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djgmt
3rd February 2014, 15:10
Hello Im new to this forum so would like to get some feedback..Im from South Africa and have been ridding since i was a baby. My family are all riders and are part of different Bike clubs..my step dad is vice pres of the hell razors and my mother sectary..friends are Iron order,Gypsy Jokers ect..Im looking at coming up with a new club over here not gang but for people that like to go on breakfast runs,rallies and club meets..I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
Scouse
3rd February 2014, 15:15
Hi Greg are your 5 other friends and their partners able to spell better than you?
djgmt
3rd February 2014, 15:21
Hi Greg are your 5 other friends and their partners able to spell better than you?
Way to make a new guy feel welcome. Your a legend
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3rd February 2014, 15:24
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Bikemad
3rd February 2014, 15:27
Way to make a new guy feel welcome. Your a legend
dude....have a look around and when you have found ya sense of humour bring it along with ya to the keyboard next time..........ya gonna need it round here mate!
Welcome
Bikemad
3rd February 2014, 15:30
I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches.
actually disregard my previous post...........it seems you do have a sense of humour after all:innocent:
Scouse
3rd February 2014, 15:33
Way to make a new guy feel welcome. Your a legendNah man just asking, and I didn't mean to make you feel like a dumb cunt what can't spell so please except my apologies.
djgmt
3rd February 2014, 15:35
actually disregard my previous post...........it seems you do have a sense of humour after all:innocent:
LOL not NZ made up ones..There are hundreds of bike clubs in South Africa and it is so nice to go to events and rallies with like minded people. They all set rules and go by them and it works really well. not saying the same will go for here. Thats why im asking what people think.
The Reibz
3rd February 2014, 15:37
Banditios MC has just set up in Dunners and Ivers.
5150
3rd February 2014, 15:43
This thread could get interresting :corn:
scumdog
3rd February 2014, 15:58
LOL not NZ made up ones..There are hundreds of bike clubs in South Africa and it is so nice to go to events and rallies with like minded people. They all set rules and go by them and it works really well. not saying the same will go for here. Thats why im asking what people think.
"Rulez? we don't need no stinking rules":shifty:
jellywrestler
3rd February 2014, 16:03
I want to follow proper gang rules,ranks and patches.
Thanks Greg
fixed it for you.
jellywrestler
3rd February 2014, 16:04
Way to make a new guy feel welcome. Your a legend
He's correct, it should be you're a Legend.
ital916
3rd February 2014, 16:05
Hello Im new to this forum so would like to get some feedback..Im from South Africa and have been ridding since i was a baby. My family are all riders and are part of different Bike clubs..my step dad is vice pres of the hell razors and my mother sectary..friends are Iron order,Gypsy Jokers ect..Im looking at coming up with a new club over here not gang but for people that like to go on breakfast runs,rallies and club meets..I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
If you're running a 3 piece with rockers and territory on it, then you'll have to run it by the clubs in Auckland, depends where you are, e.g. Headhunters out ellerslie etc.
If you're just a social club with a single piece patch then you shouldn't have a problem, the MC's know the difference. If you're running a 3 piece, you'll have to get "permission".
Not concrete but what I have been told by a few bike club members.
nodrog
3rd February 2014, 16:06
You can join me and my newly formed club for a beer at Garnet Station in Westmere on Saturday afternoon. We will be the guys wearing the Sons of Anarchy, Devonport chapter hoodies.
Mo NZ
3rd February 2014, 16:21
This thread could get interresting :corn:
Himmm . yeah I agree.
skippa1
3rd February 2014, 17:36
Himmm . yeah I agree.
They might ride Harley's, that'll fuck you up
Mo NZ
3rd February 2014, 18:33
Maybee ;)
Not all of them ride the Harley Beasts.
Bin having fun on another thread.
Bit like a clockwork toy really. Finished with that one.
skippa1
3rd February 2014, 18:39
Maybee ;)
Not all of them ride the Harley Beasts.
Bin having fun on another thread.
Bit like a clockwork toy really. Finished with that one.
What you mean is you got stuck in to some guys that gave you a scare and you claim they rode Harley's. Now they have called you on it, you have backed down. Cunt
ricardohardo
3rd February 2014, 19:04
Banditios MC has just set up in Dunners and Ivers.
