It's amazing that they even have to ask this

[pritch]

This is scary shit. I know that we share the road with some congenital idiots, and so apparently do the police and the other emergency services. The Police would appear to be in a position to do something about it but...

The truly terrifying thing though is the two schoolgirls on the pedestian crossing. If they wouldn't give way to a fire engine with lights and siren operating, what chance they'll give way to a motorbike now that they are likely driving mum's SUV?


http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/9763773/Lights-sirens-serious-stuff

[Drew]

This scares you?

Have you noticed the skid marks on the nearest motorway, to your current position?

I have no faith in any other person and their ability to control the most basic function, until they demonstrate to me that I should.

[varminter]

You have to understand that life is a hologram, it's all computer controlled. Other people are ,mainly, small subroutines. The computer that runs the known universe can only do so much, not enough RAM for everyone. That's the reason that other road users (and others) appear stupid, they don't really exist.

Well, it makes sense to me.:laugh:

[FJRider]

Those girls are no different to any motorcyclist I know of ... they are selective in which law/legislation they choose to obey at any given time ..... ;)

And VERY selective in the laws/legislation they want ALL others to obey at the SAME given time ... :whistle:

And any laws / legislation they find "inconvenient" ... they'll just ignore/forget ... :beer:

The girls may have been told about their "rights" on pedestrian crossings ... but not on the rules regarding emergency vehicles ... and their Parents may not even know them ... :lol:

[swbarnett]

. they are selective in which law/legislation they choose to obey at any given time
This has absolutely nothing to do with laws. Hell, I've run a red light twice to let an ambulance through. Once I did 80kph in a 50 in front of a cop because there was no way to move over. All three times I got a salute from the emergency vehicle's passenger.

The problem is that most people don't know right from wrong (as opposed to what the law says). They only have a sense of entitlement.

[SMOKEU]

Have you noticed the skid marks on the nearest motorway, to your current position?



It looks like someone has had fun doing donuts down the Christchurch southern motorway.

[Akzle]

It looks like someone has had fun doing donuts down the Christchurch southern motorway.

i do fuken sik skidz in my firetruck.

[pritch]

Drew, No motorways out here on the rural rump.

FJ Rider, That starts out like you are quoting one of my earlier posts about my philosophy:devil2:

swbarnett, That entitlement thing is relatively new but is now widespread. Of course, the politicians are leading the charge...

Akzle, Interesting, what colour is your fire truck?

[Akzle]

Akzle, Interesting, what colour is your fire truck?

the red one's rwd,
the yellow 4wd.
Keep left on the gravel in the mid west.

[FJRider]

Drew, No motorways out here on the rural rump.

Whats a Motorway .. ?? :scratch:


FJ Rider, That starts out like you are quoting one of my earlier posts about my philosophy:devil2:

Purely unintentional .. I seldom read your posts anyway .. :yawn:


swbarnett, That entitlement thing is relatively new but is now widespread. Of course, the politicians are leading the charge...

It's not a sense of entitlement ... they just think they know their rights. Any rules regarding giving way to emergency vehicles are not that well publicized ... Many driving for years aren't aware of them.


Akzle, Interesting, what colour is your fire truck?

I bet it's blue (he likes to be different) ...

[pritch]

I bet it's blue (he likes to be different) ...

I was thinking blue and white. Like the Israeli flag. :devil2:

[FJRider]

I was thinking blue and white. Like the Israeli flag. :devil2:

Most likely appropriate .. considering ... <_<

[Akzle]

awww cut it out you tjew!

Everyone knows red is fastest.

[FJRider]

This has absolutely nothing to do with laws.



Nothing to do with laws .. ??? :doh:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/receiving-signals.html

[Drew]

Drew, No motorways out here on the rural rump.But you have been on a motorway?

I shake my head a lot as I notice the black lines that run to the barriers and bounce off. I cannot fathom how so many people just can't drive.

[swbarnett]

It's not a sense of entitlement ... they just think they know their rights.
i.e. they think that their perceived rights are more important than someone else's life or death struggle. If this isn't a sense of entitlement I don't know what is.

[swbarnett]

Nothing to do with laws .. ??? :doh:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/receiving-signals.html
Yes, the law says you must give way to emergency vehicles. For once the law coincides with common sense. So? Would you not give way to them unless the las said you had to?

Anyone who was brought up to know right from wrong will know that you do anything you can within reason (legal or not) to avoid impeding the progress of an emergency vehicle. Given the right circumstances, even the cops don't mind if you break other laws to get out of their way (in actual fact they saluted me for it).

[pritch]

But you have been on a motorway?


Yeah but it's a long time since I lived in Wellytown so I'm busy watching the fuckwits in their cars when I do rarely use a motorway.

Still, I'm reminded of a little work story.

Our lawyer arrived at work one day and told me of a story that had been the talk of Head Office in Wellington when he was there the day before.

An out-of-town staff member had cause to visit the Upper Hutt office, pick up an Upper Hutt staff member and proceed to visit a member of the public.

Unable to find the Upper Hutt office she phoned and asked where the office was.
The office asked'
"Where are you now?"
"Driving along the waterfront."
"Ummm Upper Hutt doesn't have a waterfront."
"Where am I"
"Sounds like Petone."

At this point I advised the lawyer that the driver in question was one of our local colleagues.

What the story didn't mention was that our driver asked the Upper Hutt staff member to drive to the visit in the light of her better knowledge of the area. Shortly thereafter the car hit a stone wall.
"Because the passenger didn't tell me the wall was there."

You share the road with that driver. Rather you than me.

[FJRider]

i.e. they think that their perceived rights are more important than someone else's life or death struggle. If this isn't a sense of entitlement I don't know what is.

You have me there ...

But I think importance prioritys doesn't explain it all ... they just don't give a fuck about anybody else's problems.

They might think differently if they were lying in a ditch waiting for an Ambo ... or their house was burning down ... and still moan they didn't get there fast enough. Their priority's would be clear then ...

[FJRider]

Anyone who was brought up to know right from wrong will know ...

There ... is the basic key to it all ...

[James Deuce]

Waaaah danger. STOP RIDING BIKES CASSINA, YOU'RE GOING TO DIE!

[swbarnett]

Putting yourself in danger to let a ambulance through could see you end up in the ambulance yourself resulting in them having to send another for the patient resulting in a far greater delay.
Nowhere did I say I put myself in danger far from it. In the cases where I ran the red there was no opposing traffic. Had there been the ambo would've had to wait.