2014 Suzuki DL1000

[Crasherfromwayback]

We've finally got our 2014 DL1000 demo bike. So anyone wanting a fang on it feel free to get hold of me to sort a day/time.

Pete (04) 8010-725 DDI

pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz

[Quasievil]

We've finally got our 2014 DL1000 demo bike. So anyone wanting a fang on it feel free to get hold of me to sort a day/time.

Pete (04) 8010-725 DDI

pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz

Not a bad looking bike, its a bit "me to" tho, Suzuki should have challenged whats already out there a bit more I think.
Retail ?

[insomnia01]

We've finally got our 2014 DL1000 demo bike. So anyone wanting a fang on it feel free to get hold of me to sort a day/time.

Pete (04) 8010-725 DDI

pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz

seen the 650 at Boyds with the full Givi touring kit :eek5: looking at a dual purpose scooter for the future, currently interested in a Buell Ulysses how do you rate the DL1000 along side one of these Pete?

[Quasievil]

I guess we will be waiting a week for the reluctant salesman from Wellington Motorcycles to reply to his own thread.
He had time to do another 9 posts elsewhere tho!!

Anyway I contacted the Awesome MR motorcycles in Pukekohe, they dont have pricing information released by Suzuki yet although Im told the current one is $16995 so Im guessing it will be around that.


http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz (http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz/suzuki-dl1000-v-storm) FOR THE WIN !!

[Crasherfromwayback]

seen the 650 at Boyds with the full Givi touring kit :eek5: looking at a dual purpose scooter for the future, currently interested in a Buell Ulysses how do you rate the DL1000 along side one of these Pete?

Very different bikes to ride for sure. The Buell is far rougher around the edges for want of a better term. Some of the Brazilian market ones (Buell) that were imported run a bit hairy. See what I did there! If a lot of your stuff is one up and or around town more often than not...I'd do a DL650. But for open road stuff thenew DL1000 for sure. It feels nothing like it's older brother to me.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I guess we will be waiting a week for the reluctant salesman from Wellington Motorcycles to reply to his own thread.
He had time to do another 9 posts elsewhere tho!!

Anyway I contacted the Awesome MR motorcycles in Pukekohe, they dont have pricing information released by Suzuki yet although Im told the current one is $16995 so Im guessing it will be around that.


http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz (http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz/suzuki-dl1000-v-storm) FOR THE WIN !!

Nah. I simply can't be arsed responding to you anymore. We all know why too don't we?

[insomnia01]

Very different bikes to ride for sure. The Buell is far rougher around the edges for want of a better term. Some of the Brazilian market ones (Buell) that were imported run a bit hairy. See what I did there! If a lot of your stuff is one up and or around town more often than not...I'd do a DL650. But for open road stuff thenew DL1000 for sure. It feels nothing like it's older brother to me.

thanks for that insight :2thumbsup

[Crasherfromwayback]

thanks for that insight :2thumbsup

Got all three you're welcome to come down and ride anytime mate.

[GTRMAN]

We've finally got our 2014 DL1000 demo bike. So anyone wanting a fang on it feel free to get hold of me to sort a day/time.

Pete (04) 8010-725 DDI

pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz

Any idea of the list price yet Pete?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Any idea of the list price yet Pete?

I wish mate. Makes it hard when I can't tell the peeps for sure how much it's gonna cost. But regardless..if you fancy a fang on it...let me know and I'll book it for ya. May take it home for the weekend and go for a skid. Or skid less as it may well be.

[BuzzardNZ]

Has is still got the same donk as the old SV1000?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Has is still got the same donk as the old SV1000?

Heavily based on...but has grown to 1037cc now amongst other things. Feels pretty lively. I'l take it home for the weekend and see how it goes when given a beating.

[Quasievil]

MR Motorcycles for those in the Auckland Area, or Colemans !!!

[merv]

To me KB is still a reasonable place to come to talk with others, spoiled only by a few.

Hence I find it rather ridiculous that the mods have binned my honest question to Mr Quasievil along with a whole lot of other posts from this thread.

10 years ago he used to be a reasonable member of this group and I don't understand why he needs to be so bitter, especially on a thread about the DL1000 which I am sure is a very nice bike. Just too heavy for my liking.

[Gremlin]

Hence I find it rather ridiculous that the mods have binned my honest question to Mr Quasievil along with a whole lot of other posts from this thread.