Oh fantastical, do you suppose they would be open to learner riders, I have a gn250...this club sounds cool, how do I join ?
.
Mo NZ
3rd February 2014, 19:06
What you mean is you got stuck in to some guys that gave you a scare and you claim they rode Harley's. Now they have called you on it, you have backed down. Cunt
Really. :laugh:
With 150 posts and 3400 views. Nah.
Just done with it.
skippa1
3rd February 2014, 19:11
Really. :laugh:
With 150 posts and 3400 views. Nah.
Just done with it.
Cool story bro.....
300weatherby
3rd February 2014, 19:12
Hello Im new to this forum so would like to get some feedback..Im from South Africa and have been ridding since i was a baby. My family are all riders and are part of different Bike clubs..my step dad is vice pres of the hell razors and my mother sectary..friends are Iron order,Gypsy Jokers ect..Im looking at coming up with a new club over here not gang but for people that like to go on breakfast runs,rallies and club meets..I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
You should look up Smoky, you'n him could share a tyre or two and some gasoline....... unless you're a darkie of course........
jellywrestler
3rd February 2014, 19:16
You can join me and my newly formed club for a beer at Garnet Station in Westmere on Saturday afternoon. We will be the guys wearing the Sons of Anarchy, Devonport chapter hoodies.
you're such a skinny cunt you're be a life member of Sons of Anorexia aren't you?
_Shrek_
3rd February 2014, 19:26
I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
:whocares: just do it & see what happens & we will watch from here :apint:
nodrog
3rd February 2014, 19:34
you're such a skinny cunt you're be a life member of Sons of Anorexia aren't you?
that hurt my feeling.
phill-k
3rd February 2014, 19:49
Will this b a whities only or can women and other skin colours join and do u need a bike or will a holden do
jellywrestler
3rd February 2014, 19:51
that hurt my feeling.
I'll send a voucher for some counselling.
nodrog
3rd February 2014, 19:53
I'll send a voucher for some counselling.
I would have thought a voucher for some McDonalds would be more appropriate.
jellywrestler
3rd February 2014, 20:24
I would have thought a voucher for some McDonalds would be more appropriate.
for a quarter pounder with cheese, technically that's an anorexic woman with syphilis isn't it?
SMOKEU
3rd February 2014, 20:38
Hello Im new to this forum so would like to get some feedback..Im from South Africa and have been ridding since i was a baby. My family are all riders and are part of different Bike clubs..my step dad is vice pres of the hell razors and my mother sectary..friends are Iron order,Gypsy Jokers ect..Im looking at coming up with a new club over here not gang but for people that like to go on breakfast runs,rallies and club meets..I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
Are you a boer or a kaffir?
You should look up Smoky, you'n him could share a tyre or two and some gasoline....... unless you're a darkie of course........
lol :jerry:
ellipsis
3rd February 2014, 20:41
...I can tell you from my experience in being a club member, that, ...it was all going cool, for a long time, when it was just me, I followed all my own rules and did all the bike club shit, then my missus bought a sportster, and, as that was all you needed to join my club, she fucking joined...now my club has gone all to shit...she's the prez now...
jellywrestler
3rd February 2014, 20:41
I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
so that makes about ten guys all up?
Akzle
3rd February 2014, 21:19
fuk a klub yo, i wanna join a squadron, sounds wayy koolr, u got probz wiv blak jewz yo? Coz my name J-rome fuken steinbergowitz jr da fird, niga!
Whuttup skaape
Oakie
4th February 2014, 19:27
fuk a klub yo, i wanna join a squadron, sounds wayy koolr, u got probz wiv blak jewz yo? Coz my name J-rome fuken steinbergowitz jr da fird, niga!
Whuttup skaape
And this, children, is what happens when you don' t eat all your veges...
Akzle
4th February 2014, 20:03
And this, children, is what happens when you don' t eat all your veges...
what?
Jews? Or blacks?
Oakie
4th February 2014, 21:02
what?
Jews? Or blacks?
No mate ... your greens ... your greens!
SMOKEU
4th February 2014, 21:09
No mate ... your greens ... your greens!
Fuck yeah, we need some more of that shit.
