happen!
Solely for research purpose, of course

[oldrider]

Have you even read the thread? The guy takes off after deliberately hitting me. The only reason he stopped was because I parked in front of him at a place on the road where he could not drive around me. The only reason he took out his license was probably because I looked (and acted, and talked) like I would behead him if he didn't. If ha had a choice, he would just take off.

Frankly I don't think you did much for Kiwi/new citizen/tourist relations or even more importantly "motorcyclists"!

The guy did you wrong and you (and your passenger) were fortunate not to be badly injured .. then you continued to place both of you in danger, "repeatedly"!

What planet do you think you are on? An average kiwi guy would have got out of the car and laid you out for behaving the way you did .. right or wrong!

For all the right reasons I am on your side but for all the wrong reasons I think you acted like a pratt and got out of it lightly. JMHO dude!

[Smifffy]

Frankly I don't think you did much for Kiwi/new citizen/tourist relations or even more importantly "motorcyclists"!

The guy did you wrong and you (and your passenger) were fortunate not to be badly injured .. then you continued to place both of you in danger, "repeatedly"!

What planet do you think you are on? An average kiwi guy would have got out of the car and laid you out for behaving the way you did .. right or wrong!

For all the right reasons I am on your side but for all the wrong reasons I think you acted like a pratt and got out of it lightly. JMHO dude!

Probably would have shoved the camera up his arse too. NO. Sorry John not likely in the PC barista infected supercity of the modern NZ. Probably wouldn't even happen in Tokoroa these days.

[aderino4]

Just for the sake of dragging the thread.

To answer your original question, you can contact your insurance company if you need the damage repair; if they deemed it to be not your fault based on your story, the other party story and the picture then there shouldn't be any excess to pay.
Especially since you have full details of the other driver (license and car rego in photos)

However it may go the other way since they can fault you for stopping illegally in the middle of the road.
I don't have the expertise or enough knowledge of the situation to tell you which way it will go, the insurance assessor will be the one that will make that call.

Secondly, I can't actually see any damage on your bike on the pictures that you have posted.
It could be due to angle, distance and lighting of the photo.

[Mike.Gayner]

Secondly, I can't actually see any damage on your bike on the pictures that you have posted.
It could be due to angle, distance and lighting of the photo.

Or because any damage (or even any contact at all) was entirely fabricated by the OP to bolster his idiotic story.

[haydes55]

From a legal perspective, the driver could get raped by a policeman who gave a shit about road safety (hahahahahahahaha :killing me:). And the rider legally only acted in a reasonable (legal term, questionable in reality) way to obtain the details of the fleeing offender.

If this saw court, charges against special needs guy in the car; illegal u turn, crossing yellow line, careless use of a motor vehicle, failing to stop at an accident scene.

Bike rider could be charged with stopping in the middle of the road if the cops were paid enough money by the driver.

Legally, I side with the rider in every sense. I'd like to say I'd act differently, but in all honesty I think I would have just abused him for a minute then go on my way, after avoiding contact.

I vote for calling the cops and insisting on laying charges "feared for your life" "such unsafe driving there is no doubt he will kill someone in a crash, if it ever happens I will be publishing this story in the papers saying how cops don't actually care about reducing the road toll". Over react, cops love that shit haha

[FJRider]

Have you even read the thread? The guy takes off after deliberately hitting me.

AFTER ... you deliberately continued to ride (with your girlfriend sitting behind you) where you knew he wanted to be ... (Does your girlfriend not understand that)


You are well off the moral high ground here ... don't put yourself in harms way. Police would just ask "Why didn't you just get out of his way .. ???" if it all turned to custard and either (or both) of you were seriously hurt ... (They would ask that if you made a complaint even)

Being "In the RIGHT" is no guarantee things will always end in your favour ...

[tobbera]

Frankly I don't think you did much for Kiwi/new citizen/tourist relations or even more importantly "motorcyclists"!
The guy did you wrong and you (and your passenger) were fortunate not to be badly injured .. then you continued to place both of you in danger, "repeatedly"!
What planet do you think you are on? An average kiwi guy would have got out of the car and laid you out for behaving the way you did .. right or wrong!
For all the right reasons I am on your side but for all the wrong reasons I think you acted like a pratt and got out of it lightly. JMHO dude!

What? "For behaving like I did?" I get hit from behind by a car that then takes off from the incident scene, and "a regular kiwi guy would have got out of the car and laid you out for behaving the way you did"? Don't really get what you are trying to say.:crazy:

[Smifffy]

What? "For behaving like I did?" I get hit from behind by a car that then takes off from the incident scene, and "a regular kiwi guy would have got out of the car and laid you out for behaving the way you did"? Don't really get what you are trying to say.:crazy:

I think what he is trying to say is in the mythical age of the archetypical kiwi bloke, before the internet and immigration turned everyone into metrosexuals, an encounter such as the one that you have described would have resulted in at least one participant receiving a busted lip.

The police may have arrived and bludgeoned you both with batons, written you both tickets and sent you on your way.

Those days are gone, and they aren't coming back, unless you get in quick and vote for Winston.

The bit about the cops batoning people isn't gone though, they still love that shit. It just gets more difficult because metrosexuals video/photograph them with their phones.

[oldrider]

I think what he is trying to say is in the mythical age of the archetypical kiwi bloke, before the internet and immigration turned everyone into metrosexuals, an encounter such as the one that you have described would have resulted in at least one participant receiving a busted lip.

The police may have arrived and bludgeoned you both with batons, written you both tickets and sent you on your way.

Those days are gone, and they aren't coming back, unless you get in quick and vote for Winston.

The bit about the cops batoning people isn't gone though, they still love that shit. It just gets more difficult because metrosexuals video/photograph them with their phones.

Yep something pretty similar to that! :yes:

[FJRider]

... Don't really get what you are trying to say.:crazy:

Maybe ...

If you ride like like a self centered prat ... Who relies on legislation as it is written ... to keep yourself (and your girlfriend) safe ... chances are you (both) won't be ..

[SNF]

Sometimes all you can do is call them a cunt/give bird/horn/rev motor +150 points for all....... and then just carry on. Maybe hope and pray they learn to drive as well?