Please feel free to ask again. I really don't want to de-rail this thread again, but the crap between two participants doesn't need to spread across multiple threads. Removing only part of the crap makes posts quoting a deleted post confusing, so anything related was removed, to "encourage" no more repetition of the previous crap.

The new DL may have a few customers amongst mates, namely, those after a semi-adventure bike, without the price tag of a BMW (2 already have BMWs, one has the older 650 strom).

[gammaguy]

Very different bikes to ride for sure. The Buell is far rougher around the edges for want of a better term. Some of the Brazilian market ones (Buell) that were imported run a bit hairy. See what I did there! If a lot of your stuff is one up and or around town more often than not...I'd do a DL650. But for open road stuff thenew DL1000 for sure. It feels nothing like it's older brother to me.

I heard Brazilians were never hairy down thery ;)

[gammaguy]

MR Motorcycles for those in the Auckland Area, or Colemans !!!


I'm in Singapore.... Who do you recommend oh font of all wisdom?

Is your middle name google or yellow as in pages?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Any idea of the list price yet Pete?

Price announced this morning mate. $19995.00 + orc. Took it home for the weekend...awesome to ride. Feels nothing like the old DL1000 other than it's still a v twin.

[Scouse]

Price announced this morning mate. $19995.00 + orc. Took it home for the weekend...awesome to ride. Feels nothing like the old DL1000 other than it's still a v twin.Bit of a leap in price from the previous model then eh Pete?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bit of a leap in price from the previous model then eh Pete?

Yeah but I think that was always going to be the case.

[mulletman]

Blackfoots has em for $12999................Canadian

I know its a diff market

[BuzzardNZ]

This thread is a strange one. Various posts seem to mysteriously vanish! :confused:

[Quasievil]

This thread is a strange one. Various posts seem to mysteriously vanish! :confused:

Someone is crying , not me, the Mods can do what they like, fact is this bike is to expensive for what it is compared to others in the market.

[Laava]

So, 19,995+orc does seem excessive. Will wait till the whangarei branch have the demo and then test thrash I guess.

[mulletman]

Wait till the Summerfest to buy get 3K off and a Yoshi , thats how Suzuki usually operates....

[Oscar]

Price announced this morning mate. $19995.00 + orc. Took it home for the weekend...awesome to ride. Feels nothing like the old DL1000 other than it's still a v twin.

I rode one and I liked it...




















...right up until I heard the price.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So, 19,995+orc does seem excessive. Will wait till the whangarei branch have the demo and then test thrash I guess.

As compared to what?


Wait till the Summerfest to buy get 3K off and a Yoshi , thats how Suzuki usually operates....

Suzuki only tend to do that with older models or extra stock they want/need to move. Pretty rare they do it with new models.


I rode one and I liked it...
...right up until I heard the price.

Well the old one was $17000.00...and I for one think the new one is way more than 3k better. I'm looking forward to getting it out in the wet and trying this fan dangled TC. Brain can't make it work in the dry.

[Oscar]

Well the old one was $17000.00...and I for one think the new one is way more than 3k better. I'm looking forward to getting it out in the wet and trying this fan dangled TC. Brain can't make it work in the dry.

The problem is that when I bought mine, Suzuki were discounting the shit out of them - $13,995 at one stage.
I guess when you compare it to an 1190ADV at 27k, it's not too bad.

[Quasievil]

As compared to what?

with a ABS Triumph 800 at $17995 I think the Dl is overpriced, with the dollar high I think the DL could be should be priced better.




Suzuki only tend to do that with older models or extra stock they want/need to move. Pretty rare they do it with new models.

Fact is Susuki do do it and do it regulary so its always a bit of pot luck, not good brand management.




Well the old one was $17000.00...and I for one think the new one is way more than 3k better. I'm looking forward to getting it out in the wet and trying this fan dangled TC. Brain can't make it work in the dry.

Perhaps you can tell us what specifically the new model has to justify the higher price?
that would be good.


p.s you can complain again to the mods about my post now.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The problem is that when I bought mine, Suzuki were discounting the shit out of them - $13,995 at one stage.
I guess when you compare it to an 1190ADV at 27k, it's not too bad.

Yeah $13995.00 was a steal for sure.

[Oscar]

Yeah $13995.00 was a steal for sure.

Not if you were the guy that paid full price...

[Crasherfromwayback]

with a ABS Triumph 800 at $17995 I think the Dl is overpriced, with the dollar high I think the DL could be should be priced better.





Fact is Susuki do do it and do it regulary so its always a bit of pot luck, not good brand management.