Conquiztador
4th February 2014, 22:27
Hello Im new to this forum so would like to get some feedback..Im from South Africa and have been ridding since i was a baby. My family are all riders and are part of different Bike clubs..my step dad is vice pres of the hell razors and my mother sectary..friends are Iron order,Gypsy Jokers ect..Im looking at coming up with a new club over here not gang but for people that like to go on breakfast runs,rallies and club meets..I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
Are you for real?? You want to start your own club after just coming to the country and you have no idea how things work here. Why not find an already established social club and start riding with them? Find out how things work, what goes on. Then after some time, when you have an idea come back to your original idea if you still recon it is needed. Tell us what area you are considering and I am sure that you can be told what is already available there. And somehow I think the Gypsy Jokers might not appreciate being mentioned in the same sentence as Iron Order...
Bikemad
4th February 2014, 23:01
so that makes about ten guys all up?
special friends.............:crazy:
Akzle
5th February 2014, 05:45
No mate ... your greens ... your greens!
but, i did smoke all of them....
rustyrobot
5th February 2014, 06:03
but, i did smoke all of them....
You CLEARLY have a drug problem
you need to get some more.
ricardohardo
5th February 2014, 20:25
Hello Im new to this forum so would like to get some feedback..Im from South Africa and have been ridding since i was a baby. My family are all riders and are part of different Bike clubs..my step dad is vice pres of the hell razors and my mother sectary..friends are Iron order,Gypsy Jokers ect..Im looking at coming up with a new club over here not gang but for people that like to go on breakfast runs,rallies and club meets..I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
Wednesday's. 9.30pm. TV3. Invite your mates over.
.
F5 Dave
6th February 2014, 01:52
Why not join that club; the Army. They have lots of rules if that's what you want. Or go see a high street Dominatrix. That way you could get punished if you broke the rules.
just remember to have a safe word and make sure it's not something Dodecahedron as that's easy to forget and hard to say with a snookerball in your mouth.
F5 Dave
6th February 2014, 16:54
now I was thinking I was being a bit disrespectful, sorry about that.
it would be cool to belong to a decent social and touring club. Maybe something with a bit of rep.
how about the Naughty boys. We wouldn't break any laws, but people might think that we do. They'd say "there go the naughty boys" as we rode past "don't mess with them"
we'd get to places and give the bikes a rev and when the leader gave the signal we'd all turn them off. Then the sgt at arms would blast out our club song on the boombox (Wild boys by DuranDuran). They we'd all get off our steeds one at a time in order of rank while lip syncing the words.
Respect:headbang:
Magnum Noel
6th February 2014, 22:16
now I was thinking I was being a bit disrespectful, sorry about that.
it would be cool to belong to a decent social and touring club. Maybe something with a bit of rep.
how about the Naughty boys. We wouldn't break any laws, but people might think that we do. They'd say "there go the naughty boys" as we rode past "don't mess with them"
we'd get to places and give the bikes a rev and when the leader gave the signal we'd all turn them off. Then the sgt at arms would blast out our club song on the boombox (Wild boys by DuranDuran). They we'd all get off our steeds one at a time in order of rank while lip syncing the words.
Respect:headbang:
Thats a hoot. :woohoo:
F5 Dave
7th February 2014, 11:21
Heeeey. . .see? We have Prospects:cool:
Mum will be so proud. Sniff.
ellipsis
7th February 2014, 11:59
...my missus reckons that if we run across naughty boys while out on our runs we have to slow down to 90 and not look...just in case they get some kind of fright or want to yell and poke fun at us...
rustyrobot
7th February 2014, 12:52
Naughty Boys? Weren't they responsible for that crime wave in 2014? Ringing the doorbell and then running away if I remember correctly.
F5 Dave
8th February 2014, 08:38
Ok I've tired of this club, so I'm leaving the naughty boys and starting a new club. The Vision.
less social and touring club, more religious cult. Prospects will have to bring appreciable assets and of course a hot chick, which you might get the chance to see again in the degrading videos I will make of her, but otherwise no.
you will live in squalor in the basement of a members house. We will eat only pizza, but of course I will eat the toppings before you get what's left.
With much work you may rise through the ranks and get input into what toppings will be ordered for the next pizza and can imagine what they would have tasted like. You may even get to edit the next line of videos, or hose the room afterwards. Otherwise it's back to the basement to chant; The Vision The Vision.
But not too loudly else I won't be able to watch the telly upstairs.
Murray
8th February 2014, 09:25
Hello Im new to this forum so would like to get some feedback..Im from South Africa and have been ridding since i was a baby. My family are all riders and are part of different Bike clubs..my step dad is vice pres of the hell razors and my mother sectary..friends are Iron order,Gypsy Jokers ect..Im looking at coming up with a new club over here not gang but for people that like to go on breakfast runs,rallies and club meets..I want to follow proper club rules,ranks and patches. What i don't know is how other mcs will take this..I have 5 guys keen so far some with partners.
Thanks Greg
Just shift over to Queensland with your mates - they are really nice to new motorcycle clubs!!!
Magnum Noel
8th February 2014, 22:28
Ok I've tired of this club, so I'm leaving the naughty boys and starting a new club. The Vision.
less social and touring club, more religious cult. Prospects will have to bring appreciable assets and of course a hot chick, which you might get the chance to see again in the degrading videos I will make of her, but otherwise no.
you will live in squalor in the basement of a members house. We will eat only pizza, but of course I will eat the toppings before you get what's left.
With much work you may rise through the ranks and get input into what toppings will be ordered for the next pizza and can imagine what they would have tasted like. You may even get to edit the next line of videos, or hose the room afterwards. Otherwise it's back to the basement to chant; The Vision The Vision.
But not too loudly else I won't be able to watch the telly upstairs.
Thats a hoot:lol:
Mo NZ
9th February 2014, 16:35
Why not join that club; the Army. They have lots of rules if that's what you want. Or go see a high street Dominatrix. That way you could get punished if you broke the rules.
just remember to have a safe word and make sure it's not something Dodecahedron as that's easy to forget and hard to say with a snookerball in your mouth.
your very economical with the font - got out my microscope to read it
300weatherby
9th February 2014, 17:58
:wait:
Waiting for the answer....... Boer or Kaffer?
SMOKEU
9th February 2014, 18:01
:wait:
Waiting for the answer....... Boer or Kaffer?
+1
It's the million $ question.
Tazz
9th February 2014, 20:33
You can join me and my newly formed club for a beer at Garnet Station in Westmere on Saturday afternoon. We will be the guys wearing the Sons of Anarchy, Devonport chapter hoodies.
Have you guys landed a big water pistol running contract or something? Looks like the S.O.A New Plymouth chapter is upgrading it's fleet...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/cycling/kids-bikes/girls-bikes/auction-693856903.htm
Banditbandit
10th February 2014, 08:25
Aw ... you nasty motorcyclists scared the OP away !!!
SMOKEU
10th February 2014, 11:52
Aw ... you nasty motorcyclists scared the OP away !!!
Which is a shame, because I was just gearing up for a kaffir hunt...
Grubber
10th February 2014, 11:56
+1
It's the million $ question.
Why????
what does it matter if he is black or white?
SMOKEU
10th February 2014, 12:18
Why????
what does it matter if he is black or white?
If you were South African, you'd understand.
Grubber
10th February 2014, 12:29
If you were South African, you'd understand.
If you were a kiwi you'd understand also.
Racist shit!
Try treating everyone as equal and you might have more friends.
SMOKEU
10th February 2014, 12:33
If you were a kiwi you'd understand also.
Racist shit!
Try treating everyone as equal and you might have more friends.
Racist? NZ is one of the most racist countries around. One set of rules for Maori, and another set for everyone else. But, this is something for another thread.
Grubber
10th February 2014, 13:18
Racist? NZ is one of the most racist countries around. One set of rules for Maori, and another set for everyone else. But, this is something for another thread.
Oh dear, how much wronger can you be!
Not much point in trying to explain anything here obviously.
Mungatoke Mad
10th February 2014, 13:56
Naughty Boys? Weren't they responsible for that crime wave in 2014? Ringing the doorbell and then running away if I remember correctly.Na that was Akzle
imdying
10th February 2014, 13:57
Racist? NZ is one of the most racist countries around. One set of rules for Maori, and another set for everyone else. But, this is something for another thread.What, you don't think you'd be allowed to start a 'white man immersion school' to indoctrinate young people? Of course you could, they could play thugby against the maori immersion schools.
rustyrobot
10th February 2014, 14:00
What, you don't think you'd be allowed to start a 'white man immersion school' to indoctrinate young people? Of course you could, they could play thugby against the maori immersion schools.