Perhaps you can tell us what specifically the new model has to justify the higher price?that would be good.


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For the record Bret...I have no prob or issue whatsoever answering proper posts or questions in threads I start. So...you wanna compare a 1000cc motorcycle with abs and traction control to an 800cc version from another brand? No worries. Then that 800cc model is surely over priced compared to our DL650 with abs then? It's only $14500.00.

And talking of discounting motorcycles...seeing as you're all of a sudden a Triumph fan...surely you've then notided that Triumph NZ are the kings of discounting motorcycles that are supposed to be a better investment that a Japanese equivilent?

The new DL has grown from 996cc to 1037cc, has abs and 3 way adjustable TC. Gone from pretty av brakes to radial mounted GSXR1000 calipers, conv forks to usd's, new frame, new twin plug heads, a slipper clutch etc etc. Def 3k better in my eyes. Go ride it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not if you were the guy that paid full price...

Yeah used to get it in the neck all the time when Triumph used to drop their pants don't worry. But hey...hardly as bad as Honda when they do it eh? Fancy paying 28k for a Honda VTX1800 cruiser that went to 15k? What about a Can Am Spyder? What...30 something k to 18? So not really like Suzuki are the only peeps that do it eh?

[Oscar]

Yeah used to get it in the neck all the time when Triumph used to drop their pants don't worry. But hey...hardly as bad as Honda when they do it eh? Fancy paying 28k for a Honda VTX1800 cruiser that went to 15k? What about a Can Am Spyder? What...30 something k to 18? So not really like Suzuki are the only peeps that do it eh?

No doubt others do it, but it must make your job hell.

[Quasievil]

[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1130688970]For the record Bret...I have no prob or issue whatsoever answering proper posts or questions in threads I start. So...you wanna compare a 1000cc motorcycle with abs and traction control to an 800cc version from another brand? No worries. Then that 800cc model is surely over priced compared to our DL650 with abs then? It's only $14500.00.

And talking of discounting motorcycles...seeing as you're all of a sudden a Triumph fan...surely you've then notided that Triumph NZ are the kings of discounting motorcycles that are supposed to be a better investment that a Japanese equivilent?

The new DL has grown from 996cc to 1037cc, has abs and 3 way adjustable TC. Gone from pretty av brakes to radial mounted GSXR1000 calipers, conv forks to usd's, new frame, new twin plug heads, a slipper clutch etc etc. Def 3k better in my eyes. Go ride it.[/QUOTE

Thanks for the good answer, btw Im a long time Triumph fan :bleh:]

[Crasherfromwayback]

No doubt others do it, but it must make your job hell.

I'd hardly describe it as the most pleasant part of my job...:innocent:


[Thanks for the good answer, btw Im a long time Triumph fan :bleh:]

As am I. I have nothing but respect for them as a product. I personally think a triple is one of THE nicest engine layouts ever built. Hence my thread about the new Yamaha triple. Love to have a fang on it.

[BuzzardNZ]

No doubt others do it, but it must make your job hell.

Not when he gets his commission on one he sold for full price :innocent:

[Laava]

Yeah I guess it won,t be long before it is available cheaper. i paid 15 k for mine new and that was the going rate at that time.
I am also aware that it is a whole new bike and not just a facelift.
Anyway, i am broke at the moment!

[gammaguy]

Not when he gets his commission on one he sold for full price :innocent:

To be fair I suspect Mr Wellington and mr motorcycles have a lot more control over setting the price than the salesperson.


I worked in a franchise dealership and I know for a fact the distributors discuss price with shop owners before they are released, and the sales guy rarely gets a say in that process

[Akzle]

giz it. .

[Berg]

From what I gather the new 1000 has dropped a few kilos compared to the last model and could come with a full touring option? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Keen to try a low seat height one to see if it suits my short ass legs

[Scouse]

From what I gather the new 1000 has dropped a few kilos compared to the last model and could come with a full touring option? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Keen to try a low seat height one to see if it suits my short ass legsOr you could try wearing platform shoes/boots.

[Bass]

I am looking for a 2 up capable machine touring on road but one that is also at home on some reasonable gravel. I am in the market for one of these but the 150mm ground clearance with the oil filter hanging out in the breeze concerns me. I have a heavily farkled DR for the solo rough stuff but the DL underside still looks awful vulnerable to me. Lots of exposed wires and cables to hook up in the bushes too.
There was one at Paeroa with many of the farkles including a lightweight bash plate which was not very securely mounted and really didn't offer a lot of protection. So still concerned.