I think you'll find those are Māori LANGUAGE immersion schools. Yeah, good luck finding an English language immersion school in New Zealand. Oh wait....
imdying
10th February 2014, 14:03
I think you'll find those are Māori LANGUAGE immersion schools. Yeah, good luck finding an English language immersion school in New Zealand. Oh wait....You can use all the capital letters you like, but if you think there's not an immersion in culture too, you're fucking deluded :facepalm:
rustyrobot
10th February 2014, 14:14
You can use all the capital letters you like, but if you think there's not an immersion in culture too, you're fucking deluded :facepalm:
Sure... because immersion in any culture other than yours is "indoctrination", but immersion in your culture is what.... "normal"?
I suppose I really need to acknowledge your superior first hand experience of what goes on in Māori language immersion schools. How many minutes worth was that again?
imdying
10th February 2014, 14:30
Sure... because immersion in any culture other than yours is "indoctrination", but immersion in your culture is what.... "normal"?Not sure what you're on about mate, my culture is New Zealander, or 'Kiwi' if you prefer.
rustyrobot
10th February 2014, 14:39
The point is that the majority of schools in New Zealand are 'white man immersion' schools from both a cultural and language point of view.
You raised Maori language and cultural immersion schools as if they were 1) exclusively for Māori people (they aren't) and 2) inherently racist because they are grounded in one cultural viewpoint, just like mainstream schools in New Zealand are.
Not expecting you to change your mind, I can see you have some hate that you are just wanting to share around.
imdying
10th February 2014, 14:51
No they're not, what a racist thing to say, they're New Zealand schools teaching New Zealand culture. The level of Maori content relects the import of the Maori in New Zealand, and I'm very sorry if that doesn't meet your standard. I'm not sure how you can't find a school that focuses one culture (when New Zealand is obviously made up of so many diverse subcultures) anything but racist.
rustyrobot
10th February 2014, 15:01
I'm not sure how that was racist. I attended mainstream New Zealand schools and they were thoroughly mono-cultural. That is not to say that there weren't people of different cultures who attended the school, and we even examined other cultures as part of the schooling. However, the cultural practices, ethics, values, family models and language were entirely what you have termed 'kiwi' and what I have labelled 'white man immersion'.
Those schools force one culture as much as Māori immersion schools do.
Point is, you don't need to fear Māori immersion schools, or overlook the culturally immersive environments within mainstream New Zealand schools.
New Zealand as a whole is fairly representative of this arrangement too. While there are people of many cultures who LIVE here, you cannot say that the cultural norms of all of those people are represented within the social structures or norms within our society. I can't even imagine how this would be possible when lots of them would be mutually exclusive.
Monkfish
10th February 2014, 15:04
The point is that the majority of schools in New Zealand are 'white man immersion' schools from both a cultural and language point of view.
You raised Maori language and cultural immersion schools as if they were 1) exclusively for Māori people (they aren't) and 2) inherently racist because they are grounded in one cultural viewpoint, just like mainstream schools in New Zealand are.
Not expecting you to change your mind, I can see you have some hate that you are just wanting to share around.
And what constitutes ""white man immersion"??
A school that offers Te Reo to all of its students?
A school that bases a huge amount of the "social studies" curriculum on Maori culture?
A school that sings 30% of their school choir songs in Maori?
A school that offers Maori only scholarships?
Because that is what happens on most of our public and almost all of the private schools in NZ.
maybe its just me but I fail to see how they are grounded in one cultural view point.
ellipsis
10th February 2014, 15:19
... as long as the patch shows the percentages of multi culturalist members to mono culturalists who turn up at club meetings and everyone accepts that a percentage of the members, whilst giving their due respects to the sergeant and corporals and cook etc, no matter what race they may be, will only ever be taken as a split percenters and may as well just ride on their fucking own...(or follow their missus)...or boyfriends if they are riding Hondas...I have a few Hondas but as I am well and truly married to the prez, I'm not allowed a boyfriend...