[Crasherfromwayback]

From what I gather the new 1000 has dropped a few kilos compared to the last model and could come with a full touring option? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Keen to try a low seat height one to see if it suits my short ass legs

MOst welcome to come and try it for size. But let me know if you do want to so I can make sure it's there and not muck you around. I'm not long in the leg (32" inseam in Levis) and can touch both feet flat when sitting on it. Bags etc etc at this stage are an option.


I am looking for a 2 up capable machine touring on road but one that is also at home on some reasonable gravel. I am in the market for one of these but the 150mm ground clearance with the oil filter hanging out in the breeze concerns me. I have a heavily farkled DR for the solo rough stuff but the DL underside still looks awful vulnerable to me. Lots of exposed wires and cables to hook up in the bushes too.
There was one at Paeroa with many of the farkles including a lightweight bash plate which was not very securely mounted and really didn't offer a lot of protection. So still concerned.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before some after market better bash plate becomes avail. But I do agree some parts look a lil vunerable.

[98tls]

Not when he gets his commission on one he sold for full price :innocent:

Maybe its different these days but back when i was selling em (7 years cars 2 years bikes) a sale was a sale,commision didnt change no matter what the unit sold for.Depending on the time of year Toyota would let a car go at a loss just to have another unit sold,still got my $200.

[98tls]

The new DL has grown from 996cc to 1037cc, has abs and 3 way adjustable TC. Gone from pretty av brakes to radial mounted GSXR1000 calipers, conv forks to usd's, new frame, new twin plug heads, a slipper clutch etc etc. Def 3k better in my eyes. Go ride it.

Shuudup will ya christ the thing sounds pretty good.My old man bought a new one a few years back packed it up with gear threw my stepmother on the back and off up to the North isle they went for a lengthy trip round the whole isle,he had nothing but praise for the bike after the trip which is well earned coming from a bloke thats had everything from Vincents at 22 to at 74 the 1250 Bandit he currently rides at good pace.If the local Suzuki guy has one i can ride i will make a point of doing so.

[Gremlin]

I am looking for a 2 up capable machine touring on road but one that is also at home on some reasonable gravel. I am in the market for one of these but the 150mm ground clearance with the oil filter hanging out in the breeze concerns me. I have a heavily farkled DR for the solo rough stuff but the DL underside still looks awful vulnerable to me. Lots of exposed wires and cables to hook up in the bushes too.
It's not really a true adventure bike, from memory the traction control or ABS isn't switchable, so a few little things like that point more towards all road touring, gentle gravel and no bush bashing.

Farkles will most likely be available (even the Tenere needed a bash plate) especially if/when released in the USA, so not really a problem. On the other hand, the price tag isn't in BMW territory...

[Bass]

It's not really a true adventure bike, from memory the traction control or ABS isn't switchable, so a few little things like that point more towards all road touring, gentle gravel and no bush bashing.

Farkles will most likely be available (even the Tenere needed a bash plate) especially if/when released in the USA, so not really a problem. On the other hand, the price tag isn't in BMW territory...

Traction control is switchable, ABS isn't.
No intention to go bush bashing but was hoping for a LITTLE more than gentle gravel. Maybe as you say, time will provide the appropriate jock box.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Traction control is switchable, ABS isn't.
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Maybe you could just yank the abs fuse out? I'd have to check.

[Bass]

Maybe you could just yank the abs fuse out? I'd have to check.

Perhaps, but not ideal though, eh?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Perhaps, but not ideal though, eh?

Obviously not. I personally would like to see it switchable don't worry. Glad the TC is!

[Bass]

Obviously not. I personally would like to see it switchable don't worry. Glad the TC is!

Guess that we're unlikely to get "ideal" for 20 grand.
Get what you pay for usually and "ideal" varies from man to man anyway.

[Pussy]

Saw one on Thursday at the Central Districts Field Days. Quite like it!

[Drew]

Saw one on Thursday at the Central Districts Field Days. Quite like it!Jimmy posted some pics, and I saw one on the motorway yesterday.

Gonzo (the muppet) is the first thing I think of when I see it. Why have that little nose thing, and a mud gaurd?

[BuzzardNZ]

Article on stuff about it...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bikes/10030891/Ugly-Suzuki-attractive-in-many-other-ways

[Big Dog]

Maybe you could just yank the abs fuse out? I'd have to check.

If it is that simple adding a switch to your bars should be a doddle.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance. Maybe a option to offer anyone who sees that as a sticky point at sale?

[Crasherfromwayback]

If it is that simple adding a switch to your bars should be a doddle.


Maybe a option to offer anyone who sees that as a sticky point at sale?

I agree. Suzuki should've done it std though.

[Big Dog]

Article on stuff about it...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bikes/10030891/Ugly-Suzuki-attractive-in-many-other-ways

Based on that review I'd probably wait until the second or third year before paying the extra. Preferring a bike with the gremlins ironed out than leap into a bike with so much technology splashed across it in one hit. Let a few thousand tech whores test pilot it if you will.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

I agree. Suzuki should've done it std though.

Could be your point I difference at the register?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Could be your point I difference at the register?


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I hear ya mate.

[Laava]

When is the suzi luggage available for the strom pete and does it clip right on, or does it need a rack fitted? My K7 has givi fitted and would prefer not to arse about with changing over if poss.
Also, how many have you sold and have any been back in? Not being a smart coont, but I am one of those people that would rather wait until a couple of years have gone to sort out the gremlins. In this case I am prob not going to wait as it should be the mechanical equal of the previous model if not better and it has been getting mostly rave reviews. Cheers.

[Crasherfromwayback]

When is the suzi luggage available for the strom pete and does it clip right on, or does it need a rack fitted? My K7 has givi fitted and would prefer not to arse about with changing over if poss.
Also, how many have you sold and have any been back in? Not being a smart coont, but I am one of those people that would rather wait until a couple of years have gone to sort out the gremlins. In this case I am prob not going to wait as it should be the mechanical equal of the previous model if not better and it has been getting mostly rave reviews. Cheers.

Think they're still a couple of months away mate. They need to have a lil panel fitted to the side of the bike with three docking *sockets* as such. Your old stuff won't fit the new bike unfortunately. I've only sold one so far...which I must say surprises me...but having said that...we're fucking quiet full stop. Think my coffee making is hurting my sales figures finally. God damn the internet. The thing has only done a couple of thousand km's...and we've only seen it back for it's first service. No probs with either that unit , or our own demo so far...which dare I say...has been ridden quite.....ummmm.....errrr....hard!

[Laava]

Mate, last time I was there you were a bit reluctant to serve us coffee, you were offering us a beer instead! Which to be honest, we should have taken you up on!
So what do you think of the strom, assuming you are comparing it to the outgoing, and be brutal, I am interested.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mate, last time I was there you were a bit reluctant to serve us coffee, you were offering us a beer instead! Which to be honest, we should have taken you up on!
So what do you think of the strom, assuming you are comparing it to the outgoing, and be brutal, I am interested.

Lol. Mate...I shit you not, and all salesmans bullshit aside...the two can't really be compared in my opinion. It now feels like a long legged sports bike...not a soft mushy couch and average brakes.

[Laava]

I have four bikes to demo tomorrow back to back, the strom, ktm 1190, tiger sport and aprilia capo.they are in order, 20k, 27, 22 and 27. Be interesting to see how it goes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I have four bikes to demo tomorrow back to back, the strom, ktm 1190, tiger sport and aprilia capo.they are in order, 20k, 27, 22 and 27. Be interesting to see how it goes.

I'll be interested to see what you think after riding them all mate.

[Oscar]

I'll be interested to see what you think after riding them all mate.

I rode the Strom and the 1190 on the same day.
Basically you get what you pay for - both are great bikes, but the KTM is slightly better (7k better? probably).

I'm actually disappointed with KTM for joining the ADV Touring (i.e. BMW GS imitators) club.
It's lost that hard core off road feel (in other words, it's in danger of being comfortable to ride). And yes, I know that's were the money is, but I'm still sad.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I rode the Strom and the 1190 on the same day.
Basically you get what you pay for - both are great bikes, but the KTM is slightly better (7k better? probably).

I'm actually disappointed with KTM for joining the ADV Touring (i.e. BMW GS imitators) club.
It's lost that hard core off road feel (in other words, it's in danger of being comfortable to ride). And yes, I know that's were the money is, but I'm still sad.

Good to get your feedback Oscar. Only KTM adventure bike I've ever ridden was a 990...and I thought it was fuggin awesome!