F5 Dave
10th February 2014, 15:29
Guys Guys Guys. This isn't the thread for debating racism, culture immersion or any of that sort of stuff.
This is the thread to rip on the deluded OP,
because we're kind & giving.
Slorider
11th February 2014, 02:27
''I want to follow proper rules,ranks and pactches'' and ''I don't know how other mc will react'' well imo they will either take you on or take you in whatever the patch may be LOSER...... the true reality behind any patch
ital916
11th February 2014, 05:00
If you were South African, you'd understand.
I've had some good South African friends, all of them didn't give a shit if you were black, coloured, white, asian or whatever. I bet you're the kind of guy that still thinks Rhodesia exists and wears a bring back Apartheid t-shirt. You're correct in the fact NZ has some racist undercurrents, but mainly against immigrants, as with any predominantly western European country dealing with a large influx of Asian and other cultures immigrating here, that can be expected. Not as bad as Oz, not as bad as UK.
And as a British born coloured man of Asian descent, I support banning religions in school, I support fighting religious and cultural extremism. I support people who wants to live here having to integrate with NZ culture and not force their own onto the country. But I don't support racism. You should have left that shit in SA.
Historical creation of the word Kaffir, was by the protugese, meaning infidel, as a way to represent the non-muslim natives, you don't strike me as a muslim smoky.
Anyway, off topic! My bad.
I hate it when OPs start threads and then never reply.
Kickaha
11th February 2014, 06:29
Historical creation of the word Kaffir, was by the protugese, meaning infidel, as a way to represent the non-muslim natives, you don't strike me as a muslim smoky.
So Smoky is really a raghead?
SA has a a lot of "social" motorcyce clubs that use patches whereas over here it sn't that common
SMOKEU
11th February 2014, 07:54
And as a British born coloured man of Asian descent, I support banning religions in school, I support fighting religious and cultural extremism. I support people who wants to live here having to integrate with NZ culture and not force their own onto the country. But I don't support racism. You should have left that shit in SA.
Historical creation of the word Kaffir, was by the protugese, meaning infidel, as a way to represent the non-muslim natives, you don't strike me as a muslim smoky.
You can't force all immigrants to accept NZ culture; just look at the shit that the snackbarists have caused in the UK and other white countries. It's in their religion to say "fuck you" to every one else who doesn't believe in the same version of their extremist bullshit. Their beliefs are completely opposite to those of ours. Did you know that it's in their religion to kill all women adulterers, all apostates, all homosexuals etc? White people are so ignorant, it would actually be quite funny if it weren't for the start of the demise of our culture and race.
The word "kaffir" is an Afrikaner term for blacks. In this context it has nothing to do with religion.
So Smoky is really a raghead?
SA has a a lot of "social" motorcyce clubs that use patches whereas over here it sn't that common
No, fuck that bullshit.
rustyrobot
11th February 2014, 08:08
You can't force all immigrants to accept NZ culture; just look at the shit that the snackbarists have caused in the UK and other white countries. It's in their religion to say "fuck you" to every one else who doesn't believe in the same version of their extremist bullshit. Their beliefs are completely opposite to those of ours. Did you know that it's in their religion to kill all women adulterers, all apostates, all homosexuals etc? White people are so ignorant, it would actually be quite funny if it weren't for the start of the demise of our culture and race.
I know right - why can't they just be considerate and live by the cultural rules of the people in the country they are coming to. You know, like white folk did when they came to New Zealand and South Africa.
SMOKEU
11th February 2014, 08:15
I know right - why can't they just be considerate and live by the cultural rules of the people in the country they are coming to. You know, like white folk did when they came to New Zealand and South Africa.
So you're saying that the early European colonists in NZ should have just run around killing and eating one another, and head hunting like the local Maori?
rustyrobot
11th February 2014, 08:26
So you're saying that the early European colonists in NZ should have just run around killing and eating one another, and head hunting like the local Maori?
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in what you are saying.
Look if you want to encapsulate an entire culture by the couple of parts that are distasteful to you, that's fine - but don't pretend it's an accurate description of pre-European life for Māori. I could easily pull up a couple of distasteful aspects of our current social environment and use that as the basis to write off the whole lot, but it would not be accurate, fair or correct.
The Islamists who want to change the cultural norms here believe they know better and that any changes would be an improvement. How is that any different than the standpoint that you are using in your view of Māori culture?
SMOKEU
11th February 2014, 08:31
The Islamists who want to change the cultural norms here believe they know better and that any changes would be an improvement. How is that any different than the standpoint that you are using in your view of Māori culture?
The difference is that my beliefs don't encourage me to kill anyone who is gay, has sex outside of marriage, doesn't believe in my faith etc. I'm quite tolerant of the religious beliefs of others, as long as those beliefs don't tell the believers to kill me or anyone else, purely based on an outdated book written well over 1000 years ago.
ital916
11th February 2014, 08:32
You can't force all immigrants to accept NZ culture; just look at the shit that the snackbarists have caused in the UK and other white countries. It's in their religion to say "fuck you" to every one else who doesn't believe in the same version of their extremist bullshit. Their beliefs are completely opposite to those of ours. Did you know that it's in their religion to kill all women adulterers, all apostates, all homosexuals etc? White people are so ignorant, it would actually be quite funny if it weren't for the start of the demise of our culture and race.
The word "kaffir" is an Afrikaner term for blacks. In this context it has nothing to do with religion.
No, fuck that bullshit.
A term not initially used in a negative sense, until the seventies. I am by no means a supporter of religious and cultural extremism, and I don't hold a grudge for acts done against "my people" generations ago. I believe in allowing people to express their beliefs as long as it does not impact others. I personally am not a supporter of the islamic faith, but I will not impinge on others right to follow it, I however will stand up against islamic extremism as it has no place in this world. I know what the Koran preaches and don't agree with it.
SMOKEU
11th February 2014, 08:40
I believe in allowing people to express their beliefs as long as it does not impact others..
So do I. But if you're prepared for the gory truth, look at what goes on in Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan (those are the worst cases), ALL IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. These people don't go around cutting off heads, hands and feet just because they feel like it, it's 100% because of their religious beliefs. It's not just a minority of people that support this, but the governments actually specifies the death penalty for many things that are considered normal or acceptable in NZ (sex outside of marriage, gays, criticism of religion etc). How many of us in NZ have done at least some of those things?
If you do some research you'll find I'm not just talking shit.
rustyrobot
11th February 2014, 09:05
The difference is that my beliefs don't encourage me to kill anyone who is gay, has sex outside of marriage, doesn't believe in my faith etc. I'm quite tolerant of the religious beliefs of others, as long as those beliefs don't tell the believers to kill me or anyone else, purely based on an outdated book written well over 1000 years ago.
Well it's lucky that no one was killed during the colonisation of South Africa, otherwise you'd be looking like a hypocrite again.
Conquiztador
11th February 2014, 09:20
I hate it when OPs start threads and then never reply.
The initial question/statement by the OP did seem a fraction naive, and for a split second there, before I posted my response, a small troll flashed in the corner of my eye. I could not see him again even if the smell lingered...;)
F5 Dave
11th February 2014, 09:27
yeah I might have to unsubscribe. All the fun has gone out of this thread.
imdying
11th February 2014, 09:30
yeah I might have to unsubscribe. All the fun has gone out of this thread.Heh, it was so easy to derail :innocent:
Akzle
11th February 2014, 10:11
a small troll flashed in the corner of my eye. I could not see him again even if the smell lingered...;)
had a five bean con carne dinner. Sorry.
SMOKEU
11th February 2014, 10:25
Well it's lucky that no one was killed during the colonisation of South Africa, otherwise you'd be looking like a hypocrite again.
People were killed in all forms of colonisation. It's known that the Maori killed the Moriori in large numbers. All human races at one point or another were a bunch of savages who went on raping and pillaging. Some races, however, have become more civilized (in general, there are always exceptions) over the the course of history.
Banditbandit
11th February 2014, 10:36
So you're saying that the early European colonists in NZ should have just run around killing and eating one another, and head hunting like the local Maori?
Fuck .. they were doing that overseas .. why not do it here too?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/c/ca/20060719001618!Heads_on_pikes.jpg
Christian cannibalism information here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maarrat_al-Nu'man
SMOKEU
11th February 2014, 10:52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maarrat_al-Nu'man
That was an interesting read. However, that did happen nearly 1000 years ago when pretty much ALL humans behaved in a similar fashion.