[Laava]

I ran out of day! Rode the strom first followed by the tiger and ktm.
Very impressed with the strom. On the v strom site, it had one reviewer hate it saying it was let down by the engine. He also crapped on about the bicycle handle bars.
Yes the handlebars looked piddly compared to the other two but is a cheap fix and to be honest, I think I would not have noticed if he hadn't drawn attn to it! I thought the console and dash area looked a little budget, not the cluster itself, just the whole assembly. I loved the bike, it is a massive step up from the outgoing.
Then the tiger, it is more of a hoon bike and more like a sports bike than the strom. It made good power but I stalled it about three times! It seemed slightly heavier as well. Overall, it didn't do it for me but I can't put my finger on why.
Then the ktm. WOW! A bmx with a motoX engine!
I could not share this bike with a pillion so it is out for me! I reached behind me as I was riding along and there wasn't much seat left!
It is a smile a mile. The power was phenominal and the suspension soaked up the road better than the other two. The brakes and handling were very similar on all three as far as I could tell, in fact I thought the strom brakes were the nicest.
I will take the girl down for round two which will be two up on the strom and hopefully aprilia. One day!

[paturoa]

I ran out of day! Rode the strom first followed by the tiger and ktm.
Very impressed with the strom. On the v strom site, it had one reviewer hate it saying it was let down by the engine. He also crapped on about the bicycle handle bars.
Yes the handlebars looked piddly compared to the other two but is a cheap fix and to be honest, I think I would not have noticed if he hadn't drawn attn to it! I thought the console and dash area looked a little budget, not the cluster itself, just the whole assembly. I loved the bike, it is a massive step up from the outgoing.
Then the tiger, it is more of a hoon bike and more like a sports bike than the strom. It made good power but I stalled it about three times! It seemed slightly heavier as well. Overall, it didn't do it for me but I can't put my finger on why.
Then the ktm. WOW! A bmx with a motoX engine!
I could not share this bike with a pillion so it is out for me! I reached behind me as I was riding along and there wasn't much seat left!
It is a smile a mile. The power was phenominal and the suspension soaked up the road better than the other two. The brakes and handling were very similar on all three as far as I could tell, in fact I thought the strom brakes were the nicest.
I will take the girl down for round two which will be two up on the strom and hopefully aprilia. One day!

The storm gets good press for it's brakes. Not ridden it yet myself.

Which tiger did you ride, the 800 or the 1050. Sounds like you tried the 1050 as that's what I recall. The 800 xc is better than the standard 800, tough both are yawn compared to the 1190. Not ridden the 1200 but it is a whale.

Agree regarding the 1190 pillion seat on the R. Number 2 spawn went on the bike to the Paeroa races this year and she could hardly walk when she got off the bike when we got home. Quote "pins and needles in my butt, numbing, had to keep moving to keep it alive". The standard and the R versions ride quite very differently. The standard is more sports bile and the R "rails". I'm guessing that the brakes appear similar for normal conditions, but in oh shit moments I must admit that the KTM brakes are in another planet. There are already a number of after market and custom seats for the KTM that allow the best of both worlds.

That piggy bank must be getting nervous!

[Laava]

Triumph tiger sport 1050. The 1200 looks huge, like a bmw gs. I could not even bring myself to sit on it. The Ktm was pretty lofty as well. As was the price sticker incl the panniers.
Piggy bank getting a belly rub only right at the moment!

[Crasherfromwayback]

bly. I loved the bike, it is a massive step up from the outgoing.
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Yep. I honestly don't think you can compare the old one to the new one. Well obviously you can...but they ain't in the same ball park to ride.

[Laava]

True Pete. The biggest difference was in the brakes. Hopping back on the K7 for the ride home was reluctance town! The engine was smoother but hard to really tell how much more power it had cos mine runs really sweet now after many modifications. But so much nicer to ride, first corner I got to was the motorway on ramp heading north and it is 270 degrees round. By the time I got thru I was mega impressed!

[Laava]

Have heard that the factory panniers are around $1500 and the topbox about $1000. Sound right to you Pete?

[Gremlin]

Have heard that the factory panniers are around $1500 and the topbox about $1000. Sound right to you Pete?
If that's the case, provided they're functional, tis a good price. Factory panniers for my BMW are $2500

[Crasherfromwayback]

Have heard that the factory panniers are around $1500 and the topbox about $1000. Sound right to you Pete?

I believe so mate. Will double check for ya.

[Laava]

If that's the case, provided they're functional, tis a good price. Factory panniers for my BMW are $2500

Fair enough. The ktm ones were $900ea apparently but they would do a set on a new bike for $2200.
I will wait till i view them as I have heard they are small esp rhs. Biggest thing for me is a decent topbox with backrest.