Akzle
11th February 2014, 12:31
but whites are definitely right, because....:scratch:
...well, the jews at the top convinced everyone to voluntarily enslave themselves, thats gotta be good for....
...Planet?
Err. No.
People?
Nope.
Society and shit!
...O. Wait. No.
Well, its good for jews at least. Good, civilised, white jews.
Trust them to keep those savage dark skinded hos under control, and all the good white folk safe.
oneblackflag
11th February 2014, 14:16
Well, its good for jews at least. Good, civilised, white jews.
Trust them to keep those savage dark skinded hos under control, and all the good white folk safe.
Im ok with this
https://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/vp/image/1382/56/1382560751915.jpg
felixx
20th February 2014, 10:16
so did the Saffa And Mixed Colour Racial Organisation (SAMCRO) actually form?
Whats their Patch?
I laughed at the Sons Hoody comment..
I teach (indoctrinate the youth in white culture) at one of the White Immersion Schools that was talked about earlier and had a meeting with a parent and the imperialist stormtroopers (police) a while back. Dad walked in wearing a sons hoody looking staunch.
I said to him to take it off as we dont allow gang insignia in the White Immersion Schools and he took it off and apologised.
Yamahardman
20th February 2014, 16:42
Racist? NZ is one of the most racist countries around. One set of rules for Maori, and another set for everyone else. But, this is something for another thread.
I just cant wait till they have their own sovereign state.
All the radicalized "everything is owed to us" shithead Maori's can go live in it.
The catch being-
It's the Uruweras.
It's fenced.
All the white mans commodities get left at the gate.
Regular everyday Maoris are welcome to live outside of the sovereign state.
caseye
20th February 2014, 16:48
Surely you mean anyone regardless of their colour creed or ethnicity can live outside the gates, if they chose to.
Same old story, a few spoiling it for the vast majority.
Akzle
20th February 2014, 16:50
I just cant wait till they have their own sovereign state.
All the radicalized "everything is owed to us" shithead Maori's can go live in it.
The catch being-
It's the Uruweras.
It's fenced.
All the white mans commodities get left at the gate.
Regular everyday Maoris are welcome to live outside of the sovereign state.
lets flip that. All you crackers get piled into the beehive and you can vote for/jack each other off as much as you want,
the rest of the country is left for people who arent interested in jew money and shit.
Yamahardman
20th February 2014, 16:54
Surely you mean anyone regardless of their colour creed or ethnicity can live outside the gates, if they chose to.
Same old story, a few spoiling it for the vast majority.
Basically, people who just act like normal citizens of New Zealand, and not demanding extra, because of race or creed.
But as for the "I want millions of dollars in land settlements, paid by the taxpayer" people, they can go live there, in the Uruweras, instead of screwing everyone else.
Yamahardman
20th February 2014, 16:57
lets flip that. All you crackers get piled into the beehive and you can vote for/jack each other off as much as you want,
the rest of the country is left for people who arent interested in jew money and shit.
Jew money?
No one said anything about Jew money!
Lemme at it! Lemme at it!
Love me some Jew money.
Akzle
20th February 2014, 16:59
they can go live there... instead of screwing everyone else.
oh, the ironing!
Akzle
20th February 2014, 17:03
Jew money?
No one said anything about Jew money!
Lemme at it! Lemme at it!
Love me some Jew money.
it will be like "the city of london".. Instead: "the country of new zealand"...y'all can do your jew shit in the 'hive until youre all completely enslaved to debt!
O. Wait on...
Bring on alice!
Yamahardman
20th February 2014, 17:07
it will be like "the city of london".. Instead: "the country of new zealand"...y'all can do your jew shit in the 'hive until youre all completely enslaved to debt!
O. Wait on...
Bring on alice!
Is Alice.... In chains?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqZb52sgpU
:Punk:
Akzle
20th February 2014, 17:21
Is Alice.... In chains?
:Punk:
No. A psychotic AI that controls the zombies in the hive.
Thankfully millo jewvobitch will be along shortly.
rustyrobot
20th February 2014, 17:25
oh, the ironing!
iknorite .
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